6 daily flights between Ord-Den. United isn’t gonna like that.
@flaps4038
3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@zachramacci1625
3 жыл бұрын
United will still dominate ohare regardless of southwest
@MQretrolite
3 жыл бұрын
@@zachramacci1625 not gonna be biased, but united is a shit company due to the fact that the flight attendants are kinda iffy, and the company itself has bad reviews. Including frequent delayed or canceled flights. Idk man
@tuolumne9
3 жыл бұрын
@@MQretrolite I’m not sure what you just said
@CO84trucker
3 жыл бұрын
I just compared DEN-ORD nonstop roundtrip flights for Memorial Day weekend and the cheapest fares are just under 240 on United (basic economy, AA & Southwest. Both Frontier & Spirit want over 347 for that same trip with fewer flights offered.
@sportsMike87
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think they’ll struggle they just wont be a king there.
@TheydyGodiva
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think they'll hold a candle to the other mainline carriers operating in ORD, but I definitely think they will give the low-cost airlines a run for their money. A lot of people love Southwest. And a lot of Chicago locals, that live on the north and west sides of the city and outlying suburbs, are probably excited to not have to go all the way down to Midway to take advantage of what southwest has to offer. So yeah, I definitely can see some stiff competition with the low-cost airlines that operate at ORD. And this is all coming from someone who works for one of those said low-cost competitors.
@BabyBang17datruth
3 жыл бұрын
Now Southwest will offer flights between Midway and O’hare
@michaelmitchell5380
3 жыл бұрын
Good one! But don't be surprised as WN has pulled off some pretty remarkable feats in its history. Just think of all the intra-state carriers that have bitten the dust since the 70's. I worked in the travel business for 25 years (even managed a travel agency outside O'Hare) and saw this for myself up close and personal.
@nowee_playzz4931
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest: ok so we’ll be heading from Chicago to Chicago this is going to be a super long flight of oooooooonly 6 minutes! So get comfy and enjoy your flight on souuuuuuuuuuuuthwest airlines!
@jopea8937
3 жыл бұрын
bahahaha
@FrequencyORD
2 жыл бұрын
Seems stupid at first glance
@Travelog
3 жыл бұрын
Have to strongly disagree with you on this one. As a Chicago local currently you’re not factoring in demographics and geography. There’s a very large, affluent flyer-base on the north side that won’t often fly southwest, they feel MDW is just too far (south). Flying out of ORD is huge. And they are willing to pay a price premium for it. If southwest can capture this away from United and American...they can really expand. You also mention that Southwest does well at MDW. They do. Too well. It’s all full. In order to expand they need more slots and gates at MDW and they can’t. I’m guessing MDW will remain the connecting hub in the Midwest, with ORD focusing on point-point travel. There may be some mix-ups, but as a customer I can’t wait, this competition will be nothing but good for us!
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
Very good points! A question about the affluent frequent flyers on the north side of town: wouldn’t they be more likely to stick with UA and AA? Only time will tell if WN can sway some of those travelers...
@Travelog
3 жыл бұрын
@@sanspotter Thanks for the reply! And no I don't think so, though it's possible I'm projecting here. I'm of the honest belief that nobody actually likes American or United :) JetBlue (4 destinations), Delta (7), Alaska (4-5), Frontier (14-20) and Spirit (16-24) all serve ORD to and they do quite fine. Yes it's a fortress hub, but people can and do choose alternatives. Is LUV competing with UAL and AA or these other carriers? As an example on who prefers ORD over MDW...students who go to Northwesters will fly out of ORD (The UofC is MDW). Anyone from Lincoln Park northward, or anything to the west of the city would strongly prefer it, given how the highways/public transit is laid out. It also so happens there's also a large racial/income component (Chicago is the most segregated city in the country) but that's a whole other topic for another day...
@benbaran4517
3 жыл бұрын
@@sanspotter it really depends. If I’m flying with my wife who values the extras, we go with United or American. If I’m taking a trip alone, I would go with southwest every time if it wasn’t such a pain to get to midway.
@TheCriminalViolin
3 жыл бұрын
@@Travelog Actually Washington is the most segregated as of the last data and study I saw, from 2018. Chicago and Atown both were second and third respectively.
@Travelog
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCriminalViolin You may be right, I clearly haven't kept up on my segregation stats it seams! :) Still, I think we can agree it's an issue for sure.
@erickdelko9523
3 жыл бұрын
i love you & been here for a while. however, as a southwest employee i must say, i disagree. BUT we will see. The Southwest effect may stick in ORD just like it did in BWI when USAirways was around.
