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@klaxoncow
Жыл бұрын
I love your 19/8 song at the end. I think you just proved that everyone else was in error from not attempting this one sooner, as it works exceedingly well. With the arpeggio that just skips a beat, unexpectedly on the fifth time round. It's a nice choice to subdivide that way, as it makes it not sound odd, even though it is. It's got that subtle "just feels a little bit off-kilter" but not obviously so. Just the right amount of "odd".
@RobPrice-vy6kz
Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for Karnivools Goliath in the 27/4 Video. Great job.
@ethanholmes5677
Жыл бұрын
When are we going to get “Songs That Use 4/4 Time”? I’ve been waiting this whole time and David has been avoiding it so hard that he did 19/8 😔
@BantheDan
Жыл бұрын
joking aside I'd actually be interested in 8/4 and 16/8. Some songs are 8/4 because they either are grouped 3 + 3 + 2 or because they alternate between 7/8 and 8/8 so it's easier to count than going to 4/4. Also I've seen a couple of songs that folk call 16/8 just because the phrasings are 16 beats.
@toblexson5020
Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see songs that both heavily play into 4/4, and also songs that disguise their 4/4 time. Or even just different ways to play the bass (or drum, but Bennett is a pianist), with 4/4 time, because a lot of small variations have been developed due to how popular it is. A common one off the top of my head is adding a flourish to beat 3.
@BantheDan
Жыл бұрын
but 99% of the time any exponent of 2 on the top people just write as 4/4. It needs a good reason to be written otherwise.
@kyyla771
Жыл бұрын
@@toblexson5020 "Disguising 4/4"? This isn't a good example, as it does not exactly disguise it's 4/4, but anyway this sprung to mind: kzitem.info/news/bejne/pml4mpakfJ9hiqQ Tuomari Nurmio - "Kauas tahdon matkustaa" (Finland 1981) - highly critically acclaimed but quite idiosyncratic record. I remember reading somewhere that directions for the drummer were something like "Take the forwards driving force of 2 and 4 in a 4/4 beat, and put them in 1 and 3, so it's more like holding back"
@aresh.4341
Жыл бұрын
@@toblexson5020 If you haven't already, listen to Bonnie the Cat by Porcupine Tree. Still hard to believe it's in 4/4 with no tuplets
@deft__12
Жыл бұрын
We gonna be getting songs in 23/32 at this rate 😭
@lemonize30
Жыл бұрын
74/209
@badenfitzmaurice9013
Жыл бұрын
New Millenium Cyanide Christ by Meshuggah is in 23/16. I think it loops 23/16 and 13/16 until it comes back around to 128/16, which divides down to 4/4. Crazy.
@Fafa_Sauce
Жыл бұрын
Scratch that 1264/1880
@lemonize30
Жыл бұрын
@@Fafa_Sauce a lot/good luck
@Fafa_Sauce
Жыл бұрын
@@lemonize30 lmaoo
@FinnFletcherWhite
Жыл бұрын
I think Sungazer’s ‘Threshold’ is a really awesome example of 19/16. Not 19/8 I know, just a personal favourite 19 time signature
@phonetyx
Жыл бұрын
technically speaking, threshold is in 4/4 but every beat is a 19-tuplet. so in reality its basically 19/16
@FinnFletcherWhite
Жыл бұрын
@@phonetyx I saw that in Adam Neely’s breakdown of the song (or Shawn Crowder’s, I’m not quite sure which one it was). Really interesting to think it was written in 4/4, I never would have expected that listening to it!
@unohu3047
Жыл бұрын
@@FinnFletcherWhite That was the whole point of the Perihelion album really, exploring musical ambiguity and uncanny valleys.
@GizzyDillespee
Жыл бұрын
My favorite 19 time is 19/7. And yes, my amp goes to 11. 🙄 Ever since they invented those, why would you buy an amp that only goes to 10?! Who the heck has a favorite 19 time signature?! You must be a drummer, sure, but even then?!!! Holy smokes. I don't even want to click on your name. I'm scared.
