What was your favorite part of Sonic Forces... if there was one?
@xenobestx8423
2 жыл бұрын
The soundtrack, I listen to it every now and then.
@fezupnext06
2 жыл бұрын
@@xenobestx8423 icl I think the soundtrack is ass but if you like it more power to you!
@gracekim25
Жыл бұрын
Mmm I guess the fact that you get to fight alongside Sonic as the Avatar and um playing as Shadow or super sonic
@Hyp3rSonic
2 ай бұрын
Time attack
@mastercreepy5893
5 жыл бұрын
2008 to 2017 9 years apart and I can't believe Unleashed is still the best looking Sonic game.
@theboxman1294
5 жыл бұрын
I agree to that.i think it’s because the made a balance between the hedgehog engine and the frame rate.
@cliffturbo2146
5 жыл бұрын
I think Lost World looked better.
@gaso3035
5 жыл бұрын
Correction 2005-2018 Can't believe Shadow the hedgehog is still the only decent soinc game
@cliffturbo2146
5 жыл бұрын
@@lonradb Yeah, that may be it. It's just that the 7 worlds you're visiting has each of their own theme color, so that's probably why. But don't get me wrong, Unleashed still looks fantastic to this day.
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
CliffTurbo Agreed.
@LucileStarlight
5 жыл бұрын
"so infinite, what's your backstory" "Some black edgy hedgehog called me weak, so I desired to be stronger and edgier" "hm good enough"
@thedead073
5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact Metal Sonic (bossfight) wasn't supposed to be in the game. They reskinned the infinite fight to get an extra level.
@theboxman1294
5 жыл бұрын
That’s really classic sega
@BrokenAce1295
5 жыл бұрын
*{TGD} hardcorepro* So really, Metal Sonic as a whole wasn't supposed to be in Forces? That is so terrible. What was the point of him being in the teaser trailer then with Zavok, Shadow (another disappointment) and Chaos (another disappointment)?
@BrokenAce1295
5 жыл бұрын
@@londonjackson8986 There's a theory going around over how the Metal Sonic boss fight was added in late in development. It seems like that's the case to me because of how Metal Sonic's boss fight is the exact same as Infinite's final boss fight. Metal Sonic's boss fight looks to be treated as an after-thought or, as {TGD} hardcorepro said, as a means of getting in an extra level.
@thedead073
5 жыл бұрын
@@londonjackson8986 If you think about it. It makes sense. What effect does metal sonic have in the plot?
@thedead073
5 жыл бұрын
@@londonjackson8986 That's true but this is a war. The game was short because it didn't have any complications. I would have preferred if once green Hill was sieges by the resistance. Chaos would attack it or something. And take it back, prompting some one to step in and defeat it. It has no impact on the story but at least it makes sense. Given the context With metal sonic it was: Amy: "metal sonic is in sunset heights kick his ass." Its just doesn't do anything
@squibbdibb
5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact! This game legitimately only had 3 level designers, only one of which ever worked on a Sonic Game before! (Lost World) Yea...I’ll let you sit and think about that...
@gregzotter6189
3 жыл бұрын
No wonder it sucked.
@GingerBeanie
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic deserves better.
@spartanq7781
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly it's a good thing Mania happened though. That game is so damn fantastic.
@GingerBeanie
5 жыл бұрын
@@spartanq7781 Sonic still has a great comic series and amazing cartoons which saves him, but he's a video game character first. He needs good games first.
@spartanq7781
5 жыл бұрын
@@GingerBeanie I don't care about the comics.
@GingerBeanie
5 жыл бұрын
@@spartanq7781 When the games fail, the comics shine. It's where Sonic is best.
@Nomadthejester
5 жыл бұрын
*Deserved
@patrickhughes288
5 жыл бұрын
One year later im still bitterly disappointed with sega and sonic team for failing there mascot the way they did in this game.
@undergalaxy775
5 жыл бұрын
Well it's not like time will suddenly changes a game or anything
@dshaynietheawesome
5 жыл бұрын
Does it bother you that both nintendo and disney do a better job animating sonic then sonic team?
@TechBlade9000
5 жыл бұрын
Not just animate but direct
@ayoria4295
5 жыл бұрын
Yup i saw that Wreck it Ralph 2 trailer and sonic looks pretty good
@EggFighterXB-
5 жыл бұрын
That doesn'take sense You are comparing CGI to in-game cutscenes The CGI for Sonic looks the same as your examples
@purplefish3609
5 жыл бұрын
watch sonic unleashed cg intro also sonic adventure cg intro and youl see
@EggFighterXB-
5 жыл бұрын
Purple Fish Sonic adventure is from 1998 though And unleashed looks the same as what the OP mentioned
@tyward872
5 жыл бұрын
Who’s hyped for sonic unleashed 10 year anniversary?
@LordNightmare47
5 жыл бұрын
I am.
@Hdubs44
5 жыл бұрын
@@LordNightmare47 don't care.
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
I am
@infamouswarrior1901
5 жыл бұрын
@@LordNightmare47 lol unleashed fan boy got triggered Over an opinion.
@LordNightmare47
5 жыл бұрын
Infamous warrior ?
@LucasMBoysOurRoy
5 жыл бұрын
Well, might as well repost my review of Sonic Forces here. I truly forget how much I hate this game. Sonic Forces (in my opinion) is bad because of numerous reasons. These reasons being: -Terrible level design -Terrible physics -Short length -Mediocre writing -Constant nostalgia pandering -and FALSE ADVERTISING Level Design: Most (if not all) of the stages are just straight hallways where all you need to do is hold forward, or literally hold the boost button (latter applies to Modern Sonic only). A perfect example of this is Luminous Forest. You can literally beat the level with only one button. Not to mention that you can beat them within 1-2 minutes. Unleashed and Gens had great level design and length, so there should be no excuses for their terrible level design. Physics: It's not just Classic Sonic who has bad physics, but it's ALL THREE OF THEM. Modern Sonic feels unnatural, especially compared to the previous boost games. He speeds up too fast, and is hard to move left and right. The custom character (CC) is similar to Sonic, except worse. The CC speeds up even faster when they touch the ground, and is even harder to control, leading to unnecessary deaths while platforming. A great example of this is Guardian Rock, when trying to jump over small gaps. It's really easy to fall there because of the terrible physics. I haven't even touched the worst one...CLASSIC SONIC. Oh boy, does this character fall flat on his face. His physics aren't just off...they're TERRIBLE. Running down a hill in Chemical Plant? No momentum. Rolling over a pit in Luminous Forest? Fall down straight like a rock. Even when compared to Generations, the physics aren't good at all. Short Length: The game only has 30 stages. That doesn't sound bad, right? But remember how I said that the levels can be finished in 1-2 minutes? Well, multiply 1.5 by 30, and you only get 45 minutes of gameplay in total. When you add the 1 hr 27 min of cutscenes, you get roughly 2 hr 12 min of the campaign. 2 HOURS FOR A 40$ GAME. When you compare that to literally any other game released in 2017, the numbers are laughable in comparison. Mediocre Writing: It's not as bad as the likes of Colors and Lost World, but it's not really good. Infinite's backstory is just "I'M NOT WEAK AAAAA", and the dialogue just feels bland. The tone is all over the place. First, it's "this is why it's called war" and "Tails has just lost it", but the it turns into "the power of fwendship". It isn't as terrible as BALDY NOSEHAIR, but saying that it's "not as terrible" should show a sign that it's not good. Nothing really exciting happens. Nostalgia Pandering: We're getting to my favorite part. This is what held the game back from being good. Bringing back Classic Sonic, Green Hill, Chemical Plant, and the Wisps were not a good idea. They tried to do what Generations did before, but ended up failing. It's almost as if the game was built around nostalgia pandering, and that substance was secondary. They neglected any Adventure Era fans, except for the big middle finger towards them, in the form of false advertising. Which leads me to my next point... False Advertising: This is just unforgivable. They used Chaos as a marketing ploy to draw in Adventure Era fans, but didn't give him enough screen time to justify the marketing point. He wasn't even relevant to the game. They put him in the E3 trailer, and put him in Sonic Forces Speed Battle, and they even put him in the Forces comics, but he's barely in the game for more than a minute. These are the reasons I give Sonic Forces a 3/10. It's irredeemable in every aspect. This game is complete garbage and is not worth 40 dollars. I'd even say that it's worse than 06.