@WillGrimm623
3 жыл бұрын
Also - Allegiant doesn’t fly to O’Hare - they fly to Rockford 90 minutes away. Allegiant will fly to Midway soon thoigh
@md3800
3 жыл бұрын
Allegiant already flies to MDW
@michaelmitchell5380
3 жыл бұрын
Phew, Allegiant :-p ! They used to fly out of here (KMSN) and were gone within 6 months. That's their mo, here today, gone to...God knows where. Wonder how many people they stick with useless tickets when they bail in the middle of the knight..
@Emurphy212
3 жыл бұрын
3:53 - I think you meant Frontier, Allegiant does not fly to O'Hare
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
They don’t fly to ORD?? My bad - I could’ve sworn they did. 🤦🏼♂️
@josephmiddleton1
3 жыл бұрын
@@sanspotter Allegiant Air fly to MDW Midway
@randomcontentgenerator2331
3 жыл бұрын
Ayyy you have my name
@gregmarquez8720
3 жыл бұрын
@@josephmiddleton1 i wasn't aware they flew out of mdw. When did this happen?
@josephmiddleton1
3 жыл бұрын
@@gregmarquez8720 They have a few routes out of MDW, such as Fort Myers, Asheville, Savannah & a couple others
@davidharris2519
3 жыл бұрын
SWA IS NOT GOING TO STRUGGLE AT ORD AND THEY ARE GOING TO KICK ASS THERE
@jameshenryarchbold5061
3 жыл бұрын
SWA will survive or even thrive at ORD. make book on it!
@stevee1311
3 жыл бұрын
What a weird post, they said the same about ATL, they compete at LAX with UA and AA, just fine. You might fact check before you post, and yes, you meant Frointier and Spirit. Not AY. WN is not leaving MDW, and they only have 20, at the slot controlled ORD, they are just establishing a presence at ORD, they already have plenty of Chicago employees to cover it. I agree with you, you might be totally wrong, WN will continue to do just fine. AY, does have a few flights from MDW.
@hmpstd
3 жыл бұрын
When Southwest started at BWI, it was a major hub for USAirways (which had inherited the hub when it acquired Piedmont). Despite trying to compete with MetroJet, USAirways pretty much lost that battle. I'm not holding my breath, but I wouldn't bet against Southwest at ORD.
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
It’ll definitely be interesting to watch!
@johniii8147
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not really relevant to the conversation that was decades ago completely different scenario now
@zacyoung5406
3 жыл бұрын
US Airways didn’t even really want to compete. Their inherited the hub but had a much more convenient hub that is Philadelphia. They also kept washington DCA on their roster. It was so much better for US Airwarys to drop Baltimore. They needed the out.
@davidharris2519
3 жыл бұрын
metrojet was of offshoot of US airways it was there low cost carrier so it wasnt competing against them since you cant compete against yourself
@johniii8147
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidharris2519 Well that was the problem I was never a low-cost carrier perhaps. It Has the same cost structure As US airways. That’s why they all failed metro jet song express jet for delta ted etc. etc. they didn’t have the cost structure
@gerardlang1356
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest knows exactly what they are doing. Granted, they are a going to be swimming in shark infested waters, but they wouldn’t do this if they didn’t already strategize and know the risks involved. This offers more options for travelers, plus it will force the bigger two to slash prices just to stay competitive. It seems as if SWA was sitting and waiting to strike. They saw the moment, the seized it, and will savor it.
@davidlazarus67
3 жыл бұрын
How will Southwest compete with SanSpotter airlines chicken and rice combos?
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
There is no WAY they’d complete. They wouldn’t dare. 😆
@SuperLQQK
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, seems like SWAs ORD flights are like their IAD flights. Curtesy flights for a loyal crowd at the airport up the road.
@maxlittman7368
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, courtesies for most likely biz travellers.
@JasonB808
3 жыл бұрын
I think Southwest would do well. Customer service on United and American are uh... yeah. If Southwest can keep providing low cost fairs and provide its industry exceeding service, I think people will choose choose Southwest over United or American for the shorter non long haul flights
@jerrybrown3196
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest is NOT the low fare carrier they used to be
@XX-166
3 жыл бұрын
Who is.??? You keep prices too low and they’ll be no planes for your company to fly. At least they still do the free bags unlike the others.
@mikecamcorder3419
3 жыл бұрын
@@XX-166 Spirit and frontier, they are just not as nice to fly on as southwest.
@XX-166
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikecamcorder3419 then that’s an apples and oranges comparison. Southwest is better in more ways then one.
@svscared
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what the OP is referring to here but SWA definitely is still a LCC. They just aren't an ultra low cost carrier like Spirit, Frontier, or Allegiant.
