Chris needs a roadie to keep a fishing rod on them at all times.
@TheMrKonov
Ай бұрын
This time Jordan head shot was floating head on an another level 😂
@jeffmiller6343
Ай бұрын
F1.4 vs. F1.2 is only 1/3 to 1/2 stop not 2/3 stop 😊
@Lass_muc
Ай бұрын
I wanted to point it out but you did already. Good catch.
@TheBlakeEverhart
Ай бұрын
Yes yes, 85mm 1.4,,, got it. Can we talk about how awesome this GH7 footage looks 👀 ??
@gcvrsa
Ай бұрын
No sensor can caputre better than what the glass presents to it.
@saint4030
Ай бұрын
Result @8:30 Sigma still in the Game
@everydayisextra
Ай бұрын
I bought the Sigma 85mm 1.4 on the last day of 2022 and couldn’t be happier with the shots coming out of both my A7M4 and A7R5. Hard to believe that this new Sony version might even add some more horsepower to the game, but I have no regrets as is. Thanks for the type of review which thoroughly hits home in terms of my kind of capturing preferences!
@youknowwho9247
Ай бұрын
I have the sigma as well, and it's great ... on its own. The issue I have with it is that it renders colours significantly warmer than the Sony glass, and adds contrast as well. Mixing it with the 35 or 50 GM at weddings adds a fair bit of extra work in post. So I will be selling it and get the new Sony 85. Your mileage may vary of course.
@sgpork
Ай бұрын
The only problem about the old one is the af is very bad. . Glad Sony finally update it. It has been almost 8 years. Lol.
@JonathanPetersonlisten2EITS
Ай бұрын
EXACTLY! I'm surprised they waited this long.
@zapadakofflv8560
Ай бұрын
Yes, when I bought the 85 I was disappointed with its speed, I was thinking of returning it. I should have done it. It is huge and slow. At the same time I bought a new 50/1.4 and it is great.
@artmaltman
Ай бұрын
I prefer f/1.4 over f/1.2. The latter rarely gets both eyes in focus. And the weight.
@JuanSanchez-zz3me
Ай бұрын
I watch reviews for gear I'll never have, but at least I do have an 85mm 1.4g I got for 400 dollars
@raptorbass4054
Ай бұрын
I don't even have a sony camera yet I watch these reviews 😂
@Lofote
Ай бұрын
A mount?
@JuanSanchez-zz3me
Ай бұрын
@@Lofote f mount Nikon f glass is super cheap, and gets crazy deals at times. I got a 300mm f4 Ed for 84 dollars, a Tamron 70-200 G2 for 394, and a 2nd one for 439. A sigma 150-600 for 352. Crazy prices
@Lofote
Ай бұрын
@@JuanSanchez-zz3me ah, nikon
@jhudieltorres2786
Ай бұрын
Using it on a sony body? hows the AF speed?
@matrixate
Ай бұрын
I was hyped about the speculation of the new 85GMii being f1.2...very disappointed.
@TrevorSuarez
Ай бұрын
Oh hey! That's @WildRiversMusic at 10:07! Great shot!
@jriceblue
Ай бұрын
You really did get quite a few nice shots on this one!
@shawnwu2954
Ай бұрын
Thump up for the tee in the video “胡子哥” lol
@costafilh0
Ай бұрын
Just like the 50mm, 1.2 to 1.4 won't be a problem for most people. The weight and handling will.
@benejpocock
Ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts too. I don’t shoot FF (sorry, MFT loser here 😂) but even with MFT, the Oly 20mm 1.4 is almost half the weight of the 1.2 primes. I think it’s a good play by Sony to sacrifice those 2/3 of a stop for size and handling. I wonder what it would weigh if it was a 1.2? 🤔
@costafilh0
Ай бұрын
@@benejpocockIf the big box store sales numbers are real, the market doesn't care either. Those huge F1.2 lenses are more of a "because we can" than a "because people buy them". They're VERY nice, but not very practical.
@andyphotoandfilm
Ай бұрын
Sony is probably going to make a 1.2 anyways… they know that people want it and they just didn’t want to make the same “ mistake” like with the 50mm. There are customers for both.