@FinnFletcherWhite
Жыл бұрын
@@unohu3047 absolutely, my favourite example of that would probably have to be Macchina
@insania6776
Жыл бұрын
We want a full version of this final piece. The unachieved aspect of the time signature is really fitting the ambiance.
@exitthelemming145
Жыл бұрын
Can't help but think the most important aspect of what determines a piece's meter is the phrase length e.g. in the last 19/4 example, to my ears, the phrase length is just four x 4 beat arpeggios followed by a three beat arpeggio. If you could come up with a musical phrase or melodic theme that breathes naturally over the entire span of a 19/4 measure then yes, your piece is in 19/4 otherwise it's just an arithmetical sleight of hand.
@neonmeate8180
Жыл бұрын
Unachieve the aspect of deez nutz
@josiek5989
Жыл бұрын
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard's song Shanghai melody is in 19/8 polymeter over 4/4 drums. Feels grouped as 4-4-4-4-3 to me. Love odd time!
@atharvachoudhary6974
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe he didn't include Shanghai, the 19 beat riff over normal 4/4 drums are so interesting But you can argue it's in 19/4 but still. If you gotta make a time sig video better learn up on your Gizz, Tool and Genesis beforehand
@SotraEngine4
Жыл бұрын
The final song feels like a kind of grieving. Like, there is a rhythm, but then it is cut short, as like the loved one is just whisked away, completely sudden and unexpectedly
@joebykaeby
Жыл бұрын
The eerie melancholy of your song is a perfect fit for rhythmic structure that feels like it’s missing a tiny piece here and there
@kdub1242
Жыл бұрын
The guitar solo on Zappa's "Keep It Greasy" from the famous Joe's Garage album is in 19/16 time, grouped as 7+5+7. Vinnie Colaiuta's performance is astonishing (as usual), fluid and grooving. The verse is in 21/16, while the chorus is in 4/4. it's very much worth checking out.
@jokubask5309
Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see zappa getting appreciated
@hughstark4882
Жыл бұрын
I got joes garage acts II &III for my birthday last week so I’m a bit disappointed not to actually see it in the video. This comment is still great tho
@rainbowrotcod
6 ай бұрын
hell yeah joes garage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@andrewpappas9311
Жыл бұрын
Rusty Cage has always been one of my favourite Soundgarden songs and never realized it was in 19, additionally I never even knew that 19/8 was even a time signature since I've never heard anything in it before but it definitely sounds interesting. Great video as always, David
@pongop
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know it was either! Growing up, I mostly heard Soundgarden's singles, but a few years ago I heard some full albums and I didn't realize they played in different time signatures and styles! I hate the radio, MTV, and pop music. We miss out on all the best music!
@GiveSic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this! Would have never figured that out on my own
@DeskLazer
Жыл бұрын
It's interesting, because I always heard it as 2x 6/4 and 1x 7/4 (and I actually thought it was 9/4 + 10/4 the first time!) David hears is at 3x 3/4 with 2x 5/4, which is not something I considered and changes the feel for me, in a cool way. Also @pongop, rusty cage was the first soundgarden song I ever heard, on radio! It was a killer single and introduced me to the rest of their catalogue.
@brian1749
Жыл бұрын
That piece at the end is absolutely beautiful!!! Well done, sir!
@wearetomorrowspast.5617
Жыл бұрын
I remember an interview with Bill Bruford where he was talking about fans telling him that he was one of the greatest rock/prog drummers. His response was: "I thought we were playing Jazz". Perfect. This vid has me thinking of writing a song in 21/12. Rush fans never sleep.
@salty_3k506
Жыл бұрын
what does 21/12 even mean? 21 8th note triplets? or rather 7 triplets or just something in 7/4
@wearetomorrowspast.5617
Жыл бұрын
@@salty_3k506 It's a Rush joke.
@salty_3k506
Жыл бұрын
@@wearetomorrowspast.5617 hm okay. i guess i get it actually because their album is called 2112. could have noticed that myself actually lol. i was just too perplexed by what 21/21 would actually be as a time signature to think about the album.