@jackconway6347
3 жыл бұрын
Well I can say this prediction is wrong southwest has fit in just fine here
@WillGrimm623
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest also chose to fly out of Terminal 5 (the current international terminal) which will cause some confusion - that being said, I really think this could work. O’Hare covers are market north of Interstate 290, where a significant portion of Chicagoland’s residents live. Midway is very inconvenient for those people, and this helps southwest conquer a new market. Coming from Chicago, this is a known problem for many
@brooklynforge4591
3 жыл бұрын
I love midway personally hate driving up north thru all that worlds worse traffic that chicago has.
@32k510
3 жыл бұрын
I would have to STRONGLY DISAGREE the beauty about this expansion city ORD is SWA is able to add this destination to their route network at a small financial cost when airline route networks are hurting. Overall SWA is still doing better financially compared to the flagship carriers and blasting the low cost carriers Allegiant & Spirit out the way. Overwhelming SWA continues to have the highest customer satisfaction among all airlines domestically. ORD compliments MDW a SWA strong hold which has its most daily flights. It’s a added layer to help with irregular ops and delays. ORD nonstop service to DEN, BWI, DAL, PHX, and BNA. Service begins February 14, 2021. Most of those connections are SWA bases for crew and have higher volumes of flights to maximize connections for west & east coast destinations.
@ogjk
3 жыл бұрын
It's certainly going to benifit Southwest travelers that originate or terminate in Central and Northwestern Chicago.
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
Let’s hope for their sake that there’s is enough of them!
@jr13227
3 жыл бұрын
As a Northern Chicago resident I’m sticking with United
@ogjk
3 жыл бұрын
@@jr13227 sorry your stuck with united, not a big fan of them sence they merged with my beloved Contenintal and took the worst of United and just made it into a larger airline versus going the other way.
@jr13227
3 жыл бұрын
@@ogjk Yah not a huge fan of the merger (tulip was way better than the globe imo), but United is by far the most convenient if Ord is your home airport and I've never had an issue with them and always have a good experience.
@MarkBrandonAviation
3 жыл бұрын
I remember spotting at Midway. The amount of southwest was insane! So for them to move is crazy
@gregmarquez8720
3 жыл бұрын
With gates opening it makes sense to grab some of the north side share.
@charlesjwin
3 жыл бұрын
They're not "moving" out of ORD- they're using both ORD and Midway simultaneously.
@gregorytripp4052
3 жыл бұрын
That’s just his damn opinion
@charlesjwin
3 жыл бұрын
No, it's a FACT that they're: not "moving" from Midway. No opinion changes THAT reality.
@andrew3084
3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesjwin you're correct
@EricRhine
3 жыл бұрын
Several corrections. Fortress hub - you mentioned many times Ohare is a fortress hub for AA & UA. Chicago is not a fortress hub for either airline, mainly because it is a hub for both airlines, In order to be a fortress hub, an airline needs to have an overwhelming market share. Therefore, an airport that is a hub for multiple airlines cannot be a fortress hub. Suffice to say, it is a large hub for both airports. Gate space - Southwest had to use the common use gates in the international terminal because all of Chicago’s other domestic gates are leased out to other airlines. No airline would be willing to sub-lease their own gates to Southwest. Also, I think you are forgetting that DL will be moving to the international terminal once the T5 extension is completed. Therefore, Southwest’s presence in the international terminal is totally irreverent . I think it’s important to keep in mind that O’Hare has been a weaker performing hub (on a margin basis) for AA for a while. Profitable, but on the lower end of their hub spectrum. Also important to keep in mind that Southwest is huge in the Chicago area given their presence at Midway. They actually carry more domestic passengers out of Midway than AA at Ohare. Therefore, brand recognition in Chicago is high. I actually believe Southwest will do well in Chicago, especially given the weakened position of both AA and UA during covid.
@MABeltran86
3 жыл бұрын
Yea this Sanspotter got his research from his cat. This guy doesn’t even know what’s going on at O’Hare terminal 5 is expanding terminal 1 they are building a new concourse and making terminal 1 also an international terminal for all star alliance flight. This guy is dumb
@jonpatterson
3 жыл бұрын
Always love the random Regina reference!
