I was completely discouraged to watch the video because it was 24 min long; I started and couldn't stop! What an AMAZING analysis! Thank you!!
@sadzicbulwy
2 жыл бұрын
*I like the old style Echo Dot because it's small also **Newest.Technology**, gives out decent sound and doesn't take up a lot of shelf space if you want to put it on beam in the workshop or shed.*
@discbrakefan
Жыл бұрын
The Echo Dot speaker is nowhere near these though
@Beer_Dad1975
11 ай бұрын
Yeah sorry, but the audio from the Dot is pretty shoddy - OK if that's all you have, but really it's for voice control interaction - I personally wouldn't use it for music.
@philb3985
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter, so interesting and love the fact you 'reveal' your favourite at the beginning. My first time for watching one of your vids.... really impressed
@markwalsh2709
3 жыл бұрын
I've bought into the Sonos ecosystem and I have added a single Roam to my 9 other Sonos speakers (3 fives, 4 moves, 1 beam, and a pair of Klipsch Fives with the Sonos Port). If you don't play the Roam comparing it to other speakers, it sounds pretty good. If you do comparisons, then they do seem to lack a bit. I'm torn on whether to keep this roam or to return it and move on to my next addition. If it could act as a speaker/mic for conference phone calls over Bluetooth, that would be awesome. Maybe a firmware update will allow that. I'll probably keep it, but I find it very hard to find a use case for others to buy the Roam. As an option to the Sonos Ecosystem, I think I would consider buying whatever speakers you like, and then add an Arylic A50 integrated streaming amplifier to each pair of speakers. For now, I'm happy with Sonos, but its a premium price.
@ksy76
3 жыл бұрын
You can definitely hear a difference. The sonos is much more crisper and detailed in the percussions, more instrument separation too (you can follow the brass, strings, and shakers all separately). Homepod Mini is muffled and muddy and instruments compete against each other (strings sound very artifical, brass are like synths, and can't hear the shakers).
@heysalq
2 жыл бұрын
how much is too much sound. You won't be jamming at high volumes most of the time. Sonos is going away from Sonos S1 controller and in the beginning their sales pitch: Sonos will never outdate any speakers and owners will always be able to add to the original speakers. Also, Sonos was known for how simple it was to add a new speaker to your existing speakers....have you tried to add the roam to original play fives, play ones, original sound bar?? It is complicated and very time consuming and if your Sonos system is reset for power failure or any other reason....you'll find yourself spending more time trying to make your sound system work than time enjoying the sound. I believe Sonos had a great idea and awesome system in the beginning but they have clouded on their focus and goals for a bigger piece of the pie. No real smart speaker yet, higher costs and soon facing out original Sono's speaker and software...no loyalty to customers there...Also, do you really use your speakers at a loud volume level? I suggest not because you will have many people complain about noise destruction....Do I like Sonos? Definitely..but Bec. of the reasons I stated above and the fact that most times I don't even play up to mid high volume level...I not loyal to Sonos anymore.
@Beer_Dad1975
11 ай бұрын
I bought my wife a Roam as a PC desktop speaker/gardening speaker - it's actually astounding how clear and loud it is considering how small it is. I'm going to get her another one so she can have a stereo pair for her PC.
@flaviantropy
3 жыл бұрын
From the tunes played at the end... The mini does sound deeper. (Using airplay 2 to play it from my macbook to my sonos one SL)
@bfife22
3 жыл бұрын
I have a HomePod mini I use in the home, and the a Sonos Roam I use outside on the patio in tandem with speakers in my living room (love having airplay on my TV). It's nice to have bluetooth in the Sonos and bring it to the pool, beach, etc.
@Alperic27
3 жыл бұрын
The sound difference is huge… they truly have completely different ‘personalities’ … .. I like the definition of the piano stokes on the roam. The mini is a lot flatter accross the spectrum,. It definitely adds to the mids, but also makes them feels less defined. Makes me curious about the original recording itself. Listening to this short section (eg around 23:11… but interestingly, I dont likr the roam either in the section just after: the trebles feel just like poridge), I think I would not be able to listen to the mini for long periods without feeling that it gets on my nerves. Thx for taking taking the time.