@spongyfungus
Жыл бұрын
David Bennett’s composition in 19/8 is absolutely gorgeous.. best part of the video, emotionally speaking.. 👌🏻
@wozzywick
Жыл бұрын
I love this series of videos. I agree with the Chicago guy- anyone can write in an unusual time signature, it’s making it feel natural that’s impressive
@adamsmith7058
Жыл бұрын
That's it exactly. It should appear completely natural rather than bolted on, like a Frankenstein monster, in order to appear clever. It should work as if the piece couldn't work any other way,
@SuperIdiotMan00
Жыл бұрын
I could make Dream Theater addendums to every one of these videos, but a few I'll mention here is the outro of Home (last several bars are in 19/16, essentially 4/4+3/16 feel), and Pale Blue Dot (which goes from 4+4+4+4+3 to 3+3+3+3+3+4 in the intro)
@MaydupNem
Жыл бұрын
I tried to learn home on drums, and the whole thing is easy except for the last part; that would screw me up every time
@Rio_1111
Жыл бұрын
I never even noticed that about Pale Blue Dot. Very cool
@colinbaker3916
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for featuring Chicago. They became synonymous with simple ballads, but their earliest music is quite complex and satisfying.
@diegowilliams1608
Жыл бұрын
I have been absolutely obsessed with Don Ellis recently. You could make an entire series dedicated to all of the weird time signatures he's used.
@ritz1119
Жыл бұрын
The piano piece in 19/8 time at the end is so beautiful!
@Zantor
Жыл бұрын
The way I learnt to count in 19/8 was Dream Theater's "Pale Blue Dot" the main riff is very clearly counted in 1, 2, 3, 4, 123
@bo77om
Жыл бұрын
David, that piece you wrote is amazing!!!!
@adamsmith7058
Жыл бұрын
Lovely tune at the end. Filling it out in my mind, with a small string ensemble, languid extemporised fretless bass and suspended cymbals played with brushes. Sounds great as it is though, with a more minimal arrangement. Would love to hear this with a suite of other similar pieces.
@sharpphilip
Жыл бұрын
David, your original compositions after all of your recent odd time videos have been lovely. I do hope you’ll consider fleshing them out into full pieces one day and grouping them into an album!
@adamsmith7058
Жыл бұрын
I'd pay money for that.
@mintegral1719
Жыл бұрын
His own version of Time Out lol
@xgc_ssb
Жыл бұрын
Animal As Leaders as been cited FINALLY, they are so talented
@PuppetMasterIX
Жыл бұрын
The outro of "Home" and the intro of "Pale Blue Dot", both by Dream Theater, are played in 19/16. In both cases they're essentially played as 4 4 4 4 3.
@brandonwootton5575
Жыл бұрын
A great example of 19/8 grouped 4, 4, 4, 4, 3 is Frank Zappa’s “Keep it greasy”. There are also many other great examples of esoteric music theory concepts in the song
@12gaugeStratigrad
Жыл бұрын
Petition to make DAW's allow you to use numerators and in some cases denominators above 16.
@12gaugeStratigrad
Жыл бұрын
I'm aware i can easily notate long TS's by notating the bars to whatever Time Signature i need by accenting them, but i'm a freak, i wan't to subvert the listener.
@farn451
Жыл бұрын
Totally hear that Don Ellis track as 6/8/ 5/8 and 4/4. The first part swings and then straightens up to my ears.
@holdingpattern245
Жыл бұрын
I like this signature actually. You can make it really frantic by building it out of 3-segments, or really chill by building it out of 4-segments. It's got an addictive sound, I'm just tapping out 3 3 3 3 7 and switching it occasionally to 3 3 3 5 5 and it sounds wild, but if I try 4 4 4 4 3 or 4 4 4 7 then it settles into a chill groove, like 16 with a very relaxed ending. 7 7 5 is weird but I can imagine a pop song using it, it has a dance kind of rhythm to it.