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
I’m worried that it’s getting too played out now... 😅
@jonpatterson
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if that's possible. You could always use "Sydney... not that one, the other one, the older one in Atlantic Canada." But, its not as short and quippy haha
@jeffsey500
3 жыл бұрын
I think everyone needs to experience Regina kzitem.info/news/bejne/mGp4m5-DhYCVaIY
@295g295
3 жыл бұрын
Regina International Airport (YQR) www.yqr.ca/en/regina-airport-authority/airport-improvement/current-projects
@gregmarquez8720
3 жыл бұрын
Theyre going to after the big yellow bus. They don't have deeper pockets than ua and aa. Take out the yellow bus and then take their gate space. I think there's a market at ord. I live in Chicago and really think mdw is outdated. Its easy to get in and out of but thats all its got. I welcome the new routes at ord and having more options.
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
I’d be pretty excited about it if I lived in Chicago as well. I’ve never been a big fan of MDW! They’ve got their work cut out for them, but you’re right about putting pressure on Spirit and ignoring the other guys.
@DirtyBlueshirtAU
3 жыл бұрын
Since Houston is similar to Chicago (Where IAH is United-dominated and HOU is Southwest's own playground), what are your thoughts there?
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
I’m not as familiar with IAH, but my thought is that it’s going to be easier since there’s only one mega-carrier (UA) to fight against. Going after both UA and AA at ORD (a fortress hub for both no less) will be tough.
@jr13227
3 жыл бұрын
@@sanspotter I think aa is slowly becoming less loyal to ord
@That_Millenial_Guy
3 жыл бұрын
Regina doesn’t rhyme with fu-ohhhhhhhh
@charlesnicholson7539
3 жыл бұрын
I hope Southwest gains marketshare at ORD, people will get lower fares and better service. Win-win!
@tyrosenberg1
3 жыл бұрын
One midway is way too small and two ohare is getting a huge renovation in the next few years in clouding a new international terminal and more concourses
@whiskers78753
3 жыл бұрын
I fly Southwest because they don't fly out of ORD, IAH, JFK, DFW, etc. Moving to airports like ORD will thin their schedules at airports I prefer to fly out of (or make connections through).
@jr13227
3 жыл бұрын
They said their MDW service isn’t gonna change
@nowee_playzz4931
3 жыл бұрын
I flew spirit to Florida on March 12 at 6 am. Bro. Bro. I’m going to Guatemala for the second time! But! With all of my cousins and fav cousins and family! DUDE. non of my cousins have Ben there! Also…. I’m flyin duh 777 for the second time too. With is American Airlines. I took a 777 to Guatemala also. So yes 😂🤩🤩🤩🤩 me excited :D
@davidharris2519
3 жыл бұрын
UNITEDs SERVICE IS GOING DOWNHILL and SWA is not a fly by night carrier there into ATL competing against DL,,,SWA researches the cities they go into Spirit competes with UA and AA on a number of there routes
@DCAviation170
3 жыл бұрын
AMAZING VIDEO!!! This really reminds of southwest starting service to Washington Dulles, with already having a hub at BWI and lots of flights coming out of DCA. As always amazing video and left a massive like!!
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It’s definitely going to be interesting to see how they do at ORD. I could be totally wrong about all of this. 👍🏻👍🏻
@Sacto1654
3 жыл бұрын
I think Southwest started flights out of IAD because a lot of companies have established operations between that airport and downtown Washington, DC. And unlike DCA, it doesn't have a flight distance limit, too.
@johniii8147
3 жыл бұрын
Not really related as that was a long time ago
@TheydyGodiva
3 жыл бұрын
I'm inclined to disagree here. I think Southwest will do well here at ORD. A lot of customers adore Southwest because of their reasonable fares and checked bag policy, among other things. Many Chicago locals, who enjoy flying Southwest, mostly live on the north and west sides of the city as well as the outlying suburbs. O'Hare is actually a more convenient airport for a lot of Chicagoans in terms of location and access. So for most of the traveling public in Chicago who like flying Southwest, knowing that there's an option to fly from an airport closer to home, this is a big deal and something that will bring a lot of passenger traffic to ORD. Not to mention the competition that it will bring to the other low-cost carriers operating in ORD. Most of those customers who book on low-cost airlines from ORD are doing it out of convenience because they want a cheap fare from that airport. Many of them would prefer to fly Southwest, but the commute to MDW is just too inconvenient to justify booking on Southwest. So they book on airlines like Spirit and Frontier because it's a cheap ticket, and it's at O'Hare. But that all changes now that Southwest is in the picture here. We shall see how things play out. It'll definitely be interesting to see what happens in the immediate future for sure though.
@den-ramperwn9670
3 жыл бұрын
I am excited to be going into ORD with Southwest. The routes out of Southwest are: BWI, BNA, DAL, DEN, PHX which are some of the heaviest routes out of Midway currently too. Midway doesn’t have the room to grow either, so good idea still. I am one of the ramp agents heading there in a months time to open ORD and I am beyond excited!
