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@Reset2150676
Жыл бұрын
so true
@zev2x762
Жыл бұрын
To anyone reading this, YOU ARE LOVED AND APPRECIATED!!!
@noaht2005
Жыл бұрын
you're joking
@theenderkirby
Жыл бұрын
Heya I need to tell you that on you comment section there a telegram bot who using your PFP and scamming people can you please block it from you comment section or tell people this scammer isn't from you?
@noaht2005
Жыл бұрын
@@theenderkirby it’s been happening a lot lately. Just report the account
@DanGamingFan2406
Жыл бұрын
This franchise has certainly had its ups and downs over the years. But no matter how disappointing some of these games are, Sonic the Hedgehog as a whole, will always be one of my favorite game franchises of all time. The vibrant, exciting levels, the epic stories, the soundtracks that absolutely slap, the cool 90's charm and heroic nature of Sonic himself, and of course the rush felt while rolling around at the speed of sound make this a series worth remembering and holding out hope that the next game will be better than the last.
@xgaming2427
Жыл бұрын
Well said my friend.
@marchedgie6838
Жыл бұрын
So true.
@FanaticChain
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@kyky778
Жыл бұрын
ok 👌
@monique6490
Жыл бұрын
If you mean Frontiers I have to say it was pretty great
@Raptorducki
7 ай бұрын
Sonic Adventure 2 is like the start of the New Testament
@lemonyanva1976
5 ай бұрын
It's funny because the OG sonic games were for the Genesis
@BranBal
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 @@lemonyanva1976
@wildberrysherbert3803
3 ай бұрын
Funny because Shadow has some elements to his character that are very clearly based on Jesus.
@Sammy-34079
2 ай бұрын
I LOVED MARVEL DC Transformers Sonic The Hedgheog.
@Sticky_sausage69
Ай бұрын
And Colors is like the start of the Book of Mormon. So like optional, but pretty interesting if you want to try it
@Sir_Epik
11 ай бұрын
boy. i thought it was just a blue hedgehog running around beating up robots, boy was i wrong
@Germani924
2 ай бұрын
Same here back when I was 8 years old I thought that it was just a blue hedgehog running and going around beating up robots but I was wrong so both of us were wrong
@TwiliPaladin
7 ай бұрын
46:01 Nah, that one's incredibly simple. G.U.N. needed to keep Shadow's existence a secret in spite of his crimes, so Sonic became a convenient scapegoat.
@SazawaArt
Жыл бұрын
I will never get over Omega’s violence towards Eggman, something about his bluntness is so funny to me. Team dark is so fun
@solidskullz5736
Жыл бұрын
I love this series, been playing it since I was a little kid. The speed, the fun characters, the colorful and interesting levels, and the story. Even with all the rough patches throughout the years I can never bring myself to separate from sonic
@codex8678
Жыл бұрын
soo true me to my man
@w1-em4nq
5 ай бұрын
close for me, but am always hesistant aftee 06, took years to regain my trust
@SuspiciousScout
5 ай бұрын
I've loved the Sonic games for as long as I can remember, but man, when Forces came out in 2017 and it was the biggest pile of wasted potential ive ever seen... That would've been the last straw if frontiers didn't turn out as well as it did.
@mr__switch1825
Жыл бұрын
What I think is worth mentioning is that in the japanese version of TSR, Sonic mentions to Silver in a pre-race intro, that Silver has lost his fighting spirit and how when they first met, he always said stuff like "I'll destroy you" and stuff akin to that. Silver saying he doesn't remember said things happening. This confirming that Sonic is probably the only character who remembers the events of 06. Or at least the ones he expirienced
@LucasHopkins2006
Жыл бұрын
I think Izuka also said he thinks Shadow remembers those events as well which I’m on board with, I would’ve liked Silver to also be hinted at remembering it so Team Triple S all remember their game
@MegaMet98
Жыл бұрын
Knowing Sonic & (possibly) Shadow know what unfolded in 06. Silver would have a hard time remembering his story in 06 as he's now a clean slate, besides the familiar feeling he had with Blaze the Cat. I'm okay with the event of the game being exclusive to specific characters or exclusive to Sonic.
@mr__switch1825
Жыл бұрын
@@MegaMet98 I'm pretty sure Sonic is the only one who remembers We already knew that in 06 funnily enough We haven't got confirmation for Shadow in the games And Silver just outright doesn't remember He only has a familiar feeling with Blaze
@MegaMet98
Жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 had almost nothing to do with Sonic, J said it himself that 06 was about Shadow, Silver & Princess Elise. How Sonic was still able to retain the memories of 06 after history gets reset is anything beyond me.
@mr__switch1825
Жыл бұрын
I mean, I didn't make the story I just know it is like that He probably remembers bcs well, he is the mc after all and has plot armour and also bcs he was with Elise when she blew out the flame. Tho why he remembers and she doesn't I can't tell you
@iiTsFaded_
Жыл бұрын
Dude, this is easily your best work. Props to you!