@papermario6856
5 жыл бұрын
@@lonradb I regret asking for this game for Christmas.... Don't have an Xbox so no unleashed or generations!
@ActuallyTragic
5 жыл бұрын
Lucas M What separates the Forces from the 06s is the effort and ambition. 06 was bad because of poor decision making and development hell, Forces was outright never intended to be a good game, and that's apparent in every aspect of its being. That's why Forces will always be worse to me, because its whole existence is a farce designed to push units and pander to children and desperate fans.
@d3-penguin954
5 жыл бұрын
I'm also upset they got rid of the drift mechanic from the other boost games and the homing attack feels like shit in this game...
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
Paper Mario I’m sorry to hear that. Also, you can still play Generations if you have a PC. But not Unleashed, though.
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
10 obama Harry potter Yeah. It led me to soo many deaths. But yet they added the drop dash for Classic Sonic, and he’s eh in this game.
@MS46532
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic Forces you to play Mania instead...
@SuperSonicWarrior93
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic Forces me to play the Adventure games instead.
@MS46532
5 жыл бұрын
@@lonradb Welcome to the Club M8
@MS46532
5 жыл бұрын
@@londonjackson8986 Well they did... but with mods
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625
5 жыл бұрын
He did mania already that's he's last video he just made.
@cliffturbo2146
5 жыл бұрын
@@lonradb Cool! My favorite is Sonic Heroes.
@adrianleonce455
5 жыл бұрын
Man, this game.................this game was gut-punching disappointing for me. Ever since the first trailer, I had hope that this game would be very good. After seeing all the gameplay footage and other trailers I saw for this game, I continued to have hope that this game would be at least good. But looking back, I was more excited for the potential rather than what was shown in the trailers. It has been a long time since a game disappointed me soo much. Sooooo much stuff WASTED in this game. The level design was bland, the controls are weird, the difficulty was REALLY easy etc. Even the story wasn't anything special and was a mess in s couple places. Forces kinda taught me a lesson though. I taught me that Sonic Team/SEGA(at this moment) are clueless, lazy, and bad at making proper decisions. If Sonic Team announces a new Sonic game again, I am not getting my hopes up. My faith in them has extinguished.
@LucasMBoysOurRoy
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Forces is truly the game that killed Sonic for me. I have no hope for the future of the franchise.
@NightmareX42
5 жыл бұрын
@Adrian Leonce I know man... I was exactly like you say and now i have the same feeling...
@BruceWayne-kz9st
5 жыл бұрын
@FingerDawg Amazing everything you just wrote is totally wrong, the fact you think sonic is a all about game play rather then story is your own subjective opinion. There have been sonic games with good stories and effort put in to them forces is the total opposite it's pretty obvious it was a rushed lazy budget title and no that isn't an opinion it's a fact.They made 3 newcomers work on this game despite never working on a sonic game before, they reuse so many assets from the last sonic game sonic lost world which btw was also mediocre, they added in classic sonic to pan out the game and to appeal to classic sonic fans, they false advertised many aspects of the game only to never incorporate it into the game itself, and so on and so on. In conclusion fans have every right to criticize this game considering the fact we know sonic team can do better they have in the past, giving them a pass on forces is just going to encourage more mediocrity.
@BruceWayne-kz9st
5 жыл бұрын
@FingerDawg One stop putting words in my mouth, where the hell did I complain about classic sonic changing to modern sonic. Two nope wrong again my argument has more ground to stand on, because I actually have facts as to why forces ended up the way it did mostly everything you wrote has no weight because you have no facts because everything is just your bias subjective opinion; and three your grammar is terrible.
@nilesdobbs4215
5 жыл бұрын
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Because Sonic Team was just SO competent at making Sonic games before Sonic Forces came out. Give me a fucking break.
@kozzyarts
5 жыл бұрын
Amy’s voice is awful and I can’t stand listening to it Dr Eggmans voice is still the best by far
@MS46532
5 жыл бұрын
Minnie Mouse the Hedgehog that what you can call her
@kieranstark7213
5 жыл бұрын
Cindy Robinson still voices Amy Rose since 2010, but since approx. a half-decade ago, she did sound a lot more like a perfectly normal recent cartoon female than a prissy teenage girl that obsesses over boys like a yandere.
@mep6302
4 жыл бұрын
The best Eggman? WTF?
@jordancromwell
4 жыл бұрын
Ikr? Her 4kids and Adventure voice was far better
@dshaynietheawesome
5 жыл бұрын
Gotta agree worst voice performance yet for these actors and it doesn’t help the garbage they spew out is equivalent to what you’d see on a toddlers cartoon
@AppleSlipper
5 жыл бұрын
I actually like the voice acting performances.
@MS46532
5 жыл бұрын
The Voice Actor i don't mind.... The Writing Though....
@WaterKirby1994
5 жыл бұрын
4kids Era didn't have these problems with serious voice acting, neither did the Dreamcast Era. Roger Craig Smith was always a terrible fit for Sonic's VA & having Amy sound like a Disney Mouse was a mistake as well. We can only hope we get proper English VAs for them soon & get decent writing as well.
@Blueflag04
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic has been a toddler cartoon for many years anyway
@jackko21
4 жыл бұрын
dshaynie its sad that tails sounds like a girl again its sad because kate higgins was the best tails voice ever
@BroeyBroe
5 жыл бұрын
It's like Clement said: "As a sonic fan, it's disappointing..."
@tigerbabe7777
5 жыл бұрын
Broey when did he say that?
@BroeyBroe
5 жыл бұрын
At the very end of the brain scratch playthrough during the credits haha.
@tigerbabe7777
5 жыл бұрын
Broey ah
@islandboy9381
5 жыл бұрын
Lol at this point, not even the fans can make up their minds of what they want from Sonic
@BroeyBroe
5 жыл бұрын
@@islandboy9381 true lmao
@TDKverse
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic spinball is more enjoyable than this game's writing.
@ActuallyTragic
5 жыл бұрын
I genuinely, whole-heartedly despise this game? I would go on for ages, but to be honest the only way I'd do my thoughts justice is by making my own review that'd be way too long for its own good. It's all kinds of wrong and takes the worst parts of Generations, Colours and Lost World to make a strong contender for the worst game I've ever played.
@LucasMBoysOurRoy
5 жыл бұрын
Facts
@LucasMBoysOurRoy
5 жыл бұрын
Well, let’s see: All levels are linear, all the characters’ physics suck, game is short as hell, writing is bad, way too much 2D and nostalgia pandering, and false advertising. As a matter of fact, I would suggest that we’re being too easy on Forces. But whatever it’s an opinion
@ActuallyTragic
5 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Luminous Forest and the wonderful series of tubes where all I have to do is hold X. And who could forget the GENIUS platforming segment that I can just Airboost over? Truly, Sonic Team are masters of their craft and Forces is an underrated gem. @Semaj Hogue
@Kuzamer
5 жыл бұрын
Only 90's kids remember the Sonic Forces Defense Squad.
@mrbanks456
5 жыл бұрын
A beefed up graphics engine won't save shit design and a lack of effort. The opposite of that is the main reason why Unleashed's visuals still hold up incredibly well.