@speedbird5280
3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! I’ll actually be on the DEN-ORD inaugural, looking forward to it!
@stoehrcov
3 жыл бұрын
Scott you have some excellent points. As a guy who has lived off of two runways at O'Hare, I welcome Southwest and only good can come from this. Midway is 90 minutes drive on a good day and parking is non existent. United and American are marginal at best. Choice is good!
@hyperkid321
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the only reason why I think southwest is starting flights out of O’hare is so they could access the immigration facility’s located in Terminal 5 so they could launch flights to international destinations in the Caribbean, because they can’t do it out of midway airport I guess. It would also explain the temporary feel to it as it might just be a place holder as they upgrade midway to handle international flights just like Houston Hobby and Dallas Love Field.
@chrisstromberg6527
3 жыл бұрын
We fly to international destinations to and from Midway!
@nowee_playzz4931
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest: ok so we’ll be heading from Chicago to Chicago this is going to be a super long flight of oooooooonly 6 minutes! So get comfy and enjoy your flight on souuuuuuuuuuuuthwest airlines!
@jakegrant272
3 жыл бұрын
1) Allegiant doesn't fly to O'Hare, maybe you're thinking of Frontier? 2) WN turns 200+ flights a day out of MDW, this is a natural bracketing of the market 3) There's no concourse/gates left for them to "take over," so of course they have to use common use gates I think Occam's Razor applies here - they can definitely do alright with a decent amount of service to some major outposts, and not be destroyed by UA/AA or chase them out, either.
@TheFkryrtsv
3 жыл бұрын
Your cat looks like Emma Stone :D (great video btw)
@alexknoll3265
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest should've considered heading up I-90 to Rockford (KRFD), a top cargo airport with room for more passenger airlines.
@XX-166
3 жыл бұрын
No ones using that airport for southwest flights. The demographics wouldn’t support the Rockford area VS midway and Ohare.
@thestrangeman069
3 жыл бұрын
Let’s be real, nobody is going to want to fly into RFD. People will prefer MKE or MDW/ORD
@redstone51
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest did not get to be a domestic and growing giant by making stupid business decisions! American and United Airlines are walking a thin business line. I welcome American and United to try to undercut Southwest Airlines. Besides, Southwest has far less to lose with regards to overhead. Nothing would make me happier than to watch those 2 airlines run into financial difficulties as a result of their arrogance, their operating costs along with the outrageous expectations from the various airport unions, not to mention the increasing airport service expenditures, just might be enough to make them eat humble pie. I wish SWA would lease 2 or 3 777's or 787's and open some European routes. Ryanair, watch out! LOL
@abbasrizvi9389
3 жыл бұрын
I dont think they will struggle. They are very successful and continue to be that!!! For us who live near ord, it doesnt make sense to drive all the way to MDW. Its another option for Northsiders!!
@skiparkcityut
3 жыл бұрын
This isn't southwest airlines of the 1990s. There will be enough inbound passengers headed closed to ord from their focus cities. Also southwest is such a well established and known brand in the area. We are not taking about a huge offering at ord, just a presence.
@Nathan.Klemstein
3 жыл бұрын
ORD is nice in the fact that it's pretty big and convent for a lot of people. The push to a larger airport (MDW kind of small) could handle a larger jet in the feature. The 737 program will eventually slow down. And I believe southwest has show interest in the new narrow body longer range concept by Boeing. (797/NMA). But overall I hope and think that it will help southwest expand even more. Also If Southwest can get some more corporations to fly their people on Southwest primarily hen and if travel increases, ORD is the place to do it from.
@chrismckellar9350
3 жыл бұрын
it seems that Southwest is using O'Hare as a secondary destination not a primary destination and its is not about competing with the big three airlines. Its obvious Southwest has seen a good market in/out of O'Hare not a high demand market, done the number crunching, hence check in and gate sharing.
@flyingwithblue1694
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest could do very well with ORD travelers unimpressed with product offered by the competition. If there is very little differentiation, why not shop around and fly with Southwest. I think Southwest has a fair chance.
@davidharris2519
3 жыл бұрын
SPIRIT IS THERE AND NOT HAVING ANY PROBLEMS SO IS FRONTIER
@michaelmitchell5380
3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't disagree more! I fly Southwest out of Milwaukee (Chicago's 3rd airport) all the time and they run like a well oiled machine. Like BWI, they came in as the underdog and now dominate the market. On the contrary, Southwest is going to keep laggard carriers, like United and American, on their toes. And don't get me started on Spirit and the rest of those "fly-by-night" wannabees. You never heard about passenger melt-downs on Southwest. Yes, they "Love To Fly" and it shows in everything they do. P.S. No, I don't work for Southwest, but I'd love to play one on TV. LOL
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
I assumed you as a Southwest employee as soon as I read “disagree”. 😂 (just kidding of course). Anyway, WN doesn’t often fail when moving into a new market so I could very well be wrong about my assumptions. I can’t wait to see how this unfolds!