@CozyRomani
Жыл бұрын
Literally💯 bro work ethic is diff❗️
@mr.redacted767
Жыл бұрын
It’s literally just a compilation of prior videos lol
@ElectrikStatik900
Жыл бұрын
@@mr.redacted767 He means all of those videos 😐
@keratinh
Жыл бұрын
holy shit, i wish i had this when i was first getting into the series!! this is so well explained, thanks so much for this
@asocos
Жыл бұрын
Fix your grammar
@asocos
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelg4981 I fixed it, now fix your grammar
@Kiezly
Жыл бұрын
i would love to see a new sonic anime similar to sonic X, that takes your complete timeline and tells the whole story of sonic thru dozens if not hundreds of episodes. with official ports/remasters of the games coming out in tandem with the episodes / seasons of said anime. so many possibilities and potential.
@ddsbo
Жыл бұрын
that would be amazing.
@PhantomCitadel
Жыл бұрын
@@ddsbo Amazing… but expensive and highly unlikely.
@Blanktester685
Жыл бұрын
Dozens? There are endless possibilities.
@ILikeSoda229
Жыл бұрын
Hey that’d be cool. The first episode would start with Classic Sonic and Sonic 1, and the the ending would probably just be a set up to another Sonic game coming out at the time.
@rank0011
Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how sonic is so established but feels like it’s never tapped into its full potential , I’ve play all of these and I still feel like I haven’t gone through a solid journey with sonic, I feel satisfied with Mario, Goku, Link, Sora , Rachet, but still not sonic and he’s the best character lol they need the edge again just done with higher quality and depth.
@heroessquad2019
Жыл бұрын
According to Ian Flynn (if I remember correctly), for games that had both a console and handheld release, the console releases are considered canon. Meaning, handheld counterparts aren't canon, with the exception of Colors.
@HOWLWOLF
Жыл бұрын
How does that even make sense if Colors DS contradicts a lot of Colors Wii
@heroessquad2019
Жыл бұрын
@@HOWLWOLF Charmy Bee in Generations.
@patrickdixon7202
Жыл бұрын
Sonic Colours DS is not canon.
@BigteenGoingOff2
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickdixon7202it has hella information about the side characters. I would rather that game be canon. Plus, super sonic boss fight.
@patrickdixon7202
Жыл бұрын
@@BigteenGoingOff2 Still not canon.
@FaithJman69
Жыл бұрын
The fact that this amazing video is only a month long really shows the research and dedication . You rule dude! I love this video so much.
@gaminganimators7000
Жыл бұрын
That month went fast, felt like 2 hours
@angeihd
Жыл бұрын
The recasting after SABK was honestly MY most impactful moment in the timeline.
@crimsonstormsurge
Жыл бұрын
I never knew how much other characters used too impact the story I really want the series to do this again
@jacketoff_f
Жыл бұрын
I never actually thought about sonic 06 restarting the timeline (or making an alternate one), it makes sense now why blaze returns after sacrificing herself.
@PikachuGamerSMT
Жыл бұрын
For the "Canonicity" of Sticks in the main canon (look at Sonic Runners) all it says is "She's a friend of Amy" and that's it (and also Rio 2016)
@patrickdixon7202
Жыл бұрын
Sticks will never be canon.
@patrickdixon7202
Жыл бұрын
@@errorstudioz 🤡
@connorbeith3232
Жыл бұрын
I don't think Runners is cannon considering it has characters that shouldn't have been able to return, and the cast not recognizing said characters. Though I wonder how long Sticks has known Amy in the main cannon, or where she was during some of it's major events. I feel like Amy would have met Sticks sometime after Forces or TSR since she's not seen or mentioned in any cannon game prior to Frontiers.
@patrickdixon7202
Жыл бұрын
@@connorbeith3232 Please stop trying.
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickdixon7202How about you Let People Enjoy Things
@LucasHopkins2006
Жыл бұрын
I think another thing working with the Riders games in canonicity is the fact that with Frontiers confirming Tangle and in the process the IDW comics (which take place after Forces) are canon to the main universe and in the final stretch of the Metal Virus arc in the IDW comics Amy called in the Babylon Rogues to help the heroes get the Chaos Emeralds so Sonic and Silver could go Super to cure Sonic and the world so Riders and Zero Gravity (preferably not Free Riders though cause frick that game) have to be canon and take place at least before Forces so that can happen, not like futuristic places like that aren’t weird to suddenly see after Metropolis in Forces
@MoCa1979Jr
Жыл бұрын
Robotnik also makes more sense as a name, consider the doctor's minions are called "BadNIKS".
@autobotproductions1244
7 ай бұрын
Technically the name Badniks was also a US invention but I prefer the name. Gives them some personality
@MoCa1979Jr
7 ай бұрын
@@autobotproductions1244 Interesting; I figured as much. I just like how BadNIKS sound like they belong to RobotNIK. Kind of like how "The Koopas" sound like they belong to "King Koopa" (who unfortunately goes by "Bowser" now in the US market).
@demonicbunny3po
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I am only 8:49 into this and you are helping me. I’ve been ‘convinced’ to do some Sonic fanfic and needed a crash course in Sonic Lore. Just the detail of Eggman being a nickname adopted out of spite is huge for me. Can’t wait to watch more of this to actually get an idea of what I’m going to do for the story.