@mrbanks456
5 жыл бұрын
@@londonjackson8986 Umm, I know... this comment was sorta directed towards sonic team. I was just making a point.
@ActuallyTragic
5 жыл бұрын
JoJo Banks Forces' art design is pure garbage, it takes too many cues from the god-awful style in Lost World and everything ends up clashing and looking bland as all fuck. It tries so hard to be classic Sonic that it ends up looking nothing like any Sonic game I've ever seen.
@jambastion1285
5 жыл бұрын
Unleashed looks great but it runs like shit, for a game that is all about speed, playing a level at 19 FPS is not favorable. With Forces, they wanted it to run at consistent 60 FPS and I actually think that was a smart decision on their part, on Switch it runs at 30 FPS, which means they couldn't go all out with the graphics.
@mrbanks456
5 жыл бұрын
@@jambastion1285 You're talking about graphical capability tho, I'm talking about design. Besides, if Unleashed came out today, it would have no problem on any current gen console.
@mrbanks456
5 жыл бұрын
@@ActuallyTragic That one casino woods level really comes to mind when I think of the word "clashing".
@christian8657
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic forces ONE YEAR LATER. It still sucks. VIDEO DONE.
@Blueflag04
5 жыл бұрын
Two Years Later , still sucks
@mep6302
4 жыл бұрын
@@Blueflag04 No, it doesn't
@LordNightmare47
5 жыл бұрын
Werehog>>>>>>>>>>any Gameplay style in Sonic Forces.
@akeemtaylor8375
5 жыл бұрын
The wisps from colors are better then both
@akeemtaylor8375
5 жыл бұрын
@Funnel Star he wisps are overall better designed. In some cases, they are optional so if you hate them, you dont always have to use them while you are forced to use werehog all the time. The wisps are also closer to previous gameplay styles and fit in with sonic. Lazer blasts through enemies at light speed. Obviously a reference to sonics speed Drill digs underground which is very easy to controll and practicly functions like knuckles dig in sonic boom Spike allows you to do spindash and climb walls. All similar to the classic games. Rocket lets you blast up into the sky which is basically what a spring does Cube is probably the wrost powerup but even then it still lets you play exactly like sonic. Hover is similar to controlling tails while flying and allows the player to do light speed dash Frenzy allows you to swallow anything in your way which is similar to the boost games level design
@mastervidxad5883
5 жыл бұрын
I'd rather play Sonic 06 than nostalgic bait trash that is Forces.
@sama-km9gv
5 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Falto
4 жыл бұрын
Master Vidxad 58 facts
@mep6302
4 жыл бұрын
@@Falto No, they're not
@mep6302
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Play a glitchy mess instead of a decent game instead
@mastervidxad5883
4 жыл бұрын
@@mep6302 Yes, play a glitchy FUN game instead of a mediocre/forgettable game.
@0rderSol
5 жыл бұрын
Why Sonic 06 gets hour long reviews; It's bad, but you really can see the diamond in the rough. Why Sonic Forces gets hour long reviews; I don't understand, the whole thing is BORING, which is worse than bad, it's not even worth your time.
@friendlynoob6006
5 жыл бұрын
The only thing that I liked about Sonic Forces is that it lead to the IDW Sonic comics, which has a better plot than Sonic Forces'.
@tigerbabe7777
5 жыл бұрын
Friendly Noob and it actually has blaze
@mcmistle9892
5 жыл бұрын
I Have The Advantage Personally I’m glad Blaze wasn’t in Forces, since that means my second favorite character wouldn’t have been written like crap.
@ToaArcan
5 жыл бұрын
The one area I can say Forces wins out is that it didn't overstay its welcome. Meanwhile the Metal Virus arc is going to last into 2020 because Ian Flynn still hasn't figured out that he shouldn't make stories that are longer than ten issues, despite this being his _fourth_ attempt.
@SteveCrafts2k
4 жыл бұрын
@@ToaArcan it's easy to blame the writer. After all, since he wrote it, he should get the blame, right? However, the writer is only doing what his company tells him to do. Ian only does this because Sega tells him to.
@ToaArcan
4 жыл бұрын
@@SteveCrafts2k Yeah, I'm sure SEGA are the ones requesting that Ian write a year-long story where the characters are either constantly miserable or turning into zombies, and half the cast are calling Sonic an idiot and blaming him for the entire crisis because he refused to let anyone murder an amnesiac Eggman in cold blood. Definitely seems like something the company that gave us the "plots" of every game since 2010 would come up with. I get what you're trying to say, since a lot of the flaws with Ian's work for Archie were the result of SEGA meddling where they weren't wanted, and the latter years of the comic suffered for it, but A) They had the opposite problem to IDW, as their rules forced Sonic and co. to be invincible and unbreakable, and B) Even then, Ian wasn't blameless. Sure, SEGA told him that he wasn't allowed to put Sonic, Tails, or Amy through extreme hardship, but it was Ian's decision to remove Sally, Bunnie, Nicole, Antoine and Rotor from the active roster all at the same time, thereby ensuring that the entire Mecha Sally arc, supposedly Eggman's biggest win ever, was spent with him running away with his tail between his legs, scoring zero actual victories, because Ian stuck himself with the three heroes who weren't allowed to fail. About the only aspect of the Metal Virus arc that I could see being SEGA's doing is the presence of the Zeti, since it would track with their desperate attempts to convince us that Zavok is a worthwhile character over the past few years, but the dreariness and overly-long nature of the arc as a whole has Ian's fingerprints all over it, and moreover, has a distinct lack of the factors that SEGA impressed on him in the past.
@Blappyboop
5 жыл бұрын
And egoraptor says that sonic Mania is objectively worse than sonic forces.
@mrbanks456
5 жыл бұрын
Daaaaamn, he said that? I mean I don't love Mania or anything but...
@kjbroadway9557
5 жыл бұрын
hindu_frappe Yeah, I don’t watch him
@Blappyboop
5 жыл бұрын
JoJo Banks yeah
@Blappyboop
5 жыл бұрын
KJ Broadway I believe it was in his sonic mania play through.
@Blappyboop
5 жыл бұрын
lonradb that is very true.
@BrokenAce1295
5 жыл бұрын
Time flies, I remember when this game wasn't out yet and there was non-stop conflict between the Forces Defense Squad and the Anti-Forces Squad over how the game would turn out. I swear, I hated this game (and still do) since it first came out. It's done so many things wrong for me as a Sonic game and has design choices I find repulsive. It mostly has to do with the gameplay whereas the characters have messed up acceleration and their control is extremely stiff, they control like a tank which is unacceptable for a platformer. Those two things ruin the game for me. That's not even getting into my hatred towards the inconsistent and lackluster story, Infinite's weak and pathetic character backstory, Classic Sonic's pointless inclusion, the other characters (other than Shadow) being unplayable and also useless compared to Sonic and the Avatar, etc...I can go on and on. That's how much this game disappointed me. I'm anxious to see what Sonic Team has in store for the future, other than Team Sonic Racing and that live-action movie.
@cliffturbo2146
5 жыл бұрын
DID YOU JUST CALL HIM WEAK!? You're right. There are so much they could had done with his character. I through he would be some kind of "world destroyer" or something.
@BrokenAce1295
5 жыл бұрын
@@cliffturbo2146 I was waiting for someone like you to point out me associating Infinite with weak. I love Liam O'Brien so much, but that "I'm not weak" line never gets old. Anyways, they technically did do so much with Infinite's character to the point that there are multiple origin stories of him in this game. One of which being him created by Dr. Eggman, the other being him working as a mercenary for Dr. Eggman and in the comic, he's part of the Jackal Squad and he turned against his team to work for Dr. Eggman. Sonic Team literally did not know what to do with Infinite. lol I think Infinite should've just been Dr. Eggman's creation. Then close by the end, Infinite betrays Dr. Eggman and goes on to try and control the world through mind manipulation. Infinite basically tries to be a world dictator and control even Eggman himself.