@alix5704
3 жыл бұрын
I'm part of the untapped market that Southwest will access by going to O'Hare. I don't live that far from O'Hare, but I live a LONG, road-congested commute from Midway. I'd take Southwest out of O'Hare and not out of Midway. In fact, I've never flown Southwest for that reason. Also, American Airlines is rumored to be having serious problems, and nobody really likes the Unfriendly Skies. I'd say in this case, more competition is a good thing.
@rachelmcclain5367
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know the news apparently, because Southwest is my favorite airline and ORD is my home airport. I need to get out of this rock I'm living under
@porcelainthunder2213
3 жыл бұрын
They know what they are doing. They've done it before. SW has a major hub at BWI near DC. They also serve DCA (Reagan) which is a small airport in the middle of Washington DC. Add to that, they ALSO serve IAD (Dulles). All were doing well before the virus. All three essentially serve the same market, and are within a half hour to an hour of each other. Part of it is for customer convenience and part of it is for connections to international flights.
@supejc
3 жыл бұрын
You do realize United is going to struggle in the post-pandemic era right? Business travel was their main lifeline. Business travel is dead now. They punch doctors and stuff too. Southwest will come out on top. Haters gonna hate.
@2BWalmsley
3 жыл бұрын
I think that southwest is going to get a lot of passengers at ORD but it is going to be hard to get out of ORD
@unsaid706
3 жыл бұрын
Sanspotter: It'll be hard to wedge themselves into the base of 2 major carriers. So we're all gonna ignore that American, United, Delta, Jetblue, Allegiant, Alaska, and Spirit has a base in LAX and yet Southwest still managed to set up a base?
@lrg3834
3 жыл бұрын
A few thoughts for you, Scott. Southwest is already a dominant carrier at Chicago Midway. However, Midway is not a significant international airport where you can feed overseas-destined traffic from spoke cities. I don't think Southwest wants to compete directly with anybody at O'Hare. The airline just wants to offer a comprehensive international feeder option for some of its connecting passengers.
@jshotwell454
3 жыл бұрын
United and American both offer extremely competitive fares to and from ORD. (I fly to Chicago all the time). I wish SWA luck. :)
@dewiz9596
3 жыл бұрын
SWA will pull it off. No problem
@AndrewTubbiolo
3 жыл бұрын
I used to fly the redeye from Phoenix to ORD on Frontier with service to Terminal 5. Plane spotting the big iron of the world first thing in the AM? Yes. It works! Conversely taking the 8PM flight from ORD back to PHX set up an evening of plane spotting in Terminal 5. I HIGHLY recommend it. It's the best way to get into ORD's international terminal. I'd never see the Jordanian or Norwegian 787 in person otherwise. I wonder if they're going to offer non-stop service to Midway? Beats paying the toll's on the Illinois highway system, half the cash booths are closed anyway and you have to pay online.
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
I agree about the good plane spotting from within T5. Lots of neat stuff to see up close!
@ELEVrjATOR
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest started a hub at DCA a few years ago, and now they serve quite a few odd destinations from there. They compete with American from DC to my hometown of Providence.I have flown on southwest to DC 4 times. It’s cheaper, quicker (they don’t seem to get delayed), and even though the times are bad it is a much better experience overall. I think they have a good chance in ORD.
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully I’m wrong and they actually do well in Chicago - more competition between the big players is always a good thing!
@raulsscano
3 жыл бұрын
First congratulations going to ORD playing with the big kids. 2nd great market and stress relief for Midway 3rd what airline will survive w out the help of the government..I think SWA will.
@plasticscouser3791
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest using O'hare nothing surprises me , all Airlines & airports right now are in the S H 1 T . Maybe the owners of O'hare made them an offer they would be fools to turn down . Once we all get the correct vaccine soon and we can return to the skies wouldn't that be icing on the aviation cake . Bring it on . Keep the chin up Good man yourself ! Yours Christy ( Limerick , Ireland )
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yes - I hadn’t considered the possibility of ORD offering them a sweet deal they couldn’t refuse. It’s an interesting plot twist!