@walwhite7399
Ай бұрын
Shoutout to Chris Nicholls for wearing a T-shirt featuring his own face. Nice work fellas, a great review as always
@MIRAAAS
Ай бұрын
But the Sigma 85 1.4 can actually focus at distances closer than 1m (3 ft)…
@fangzhou3235
Ай бұрын
胡子哥你好!
@tammytrashbags
Ай бұрын
this lens looks beautiful, but what I personally long for (having been shooting these types of lenses on my OM film camera recently) is a high quality, compact 85 or 90mm f2 with .5 magnification. I know canon make a close focussing 85 f2 for rf mount, which is right up my street, though sadly not the system I'm invested in. When it comes down to it I just always find the massive increase in versatility that close focussing brings far more useful than ultra shallow depth of field (which, at 85 or 90mm, f2 generally does just fine). That's ofc just my personal use case though. Why are these sorts of lenses out of fashion, do you think?
@larrychicco1062
Ай бұрын
It's a great question. I do genuinely think at least some part of the issue is marketing. A lot of the gear is reduced down to specs compariaon these days. In my club a lot of the armatures who seem to have money to burn are obsessed with specs.
@KlausKusserow-ClassicalGuitar
Ай бұрын
02:14 :-))))) Jordaaaaaan🙂
@PhotoTrekr
Ай бұрын
If I was a studio shooter, this lens would definitely go on my camera.
@JoshStreetDesign
Ай бұрын
@@PhotoTrekr The sigma 105 1.4 art is the best option. It lives on my camera in my studio.
@NeonShores
Ай бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesignwould love to see Sigma update that lens for mirrorless with new focus motors but keep the character. I want it but I'm having a hard time wanting to pay that much for an old adapted lens.
@JoshStreetDesign
Ай бұрын
@@NeonShores focus works great on my a7rV, as long as you're not shooting sports
@BtoZ403
Ай бұрын
Nice T shirt…胡子哥😂
@Mattrossphoto
Ай бұрын
‘She’s breathing and singing at the same time so let’s talk about breathing’ homie that was a reach 😂😂😂😂
@DavidHolliday
Ай бұрын
Hey Chris, usually, in your videos, I'm expecting you to drop the camera because you tend not to use any straps. Today, however, you're toting a cool wrist strap. Might I ask what it is?
@youknowwho9247
Ай бұрын
It's 1/3 stop advantage for the f/1.2 glass, not 2/3. That's still an advantage, sure, but at twice the weight and a grand pricier ... personally I'm very happy that Sony went with the more sensible, practical option rather than pointlessly competing in an arms race.
@ProbeRoket
Ай бұрын
Dope pic of black thought. Greatest emcee of all time!!!
@spencerl885
Ай бұрын
3D pop! Looking between your shots with the old Sony and the Sigma and this new lens it looks so 3D like on this new lens. The subject in focus really stands out (looking on a calibrated computer monitor). I wonder if the slight focus breathing 'creates' the 3D pop effect in some lenses, now I'm curious if zero focus breathing lenses look more dull 2D flat in the image in comparison? Where the subject and the background it's super hard to get a sense of distance from the scene? Or is it more to do with bokeh quality, image distortion type (pincussion etc) and sheer contrast from barrel coatings?
@shawn4900
Ай бұрын
@ 9:54 is that Black Thought from the Roots? Nice pic , nice lens
@patrickchase5614
Ай бұрын
I’m a loyal Sony user, but I think that ultra-fast mid-teles are where they really pay for the E-mount’s smaller diameter. If you look at the exit pupil diameters of the Canon and Nikon 85/1.2s, they’re both larger than anything Sony has managed to cram into FE (including the 50/1.2). With that said it’s not a deal-breaker for me and Sony has plenty of other advantages.