@Miju001
10 ай бұрын
I'm curious about any updates on this
@PowerHayakawa420
Жыл бұрын
Watching through this entire thing made me very emotional, thank you for taking the time out of your life to make this kind of video
@SlashCraftJack
Жыл бұрын
Its noteworthy that Sonic X gives explanations for all the plot holes mentioned in Sonic Adventure 2. While not 100% canon, you could argue certain aspects as being retcons. For instance, A section of GUN was trying to cover up the incident regarding Project Shadow, & intentionally made Sonic the scapegoat for Shadow's crimes in order to continue the cover-up. As for Rouge & the Master Emerald, her Emerald radar found it while looking for the Chaos Emeralds.
@bellarosa_
11 ай бұрын
There's also the fact that Sonic X was the first instance of Shadow having Inhibitor Rings, which was then used for the ending of Shadow's story in Sonic 06.
@PrincessLunafan21
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, honestly I never noticed how many plot holes the series has. It was still cool to see the timeline and this explained a few things that I was confused about.
@DillerwithI
Жыл бұрын
it is very good that you came back and changed things and not just slapped 3 videos on together and also made it look like 1 video and not 3 video back to back. you put a lot of effort into this keep up the hard work!
@harrytaylorjr2770
Жыл бұрын
For me Sonic the Hedgehog is one of the greatest video games ever created. I cant imagine my life now if Sonic never existed. I am a Sonic fan 4 life and that's WAY PAST COOL!!!👍👍👍
@collinwasnthere
3 ай бұрын
with an update now, its been confirmed classic sonic is modern sonic, just younger, and mighty and ray are canon in modern sonics view from tailstube
@JsReviews
3 ай бұрын
My recommendation is, anytime they "confirm" anything, take it with a supreme grain of salt. Mania and Forces "confirmed" that Classic Sonic was a different character from another dimension. With interviews backing up that there was a human world and an anthro world. Now Mania and Forces are being directly contradicted with this new status quo. As stated in the video, it is purely how I make sense of the Sonic universe, because the things they say don't add up.
@faz10do
3 ай бұрын
@@JsReviewsso superstars can be after mania plus right?
@faz10do
3 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure the guy who said that said that all of the characters had dementia
@Sammy-34079
2 ай бұрын
I LOVED MARVEL DC Transformers Sonic The Hedgheog.
@Boop__Doop
8 ай бұрын
Everything means EVERYTHING Including fanart
@SethAshcraft
7 ай бұрын
run.
@Skypatroller_BenCD
4 ай бұрын
No it's mainly game
@MultiMaya2002
9 ай бұрын
this video made me smile alot. Both as one of those fans who, as you mentioned, cares more about the characters and the world they live in than the gameplay itself - but also just....you know..as a fan of the series it was awesome to see such a video video decicated to sonic and the story it tells. To be honest I even took some notes and saved the final timeline image to help for my own sonic works and possibly making my own "headcannon" for the timeline of events! Sonic will always be a huge part of my life and I'm beyond happy that nowadays more people seem to be willing to show their love for sonic, unlike when I was a kid and it was just....the lame thing to be into. I love this series and this video was an awesome tribute to the entire series so far. Awesome job!
@silvershock2353
Жыл бұрын
I have a question to all fans, if another time ending event like the end of 06 was to happen would Eraser Djinn be set free, after all Sonic's wish was "My third wish. Eraser Djinn! You Shall live out the rest of time, trapped in your lamp as you where in days of old", knowing how these things work in other media wishes stick close to what is said. So if a timeline shatter was to happen again then he should be free right?
@SkydreamPony
Жыл бұрын
In fairness to Sega, with regards to the Sonic 3 release before the game was "finished" (that is, with the &K part), it isn't as simple as "never mind, do the Happy Meal toys later". Deals like that always come with lengthy contracts and all sorts of terms that mean Sega's hands were tied before they realised S3&K wouldn't be done in time. It's not that their priority was "yay Happy Meal toys!". It was contractual obligation and not being sued by McDonald's for breach of contract.
@GavinArtster
7 ай бұрын
48:48 *”TAILS!!! YOU MOTHAFU-“* -not sonic 2001
@Sammy-34079
2 ай бұрын
I LOVED MARVEL DC Transformers Sonic The Hedgheog.
@black.sasuke.uchiha
Жыл бұрын
36:36 I already knew that “chaos” could also be pronounced as “more than one chao” but I never knew that it was an evolved form, that makes the word play even neater!
@Lando-kx6so
Жыл бұрын
Sonic adventure 2 sold over 1 million copies on Dreamcast, I wouldn't say it sold poorly for the time period
@Nyaalexi
Ай бұрын
Little do people know that Labyrinth Act 4 (a.k.a. Scrap Brain 3) from Sonic 1 is actually extremely easy. There's a shortcut at the very start of the level that, if you stay on the upper path, skips basically the whole level. The more you know. Unleashed does have the most high-quality opening of any Sonic game, and that game is my favorite of all time (The HD version, obviously). I, too, have wasted a lot of my breath on this hedgehog, believe me. And I'm not gonna stop any time soon.
@jamesbevan4479
Жыл бұрын
I'm what you call an elder Sega fan, I was a kid when the master system was new. So I've witnessed Sonic's lovely, if slightly inconsistent, game releases unfold over the decades. The fact that you J decided to tackle this bonkers timeline and actually made it make sense... I salute you 🫡
@yumi4804
Жыл бұрын
I watched this whole video and I agree with all of it! As a sonic fan I can agree that it’s all messy but I feel like it’s something less to worry about but it’s also confusing..Especially sonics age
@patrickdixon7202
Жыл бұрын
You agree with bad research.