@simondavey7787
3 жыл бұрын
I hear rumours of EasyJet looking at Heathrow routes; it’s always an interesting drama to see budget carriers at major hubs. When can I buy a ticket for SanSpotter airlines? There’s tumult in Downing Street - perhaps it’s time for SanSpotternomics to be the new political wave? All joking aside, I hope you are well and staying safe. I’m look forward to seeing you in the air again soon and maybe to buying you dinner one day. Much love from Reading in the UK.
@sportsMike87
3 жыл бұрын
Something I’d never thought I’d see
@novelero03
2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a lot of folks speaking here are from the north side of Chicago based on their comments because I say the same thing, only about O'Hare. It is a HASSLE to get to that airport and traffic to the north side is RIDICULOUS! I prefer flying out of Midway ANY given day and fortunately, when I visit my family and parents to México, I fly out from Midway too. Southwest is just looking to expand more its market because Midway is already full.
@arturozendejas3206
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest (SW) strategy has always been like a termite or parasite (in the good sense) in that they start small by getting a couple of slots at an airport, pick that business traveled route that gives the high load and higher fare recovery and crowd out the other airports in the terminal and eventually take over. That is how SW now run Houston Hobby, Chicago Midway and other airports. I saw that here in Long Beach, less than 4 years ago SW arrived which was predominately a Jet Blue hub and as of October of this year, SW now have swooped up all the gate spaces. The routes that got them on track business and leisure destinations, the Sacramento (State Capitol) to Long Beach, Vegas to Long Beach and Phoenix to Long Beach all currently connecting hubs on their network to other destinations but also competing with JetBlue. All SW will do is tie into their basic route structure with not much adjustment by staying in their own lane yet take over one or two existing lanes from the other big carrier that you didn't mention...Delta which has a minor presence there probably knocking them out of ORD in 2-4 years. I also feel they are trying to knock out Spirit Airlines in this move and establish some international Caribbean routes in the near future.
@johnp139
3 жыл бұрын
I hate O’Hare because of all of the stupid delays due to overwhelming traffic and weather. That’s why Midway is so much better (traffic wise).
@RO-ob2dw
3 жыл бұрын
People always tried to count southwest out. You are making the same mistake,
@bryant07681
3 жыл бұрын
You have to take into account that O'Hare Big construction project is going on to expand terminal 5 at O'Hare. They must be projecting something we all cannot see.
@girishglg
3 жыл бұрын
Hi San good cautiously optimistic view of SW ORD expansion. Just one thing for sure they think well before any such move, maybe it's just to bleed others some more, anyways they have Midway to fall back upon. Also helps pax who have to take a connecting flight. Let's see...
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
True true - I can’t wait to see what the situation is going to be 2-3 years from now. 👀🍿
@ordmoslli8711
3 жыл бұрын
Me Ord I'm Boy
@sportsMike87
3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t enter ord to be a king they entered ord to get a toe in the water there
@danburnette7674
Жыл бұрын
Southwest my guess more then likely received an incentive by Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot to start operations at ORD. Could have been multiple incentives. I worked for Southwest for 16 plus years and keep in touch with a couple of my old cronies i worked @ MDW with who are @ ORD and Southwest has kept a 25 to 30 plus a day Flight Schedule. I could see it going up to 40 with the new gates that they recently relocated to. Southwest is making money at ORD though i have heard that it's not much fun flying out of ORD with just about every airline. Southwest will never be the King Fish of ORD but has and will get its Lions Share of The Business.
@SOCALAVIATION2K
3 жыл бұрын
To be honest IDK how they are going to do.But one thing that confuses me is that for the IAH and ORD expansion is that nearby they have 2 airports that have very strong southwest operations at MDW and HOU why would they need to expand? I get it if its because they are doing this just to add more routes but for financial reasons or other reasons i dont know
@tadeuszlufik
Жыл бұрын
The points made seem valid but the counterpoints are arguably just as strong. I used SWA despite living right outside of ORD for almost a decade and it was a pain. To have them at ORD is wonderful and to be honest, Midway isnt in the greatest part of town - O'Hare is more central to Chicagoland. Once people know what Southwest is, I think it's effect will spread like it has in other places. Im rooting for SWA. Their economy class product is more premium without any gotchas compared to any other airline. Their entry service routes were to other SWA focus cities where people could facilitate travel across the country to anywhere SWA flies. SWA isnt a business airline, but they arent just a 'lets go to the beach' niche leisure airline like Allegiant is either. A good point was made about Spirit though and lately Frontier has bringin the fight to SWA at MDW.