@AfroMing
5 жыл бұрын
Y'all did want this lol. No Sonic fan could ever deny that this game was designed to appeal to all corners of the fan-base, and in doing so left confusion, hatred, praise, and a very simple, mainstream, casual game-play experience with ideas that were not fleshed-out due to rushing. However, credit due where credit is due and that's how safe this game was. So safe that both sides on the matter are equal more or less.
@AfroMing
5 жыл бұрын
@@BrokenAce1295 watch Chronic Farces, trust me, that line really never gets old lol.
@BrokenAce1295
5 жыл бұрын
@@AfroMing I don't think so. I never wanted something like Forces before it was first revealed. I wanted another full 3D platforming-focused Sonic game that utilized the parkour system introduced from Lost World, but with improvements made to it to make it more intuitive and rely more on momentum rather than a run button. Thus, in my eyes, Forces was multiple steps backwards. You are right though about how the game tries to appeal to almost everybody. I find that however to be yet another reason why I hate the game so much. It has no focus to it. Sonic Team pointlessly brings back Classic Sonic, along with old stages to appeal to the nostalgia crowd, they add in a character creation system to appeal to kids and they try to make a "darker" story by adding in old villains like Chaos, Zavok and Metal Sonic (all of whom hardly affect the plot at all). Sonic Team essentially made what looks to be Generations 2 with a character creation system, but they managed to fuck it up by rushing development and making multiple mistakes with the game's story after hyping it up so much as being epic. It's a complete mess altogether. By the way, thank you very much for the video (Chronic Farces) you recommended to me. I almost died of laughter from it.
@superhedgehog6447
5 жыл бұрын
I rather play sonic 06 over this boring piece of crap any day. At least the level design was open and not boosting in a straight line
@AppleSlipper
5 жыл бұрын
I rather play Sonic Forces over a buggy and glitchy game like Sonic The Hedgehog (2006).
@Tycitron6000
5 жыл бұрын
Same dude at least sonic 06 had good music and levels.
@n.m.4138
5 жыл бұрын
@@Tycitron6000 agreed. It's been 11 years, and despite how buggy and glitchy, Sonic 06 did have good music and was more of an open sandbox. My favorite theme is vs silver.
@Memento_mori2222
5 жыл бұрын
i rather play 06 over forces too, at least 06 is so bad it's hilarious forces is just boring and devoid of creativity
@n.m.4138
5 жыл бұрын
@@Memento_mori2222 agreed. The bugs and glitches were hilarious at times.
@YoFreshBean
5 жыл бұрын
#BringBackTheUnleashedCreators
@SuperLuigiGuy64
5 жыл бұрын
The reason why this "game" came to be is because new developers. The people behind generations/unleashed work for nintendo now. They helped make Super Mario Odyssey. :v)
@Naiobia
5 жыл бұрын
:0 really. Woah. No wonder Odessey turned out better than i expected
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
Edit: outdated opinions and attitudes I wouldn’t say Sonic Forces is bad. And by bad, I mean godawful. Here’s my opinion: At best, it’s good. I had a lot of fun with the Modern Sonic/Avatar stages. Well. While they lasted, of course. I dislike how they changed the physics and how they removed the drift though. And most of the music was fine imo. Sure, it’s very pop and rock, but I enjoyed tunes like Park Avenue. But tunes like Classic Green Hill... ugh... At worst, I think it’s mediocre. Like, okay, but in a bad way. Classic Sonic was not fun to play as in any way shape or form. You have literally no spin in the air, making him control terribly. I swear to God he controls like an Elephant with balloons stuffed inside. Other than that, it was just disappointing. I had high hopes for this game, I thought it could be like, another Sonic Generations, but no, it’s just one hour of pure... ‘eh’. Is it better than Unleashed? By God, no way. Sonic Unleashed is not only my favourite Sonic game, but my favourite game of ALL TIME. I’m dead serious. Sonic controls better, the Werehog was great imo, and the music was more varied. Speaking of which, that game NEEDS to be ported to 8th gen consoles. The HD version of course, not the Wii/PS2 version, which is inferior in every way. Is it better than Colors? (Which in my opinion, is the second weakest game in the boost quadrilogy) Only graphically. Otherwise, no. They took the blocky 2D from that game, shoehorned it in, and made it worse. I’m not gonna be harsh on this game, but all in all, Sonic Forces is incredibly mediocre. But this is what I bought so I’m just gonna enjoy what I can. Overall, I’m ambivalent towards this game. I’d rate this game a 5/10. It’s a game, but it’s just not solid enough. (In my perspective)
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@InklingRacer456
5 жыл бұрын
lonradb At first I was hype to play it then I did an LP on my KZitem Channel then I started to see why a lot of people hate it.
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’d rate it about 5/10, no more, no less.
@elin111
5 жыл бұрын
The problem with Forces wasn't that it was bad, it's that it was decent. Sonic Mania making Classic Sonic redundant and Super Mario Odyssey coming right before it surely didn't help it either.
@soniccooldude54
5 жыл бұрын
Wow- This comment represents my feelings on the game and all else so well its scary
@chrislopez5301
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 is better than this let that sink in
@NisarKhan-jm1uh
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@WaterKirby1994
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 was better than most of the 2010s decade Sonic games. The game was clearly overhated on even though it had better graphics & story than Colors, Lost Worlds, & Forces. People clearly overreacted to the Elise kiss, even though a large percentage of the fanbase wants to do more than kiss 1 of the mobian characters. The game was severely rushed & at least it plays much better than Onigiri does on Switch a game that is so bad it makes 06 look good. If people didn't overreact to 06 we could have gotten more Adventure style games.
@LordNightmare47
5 жыл бұрын
This game is terrible and Unleashed is amazing. End of story.
@Hdubs44
5 жыл бұрын
...how? from a game design standpoint, the game is extremely flawed and im not even going to touch the night stages which are a awful ripoff of the god of war and devil may cry games.
@MS46532
5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Sonic Fanbase Horney
@FengTheSlayer
5 жыл бұрын
MARIO SONIC you can’t say one person makes the entire fanbase bad unless you meant it in a different way
@Hdubs44
5 жыл бұрын
@@MS46532 I honestly don't know what you mean. Cooper's comment section is the only place I see sonic fans mindlessly circle jerking unleashed while ignoring all it's glaring flaws.
@Hdubs44
5 жыл бұрын
@@MS46532 but then again it is 3d sonic which is a staple for excepting mediocrity
@slysonic0367
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly Sega should have kept this game in development the physics were all over the place. For classic sonic there was no momentum from him he felt stiff. And with modern sonic if you were going to fast and tried to slow down to make a turn it's really hard to and I would just end up falling off the map for going to fast. Why add chaos if we never fight him we fight all of the other bosses but not chaos. It's like they forgot about him.
@IKGProductions
5 жыл бұрын
Personally, I vastly prefer the scripts, but this certainly wasn’t bad for off-script! You definitely got your points across!
@Alandus64
5 жыл бұрын
Black Knight Griffith was pretty good
@MS46532
5 жыл бұрын
Same with Unwii i mean Unleashed
@iwanttodie.7613
5 жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe that it has been one year already. I feel like fans make the songs in sonic forces actually good if I'm being honest.
@bakercat2845
5 жыл бұрын
I traded my Sonic Forces copy in towards Red Dead Redemption 2. The best use of that game I could find..
