I attended the Capital Audio Fest and believe the Sourcepoint Tens were the standout of the show. I would listen to other rooms, then go back to the Mofi room just to confirm what I thought about them, then go back to other rooms, then back to the Mofi room. I probably heard Andrew's presentation 5 times throughout the weekend. On axis, off axis, etc. They were phenomenal.
@jwilson086
Жыл бұрын
I felt the same way at the Florida show this weekend. I ended up purchasing a pair before leaving the show.
@maximo90019
Жыл бұрын
The power of KZitem in capable hands. A very respectful presentation. Much appreciated.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed.
@MrKrierry
10 ай бұрын
Just landed on a pair of Sourcepoint 8's for my small listening room. I picked them over KEF R3 Meta, Buchardt S400Mll SE, Warfdale Linton - thanks for all the reviews/advice.. just need to let them run in and make some room adjustments, but I think I found my speakers for the foreseeable future..
@revelry1969
Жыл бұрын
I have been exploring my sourcepoint 10 for about 1 week now. Phenomenal! I am beginning to love them a lot. I mean a lot. I agree they are big but what you get is Uber balanced bass that sounds “real” and natural sense of the recordings really shines. The sound reproduction quality is high. I agree that you have to set them up a bit to get the optimum soundstage etc. I have the walnut ones and the finish is top notch. They handle TOOL and heavy metal etc. No problem. I am running a Sansui 9090DB for amp. It has no problem driving these and drive easily.
@nymarty
Жыл бұрын
I met you at CAF and also heard the Sourcepoint 10 speakers. Both were highlights of the event. Steve McCormack is a legend and I have his DNA-1. What a great interview! Thanks for all of your conversations with Steve!
@mikelanier5617
Жыл бұрын
I agree that Andrew has a complete suite of these in various sizes designed and ready to manufacture depending on the demand they receive. Would love to see a 6 inch model for surrounds. Loved the discussion and really enjoyed hearing Steve's thoughts on both design and his listening experience. I'm an old hifi representative retired to Florida and always respected and liked Steve's work in the industry. His passion for these speakers is so exciting and I agree with him in regards to Andrew being very talented, humble and just a joy to talk shop with. Looking forward to hearing these soon. Happy holidays to everyone !
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
Great comment and I think a 6 inch may be a good idea for even a computer desktop, dormitory, or small bedroom A/V application.
@mikelanier5617
Жыл бұрын
Update: Well the SourcePoint 8 is now out there, so hmm, I may be upgrading my bookshelf speakers now..lol. Crutchfield has 60 day returns and free shipping ☺️
@AbsoluteFidelity
Жыл бұрын
Heard them in a well treated room with Mark Levinson and Krell amps. Didnt like what I heard, mids are shouty, almost horn-like and it sounded like there is a missing piece in the frequency range, my guess is most probably somewhere in the upper mids around 800hz - 2khz. Definitely a tuned by ear type of speaker, it can sound good on certain tracks and sound awful, I mean AWFUL, on other tracks. One track that I tested was Leonard Cohen's A Thousand Kisses Deep, his voice has never been that thin and shouty, almost brittle. A very coloured midrange, and it still persisted with different amps. Everyone in the room agreed. Listen for yourself, you might like it, or might hate it like me. Bass was impressive though, but they are HUGE for standmount. Build quality is great.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
That's different than Steve's impressions/description as he spoke about that range in the video. It could be different tastes or rooms, but Leonard Cohen is a very tricky reference. He sounds different on the same systems depending on how he's mic'd and the type of mic on each recording.. He also has such an unnatural and unique voice that it's even tougher to know what's the true reference unless you've heard him sing live without any mic. My intuition with him is that speakers, mics, and recordings accentuate certain aspects of his voice and are somewhat of a caricature. As for the shouty horn style, it does have a quasi wave guide and Steve mentioned the importance of getting on axis but that their dispersion was more direct and focused... So it could be just different ways of describing similar impressions. I personally found them more open and far less horn-like on the material I heard. They don't capture the the scale and dispersion of my open baffle point source array, but I could say that for virtually every speaker at the show.
@garyalexander5686
Жыл бұрын
@@AudiophileJunkie "Unnatural"? Not to quibble but how can a human voice unaltered by electronics sound anything but natural?