@KaidenBird
Жыл бұрын
I see tosin I click
@dylankempthorne
Жыл бұрын
I wish he talked more about them 😭
@TyTheRegularMan
Жыл бұрын
So glad that Don Ellis is getting so much exposure! He's my favorite trumpeter and bandleader of all time.
@mikaeldk5700
Жыл бұрын
Tool: "Pneuma". A total of 31/8, but everyone seems to hear the subdivisions different. A very interesting piece of music.
@SomethingWellesian
Жыл бұрын
I had a friend in college who wrote a piece for harp called Rising, named in honour the Irish rebellion of 1916, in 19/16 time. If I remember right, she built it so that it felt like a reel (two sets of eight quavers) with a “missed step” three semiquavers rounding off every bar.
@RockStar85674
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely gorgeous outro and whole material itself! Thanks a lot!
@camcamgamer
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love you videos. Keep Up The Great WORK!
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@matthewdockray9745
Жыл бұрын
Can you make an album with all your odd time signature piano pieces? They’re sick
@myplantswearpants1030
Жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your original compositions that you include at the end of the video. Would love a compilation of those and the exercises that employ.
@petersvan7880
Жыл бұрын
Just seeing the title of this video made be smile. Why simple when it can be complicated? But well, great stuff analyzing these odd signatures! Beautiful piano piece at the end :)
@criggie
Жыл бұрын
Your example shows it well - I hear it as the arpeggiato is just "stepping forward" occasionally but its still a even number/4 So the "first beat" becomes later in the rising sequence.
@maxwellclark2345
Жыл бұрын
Years ago I played with a Balkan / Klezmer band that wrote original music in addition to playing traditional and standards... We had a song called "559". You can probably guess what time signature that was in!
@clipsmasterproductions7479
Жыл бұрын
Man, your composition at the end is so weird and syncopated feeling in the best way!
@stepladderwick7056
Жыл бұрын
My favourite use of 19 in music has got to be the intro riff to Mike Oldfield's "Amarok" which is in 19/16 and kicks absolute ass!
@mattwhite399
Жыл бұрын
David, your piece at the end is remarkable! Please flesh out into a full production and release!
@jackmadden8234
Жыл бұрын
6:53 Although it's in 19/16 rather than 8 or 4, "Home" by Dream Theater is a good example of a song that uses the 4+4+4+4+3 subdivision.
@NeonRadarMusic
Жыл бұрын
There's a long bit in the intro of Rival Sons' Look Away which is in 19/8. Quite an underrated band.
@iancurry
Жыл бұрын
your composition at the end is hauntingly beautiful. i love the feel that the grouping you used provides.😀
@AlyraMoondancer
Жыл бұрын
That piece you wrote there at the end is just beautiful, David. Thank you for a moment of sheer heaven. :)
@elen5871
Жыл бұрын
wow that 4 4 4 4 3 is really compelling, i love how it keeps you from ever 'settling in' to the song.
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
😊😊😊
@elen5871
Жыл бұрын
@@DavidBennettPiano can I just take a quick second to thank you? your videos like these have really rekindled my love of music, this is all the stuff I was too ADHD to learn when I was a kid and just wanted to play in punk bands instead of jazz band, but now it's like OHHHH THAT'S WHY THINGS SOUND COOL WHEN I DO THAT, been eating up your back catalog and subscribed. super appreciate all you've done! 🥰
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
@@elen5871 thank you! That means a lot 😊😊😊
@krismer7742
Жыл бұрын
i’ve been waiting to see Tosin in one of these thumbnails for YEARS
@jonathansefcik473
Жыл бұрын
The main riff of Dream Theater's "Pale Blue Dot" is in 19/16. I know, not technically 19/8, but still an example of 19 beats per measure.
@haikovd8371
Жыл бұрын
Hell's Bells is one of the catchiest riffs ever
@erickborling1302
Жыл бұрын
BILL BRUFORD "Hell's Bells" from One of a Kind.