@BrandonColePhotography
Ай бұрын
I dont know what Sony is thinking. This should have been a 1.2 hands down. The 85mm 1.2 is an untapped market for Sony because NOBODY makes a 1.2 for Sony E mount. Not sigma , tamron nobody. This was a complete overlook and trying to compare the sales of the 50mm to estimate what the 85 will do was just dumb. Now when Sigma drops the first 85mm 1.2 for Sony E mount they will regret it . Whoever dropped the 85 1.2 for Sony would've sold like crazy and Sony completely missed the opportunity especially when the Sigma 85 is so close to accuracy of this lens and not that far up. So dumb. Sigma your up, hopefully they do not make the same mistake. It's just crazy to me how the 85 1.2 is untapped and nobody is gonna come get this money. Sigma will make a 1.2 and completely steal the temporary light of the GM II. I will continue to rock my Sigma 85 1.4, until they drop the 1.2
@JonathanPetersonlisten2EITS
Ай бұрын
Who says they aren't working on it? They released the 50mm f1.2 GM then released a f1.4 lens shortly thereafter.
@tonyferrell3456
Ай бұрын
There is a Mitakon that is 1.2. Know nothing about it other than it exists.
@jlwilliams
Ай бұрын
Contrary to what Chris says at 09:40, f/1.2 isn't 2/3 stop faster than f/1.4, it's between 1/3 and 1/2 stop. Nobody's going to care because Nikon and Canon have f/1.2s so Sony users suffer a loss of masculinity if they roll up with an f/1.4, but significant? It would make no difference to the rendering of real-world subjects such as the person at 04:30, who definitely needs to get an invite to the end-of-the-year drinking-game show.
@Jabber-ig3iw
Ай бұрын
The fact nobody makes one for Sony should tell you something 🤷♂️
@heiner71
Ай бұрын
Chris, who makes your wrist strap?
@niccollsvideo
Ай бұрын
That’s from Wotan craft. Check out their stuff, best around I think. @wotancraft
@AdamKinMI
Ай бұрын
Great work as always gentlemen.
@JoshStreetDesign
Ай бұрын
Hmmmm, $1800.... So more than twice the price I paid for my sigma... Image quality will be essentially the same so basically you're just paying for faster autofocus... Can't really say that I need autofocus that much faster for over $900....
@BrasilOO7
Ай бұрын
Right, with a portrait lens you most probably go shooting fast moving birds! 🙂
@alphaandomega2709
Ай бұрын
Keh reminds me of GameStop for selling gear too.
@Iamtongue
Ай бұрын
4:31 whats her @?
@AudiomoeTV
Ай бұрын
Beautiful lens… I own the 1.4 and I’m sticking with it but would’ve loved a 1.2
@paulhancock
Ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this lens to appear for quite a while, as I really only need an 85 to round out my lens kit. However, I assumed Sony would release an exorbitantly priced f1.2 before another f1.4, so nearly pulled the trigger on the Sigma last week. Bit of a dilemma now, although the Sigma currently has a £100 voucher so it's getting close to half the price of the Sony MKII. So is that even a dilemma or an obvious choice?! Bah. I realise this comment is absolutely irrelevant to anyone but myself. Thanks for providing a platform for me to publicly think aloud...
Terrible fringing at your photos. This lens is garbage like first version. I wonder how Sony could sell this crap for 2k. Watch you photo on 10.05. Watch at white background. You see huge fringing? This is terrible result! What are you talking about this lens?
@Gremlack13
Ай бұрын
That lady dancing in the background… Kind of funny.
@noenken
Ай бұрын
9:39 Isn't 1.4 to 1.2 only 1/3 difference? I always thought it was f/1.4 - f/1.2 - f/1.1 - f/1. Now I'm questioning my sanity. xD
@goodthiefphoto
Ай бұрын
I think I'm going to stick with my Sigma on my A7R V. I don't think I'd see that much advantage in the new lens from Sony. Now, if they released a f1.2, then I'd definitely consider swapping.
@twoblink
Ай бұрын
The metal armband on the singer shows minimal CA as well.
@deepstagesrt4
28 күн бұрын
How does it compare to the Canon Rf 85mm f1.4 or the f1.8? No? How about any Rf 85mm that is less than $2k. None? Oh.... cool...
@charlieself
Ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see if this is any good for astro. Previous GM version was not great and many went for the 85mm f1.8 as it gave good results and was lighter in weight and wallet. Loved the Jordan floating headshot. Are you taking on @Jordi Koalitic for artistic shots 😅
@Synchrodipity
Ай бұрын
Twice as much as I paid for my Mk1 - considering how slow and noisy the AF was, I think Sony should compensate the difference. ;)
@abdillahmuhammadal-maawiy5707
Ай бұрын
Impressive lens wow
@makudoh115
Ай бұрын
胡子哥!