@ecksdii
5 жыл бұрын
good choice. rdr2 is awesome
@Planars
5 жыл бұрын
i'll give a shit about a story in sonic when they fire the current ENGLISH translators... the script in Japanese was way darker, barely had any jokes from sonic, and tails isn't as cringe-y and actually made me appreciate the effort of the story at least
@ibbit5968
5 жыл бұрын
Love the work uhvsd did on the thumbnail! I don’t want to think about Forces, ima just... Put that in the corner Looking forward to those reviews! (Especially Knuckles Chaotix)
@orangeville1978
5 жыл бұрын
No beating around the bush. Looking back at it after one year, Sonic Forces is just a bad game there's no way around it. This game proves how lost Sega and Sonic Team really are. With both this game and the fact that Shadow is an assist trophy once again in Super Smash Bros Ultimate, there's really no hope for the Sonic franchise. I brought up Shadow being deconfirmed as playable in Smash because that was the final nail in the coffin for me.
@LucasMBoysOurRoy
5 жыл бұрын
Same actually
@mrbanks456
5 жыл бұрын
I think that it's ultimately Nintendo who decides who gets in Smash, and I don't think Sakurai is a huge Sonic fan (you can tell by how basic his moveset is and never bothers to improve upon it in later games). But I agree that Sega should've pushed for better and more content. Like instead of putting Green Hill Zone or one of its clones (Windy Hill) as a stage, how about Sonic's many OTHER iconic levels?
@orangeville1978
5 жыл бұрын
I didn't say that Sega is at fault there, I only said that I personally just give up on the franchise after that.
@mrevaporation_
5 жыл бұрын
Honest to God I honestly don’t see Sonic as a good icon anymore, he’s just going to lose potential if he’s still with Sonic team, I mean take a look at Smash Ultimate and Wreck It Ralph 2, Sonic is only a character and a small cameo, but Nintendo and Disney seem to do a better job than Sega could ever do. In your Lost World review you said Sonic should’ve been owned by Nintendo, and I couldn’t agree anymore. The only good game to come out Sonic Team had to be Unleashed, which even 9 years later still holds up as a solid game.
@mrevaporation_
5 жыл бұрын
Ban anime And Fortnite I didn’t mention Generations because if you looked at his review of the game, he kinda shat on (WITH GOOD POINTS) and plus I’ll get attacked if I said anything anyway but Thank you!
@mrevaporation_
5 жыл бұрын
Rangez I respect your opinion but honestly, Sonic team doesn’t give a shit about Sonic anymore as far as I know
@WaterKirby1994
5 жыл бұрын
2010s decade was disastrous for Sonic, Colors & Generations were both inferior to Unleashed. We had quite a few good games from the Dreamcast & 4kids Eras like the Adventure Duology, the Advance Trilogy, Riders, the Rush games, & Black Knight.
@MeanBeanMachine5
5 жыл бұрын
But yeah, there's no excuse the graphics turned out the way they did. Especially considering that this is supposed to be the hedgehog engine 2. What a fucking joke.. Plus other complaints you mentioned on this video, this game could've been great, but it didn't..
@markeeseellis7280
5 жыл бұрын
Personally, The game is mediocre. It does some things right & did so many things wrong. It's not the greatest Sonic game in the world nor the worse. Forces is kinda just there. It has potential to be amazing but didn't take on it because incompetent development. All I can say, Infinite & the music was the best part of the game & I hope Infinite returns. Yeah this game is a 5/10 for me. Will Unleashed ever be toped? What will Sonic Team do after Team Sonic Racing? Will time constraints stop killing Sonic Team? Find out next time, Insert Dragon ball reference here
@markeeseellis7280
5 жыл бұрын
@@londonjackson8986 I'm also that small percentage of people that like Infinite concept & backstory but they didn't do it right. How you feel about the game?
@Sam-qs6io
5 жыл бұрын
Even if they were only 3 level designiers, This is so underwhelming for a game that has 4 years of development. We need to go back to the adventure gameplay.
@Pine2142
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic Forces himself apon you and Unleashes his Sonic Colours inside of your Lost World.
@mastercreepy5893
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'd rather play Sonic 06 and actually get some good laughs and fun out of glitches, bugs, and the somewhat cringe story, rather than bore my entire way through Forces vomiting to the unfunny since-2010 jokes.
@NisarKhan-jm1uh
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@johnathonturner2279
5 жыл бұрын
There was so much they could have done with this game in my opinion. They could have taken us through the entire torn up world like seeing all the countries from Sonic Unleashed! What about all of the resistance? Why not get to play as all those characters, like Tails? Or Knuckles? Hell, what about Team Chaotix? This game was disappointing.
@corel7966
5 жыл бұрын
it's pretty disappointing how forces turned out. i was really hoping that sega finally got their stuff together, but eh. great review! keep it up.
@spartanq7781
5 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about this game is it was released the year of Sonic Mania. Even if it was good Mania would render it moot. Mania is fantastic. Forces is mediocre.
@drebin6895
5 жыл бұрын
Well, the game is garbage and that’s that.
@DSmith3279
5 жыл бұрын
I gotta disagree. I honestly think Forces is an underrated gem.
@patrickhughes288
5 жыл бұрын
Ive seen people on youtube throwing the game in the trash. There just making sure knowone else has to play it.
@AppleSlipper
5 жыл бұрын
@@DSmith3279 I agree with you on that. We constantly get abused by the Sonic fanbase just for liking Sonic Forces. I can definitely remember the constant arguments and flame wars about the game last year. The Sonic fanbase was having a large war at the time.
@Sonic171K
5 жыл бұрын
Still disappointing and mediocre trash.
@pie8962
5 жыл бұрын
Tbh, sonic 06’s story is better than this
@gameman5804
5 жыл бұрын
No! If you think a story that holds no rules, characters doing things that make no sense, mostly awful dialogue, the occasional story idea that is never explored, characters that have HUGE potential to play a big role only to do absolutely nothing with them *cough* BLAZE THE CAT *cough*, convoluted plot, Sonic being reduced to Mario's role only worse, takes the tone of the Adventure games WAY too far attached with cutscenes that hold lifeless looking models, bad lip-syncing and overall bad presentation, is better than Forces, I respect your opinion, but Forces is still miles better (writing wise) than the garbage 06 had. Same with Lost World, Colors, hell Generations has a better story for the time travel premise it had alone, and there wasn't much of it to begin with. At least they're more concise, At least the characters aren't idiots, and AT LEAST they kept a focus on Sonic. When your game is more story driven and titled Sonic the Hedgehog (All Caps) but Shadow had the most significance. That's a problem. In my opinion, Forces still beats 06 for the premise alone. 06 is somewhat interesting but it can be easily mistaken as a fairy tale kind of story especially with Princess Elise and Iblis, and doesn't really fit. Forces had a decent premise which has been dappled into a few time before hand, but it's now in a game. Hadn't the game rush itself, I'll say that the story could've been way better and dare I say, actually good. But as it stands for me, 06 makes Forces look like SA2.
@gameman5804
5 жыл бұрын
Bagelbite The Evil Minion If I made my Top 5 favorite and hated 3D Sonic Games, Both would be at Number 5. 06 would be on the worst list since only the story pisses me off. Forces would barely make the favorite list because while underwhelming in many areas, there’s plenty of small things I legitimately like and can appreciate
@JayTheDweeb
5 жыл бұрын
That says a lot
@WaterKirby1994
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 had a better story than any Sonic game from the 2010s decade! Anyone who disagrees is a braindead moron who doesn't understand what good storytelling is. Ambition & trying to be serious is far better than just trying to be a lame joke like Colors. Seriously it was a huge mistake to hire Pontac & Graff to begin with & we've been stuck with those idiots for the entire decade of course they screwed up Forces story!
@moesabally1502
5 жыл бұрын
12:43 Lmao they didn't even animate Sonic's falling animations. Edit: I recently remembered that sonic does have a falling animation, which made that part of the video a minor glitch.
@droidy365
4 жыл бұрын
Hell, he doesn't even have an idle animation. That was what made him unique in Sonic 1, what made him stand out from all of the other games during that time period. It gave him a personality. Now, he just stands there... Menacingly... Constantly staring, not even blinking.