@erickborling1302
Жыл бұрын
Fun lyric to go with the opening riff ||: Can you feel, can you feel, can you feel nineteen :||
@0salum0
Жыл бұрын
certain songs in odd time have a jolting sound in their music and I feel like a great musician can help soothe this jolt
@arcticlemur5436
Жыл бұрын
I cant believe there was no mention of “Undeviginti” by Simon Phillips. I mean the title is literally nineteen. Great work though, I love this series!
@ClawHammermusic
Жыл бұрын
A video on finding the 1 in some complex drums like Ginger Baker and Matt Cameron would be cool.
@cakemartyr5794
Жыл бұрын
Very nice piece at the end. Thanks for featuring Bruford.
@marvelboy74
9 ай бұрын
Once again, David understood the assignment with his composition. Very beautiful.
@luchino9978
11 ай бұрын
The song at the end is beatiful ! Great job !
@BrokenWingman
Жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Also loved your piano piece at the end; very sad and beautiful.
@MadSlantedPowers
Жыл бұрын
Love your tune at the end. It would fit in well with some of the ambient music I listen to, but would also be a great basis for a slow, melancholy rock song that builds up to some power chords.
@dazwold
Жыл бұрын
The Pale Blue Dot intro and the sitar section of Home by Dream Theater are in 19/16
@Hutch500
Жыл бұрын
Finally a David Bennett that features Animals as Leaders!!!! Been waiting for so long for you to mention them as their music is so complex
@jimw6659
Жыл бұрын
Oh, thank you - Chicago Transit Authority is an amazing album… and I grew up playing Hell’s Bells - Bruford’s finest 😊
@recksroller2220
Жыл бұрын
6:53 "Keep It Greasey" by Frank Zappa and "Celestial Terrestrial Commuters" by Mahavishnu Orchestra use this subdivision.
@unknownfeeling
Жыл бұрын
That outro song is fucking awesome! I am rarely that excited but I really meant it.
@patemblen3644
Жыл бұрын
I love your ending compositions, you are so consistently good man. Kudos.
@gabrieletrovato3939
3 ай бұрын
Beautiful video as always. Please publish your piece in 19/8 on Spotify 🙏🏻
@TedThomasTT
Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to see Tosin in a thumbnail 🤘
@SoleaGalilei
Жыл бұрын
I really love your outro piece. It sounds like it could belong on A Moon Shaped Pool.
@Gazonkie
Жыл бұрын
Rainbow by Battles!! Always loved the 19 feel of that song, and almost the entire song is in it
@theunwelcome
Жыл бұрын
always wondered what the weird beat was in the middle of Rusty Cage, makes it feel very different from what you'd normally expect from a rock song
@marlin2131
Жыл бұрын
the different piano emphases on the outro song js great. it reminds me a lot of the excellent silent hill 2 soundtrack
@publiconions6313
Жыл бұрын
That has allways been my favorite part of rusty cage and I never could quite put my finger on why
@mintegral1719
Жыл бұрын
If you ever feel compelled to continue this series, an early section of 'Methuselah's Children' by Moon Safari has alternating measures of 11/8 and 12/8, which you could definitely choose to count as 23/8 if you wanted to ;)
@RolioGames
Жыл бұрын
The Legend of Zelda Shrine battle theme is in 11+13 over 16 time, and I have never been more proud of when I correctly counted along to it the first time
@lorenzolevy4708
Жыл бұрын
Also Happiness is a Warm Gun in the Mother Superior section!
@DForSpiD
Жыл бұрын
Might be my favorite piece you've done for the end of one of these videos
@Hakabas01
9 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation, and a nice tune at the end!
@robinmatias7180
Жыл бұрын
Finally some animals as leaders! As someone who enjoys their work quite a lot, i appreaciate you mentioning them.
@alfonzog6327
Жыл бұрын
The song 'Home' by Dream Theater has that grouping of four bars of 4/4 + one bar of 3/4, though it's so fast as to be more like 4/4+3/16
@Jedward108
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful song you performed at the end.