@DaHman1112
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for clarifying that. 06 is not a reboot. Every time somebody says 06 is just a reboot. It makes me really upset because it is canon and it explains a lot of the stuff that happened in that game. I love your stuff you got me into sonic.
@skeetermania3202
4 ай бұрын
Thing is, because of how self-contained 06’s story is, one could sort of get away with calling it a reboot.
@jesuscamou602
Жыл бұрын
sonic adventure games still look good to this day
@Lucian1012
Жыл бұрын
Idk if you already knew this, but, Vector actually calls Eggman a bastard in the japanese version of the game
@DaHman1112
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for everything J you got me into this series. Sure I was a little bit of a sonic fan before you. I’ve played generations and forces and mania but I felt like it was just that thing that I would get into a little and then immediately stop like a month later and that’s what happened but when I found you a sonic generations video and your whole retrospective it made me realize just how good some parts of this series is to be honest I’m not the biggest fan of sonic adventure one, but I still love that game because of the ambition you got me into sonic and I am incredibly grateful. Thanks for everything J
@AndrewWorthy
Жыл бұрын
Despite the Haters and a few misses here and there….. Sonic has NEVER NOT been cool. Since His debut, He’s always been a total Badass…. And Honestly speaking, in order to rival Mario, He’d HAVE to be…..These are just the facts! 🤷🏾♂️💯💯💯
@czms922
Жыл бұрын
I think the reason why silver sonic was in sonic 2 even though CD is before 2 is because silver sonic is supposed to be a prototype of mecha sonic
@TheMrproblem1234
9 ай бұрын
We can also connect all timelines by saying that the Chaos Emeralds distort the fabric of realities , those who come into contact with them also have their realities distorted.
@ChrisThe1
7 ай бұрын
If i remember correctly the gaia cycle in unleashed happens every few million years, so since the ancients are described to have arrived 10k years ago I think it‘s more likely that the emeralds were taken from „earth“ after the last gaia cycle and then somehow got to the ancients before they returned them to „earth“.
@mee_is_sus
7 ай бұрын
Mario lore: Bowser kidnapped the princess, I have to save her. Sonic lore:
@SaddieMoon
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Japanese manual for Sonic 1 states that Sonic and Eggman had already met before the events of the game.
@Rexy_THE_T-REX
Жыл бұрын
Probaly robotnik as ovi kintobor
@SaddieMoon
Жыл бұрын
@@Rexy_THE_T-REX No, that all American cannon.
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733
Жыл бұрын
@@Rexy_THE_T-REXAmerican backstory doesn't count
@gundambassexe31
Жыл бұрын
You had me at sonic timeline
@gameomer1855
10 ай бұрын
Did anybody notice that he just put a FAN REMAKE in his TIMELINE of official Sonic games When he puts Sonic Triple Trouble in the timeline he replaces it with the fan remake made by Noah Copeland because in the original Knuckles is tricked by Eggman again into thinking Sonic wants the chaos emeralds for world domination but in the remake Metal Sonic (unexplainably) takes on the form of Knuckles to destroy Sonic and now Knuckles is off to stop Metal Sonic and collect the chaos emeralds (as told in the prequel fan comic despite not being able to collect them in gameplay) he scattered across south island (the game's setting) and this game retcons Knuckles' story in Sonic & Knuckles
@Catgamer7YT
Жыл бұрын
Recently its been comfirmed in the comics written by Ian Flynn that tails sky patrol came before tails met sonic
@HellhumperE7ZJ
Жыл бұрын
2:10:00 My head canon says toss out the "dimension" change in Forces, it's a rearranged past, and all classic Sonic adventures after Genrations are this Classic Sonic and at 2:17:00, my theory is that the phantom ruby ends up there after mania portals it and Classic Sonic away
@HyperManSP
Жыл бұрын
I would disregard so many of the games that you included, but like you said at the beginning, it's pretty much up to the fans to make sense of the sonic timeline so the fact that you did include some games I wouldn't have is fine. A lot of things I would have just explained away as easter eggs or cameo appearances, and thus not really canon to the main lore, even though the game those appearances are in IS canon. I appreciate your dedication to trying to fit them all in though, seems like something I would do for other fandoms, but ironically not sonic's lore... I don't know why. Also, wanted to say that 06's plot is criminally underrated. Your summary of it reminded me of how good it was if you ignore the cringe romance between sonic and elise. It's a shame it was such a bad game. And the redesign for Eggman... oof... glad that didn't stick.
@AdamSelvig
Жыл бұрын
Ironically team darks team blast leaves a continuity issue because shadow has the green emerald at the very beginning
@AsecasJavi
Жыл бұрын
Could be a replica
@AdamSelvig
Жыл бұрын
@@AsecasJavi it couldn’t be a replica fake emeralds only been utilized once in the games and SA2 did that but how would shadow be able to obtain one when he was stasis again
@AsecasJavi
Жыл бұрын
@@AdamSelvig omega has it
@AdamSelvig
Жыл бұрын
@@AsecasJavi explain how omega had it when it’s never been mentioned or shown on screen
@AsecasJavi
Жыл бұрын
@@AdamSelvig watch the robotummy and how shadow literally picks it from there in the team mlast
@completeownage379
Жыл бұрын
My head canon on the silver/mecha/metal sonic conundrum is that metal sonic only appears in CD due to Eggman's time travel shenanigans. After he is destroyed in that game Eggman makes attempts at recreating this machine from the future by creating silver sonic, then mecha sonic before finally recreating the same metal sonic he saw back in CD
@robertlupa8273
Жыл бұрын
So there are actually two Metal Sonics?