@Hypershadic23
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic has essentially become the Spider-man/deadpool of video games since all he does is make jokes, quips, and references.
@gooseleap
5 жыл бұрын
I love metal in his hooters outfit
@Skylancer727
5 жыл бұрын
I don't like the voice actors, the gameplay is dull, levels are too short for how many there are, cut scenes look cheap while those text boxes after missions look plain lazy, and the phantom ruby and Infinite are never really explained. Seriously, the cut scene with Shadow makes it seem Infinite was normal and given power by Eggman, yet they say he was built. The phantom ruby is even worse. Mania makes it seem the ruby was just found yet Eggman has "prototypes". Also, they say the ruby needs power completely randomly, the rules for what the ruby can do seem to change randomly (they are an illusion but you can be hurt by them, it can also make Infinite very fast, they can open rifts, teleport, allow flight, open null space (which Eggman straight up says he doesn't know why it can), etc), and for some reason a prototype is just as powerful as the real deal.
@markeeseellis7280
5 жыл бұрын
Infinite was going to be a robot at first.
@Skylancer727
5 жыл бұрын
@@markeeseellis7280 but he isn't in the Shadow DLC. In that he is a normal, whatever he is. They just obscure his face with a black bar. On the PC version, there was a mod developed to remove the bar and he has a normal Sonic style face. He is definitely not a robot, in fact the origin comic also showed him as a normal person so I don't know why they keep saying he is "created" by Eggman.
@markeeseellis7280
5 жыл бұрын
@@Skylancer727 I'm talking about in concept, they change him into a mercenary in the last minute
@OfficiallyMasky
5 жыл бұрын
I love how you put "boom" by Soad in here ahah
@SonicHaXD
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm a pretty hardcore Sonic fan. And I don't think you bashed the story enough XD
@smugcat723
5 жыл бұрын
The fact that Classic sonic is here still enrages me. I sorta get that they wanted to follow the success of Generations, since it got good reviews unlike Unleashed which had 1 amazing half and 1 bashed half. Generations had a reason for classic sonic; the whole thing is an ANNIVERSARY game, no shit it's gonna be made to appeal to nostalgia. After that success, the brain-dead developers think they had to include classic sonic in their next big game even though it didn't even make sense
@WaterKirby1994
5 жыл бұрын
Even Generations had no reason to Force Classic Sonic into the game. Keep in mind Sonic Adventure 2 & 06 were both Anniversary Titles & they didn't need to overload on poor quality attempts at nostalgia.
@smugcat723
5 жыл бұрын
@@WaterKirby1994 i agree dude. I only like generations for the modern sonic gameplay, the classic sonic gameplay is so bland and not well thought out
@Fantazious
5 жыл бұрын
FUN FACT: classic sonic was supposed to have a level in metropolis similar to the metropolis in sonic 2 but it got cut because it made the level count be 31 and not 30
@Prime_Legend
5 жыл бұрын
5 minutes in and I love what you said about the plot in a video game. Games are a form of entertainment just like any other media out there. The core idea of moives is "Moving pictures" and that's how most movies where in its early stage. Due to people getting bored, plot and storytelling were eventually introduced into movies. Comics is literally pictured on panels. Many years later, having a plot in a comic was a natural and right thing to do. After all, looking at good art with no context can only last for a little amount of time to keep you interested. The same thing goes for Video Games. Like honestly, why can't gameplay purist not accept this? The game industry was DOING BAD when games had zero plot to them until Mario came in and introduced narrative in a video game, which opened the door for other games to dive more deeply into storytelling into games. And I understand, not every game needs a story for it to be played for a while. Online multiplayer games with a competitive scene usually don't need a story, because your own story or plot is to simply get better at the game and become better than other players. (COD, Virtua Fighter, Fornite ect) A game like Sonic does need a plot. Sonic is a single player experience and should always be one. Therefore, in single player games, you need a world, story, a plot you can immerse your self in, which gives you a reason to play and most importantly finish the game. And this is proven. Sony has the best single player games because their games have a story. The Wii U failed because they released a lot of single player games with little to no story whatsoever. Games have a simple formula nowadays. No story = Good multiplayer needed, Good Story = Multiplayer not needed.
@cyanide_crow7970
4 жыл бұрын
The game: *tries to be edgy but fails My rewrite: (Prepare for dialouge) (Possessed) Sonic: Behold! It is I, dasani water bottle! Everyone: *laughing Infinite: What?! WHAT?! Sonic: Drink from me and you will taste the dryness of a thousand suns! Attack me if you dare! **wheeze** If you're wondering what Sonic's possessed by, basically Phantom Ruby becomes sentient, snipes Sonic, and here we are this 1am dumb hours comment.
@teryliuhoo5989
4 жыл бұрын
Haha callmecarson
@lordadz1615
5 жыл бұрын
Infinite and metal sonic boss fight is basically a rehash of silvers boss fight in generations
@steviebuckets9035
5 жыл бұрын
Give us proper 3D Sonic level design like Sonic Heroes
@williamwhite1036
3 жыл бұрын
Or Sa1
@LucasMBoysOurRoy
5 жыл бұрын
One year or not, this game is still the 2nd worst Sonic game ever
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
And the worst is?
@LucasMBoysOurRoy
5 жыл бұрын
Secret Rings by far
@Kaiser-qx9ys
5 жыл бұрын
No no not the worst, the most mediocre. Something that will get buried in the history of Sonic games; we remember Sonic 06 and Boom for how awful they were, but Forces won’t even get remembered at all
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Forces shouldn’t be compared to Secret Rings. Forces isn’t bad, it’s just incredibly mediocre. It was very disappointing and not very memorable, that’s all. Secret Rings, had a great story, but it had awfully linear stages and terrible control. I would consider the 2nd worst Sonic game to be Sonic 06, even though it’s more enjoyable and memorable than the other two mentioned. And of course, the worst would be Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric. 06 is not a good game, and nobody should think it is, but at least it had sub-par gameplay and a sub-par story. It’s a guilty pleasure for me. But Rise of Lyric? That game has nothing going for it. That game is not fun, even for the laughs.
@ultimatehope549
5 жыл бұрын
lonradb I think 06 is worse than Rise of Lyric from an objective standpoint. But subjectively, RoL is worse. I have a lot of fun playing 06 despite how bad it is, but RoL is just a bore.
@maryma1013
5 жыл бұрын
Okay. The reason why the levels are so short in sonic forces is because the Japanese people wanted shorter levels, it’s probably hard for sega to please both sides, I’ve seen this point made in a different video and it’s been made much better and clearer than I’m making it right now, but short levels were designed because the Japanese wanted that and that’s all I have to say
@LeAndre_McCoy
4 жыл бұрын
Actually the Phantom Ruby is the entire plot, of Sonic Forces. Infinite's power comes from the Ruby
@danwaddledee390
5 жыл бұрын
What really dissapoints me is how they call this the next gen Sonic game. Like yeah I know it is but a next gen game is supposed to deliver a wonderful experience not a slightly mediocre one. This was Sonic's first 3D title on 8th generation hardware and Sonic Team barely took advantage of said " Wonderful Experience". It took Sonic Team 2 whole years to update hedgehog engine 2 and 1 year of concepts for Forces development. And they had laughable marketing decisions for this half baked shell of a game in the form of "Hooters" and "false advertising". Sonic Forces doesn't feel like an evolution of a next gen Sonic game. All I can say Sonic Team put themselves in a corner and the more footage that was shown to us the more I became so fucking indifferent to the game coming out. But like Somecallmejohnny said, "Sonic Team should get some fresh new young people for future modern Sonic stuff."