@jarhead4657
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get the comparison since they are different speakers for different purposes. It’s pretty well known that the version of Mac OS in beta will a;low all system sounds from pored HomePods. It’s been in beta for awhile and due out. shortly. The Minis have much better soundstage plus 360 sound. I think people would be really interested in stereo roams vs stereo ones since the idea of totally wireless Sonos speakers is interesting. I would also compare the minis to ones. A lot of people interested in that too.
@mattsynth
3 жыл бұрын
Great job on comparing, but these are two speakers designed for a different purpose at a big difference in price. I did enjoyed the comparison in sound, they do sound similar.
@nimrod750
3 ай бұрын
I really enjoy this video man. thank you
@kunchography3725
3 жыл бұрын
HomePod mini can be powered by portable battery pack, it can also be used without Wi-Fi with Peer-to-Peer AirPlay! I have used my HomePod mini portably outside of the house and it’s great!
@soanis6362
3 жыл бұрын
if you can have calls on the mini while out and about, then it's a real winner
@kunchography3725
3 жыл бұрын
@@balupton not true Peer to Peer AirPlay does not require a Wi-Fi internet connection It uses a Wi-Fi direct connection the same way AirDrop does I’ve used mine outside of the house in a delivery vehicle without any Wi-Fi or internet on the HomePod, just a battery pack and an iPhone that simply AirPlay’s directly to the completely offline HomePod
@soanis6362
3 жыл бұрын
@@balupton it’s reportedly using Bluetooth to setup a wifi connection between the iPhone and the HomePod. Same as Wireless CarPlay. This needs more attention imho because badass diy portable hp minis can come out of it
@paoc4818
3 жыл бұрын
@@kunchography3725 hi i was also able to do this on my homepod mini. Curious though as i also want to get a sonos roam, do u think it can do the same thing? Or its limited to bluetooth? Thanks
@brunosco
2 жыл бұрын
That’s great! But then I guess you can’t make a stereo pair, right?
@John-rb2cw
3 жыл бұрын
MacOS support for stereo HP pairs currently works on Apple Music / TV app only, system support coming is coming in 11.3.
@danellul9710
3 жыл бұрын
Is that working now?
@paulspanja6137
3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos, keep up the great work.
@DWilliam1
3 жыл бұрын
You’re doing a great job. Enjoy the channel.
@pickleflickle
2 жыл бұрын
Your video helped me make such a good deicions. the length of the video is worth my time!
@stijndevries
3 жыл бұрын
I’m getting a roam to use in combination with my HomePod mini, AirPlay is great
@PeterPee
3 жыл бұрын
That could work. They will play in tandem. But not stereo paired ya.
@stijndevries
3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterPee Yes, I find that playing mono sound from two sources to come quite close to stereo. The HomePods work in stereo with the next macOS update BTW! www.macrumors.com/2021/02/03/macos-11-3-homepod-stereo-pairs/
@angzander8536
3 жыл бұрын
The airplay to Sonos stereo pair will there be any delay?
@jofara
3 жыл бұрын
@@angzander8536 I haven’t noticed any. It really sounds great.
@angzander8536
3 жыл бұрын
@@jofara thank you so much for the reply.
@robbieasghari8361
3 жыл бұрын
So which one do you guys think sounds better. I think the Apple HomePod minis sound a little bit better but I am getting 2 Sonos roams since they are portable and the apple HomePod mini is not. It’s the perfect portable size, but it’s just is not made to work unplugged of course
@SuperD00D
2 жыл бұрын
Can’t give to coffee fund just yet but I like, share, subscribe, comment, and I will eventually donate. Thank you Peter, I love your videos and you’re an awesome human being. Also, right now my wife is using 2 homepod minis as the rear surrounds for our new Sonos Beam Gen 2. We also have an Arc/sub combo getting delivered either later today or Monday, and some Symphonisk bookshelf speakers. Originally the bookshelfs were going with the Beam, but we want rears on both systems now. So she thought to keep the homepod minis as rear surrounds, not realizing how much worse the Beam sounds through airplay 2 than with hdmi arc. And that’s with my tv for the beam only supporting DD 5.1 and not Atmos! Thankfully the tv the ARC is going on has hdmi 2.1. The issue with the homepod minis and airplay 2 is they are behind us but being played as FL and FR stereo pair, plus they ruin the sound quality of the beam. It still sounds good, but only half as good as hdmi arc/DD 5.1. Is it worth getting an HD Fury arcana just to get Atmos support on my Beam? It’s just a side bedroom tv we use a little bit before bed. Most serious watching will be on the 75” Sony X900H with arc/sub/Symphonisk.