@HwL01
Ай бұрын
TBH 1.2 vs 1.4 didn't get a very big difference in bokeh etc.. I rather have a smaller lighter 1.4 vs a heavy 1.2
@funtaril
Ай бұрын
9:40 what do you mean "two thirds of a stop"? Thirds of a stop go 1 - 1.1 - 1.2 - 1.4. It's only one third between 1.2 and 1.4.
@RG-rm9jt
Ай бұрын
Good review guys. Sticking with my sigma, but good to know this is a small upgrade.
@jliang70
Ай бұрын
Maybe we will see Sigma releasing a new one too, Sigma DGDN 85mm F1.4 being around for almost 3 years.
@Separade
Ай бұрын
Ye no way. The Sony version 1 was 8 years old. We still have to see serious comparisons between the sigma and the version 2
@damiandazervin2079
Ай бұрын
I was hoping for a 1.2 but Sony has to come out with a new version of the 1.4 before they release the 85mm 1.2?
@nicolaiecostel
Ай бұрын
It is absolutely not 2 thirds of a stop between 1.4 and 1.2, it is 0.44 stops, so not even half a stop, almost one third of a stop !!
@jeff.amador
Ай бұрын
Uhhh...has this even been officially announced?
@ferociousbiscuit
Ай бұрын
Yes. It's in the store front already.
@iggy880
Ай бұрын
Yes. These reviews are embargoed until after announcement, though sometimes same day.
@USGrant21st
Ай бұрын
@8:54 did he say the "maximum birth rate"? 🤔
@niccollsvideo
Ай бұрын
No but I will from now on!
@Jakobe_Beef
Ай бұрын
Now I need to know what is the maximum birth rate
@nsnoesuarez
Ай бұрын
impressed but sadly I can't afford this..
@quantumimagesQC
Ай бұрын
The 50mm f/1.4GM is my favorite lens. So light and incredibly sharp at 1.4 even with my A7RV. So I'm surely getting the 85!
@jujuxl
Ай бұрын
Finally ❤
@testxxxx123
Ай бұрын
Have no use for this focal lens though ...
@TheFallengiant
Ай бұрын
I had the FE 50mm f/1.2 GM and it was a really nice lens but I never found the f/1.2 aperture all that useful. I often stopped down to 1.4 or even 2.0. In a lot of circumstances the focus plane at f/1.2 was just too narrow. I much preferred my FE 35mm f/1.4 GM. So I think it’s great they stuck with f/1.4 and saved some weight and bulk. Couple with the improved optics and auto focus I think this will be a very popular lens. And the price will come down in time and with sales.
@Biosynchro
Ай бұрын
Interesting that Leica's best SL lenses are all f/2, and don't have aperture rings. But Sony takes a very different approach, one that you could say is more in line with Leica's philosophy, albeit a philosophy that's applied to M lenses, not SL ones. The Leica 90 Apo Summicron-SL focuses closer, but it's heavier and costs more.
@TheFallengiant
Ай бұрын
I had the FE 50mm f/1.2 GM and it was a really nice lens but I never found the f/1.2 aperture all that useful. I often stopped down to 1.4 or even 2.0. In a lot of circumstances the focus plane at f/1.2 was just too narrow. I much preferred my FE 35mm f/1.4 GM. So I think it’s great they stuck with f/1.4 and saved some weight and bulk. Couple with the improved optics and auto focus I think this will be a very popular lens.
@yuchengzhang3251
Ай бұрын
i can't believe chris is wearing a 胡子哥 tshirt
@MedikationYT
16 күн бұрын
I’d love to try this lens for my videos!
@gcvrsa
Ай бұрын
There is really nothing like a fast moderate telephoto in the 85-105 mm range for portraiture. There's a reason that for so many years, photographers have used three fast prime lenses: a wide angle (24-35 mm), a normal perspective (40-60 mm), and a telephoto (85-105 mm). At least f/2.0, but the faster the better, for shooting natural light.
@erbterb
Ай бұрын
They have to update the 90mm macro. It is slow, hunts, flutters even with a A7IV. It was even worse than with original A7. I was shocked when I put that bad girl on.