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
You don't find Leonard Cohen's voice unique and different from virtually all others in a more significant way. You can quibble over the adjective "unnatural" but I also used it with "unique" for context. Unless you've heard him without any electronics or mic related recording/mastering, it's much harder to use him as a reference for certain frequencies versus say a snare drum or other more common sound with less unknowns and variations. In my previous video on mistakes audiophiles make, I also talk about the importance of using test tones and your ears...as well as using many reference tracks... before making knee jerk conclusions. Thus, this was a perfect example where highlighting just one artist with a very unique voice to judge a speaker can be problematic and misleading.
@AbsoluteFidelity
Жыл бұрын
@@AudiophileJunkie Leonard's voice was just one example but a very good one. Sarah's voice, Adele's voice, even MJ's voice all sounded shouty and unnatural. Im used to that room as I have auditioned many speakers in there, NONE sounded that shouty and thin. Even entry level Focals didnt sound like that in that very same room with the exact same amps. Guess its just not for me despite all the hype.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
If you're familiar with that room and other speakers, then yeah.. It might not be the speaker for you. I was going by your example and giving possible reasons your impressions seem to be different than most. Nevertheless, I do have a video of tracks with those same songs in the demo played on my system. It's definitely different, so like Steve even says in the video.. It won't be for everybody.
@truman4956
Жыл бұрын
Steve is such a wonderful guest and hope he is on the show more often.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
I have plenty of videos with him in the archive in case you want to see more.
@hifi2169
Жыл бұрын
Great interview with Steve. Years ago to owned both a McCormick DNA .5 and then a DNA 1 with Rev A upgrade I used with a pair of Vandersteen 3 signatures. I’ve always felt the Vandersteen 2Ce we’re more musical though for some reason? -I ended up trading them in and buying a Mark Levinson amplifier because I needed more power and current than what his amplifiers offered back then. Otherwise I would’ve stayed in the product line because I really did like the voicing of Steve’s amplifiers, especially on the bottom end of the spectrum.
@menfallinloveandwomenmakeplans
Жыл бұрын
Many thanks. Both the websites you mentioned, Music Direct and Audio Advice have them in stock.
@incognitoguitars9999
Жыл бұрын
Full disclosure - I’m a MoFi dealer. That said, I’ve had a pair and using one as a center for a week now. Didn’t know what to make of them at Cap Audio Fest as there was talking in the room etc.. So far I’m impressed. They’re the real deal. Low end is tremendous. Speakers are quick and very punchy. I think those who audition/purchase with be pleased. Using them with HiFi RoseRS520, Analysis Plus Blk Oval cables.
@iampuzzleman282
Жыл бұрын
Wow over an hour this is awesome. I love the segmenting of how you do the video and label segments. If only porn movies were set up this way, not that I ever do that.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
Maybe I'll start a channel on YouPorn 🫣
@michaelschultz1125
8 ай бұрын
I have not had the chance to hear these speakers yet, but I'm impressed by the reviews. My concern is that I have a Luxman L-505uX Mark II integrated amp, and I'm not sure it would be a good match with these speakers due to some brightness issues.
@carlsitler9071
Жыл бұрын
On my shoestring budget, I built a super cheap system that I love. I got a BasX on sale and an Asgard 3 for a preamp and an old cheap Sanskrit 2 dac. My speakers were free with a $200 Marantz SR7500 I bought at a rich guy's garage sale. Turns out the speakers were $1300 Denmark Triad LCRs (MTM) but not strong on bass so I bi-amped them with the 15" drivers in my Marantz SP1515 speakers I got for $75 at a garage sale which had recently been fitted with new surrounds. The Emotiva has a 80 hz high pass switch and 80 hz low pass line out so I power the 15s with my Aiyima A07. Plus I have my JBL sub set at 50 hz. Total cost for everything was $700.
@Staybrown11
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Carl. But are you saying for $700 hand me down system is as good or better then these speakers?
@666chew
Жыл бұрын
The online manual states the tweeter should be 33" off the floor. With the accompanying 20" stands, that's about 1.5" lower than specified for. That makes me wonder how good the vertical dispersion is as my Wharfdale Litton stands (which are very nicely made and look better) are 17" high. That puts the tweeter about level with my chin. I'd wager a 2-3" thick butcher block or other kind of solid spacer would suffice. Or, just some Iso-Pucks at 1.2".
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
The stands may be 20" without factoring in spikes. Not sure though... Steve will be getting the stands as soon as they are available.