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t need to spend on arcana just to get the Atmos for a tv that is just a secondary display for your family. It’s really not worth the money.
@eugenekong9972
3 жыл бұрын
I bought one for my desktop because I wanted a lower volume minimal set up. Now I’m tempted to try it in stereo with two. So much tech included but not cheap...with stereo set up close to 400 bucks for a minimalist desktop sound set up. 😬 mainly for KZitem a little bit of movies...
@PeterPee
3 жыл бұрын
Stereo really makes it much better but really you have to ask yourself if the cost is worth it if it is just going to sitting on your desk.
@eugenekong9972
3 жыл бұрын
I bit the bullet and got the second Roam to test stereo for desktop KZitem listening...🤞
@peterschnelle40
3 жыл бұрын
man I appreciate your videos so much. Thank you!!
@user-vp9zt3sk7b
3 жыл бұрын
I am interested buying a pair of Sonos Five and add it to my Beam 5.1 System because I need two more Speakers in my house.... I am very into music listening and want to know how much performance I am losing in comparison to a Stereo or 2.1 Setup with the fives. Maybe one day I will buy an Arc an a additional Sub too (Blackfriday 👀) but that isnt planned yet Sorry for bad language my German autocorrection is messing it up a little Bit...
@supriyodutta2815
2 жыл бұрын
Suggest better between nest audio vs sonos roam
@hacienda_rio_pellejas
3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@xdarshan
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have found this channel
@nerotv836
3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed, great content with the frequency sweeps testing!👌🏻
@JimboJason
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I was looking for a wireless replacement for my Ikea symfonisk.
@paul8926
3 жыл бұрын
You can definitely hear a difference with both mini speakers.
@goyol8681
3 жыл бұрын
They are very close. Sound quality leans to the Apple speakers. However, I agree with Peter, stereo configuration and connectivity are a BIG DEAL. Not to mentioning versatility with Bluetooth and battery. It’s sounds like the apple would be best for a set of IMac or Apple TV speakers. Otherwise Sonos is the clear choice.
@Beer_Dad1975
11 ай бұрын
Except as he notes, the Apple speakers won't work as a stereo pair from OS-X without some kind of faffing around even Peter couldn't understand. I'm guessing since this is 2 years old, Apple probably sorted this out by now - but still pretty sad, and unfortunately more and more typical of Apple in recent years that they couldn't get it right day one.
@mr.handsome4588
Ай бұрын
Has any one ever paired a HomePod with a Roam? If So, how was it?
@perry9900
Жыл бұрын
Does the sonos work the same op apple tv as the homepod mini?
@natedog207
Жыл бұрын
These are very different speakers. I was looking for a review of multi room option, not stereo. Have a large house and want to put a speaker in 3-5 of them. That price difference becomes huge. I don’t care for the battery. I have bigger speakers for outdoors. Do you still have them and how are they multi room.
@ephektz
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome comparison. Weird, I’ve never experienced this with my capture card. Also, yikes, the difference between the Roam and the Mini’s. You just saved me a HomePod Mini’s worth of cash! What a shame.
@angzander8536
3 жыл бұрын
Airplay to Sonos stereo pair speaker will there be any delay while playing movie?
@RockyLofeudo999
3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. However, not a fair comparison as the HomePods are not portable as we know. So it isn’t relevant. 👍
@apolozorb3649
3 жыл бұрын
Pete - is worth to have a pair of roams in your view ? Does it justify the cost ?
@srkgv
Жыл бұрын
Do you suggest getting the "white" and "black" sonos roam stereo pair? rather than all black color?
@PeterPee
Жыл бұрын
Actually, that was what I had in the beginning. But I only kept one. I liked that I was able to tell them apart visually. But aesthetically not as pleasing.
@noupot
2 жыл бұрын
Sonos Roam sounds way better than HomePod mini.
@mimevi
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, would you choose 1 move or 2 Roam? I'd use them at home and a large terrace.
@PeterPee
3 жыл бұрын
1 move. I am hearing LARGE terrace. The move will move a lot of air...ha. much more sound than the roam.