@JiajuChen
Ай бұрын
What's up with that 胡子哥 T-shirt? What did i miss?
@LMActionsports
Ай бұрын
It is going to have to be seriously upgrade compared to the Sigma 85 f1.4 DG DN for me to switch. More fps is not enough for me to switch. No questions about it. It’s definitely a much better upgrade than the original 85 GM. But if it’s only a little bit sharper than the sigma, I will just keep the sigma. But it’s nice that sewing finally updated this lens it was really needed.
@scottchiang7616
Ай бұрын
So now KEH wants to see a picture of your lens before buying, but NOT providing real product shot of gears they're selling?
@WayneLLC
Ай бұрын
Been holding out for 1.2 for the longest time....(and having waited so long), I really cant say that I am the most excited about this. Now, I understand this is my own expectations to bear but with Sony, I know they absolutely can do a 1.2 and I want to keep hoping they eventually do. Happy for the rest who are upgrading from their v1, I just be waiting a bit longer for miracles.
@1585AS
Ай бұрын
I never understood what you mean when you say the bokeh is busy? Please explain (with some zoom in pics). Tnx.
@iggy880
Ай бұрын
Okay, that shot of Jordan in the mirror is pretty great. Cute photo of a cute lad.
@rongubin2548
Ай бұрын
All praise to Sony. Releasing their 2nd version of an 85mm f1.4, whereas Canon is yet to release their first for RF (or let someone else do it).
@reg171reg
Ай бұрын
I totally read that sign as the "Call Gary Folk Festival" Leave me alone it's not my fault. I'm Australian.
@mikaelnilsson5912
Ай бұрын
Weight and AF improvements are the most important imo. And that it is sharper, has less LoCA and maybe better bokeh than the GM mark 1 is pretty cool.
@alen2937
Ай бұрын
Isolating subject = lowest aperture (or remove all the things surrounding the object).
@terencemorrissey4413
Ай бұрын
The Sigma 85mm has significantly more pincushion distortion than the new Sony.
@charlesmcguffy
Ай бұрын
at 2:54 you said 'we now have a clickable aperture switch' but that is on the GM 1. I think you meant to say that the Iris Lock is the new feature on the GM 2.
@saibhargavamanda1062
Ай бұрын
The lense i wanted in Nikon😢
@tagtheshooterphotography2540
Ай бұрын
with Sony the 1.2 will come out in bout 6 months after the 1.4 sales slow down..
@paulengle5784
Ай бұрын
We should all be lucky if we found someone who loves us like Chris loves fishing. 😂😂😂😂
@vegansoy
Ай бұрын
That background music was profoundly dorky 😂
@adamsorgi1457
Ай бұрын
Lol the person in the background of the flare testing intro at 4:30
@Lofote
Ай бұрын
I want her in every flare test from now on :)
@keanusun9977
Ай бұрын
love your t-shirt 😂
@AndreiGrigorean
Ай бұрын
There's only 1/3 stop difference between F1.2 and F1.4. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number#Typical_one-third-stop_f-number_scale
@dannyli9424
Ай бұрын
Besides the frame rate concern, is this finally a better lens than the Sigma 85 1.4?
@zhaiminwei250
Ай бұрын
胡子哥
@jarodyin6341
Ай бұрын
胡子哥 :)
@星尘-s2c
29 күн бұрын
卧槽 “胡子哥”的T恤!!!
@nathanaeldavenport2251
Ай бұрын
Even as a satisfied, loyal Nikon shooter… Sony’s innovation is not easy to ignore.
@SergioVotta
Ай бұрын
li👍
@Alex-mi3pc
Ай бұрын
胡子哥真穿了这T恤哈哈哈🎉
@DavidDatura
Ай бұрын
Can’t AI fix LoCA in post by now?
@ArmaniFlyHigh
Ай бұрын
No DoF scale...
@iggy880
Ай бұрын
Sony really needed this. The original 85mm 1.4 is so outclassed by other manufacturers and left a big gap for Sony shooters doing portraits. Seems like a natural choice if you're a working professional doing portraits, but I agree the price otherwise will give enthusiasts pause.
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