@666chew
Жыл бұрын
@@AudiophileJunkie Hey there. Thanks for that speedy reply and Happy Holidays!
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
Same to you!
@Hifiwino
Жыл бұрын
The stands are now available as of yesterday. Now I just need the perfect amp to pair these with.
@truman4956
Жыл бұрын
Love to hear Steve’s thoughts on DIY speakers, specifically some of Troels Gravesen’s designs.
@cremersalex
Жыл бұрын
I had the impression that Steve Guttenberg wasn't all that enthusiastic about the tweeter.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
I don't watch him, but doesn't he like Klipsch? Everyone has different taste profiles and hearing, but that's not a criticism I've heard yet from anyone else I spoke to at the show.
@garyalexander5686
Жыл бұрын
Steve said that that on some recordings these speakers could sound bright. I heard these speakers at CAF 2022. I'd agree with that assessment. I heard them with the HiFi Rose integrated. I'm wondering how they'd sound with a warmish tube amp like a 300B SET?
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
I would blame the room or electronics over the tweeter. As Steve McCormack said... These will uncover exactly what's in the recording and likewise associated gear.
@garyalexander5686
Жыл бұрын
@@AudiophileJunkie That may well be. But there are those who prefer a warmer, more engaging presentation, inaccurate though it may be. That was the impression I came away with at CAF 2022. I'm not saying these aren't excellent speakers. I'm giving serious thought to how they might work for me. I did want to mention that I thought you did a great job with the interview. Steve clearly had a lot to say and you let him say it without constant interruptions. Well done. I should add that I don't agree that the SP 10s sound like the Andrew Jones designed TAD speakers. I've heard both and to my ears they sound very different, with the TADs being my preference. Just my opinion and thanks for doing this.
@crazyprayingmantis5596
Жыл бұрын
He's 80, his hearing is probably shot, I don't take audio advice from people older than 60
@labalo5
Жыл бұрын
Man this has to potential to uproot my horns and maybe even pocket some money in the grand scheme of things. I can’t wait to audition the source points.
@martinslocombe2288
3 ай бұрын
I wonder how they compare to Tannoy dual concentric loudspeakers again you have to be in the sweet spot with them .
@LeoRousseau
Жыл бұрын
Those TAD's were very attractive speakers!
@skip1835
Жыл бұрын
I bought "Wonder Solder" from Steve back in the Mod Squad days - can he recommend what to buy now - although I haven't quite made it all the through my original roll, I'm looking to renew my supply. Love and loved tip toes - still use them under one of my components.
@stevemccormack5483
Жыл бұрын
Hi Skip - Wonder solder is still available from Michael Percy Audio and I still use it regularly. I can also suggest lead-free solder from Oyaide, which may be a bit harder to find. Good luck!
@bigjay1970
Жыл бұрын
Great talk😇
@Powerpickle68
Жыл бұрын
I want to hear them even more now.
@andreemilsen369
Жыл бұрын
I would love 7 of these for my bedlayer speakers in my cinema. Also for atmosduty, but I think they will be a bit big for that🙊
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
Go for it... It's never too big 😉
@andreemilsen369
Жыл бұрын
@@AudiophileJunkie I will probably sound absolutly amazing😊 4 Rythmik F18 subs as a foundation to build upon, or 2 Perlisten D215🙊
@chuckisidro8624
Жыл бұрын
Great video!! I’ve been a fan of dual concentric speakers and I’m considering the Source Point 10s. I just don’t know if these would work well in my room. My room is 13’X15’. I plan to use these with a 45w tube amp.
@jaytejera1164
Жыл бұрын
Asking the same question with a similar sized room.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
The hotel room where I shot the demo video at the show was probably close to those dimensions. They should be ideal, but room treatments ultimately determine more than just the dimensions.
@BogdanWeiss
Жыл бұрын
@22:10 @Steve McCOrmack Pioneer is a Japanese NOT Chinese company !!! ;-)
@carlsitler9071
Жыл бұрын
Do they sound better than the cheaper Magnapan 1.7i?
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
Not in most respects, but the 1.7 with some subs can provide an attractive option... Especially if you're not a metal head.
@tallpaull9367
Жыл бұрын
Heard some criticism, that they are fully Made in China
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
We addressed that in the video. Look at the chapters
@menfallinloveandwomenmakeplans
Жыл бұрын
I have Googled around but I cannot see who you can buy these from. Can anyone help?