@paigemorris6078
9 ай бұрын
This needs far more recognition!!! Thanks a bundle
@LorenzoDoesntExist
25 күн бұрын
CORRECTIONS: -You did add a note that 8-bit Mecha Sonic is less advanced than Metal Sonic, so 8-bit Sonic 2 should be moved before CD. -The manuals of Sonic Chaos states that they're _returning_ to South Island. They'd return to South Island in many games also featuring less than seven emeralds, so that's not a good reason to put it there. -You put SegaSonic after Knuckles' Chaotix without explanation. It introduces mighty ahead of Chaotix. -You can put Pocket Adventure right before Advance because it adds to the progression from Classic to Adventure Sonic. He gains green eyes and Eggman gains his modern jacket in that game. -You put Advance 2 before SA1 just because Amy's unlockable? Cream is shown flying around in SADX with no knowledge of the main cast and meets them for the first time in Advance 2, not to mention Amy doesn't appear to have seen ZERO before in SA1, so Advance 2 just goes where it came out. -Despite being faster than a board, Sonic has ridden boards in many games just because he feels like it. You left out the Riders series because his character model was already wearing goggles before the race... What? Its characters are playable in many of the other games you mentioned, and Eggman is trying to build a bigger Eggmanland than ever, which is complete by Unleashed. -You put Secret Rings before Rivals without explanation. Release order is taken as chronological unless given concrete reasons why not. -People have tried to place Sonic 4 in the Classic era, but Episode Metal literally says, "A long time has passed." There's no good reason to not use the release order other than Metal Sonic still being in Stardust Speedway, but that doesn't make in either the Classic or Modern eras since he returns multiple times in _both._ It was just a rushjob made by staff who don't really know these games well. -Flynn did mention that Tails Adventures takes place after Sonic 2, but a lot of his conclusions are based on early US media/manuals, so I agree with you on the Japanese placement of it.
@zigslotheon
5 ай бұрын
Admitting the existence of Shadow instead of declaring him to just be Sonic with a disguise would probably cause people to look into what happened with the Ark and bam! Suddenly the whole of Station Square wants GUN hung and quartered! Also they probably were in on the plan with Rouge but it involved having to keep up appearances by still actually trying to stop her so Eggman and Shadow didn’t get completely suspicious of her.
@Sammy-34079
2 ай бұрын
I LOVED MARVEL DC Transformers Sonic The Hedgheog.
@JARABURNS
Жыл бұрын
The Breakdown you gave us of all of Sonic 06 was Perfection.
@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ld
Ай бұрын
hands down best story in the whole franchise
@CozyRomani
Жыл бұрын
Your work ethic is much appreciated 🔥💯
@KnightoftheWind7
8 ай бұрын
Great video, is it just me, or is it rare to find someone speak about Sonic so passionately, especially the stories, and the head cannon, both things I love. Thank you for the video!
@ShaneStapler
Жыл бұрын
1:36:26 just watched your sonic 06 video and im glad someone else appreciates this moment so much
@Spacehero5000
10 ай бұрын
Ummm actually SegaSonic The Hedgehog is before sonic 1. ☝️🤓. No but this video has so much research and editing put into it, great work.
@J4WSH1E
Жыл бұрын
In frontiers Sonic mentions Tangle from IDW could this mean the zombot virus is canon?
@ozby11
Жыл бұрын
Seems like all of idw is canon
@Hatesman
6 ай бұрын
12:46 who tf doesn't know how Super Saiyan works💀
@Sammy-34079
2 ай бұрын
I LOVED MARVEL DC Transformers Sonic The Hedgheog.
@Ponch126
10 ай бұрын
51:26 correct me if I’m wrong, but I think one of the scenes in Frontiers actually does canonize the fan theory. Both Knuckles and Sonic state how similar the Ares Island is to Angel Island (that’s somehow besides the fact that they both share the same first letter) and that in the audio logs from Eggman, he goes over how Gerald’s past must have one point brought him to Angel Island, without the knowledge of Knuckles or any of its inhabitants. It would make sense considering the shrine at the end of SA2 is quite literally built after the shrine on Angel Island, both housing a specific purpose to hone the Master Emerald’s energy
@wildberrysherbert3803
Жыл бұрын
I thought about this randomly but thought it was worth discussing: What if Sonic 4 took place after Heroes? My idea for how this would work is that after CD, Eggman would rebuild Metal Sonic and that would be the one encountered in Triple Trouble, Sonic the Fighters, and Heroes, after Heroes Eggman would consider the rebuilt Metal Sonic not to be trusted anymore. And use him for spare parts (mainly repairing the old Metal Sonic), leading into Sonic 4 Ep2 (and, ONLY Ep2, because when you think about it Ep2 doesn't need Ep1 to make sense.) As for Stardust Speedway being in it's Bad Future state, Sonic may have just not collected any of the Time Stones, thus Eggman would use them. Or we could just... ignore that.