@WaterKirby1994
5 жыл бұрын
Technically Lost Worlds was the 1st 3D title on 8th Gen hardware, even though it felt last gen at the time. To be fair the entire 2010s decade has been mediocre for Sonic except for Mania. Also Sonic Team did get new people for the level design, that didn't help at all.
@islandboy9381
5 жыл бұрын
How I see Forces Gameplay= Diet Colors Visuals= Diet Generations Story= Diet Adventure I get the feeling that the Unleashed team are working on a bigger project, while the Colors/Lost world team churned out this budget title for a quick buck on next gen consoles, I pray that's the case
@Quakecon-s9r
5 жыл бұрын
Sega haves all the tools to make a great sonic game, just make a sonic game with a decent story, modern fucking sonic only, add the awesome fast pace gameplay of unleashed, and you already have something decent...its not all that hard sega...
@haitamon937
5 жыл бұрын
Forces and colours both sucked tbh
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
Haitamon I can see why you’re saying Sonic Forces sucks, but saying Colors sucks- Okay, I can see why you guys hate it. I understand that it had a lot of blocky 2D, a new so-so gimmick, and sub-par control, and Forces only continues this tradition, but I don’t think Colors deserves all this newfound hate. I’m not trying to defend this game, and I’d much rather defend Unleashed, but I don’t think this is really fair, as this is the game that “brought the franchise back”. Then again, this could just be me being nostalgic and bias about this game, as Colors was my first next-gen Sonic game.
@adrianleonce455
5 жыл бұрын
I kinda agree for Forces(though, I think putting it as painfully mediocre is much deserving for it) but disagree for Colours. I think Colors is a decent game
@MS46532
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with forces but Colo"u"rs? i actually liked colo"u"rs but i respect your opinion
@HenryBitzPlus
5 жыл бұрын
colors ds is better than the wii version. No jokes, great music, great level design and god damn it has the cgi cutscenes on the ds
@Trial4RTC
5 жыл бұрын
@@lonradb I get the point people make comparing Colors and Forces, but at the very least, I can't half ass Colors in the same way I can Forces. Colors isn't all that, but acting like it's just as bad as Forces?...no.
@lightmagus
5 жыл бұрын
"But then classic Sonic appeared and I completely lost interest" wot?
@cliffturbo2146
5 жыл бұрын
Why is it so satisfying to hear you be so evil to this game
@harristhesecondcomin
5 жыл бұрын
Still shit. Sega best be glad Spyro reignited and red dead didn't exist around Nov 2017.
@dantekenway7900
5 жыл бұрын
Your tone really makes the video exciting to watch
@Sjono
5 жыл бұрын
I’m seriously disappointed by how the returning villains extremely got shafted
@NightNinja1998
5 жыл бұрын
I'll say this, we can always have disagreements, but a huge amount of the time I truly like your viewpoint on many things and I still thoroughly enjoy your videos man, great one as always. By the way, we can both agree against the newest cast as a whole(aside from Eggman, I find his performance great as long as he has great material to go off of) is pretty poor, especially the American writing... I would personally like to even see Drummond one day come back even if it was just once, Sega at the very least has tried to always be very friendly with fans and I've always appreciated it, hell their friendliness towards the fan games side of things to take one on as arguably one of the best Classic Sonic games to date, I'd say Sega can definitely have some big wins, you've even highlighted how much we may both find Sonic Unleashed a game undeserving of its bashing and actually one of the best 3D games being phenomenal in many ways, hell it was the last game to incorporate proper physics in 3D! I just wish they could explore something like that again instead of all this.
@IndieLambda
5 жыл бұрын
I really like the old reviews, they might be long but, they're damn great. You can do multiparts for what you do next, it's your own choice but, the old ones needs to stay there.
@floatsyourgoats6200
5 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd see the day that Sega employees would slap together levels as forgettable as the empty enemy filled corridors of Sonic and the Black Knight, but it turns out they're just full of surprises.
@SonNguyen-mt8ix
5 жыл бұрын
Yo cooper you know what Month is now? It's sonic unleashed 10th years anniversary! I can't believe it!
@mastercreepy5893
5 жыл бұрын
And it's still the best looking Sonic game.
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
Son Nguyen Wrong by 13 days.
@LordNightmare47
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic Unleashed’s 10th years anniversary is in 2 days!
@konfapooch
5 жыл бұрын
Late by one day heck
@sophiabutler1707
4 жыл бұрын
The fact that Forces was a tie-in with Mania is one of the most shameless choices that SEGA has made.
@EmperorZ
5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts Story: .........ok......that happemed Gameplay: CaC is good, Modern Sonic is decent, FUCK CLASSIC SONIC IN THIS GAME!!! Soundtrack: Only like a few classic tracks, a few modern tracks, and a few CaC tracks Characters: Tails got downgraded to a bitch, WHY THE FUCK IS SILVER HERE, Classic Sonic was pointless and made it seem that plugging Sonic Mania into this game was what would help it(**SPOILER**, IT FUCKIN MADE IT WORSE), Knux is a general...WHY?, if The Resistance was anything like the Freedom Fighter it would get a pass, Sonic was shit in this game, is Eggman dead or nah, and Infinite is a good concept done POORLY. Level Design: LMFAO WTF HAPPENED, THIS GAME WAS IN PRODUCTION SINCE LOST WORLD😂😂😂!!! Final Boss: After the first attempt, he's a bitch. Boss fights in general: Fauder Getting all trophies: Easy with the exception of FUCKIN BEATING THE CLASSIC LEVELS WITHIN A GIVEN TIME!!! The Avatar: If they bring it back, please be like Xenoverse 2 and improve on the customization. Episode Shadow: Meh Super Sonic: SONIC TEAM CAN RUN MY FUCKIN FADE FOR EVEN THINKING OF MAKING THIS PAID DLC! MAKING IT FREE DOESN'T SAVE THEM, THIS SHIT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DLC IN THE FIRST FUCKIN PLACE. AT LEAST MAKE ADD IT IN AN UPDATE, NOT THIS. Final Verdict: I sold it back to Game Stop for a reason.
@ryaquaza3offical
5 жыл бұрын
One thing I will praise the game for is it’s level backgrounds and boss designs, the giant worm in the first level, those infinite creatures and egg robots are all really well designed for a background effect. And even if some of the bosses aren’t well integrated into gameplay they still look great, especially eggman’s final boss in its many forms, seriously when I saw eggman’s smaller robot ripped out of the larger bot’s chest my jaw dropped. I don’t like that giant snake bit tho, like seriously what even happened there? Oh and the memes that came from this game, those where great,. *toGETHER*
@porkermurns7590
5 жыл бұрын
Actually Classic Sonic does have a purpose 1. To save tails from chaos 2. So sonic can say ‘’it’s been generations since I’ve seen you.’’
@piceofbeef6522
5 жыл бұрын
*Same people that made generations and unleashed* Me:oh,man this games gonna be great Game:No
@WaterKirby1994
5 жыл бұрын
Colors & Generations, they never said Unleashed. Also Colors, Gens, & Lost Worlds was exactly what we got here. All the blocky 2D that Colors had, all the nostalgia baiting of Generations, then the appearance & story just as bad as Lost World (game) although to be fair Colors started the crap story trend. Let's not forget that we have Roger Craig Smith's unfitting Sonic voice & other poor VA choices that we've been stuck with this entire decade. Now if it said the Same Team that made Sonic Unleashed & Black Knight we would have expected the quality that went into those 4kids era games. Unfortunately you were expecting quality that didn't exist in any 2010s Decade Sonic game because none of the games of this era has been able to live upto Unleashed & Black Knight except for Mania which was made by officially hired fans.