@TiredLowBrass8048
Жыл бұрын
for as weird as 19/8 is, I've played one song in 21/8 time, called Out of Tartarus. It comes from a game called hades, which is chock full of odd time signatures. If you need one more example for the ineveitable 21/8 video, then there we go.
@TheSharkAnt
Жыл бұрын
I think 21/8 is similar to 9/8 and 15/8 in that it can be used as an odd meter or a compound meter.
@TiredLowBrass8048
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSharkAnt Yeah, I think in one of these earlier vids about 7/4, he talked about how Money (I forget by who) was in shuffled 7/4, or could be written as 21/8. those sorts of odd compound meters are fun imo.
@ngmelville
Жыл бұрын
As always, very eye-opening video; that song at the end was very superb. Your deconstruction is a great way to get motivated to write!
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
😊 thank you!
@SamStormsKBD
Жыл бұрын
Another great video, not to mention the beautiful piece in the end 👏🏻
@Ivanskywaker
Жыл бұрын
Your song at the end is amazing! Beatiful and nostalgic, I can see it as the score of a movie of lost and hope
@webstercat
Жыл бұрын
As a drummer you can approach these time signatures by establishing the underlying pulse, say 16th & hear the melody as it sinks with the pulse of constant notes your playing. Apply the accents where needed. If you understand this approach it simplifies what is presented as difficult.
@phillydterminaldisease6578
Жыл бұрын
0:30 THIS REMINDS ME OF BAND CLASS HAVING TO DO THE RYTHM EXERCISES
@rbnh9827
Жыл бұрын
You gotta do whole separate video for Soundgarden’s use of Time Signatures. While simultaneously churning out, popular singles.
@PauloT.Silva-pts.anywhen
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Music you made. Just beautiful.
@irvingperes
Жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT ANIMALS AS LEADERS!!! You're really stepping up your game, David!
@nottheonlydreamer9512
Жыл бұрын
Your original piece at the end is really good, very cinematic. Put some strings on it and you've got a film score
@tomaszmakowski2766
Жыл бұрын
happy every time Chicago gets credits 😊
@fabiobomme9526
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video, with an interesting composition at the end. Thank you
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@adamsmith7058
Жыл бұрын
@5:19 That's my jam. When I used to DJ Jazz and Funk I'd drop this tune at the end, just to see if anybody could dance to it. My girl, at the time, who was part of an avant garde dance troupe managed it, along with her friends from the company. 0ther people were less successful boogieing to it. Myself included ;) Wicked that a lickle yout like Bennett is carrying this goodness forward though. Good ears with a wide knowledge for one so young. Respect.
@hfjjor3681
Жыл бұрын
And Terry Kath didn’t even know how to read or write music. Chicago’s trombonist, James Pankow, had to translate Terry’s ideas into the musical notes, rests, time signatures, etc. on paper. Otherwise it was just all in Kath’s head! For more in-depth info on how Introduction came to be, catch the documentary about Terry Kath that was done by his daughter Michelle Kath Sinclair in 2016 - Searching for Terry (AKA The Terry Kath Experience. )
@spencercorona2558
9 ай бұрын
Probably my favorite ending piece of yours
@nenostevens5176
Жыл бұрын
Very nice work. Clear and easy to follow. Your end track is way kewl!
@DanTurfMan96
Жыл бұрын
David Bennett, your outro is beautiful, as always.
@atanjacket
Жыл бұрын
Hey the explainer videos are awesome to showcase who has used different patterns in music, but the music you have done at the end of the videos that I have seen are great songs.
@colins2
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, loved your composition at the end!
@11jasey
Жыл бұрын
I love your piece of music near the end. Great feel. Melancholy and slight horror, to me anyways.
@nbnewman
Жыл бұрын
Great video. As soon as I saw the title, I thought to myself "Hell's bells", so I'm pleased that you covered that piece of music. In what time signature would you consider to be the second half of the original version of "Matty Groves" by Fairport Convention (it's a tune called 'Famous flower of serving men')? I once sequenced the tune/riff and it came out with 19 beats.
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