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733
Жыл бұрын
I still hold that Metal Sonic is just a roboticized Sonic from the bad future. It explains his inferiority complex and the whole "future technology" element explains why he's more advanced than the other robot Sonics.
@wickle.
Жыл бұрын
Also the finalized timeline isn’t on your twitter or community tab, would really like to take a gander at it
@theenderkirby
Жыл бұрын
Thanks you J really needed it for easier time to watch mutiple vids at once ^^
@lesgarsgame1941
Жыл бұрын
Sonic The Hedgehog: The Complete Timeline [The Classic Era] Tails Adventure *(1995)* 23:35 Sonic The Hedgehog 16-Bit Sega Genesis *(1991)* 6:34 Sonic The Hedgehog 8-Bit Sega Master System *(1991)* 8:56 Sonic CD *(1993)* 15:07 Sonic The Hedgehog 2 8-Bit Sega Master System *(1992)* 9:35 Sonic Chaos *(1993)* 11:16 "Sonic Generations Xbox 360 *(2011)* 2:07:47" Sonic The Hedgehog 2 16-Bit Sega Genesis *(1992)* 11:58 Sonic The Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles *(1994)* 17:54 Sonic Triple Trouble 16-Bit Remake *(2022)* 20:45 Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine *(1993)* "Same For Sonic Spinball Timestamp" Sonic Spinball *(1993)* 14:49 Knuckles' Chaotix *(1995)* 2:10:40 Tails’ Skypatrol *(1995)* 24:27 Sonic Labyrinth *(1995)* 24:50 SegaSonic The Hedgehog *(1993)* 2:11:42 Sonic The Fighters *(1996)* 2:12:18 Sonic 3D In 2D/ Sonic 3D Blast 16-Bit Remake *(2020)* 25:43 Sonic Blast *(1996)* 27:07 Sonic R *(1997)* 28:31 Sonic Mania *(2017)* 2:13:47 "Sonic Forces *(2017)* 2:18:01" Sonic Mania Encore Mode *(2018)* 2:19:27 Sonic Superstars *(2023)* Didn't Show It Sonic And The Fallen Star *(2022)* Didn't Show It [The Adventure Era] Sonic Pocket Adventure *(1999)* 38:46 Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 *(2010)* 1:58:26 Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode Metal *(2010)* "Same For Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 Timestamp" Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 2 *(2012)* "Same For Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 Timestamp" Sonic Advance *(2001)* 56:47 Sonic Advance 2 *(2002)* 59:23 Sonic Adventure *(1998)* 29:21 Sonic Shuffle *(2000)* 39:38 Sonic Adventure 2 *(2001)* 40:33 Sonic Heroes *(2003)* 1:01:32 Shadow The Hedgehog *(2005)* 1:10:51 Sonic Battle *(2003)* 1:18:43 Sonic Advance 3 *(2004)* 1:22:36 Sonic The Hedgehog *(2006)* 1:27:00 Sonic Rush *(2005)* 1:42:26 Sonic Riders *(2006)* 1:24:05 Sonic Rush Adventure *(2007)* 1:43:30 Sonic And The Secret Rings *(2007)* 1:44:14 Sonic Rivals *(2006)* 1:46:40 Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity *(2008)* "Same For Sonic Riders Timestamp" Sonic Rivals 2 *(2007)* 1:49:04 [The Modern Era] Sonic Unleashed Xbox 360 *(2008)* 1:50:42 Sonic And The Black Knight *(2009)* 1:56:10 Sonic Free Riders *(2010)* "Same For Sonic Riders Timestamp" Sonic Colors DS *(2010)* 2:00:47 Sonic Generations Xbox 360 *(2011)* 2:06:06 Sonic Lost World Wii U *(2013)* 2:15:13 Sonic Forces *(2017)* 2:16:45 Team Sonic Racing *(2019)* 2:20:08 Sonic Frontiers *(2022)* 2:21:00 Sonic Dream Team *(2023)* Didn't Show It
@Shadowguyxx
2 күн бұрын
Yeah it going to be a super long of Sonic lore
@battydude
Жыл бұрын
I used to be into Sonic as a kid. I lost interest in it due to some of the games having iffy plots with holes in them and a toxic fan base. But now as an adult, I have a new appreciation for the series in that it is the unique product of multiple writers adding lore and iterations to the story. It isn't always cohesive, but there are definitely some interesting sci-fi and even mythological concepts in the series that makes it fun to dissect.
@tr3ycr0w
Жыл бұрын
I really thought I was the only person to have so much trouble with Big's Sonic Adventure Story... 😂
@leathmccaffrey1532
7 ай бұрын
45:37 It's my personal belief that until Sonic Colors, everyone is color blind.
@cookx84
Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid to say this video has gone from a 10/10 to a 9.9/10 Didn't even mention Sonic's Schoolhouse x)
@BlueRødentt
Жыл бұрын
14:37 i feel that the endings should have been mashed up sonic gets saved by tails and then he goes super and sonic 3 starts
@robertwhite3181
12 күн бұрын
I may have mentioned this if I've seen this before in it's' original but S3&K together in this version is not the canon it was supposed to be, this is shown in the level select screen for where Flying Battery is placed as when it was planned to be 1 full game, this is where it would originally go for the transfer back from night to day, plus the door a the end was originally going to be used as the Icecap snowboard, plus I heard the release had nothing to do with the McDonalds promotion, it was due to time & development costs, however a way to play the game does exist known as Sonic 3 Complete if anyone is interested, I have no complaints with the timeline so far with what I've seen but I felt I had to mention this
@thejaztracy
8 ай бұрын
I think Nega being from Silver’s Future is pretty neat cause it gives us a decent explanation for how Silver and Blaze know eachother. Of they both share the same nemesis it isnt out of the question they might meet while fighting him
@redhot10-u2f
Жыл бұрын
12:53 yeah they grant wishes. Super sayian occurs when powering up and being anger from something emotional happening.