@akeemtaylor8375
5 жыл бұрын
@@WaterKirby1994 unleashed had lots of flaws as well........ i think both colors and gens are better
@Chibiknux
5 жыл бұрын
They didnt make the hedgehog engine 2 as a better version of the first one. Actually the guy who made the hedgehog engine left Sega and went to square-enix years ago, so i think they can't use the original anymore. Most of the talented level designers who worked in unleashed now work at nintendo. If you felt MK8 tracks or Mario oddysey worlds were kinda sonic unleashed-ish well look up the credits of those games
@theboxman1294
5 жыл бұрын
4:44-4:47 Classic sonic: *TAILS,I DONT FEEL SO GOOD*
@jdudehl6079
5 жыл бұрын
I honestly like Sonic Forces. But it disappoints me that Sonic Team and Sega didn't put all their effort into this game. It feels like they got lazy and just decided to publish what they had. I felt like this game could have had high potential, but not enough effort was put in, I felt like they could've done better if they actually cared more about this game. Some reasons why I like the game: This is the first ever Sonic game to let you create your own character, The Modern Sonic/Avatar stages are pretty fun to me, I really had lots of fun with choosing different wispons for my avatar, also boost drillin' through the stages like a boss. Reasons why I was disappointed: The stages are WAAAAAY too short, Everytime I played a stage I also had to RESTART to keep playing it everytime I got to the end. I also think Modern Sonic's gameplay was a bit downgraded. They removed the drift, and I really miss him doing the wall jump. Classic Sonic doesn't even seem enjoyable to play in this game. Playing a classic sonic stage in this game is like a chore...Classic Sonic doesn't even feel as fast as he does in the classic games, Generations, and Mania. He just feels....so slow and stiff. We didn't even get a chaos fight either, OR a shadow fight. The music doesn't feel too much like Sonic music to my ears, it just feels so weird...boring and stale, Only music I do like out of this game are the music from Infinite's boss battles. The music from Enemy Territory in Episode Shadow, And the Inside version theme of Chemical Plant in the Modern Sonic stage. I think Infinite is a cool villain, but his origin is what makes me dislike him. He's so whiny and he got so mad after Shadow just simply kicked him, said an insult and just left. It also bugged me how Infinite's final boss is just a copy and paste from Metal Sonic's fight. Huff Hufff…..Over all, I think Sonic Forces was decent, but it could have been MUCH better if more effort was put into the game as I said before.
@WaterKirby1994
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic Team hasn't put effort into the series at all during the 2010s decade though. Look back to Colors & how blocky 2D that game was with crap story full of cringey jokes. Generations was short too, & let's not forget how bad Lost World (game) was. The 2010s have easily proven to be the worst decade of Sonic's career & not even Mania can make up for how badly the series was mistreated over the past 9 1/2 years.
@mrbanks456
5 жыл бұрын
Fist Bump really grew on me as time went on. I think it's the only thing I like about the game (and some of the ost).
@mrbanks456
5 жыл бұрын
@@londonjackson8986 I still can't stand classic Sonic. He only gets worse when he starts having auto scrolling levels.
@chelaviruela
5 жыл бұрын
Damn, your reviews are awesome, yesterday I didn’t sleep until, like, 3 am because I was watching some of them. You earned a sub.
@ceoofceos5219
5 жыл бұрын
I can't even be mad at this game....the fact that the developers who worked on colours and generations left during development is saddening enough. I don't think sonic team meant to lie during the commercials of forces at all when i really think about it. They just had to make do....
@user-vp9ry3km2c
5 жыл бұрын
Chaos would like to have a word with you, he was a trailer bait
@ceoofceos5219
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-vp9ry3km2c you do know chaos could have possibly appeared later, classic Sonic didn't kill it. Also why the hell would they make a chaos model and not use it? That pretty suspicious.
@user-vp9ry3km2c
5 жыл бұрын
@@ceoofceos5219 for a bait attempt? Chaos hyped alot of sonic fans
@ceoofceos5219
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-vp9ry3km2c honestly, if it was bait they wouldn't have put him in the game.
@thesonicsegakid
5 жыл бұрын
This is weird like 50% of the comments say - "Sonic Forces sucks!" 48% of the comments say - "Sonic Forces is okay" No wonder this game is on the yellow mark in terms of reception, it literally is a mixed bag. And I found some pretty good things that Forces did that other games didn't have which was pretty cool and there were some pretty bad things that this game had that other games achieved in as well which is a little disappointing, but oh well. Whatever you guys think of Forces, just don't shove your opinions down other people's throats when expressing your thoughts about it. If you like the game, then that's great, explain why, but don't be too aggressive about it. If you don't like the game that's great too, explain why, but don't be too aggressive about it. As from what I've heard, this fanbase is full of aggressive, opinionated and very cynical people, so do be careful about what you say, otherwise you'll trigger certain people online. Otherwise, neat video Coopercastille and I respect your opinion about what you think about Forces after a year of release.
@AppleSlipper
5 жыл бұрын
I do like Sonic Forces, despite its many flaws. But myself and some other Sonic fans get constantly abused by the Sonic fanbase for liking Sonic Forces. It really shows that the Sonic fanbase is a complete mess of a fanbase.
@e1iteyoshi998
5 жыл бұрын
@@AppleSlipper It's why i never took any opinions from Sonic fans good or bad seriously. It's why i went and got this game for myself to see if the haters were right or wrong and my results came as a mix of both.
@AppleSlipper
5 жыл бұрын
@@e1iteyoshi998 Exactly!
@connorplays6263
3 жыл бұрын
The phantom Ruby that the Avatar used was a copy made by Eggman That infinite dropped during his encounter with silver, The real phantom Ruby is in Eggman's giant mech
@Cmdrduo02us
5 жыл бұрын
why is tails useless? I'm a Tails fan and he should know how to dismantle those robots by now. Also I got the ps4 version of sonic forces for Christmas and I immediately traded it in for Smash Ultimate.
@sonicfind
5 жыл бұрын
To be fair let me clear up one thing that wasn't explained well at all in the game: The phantom ruby that Infinite was using, the one with a power source, was an artificial Ruby created by Eggman after researching and experimenting with the real one. I don't know what the fuck happened to Infinite at the end, but I do know that the last power source was destroyed meaning Eggman had to use the REAL Ruby - the one from Mania - in his machine. However, this brings another issue... how DAFUQ does the ruby then send itself and classic back to Mania for encore mode? If it was destroyed causing a rift, that would contradict encore mode in its entirety. If you remember from Mania, it was the chaos emeralds that caused the ruby to make the rift into Forces... but no where in Forces are the chaos emeralds mentioned - so the assumption is that they don't have them. SO WHAT HAPPENED?!?
@tigerpunk243
5 жыл бұрын
0:20 *I FEEL YA MAN* WE COULD BE BROTHERS YA KNOW
@viperdragon29
5 жыл бұрын
god... damnit... I wish they didn't fuck up with this game, it had so much potential and people were looking forward to it... just... absolute sad.
@Blueflag04
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic Forces - A bad game that calls out people that doesnt have friends
@setherfluous
5 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of making reviews multiple parts! That way you can cram all you want into them without making them too long.
@skeeterbaba1164
5 жыл бұрын
I just wish classic sonic wasn’t in this game because it just makes it feel less like a modern sonic game.
@Sonic3Knuckles
5 жыл бұрын
Skeeter Baba1 Hey! Look on the brightside! With mania plus, we could retcon his appearance. Just imagine classic sonic going to angel island instead of forces after egg reverie.
@skeeterbaba1164
5 жыл бұрын
Sonic 3 & knuckles yeah I really didn’t like mania being connected to forces because forces sucks and I don’t want to buy it and I just want sonic mania to not have to be involved in it.
@lonradb
5 жыл бұрын
Skeeter Baba1 So you don’t want Mania to be connected to Forces just because you didn’t like it? I didn’t like Forces either but the two games are connected and we can’t change that.
@skeeterbaba1164
5 жыл бұрын
lonradb but didn’t you say that mania plus retconed mania’s connection with forces.
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