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
We mentioned online dealers in the video near the end
@Ghost-Matrix
Жыл бұрын
Hasn't Mofi released this speaker to take peoples minds of the fact that they have a serious lawsuit going on.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
This was started way before the scandal on the mofi music side. I called out the music mofi company in a video, so I understand people may have some issues with the company. However, this review is strictly on the merits of what mofi electronics and Andrew Jones created.
@craigenputtock
Жыл бұрын
Probably not. They probably had it in the works long before then.
@crazyprayingmantis5596
Жыл бұрын
Can they look a little less Tesla cyber truck?
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
In both cases, they are done for a reason.. Maybe even more with the speaker
@labalo5
Жыл бұрын
Use the grills. They are designed that way for a reason. A number of box speakers do the narrow baffle but lately wider baffle are in. Arguably, there’s function to it. AJ flexed on these.
@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549
Жыл бұрын
These are basically 2000 bucks speakers with a 1700 bucks Andy Jones marketing surcharge. I'll pass. Heard them demoed on youtube. Nothing special. I'll pass
@jlo8775
Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that these speakers are manufactured by an unscrupulous company. They’d never get a cent of my money.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
I understand that sentiment, but I also have some sympathy for different divisions of a company unfairly hurting others. I worked with Arthur Andersen and even though I left before the Enron scandal, it was literally just a few individuals (who eventually were found not guilty) that tainted the reputation of the entire firm and others. I called out mofi music in a separate video, but evaluated this on its own merits. I'll let others decide how much they want to hold the electronics division responsible for that music side scandal.
@crazyprayingmantis5596
Жыл бұрын
Yep me either. Mofi are DEAD to me 💀
@anandshah71
Жыл бұрын
So this speaker is little better than a ls50 and anyway need a sub what’s the point. Might as well get a better looking compact ls50 and get a good sealed sub. Jones after so many years experience giving such a average spesker and talking so much on heavy brasing which everyone does anyways. Also if bass is not there what’s the point of so much brasing. Ideally get a Purifi based 2 ( u won’t need a sub )way instead of playing with these toys. This box would not be more than 500$ pair in making rest is margins ,Marketing takes over innovation. If someone says it has bass then give link to klippel measuremt. Also instead of 4K fir jones + amps better buy a Dutch &Dutch 8c that’s a serious speaker. Steve is smc guy who sells amps so can bundle or get 50% off for a review who knows. This world lot of new comers in audio need to realise
@rl9810
Жыл бұрын
These speakers absolutely blow away an LS50. They do not need a sub. The bass was an eye-watering experience with these Mofis.
@sturdyvw
Жыл бұрын
You have a listening comprehension issue.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
I will add that Steve told me (since this interview) that the bass has gotten even better the more he's experienced it and/or break in.
@anandshah71
Жыл бұрын
@@AudiophileJunkie if u hear and comment then I believe otherwise I don’t trust most channels and reviewers
@rejtkc1
Жыл бұрын
CHINESE NO WAY STOP BUYING CHINESE STUFF
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video where this was addressed? Do you own NOTHING from China? These were designed by an American and not constructed to stereotypical cheap Chinese standards. The sentiment to avoid Chinese gear is admirable, but it's hypocrital and knee-jerk to make that a 100% litmus test without any consideration if there are any mfgs left in the U.S. who can even construct this driver.
@msabbarese1
Жыл бұрын
@@AudiophileJunkie if these were $300/pr speakers we expect them to be made offshore...but at these prices, MoFi should manufacture in the USA. Sure, everybody owns Chinese products b/c sometimes it's unavoidable, but not in the speaker market we have USA made speakers. Worst case they get drivers overseas, and manufacture the rest here in states.
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
What facility in the US makes drivers like this?
@msabbarese1
Жыл бұрын
@@AudiophileJunkie I'm not a manufacture of speakers, but I did state "Worst case they get drivers overseas, and manufacture the rest here in states."
@AudiophileJunkie
Жыл бұрын
They might be able to do that, but it would cost a lot more. Unfortunately, the market and our governments have let the ship sail long ago. I tried to run a clothing line and do it all in the USA, so I understand the concept more than most anyone else. I actually put my money where my mouth was, but the margins big department stores want and the bar coding and other things.. Plus consumer's desire for the lowest price.. Made it an impractical venture competing with those having a huge advantage that the government and consumers didn't care about.
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