@spothead1936
Жыл бұрын
I saw a Notification of your friend Jeb playing SSBU. 😂 😂 😂 🤣 😂 😂 😂
@vinceniederman
Жыл бұрын
@JsReviews I Like Your Review of Sonic The Hedgehog Each by Game and Year!
@Clone_03
Жыл бұрын
Next up in the neo classic timeline sonic superstars 🎉🎉🎉
@Jade_Geode
9 күн бұрын
Can’t help but notice that he never acknowledged Sonic Origins’ story mode, which directly links Sonic 1, CD, 2 and 3&K in that order with no other games in between
@AwakenedLights
2 ай бұрын
It appears as if your split timeline called the "Neo timeline" was correct. All games happen as they should until adventure, in which adventure doesnt happen in that one. Ian Flynn confirmed this Neo classic timeline by saying that the END is still sealed in cyberspace so it does exist, as well as Chaos still being sealed inside the master emerald, iblis and Mephiles, and practically every other enemy or event that wasn't dealt with. Meaning the Neo Classic can in fact evolve into a rebooted modern Sonic timeline as ALL of their biggest bads through the series are RIGHT THERE.
@Cel684
Жыл бұрын
I dunno I think something else made SA2 explode in popularity, I think it was something about Eggman missing his wife and urinating on the moon
@autobotproductions1244
Жыл бұрын
No that has nothing to do with it
@Cel684
Жыл бұрын
@@autobotproductions1244 yeah i'm hallucinating
@cloroxbleach8808
Жыл бұрын
Right?? All i recall is that Eggman had an announcement to make!
@Cel684
Жыл бұрын
@@cloroxbleach8808 who knows, maybe that’s why it’s remembered so well
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733
Жыл бұрын
False. Sonic Adventure 2 was an extraordinarily popular game even long before Snapcube made their mark. Do your research you Gen. Alpha scum.
@PugO.
11 ай бұрын
Classic Chaotix is confirmed canon with the recent Tailstube video
@Gamma_TM
Жыл бұрын
Sonic Adventure 2 has a chaos story 😂
@PedroCalderoni
7 ай бұрын
i know this came before tailstube and sonic superstars, but i think its worth mentioning, since tailstube actually confirmed the classic sonic is modern sonic from the past. correct me if im wrong. so i made a new sonic timeline of all games, i changed very little of it, mostly on the classic era, while the modern is still very intact, also including sonic superstars which wasnt brought up on the video. since sonic superstar, is claimed to happen right before sonic adventure, i got a bit confused where to put sonic advance 1 and 2, but since the evidence clearly show that sonic's tornado is still the same one that appears in sonic adventure, before it was broken on the same game, sonic advance 1 and 2 indeed have to happen in between sonic supertars and sonic adventure, so i did not change anything on that part. here is the list! Classic Era: Tails Adventure Sonic The Hedgehog (1991) Sonic The Hedgehog 2 16-Bits Sonic Chaos Sonic CD Sonic Generations (Classic Sonic) Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Sonic The Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles Sonic The Hedgehog: Triple Trouble Knuckles' Chaotix Tails Skypatrol Sonic Labyrinth SegaSonic The Hedgehog Sonic The Fighters Sonic 3D Blast Sonic Blast Sonic R Sonic Mania Sonic Forces (Classic Sonic) Sonic Superstars Modern Era: Sonic Advance Sonic Advance 2 Sonic Adventure Sonic Shuffle Sonic Adventure 2 Sonic Heroes Shadow The Hedgehog Sonic Battle Sonic Advance 3 Sonic The Hedgehog (2006) Sonic Rush Sonic Riders Sonic Rush Adventures Sonic & The Secret Rings Sonic Rivals Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity Sonic Rivals 2 Sonic Unleashed Sonic & The Black Knight Sonic Free Riders Sonic Colors Sonic Generations (Modern Sonic) Sonic Lost World Sonic Forces (Modern Sonic) Team Sonic Racing Sonic Frontiers
@crimsonslayer6641
Жыл бұрын
J, what do you think about the IDW sonic comics? I personally love the comics and they did a better job on character and story writing, something forces didn’t do too well
@themissingbits6375
Жыл бұрын
He Said in the Frontiers video that he has not read Them, Though he has heard somethings about Them. He is likely gonna talk about IDW Sonic in the future… But you Can just go to Little Planet and go to the Future Then you Can Watch the videos, So yeah i know his opinions on these medias because i have been in the future, Im on the planet right now, and there is a future sign close to me, SEE YA!… Im kidding, Of course
@crimsonslayer6641
Жыл бұрын
@@themissingbits6375 Ok, it’s been a while since I’ve seen the video on frontiers.