@raenicholson5544
3 жыл бұрын
Useful review for me as I’m debating getting a pair of Sonos roam for their mobility feature in my main room. Already have a stereo setup with a pair of minis in my tv/den. The minis have incredible sound for their size. Their main drawback is they require a connection to a wall plug. With your sample plays I thought the minis were slightly better… but coming through my speakers this was maybe an unfair view. About your reviews… you tend to be very repetitive at times and this takes away from the quality and usefulness of your reviews . You need to maybe more concise.
@PeterPee
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I am not a natural in front of the camera and it is actually a lot harder than I initially thought it'd be! Talking without feedback and having breaks in a two way conversation means that you have to queue up the thoughts in your head and sometimes the repetition unknowingly comes about when the brain is not processing fast enough! Thanks for helping me spot these things and I will get better!
@maspring415
2 жыл бұрын
Good job.
@paulhinds8868
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. 👍
@vandenhoogen
3 жыл бұрын
Mac os x not allowed to play in stereo to homepod or homepod mini is just stupid. Great Video as always!
@chrishampele181
3 жыл бұрын
already resolved in beta for some time.. coming soon..
@srkgv
Жыл бұрын
When you Airplay to "Two" Roams, is this still considered Stereo Pair?
@PeterPee
Жыл бұрын
No. You have to pair the roam into stereo first then it will be stereo.
@srkgv
Жыл бұрын
@@PeterPee Playing it via Airplay together, is it by itself a "stereo mode"?
@sivonparansun
Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for summary first
@PeterPee
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@ludovicoparedes7211
3 жыл бұрын
Can be pair sonos roam in multiroom with other speaker brand, using airplay?
@PeterPee
3 жыл бұрын
Technically yes. With Airplay 2 specifically.
@ludovicoparedes7211
3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterPee you can prove that?
@skittybeef
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, I would love if you can do a video on the sonos roam v/s beats pill since they both seem to be in the same category.
@angzander8536
3 жыл бұрын
Do HomePod pair vs nest audio?
@jarhead4657
3 жыл бұрын
Nest audio is getting pretty bad reviews for sound quality. Plus an open google microphone? No thanks.
@IaMBatman9000
2 жыл бұрын
Could just use them together through airplay though
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that can be done.
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
You know... I haven't sold off the Airpods mini yet... They are just so cute my god.
3 жыл бұрын
Can you use those Sonos as surrounds for the Arc?
@MrMeeseeks13
3 жыл бұрын
No
@robertogiudici276
3 жыл бұрын
If you have 900 euro for a soundbar and you want to save 50 euros for the sorround......it is no sense.
@Bobby-Inet
3 жыл бұрын
If i watch a youtube video on a Ipad, Can i stream the sound of the video to the Roam, and use the stereo set up with 2 roams?
@SteveClarkgovolz
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t see why not. You should be able to airplay them, no problem
@noupot
2 жыл бұрын
Sonos roam sounds much better.
@soanis6362
3 жыл бұрын
typo on the title ;)
@PeterPee
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing it out!
@christee2908
9 ай бұрын
This is exactly comparing apples to oranges.
@TheMobGodFather
3 жыл бұрын
Apples speakers feels fuller and richer my man.
@soberanisfam1323
2 жыл бұрын
Sonos Roam vs B&O Explore
@jezusrvd
3 жыл бұрын
🧐 interesting
@therealchickentender
3 жыл бұрын
Sonos S2 controller compatible only. Dealbreaker for me. Sonos wants me not to come back and stay with Bluesound it seems.
@ronnyeriksson6612
3 жыл бұрын
👍🥰🇸🇪
@alex173ek
3 ай бұрын
absolutely useless review
@JonMoralesLA
3 жыл бұрын
I was very disappointed in the HomePod and HomePod mini sound. Sounds overprocessed and weird. At louder volumes especially the homepods change their sound signature in a way that just sounds awful to me. Just never got the hype with homepods.
@jarhead4657
3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t disagree more. But they are all heavy dsp speakers.
@BobTh3Bully
3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing with mine when i first got them, however if you move them away from walls or a confined space like a shelf or desk, they sound much better, since the DSP is not trying so hard to compensate, they sound much more natural now. Might try it out.
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