@jensrose3359
Жыл бұрын
You know, how there’s a timeline split in generations that makes the classic games a different timeline but they still kind of happened in the past for a modern sonic. I feel like that applies for sonic Rush and sonic 06 for the future. Like my head canon is that the sol dimension is the future of timeline B. So after the candles blown out at the end of sonic 2006 the future splits into the sol dimension. But that’s just a theory a sonic theory.
@FrostGlader
2 ай бұрын
I personally headcanon that Zavok actually appears in Forces, and that his bossfight wasn’t a Phantom Ruby Illusion. This would explain why he speaks directly to Sonic, and is the literal only one of the Illusion Characters to do so. His motive is revenge. Think of it this way: why would Eggman keep Sonic Locked up in the Death Egg for over a month if he intended to kill him anyway, and he’s not even there to see it happen, something he would WANT to view? Given the Zeti are aware of the process to produce Badniks, I suspect the Giant Buzz Bomber that’s present in his fight was built by him, and that’s what he used to get up to the Death Egg. After the fight, he lands on an actual Phantom Ruby illusion of himself by pure chance, and before Sonic can finish him off, runs off and hides. Sonic assumes he beat Zavok when he sees the Phantom fade away, and escapes the Death Egg. Zavok returns home on his Buzz Bomber, his planned revenge on Sonic for what happened in Lost World having failed. He effectively succeeded in getting revenge on Eggman by freeing Sonic though, but he never finds this out.
@andrewclark3330
Жыл бұрын
so now that Classic Sonic is confirmed to be canon to the games again on top of Sonic Prime being confirmed as canon to the games. the timeline presented here is now this Tails Adventure Sonic 1 Sonic CD Sonic 2 Gamegear Sonic Chaos Sonic 2 Sonic 3 And Knuckles (Sonic's Story) Sonic Triple Trouble Sonic 3 And Knuckles (Knuckles Story) Knuckles Chaotix Sonic Labyrinth And Tails Skypatrol Segasonic The Hedgehog Sonic The Fighters Sonic 3d Blast Sonic Blast Sonic R Sonic Mania Sonic Mania Plus Encore Mode or Sonic Mania Adventures Sonic Advance Sonic Advance 2 Sonic Adventure Sonic Shuffle Sonic Adventure 2 Sonic Heroes Shadow The Hedgehog Sonic Battle Sonic Advance 3 Sonic 06 Sonic Rush Sonic Riders Sonic Rush Adventure Sonic And The Secret Rings Sonic Rivals Sonic Riders Zero Gravity Sonic Rivals 2 Sonic Unleashed and Night Of The Werehog Sonic And The Black Knight Sonic Free Riders Sonic Colors (The Wii, DS and Ultimate versions) and Sonic Colors Rise Of The Wisps Sonic Generations Sonic Lost World Sonic Forces Digital Prequel Comics and the Episode Shadow DLC Sonic Forces Team Sonic Racing with events from the IDW Comic and Team Sonic Racing Overdrive Sonic Speed Simulator Tailstube Sonic Frontiers Prologues Convergence And Divergence Sonic Frontiers Sonic Prime The Murder Of Sonic The Hedgehog
@xamp_exclammark
Жыл бұрын
I feel alone in enjoying Shadow 05 unironically as much as i do and liking the story it has to tell lol
@ZeldaSam1
Жыл бұрын
1:45:48 1 thing that still bothers me though; in 1 cutscene Erazor Djinn summons Ifrit by saying "Ye condemned by Iblis" which is IMPOSSIBLE if Solaris's very existence was erased!!! 1:50:42 OH YEAH!!! MY FAVORITE!!! I LOVE Sonic's Werehog form!!! & I also feel this was either A: An apology for how horrible Sonic '06 was or B: a game that had the level of quality Sonic '06 SHOULD'VE had!!! 2:05:18 I LOVE Sonic's reaction!!! 2:17:17 The first time I saw Infinite in the trailer, I honestly thought he was Mephiles!!!
@caity_strophic
11 ай бұрын
45:48 an explanation for this would be that shadow was kept in stasis with gun for 50 years. so people that worked for gum then vs now just dont recall a hedgehog in their confinements or they do and they just dont know wat he looks like or the specifics of his identity
@wrymehexin3885
Жыл бұрын
Zero Gravity is at least manageable, Riders is just a disaster. Free Riders... Enough said
@Mr.Meme222
7 ай бұрын
Where does Sonic Superstars line up? It's in classic sonic, but does this attach lucky and Lego sonic?
@Skypatroller_BenCD
4 ай бұрын
That video was made before Sonic Superstars exists and second it has been confirmed that Sonic Superstar takes place between Mania and Adventure
@EricJosiahWorld
7 ай бұрын
This is an amazing video you put together. It must have been a ton of work and research to do. I give you so much credit for putting it together the way you did, kudos. 🎉
@Sammy-34079
2 ай бұрын
I LOVED MARVEL DC Transformers Sonic The Hedgheog.
@TeamSonic92
Жыл бұрын
Sonic generations is also my favorite Sonic game. People say that I'm wrong because there isn't much story. At least we have something in common. Also, can you please re-review the Ratchet and Clank Future trilogy and actually say a crack in time is better than the original?
@josemartines6731
Жыл бұрын
Ok this it good
@IronicSonic83
Жыл бұрын
Dude your work is amazing. I will revisit this video forever. Thank you very much
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