@hansbaraka7439
3 жыл бұрын
Yayy more travel vids at least we didnt turn into a lawn care channel
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
Not yet anyway. The pandemic is far from over... 😬😬😆
@haroldaranda8042
2 жыл бұрын
I also disagree. SWA won't be winning traffic on product or pricing. They are expanding in markets that they already serve (Chicago, Houston, So Florida) by serving the adjacent hub airport like they do in the markets I mentioned. Same logic that is used to serve LAX Los Angeles, while also serving Burbank, Long Beach and Ontario.
@razorxavier984
3 жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree. They will survive at ORD as a domestic carrier and will crack the O’Hare nut. Both AA and UA hubs will drop there domestic travel rates to match up with WN and other airlines like G4, F9, B6, and NK. As far as international flights, AA and UA will continue to compete with other the international airlines that fly in and out of the US from ORD. In 10 to 20 years I see the low cost airlines taking over a good majority of the domestic travel around the states. This Leaving most of the big carriers like AA, UA, DL as long haul international and domestic travel flights. Remember WN is rumored to be inquiring about adding into or changing its fleet with the new A320 jet series. We shall see...
@PontoonStriperFishin
3 жыл бұрын
The video quality is outstanding...what camera are you using to film this?
@stevenlapidus5939
3 жыл бұрын
What is it with everyone loving Southwest Airlines? Flow them twice from Milwaukee to Las Vegas, not a big fan of the way they board people. Not having a screen in the seat in front of you was dreadful as well. I would much rather fly Delta airlines anyplace. American and United will destroy Southwest at ORD. If Midwest was not merged into Frontier, Southwest would have been killed in Milwaukee as well. I will never again fly Southwest that boarding process made me feel like I was cow. I also like pre selecting my seat, I was not able to get a window on one of the Southwest flights. Hopefully when Midwest Express returns Southwest will leave Milwaukee ASAP.
@unlimtedsw1shgaming267
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it'll be a major struggle. Southwest started flying to Denver in 2006. DEN is a hub for United and Frontier is headquarted in Denver so they have a large operation there. Southwest slowly wedged their way into the market and now they have a very large operation at DEN and occupy most of concourse C. It'll be an uphill battle but not a major struggle- they've done this before.
@zacyoung5406
3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised a lot of people are consistently defending Southwest here. SWAs flight schedules have become a lot more random and not very convenient at all if you’re flying from a major city that isn’t a SWA focus hub. Their prices are not that cheap at all anymore too. I’ve found that the legacy carries are better and more convenient - and sometimes even cheaper. If anything, I think Frontier has better pricing and times. Spirit is still pretty bottom of the barrel & I don’t consider them competition to SWA. If southwest wants to start winning back their customers who now favor other LLCs, they need to fix their schedules.
@timkennedy9541
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm...what international airlines fly out of MDW? That would be Porter and Volaris. Since Volaris also flies out of ORD (at Terminal 5), could Midway be entering a codeshare agreement with them?
@evananthony7339
3 жыл бұрын
Hate to burst your bubble but it wasn’t SWA who wanted to fly to ORD it was the loyal customers that want both options in Chicago! 🤷♂️ so loyal customers filling aircraft equals a successful move by SWA!
@disneyfan9099
3 жыл бұрын
I booked the 1st southwest flight into ORD. It’s from BWI to ORD on FEB 14
@jimmydelrio8662
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest is my favorite airline. I will take them over any other airline, even if it means long layover
@ryanridder4576
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Southwest has ever served O’Hare before and I know it ain’t gonna be easy. Not sure if they ever served Miami, but they used to serve Houston Bush Intercontinental many years ago but they stopped that back in 2005
@the11fan33
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t bet against southwest, but on another note the JetBlue expansion into EWR and LAX! JetBlue seriously is setup for some big growth if they can keep these airports, and then they will be setup when they start Europe service! Gotta love JetBlue!
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s an interesting topic for a whole other video. Exciting to see Jetblue expand!
@KuostA
7 ай бұрын
**********LOOKS LIKE YOU WERE WRONG. NOW WHAT? ARE YOU GOING TO WALK THIS BACK OR CONCEDE THAT YOU WERE WRONG?******
@joewaldo1
3 жыл бұрын
they're not going to struggle. do you realize how many of us hate going to midway? they're serving solid routes and they've got the free baggage thing going for them. Also currently all the mainline service out of o'hare is garbage right now. as far as schedule. So having more options right now is a plus. Also o'hare is under a major reservation, yes they're sharing terminal 5 now but i highly doubt that they're going to stick with that once the new terminals open.
@LplusRatioplusNobodyCares
3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna disagree with you on this one. ORD is much more convenient to get to than Midway. And people will pay for the customer service and convenience of ORD.
@markhugg
3 жыл бұрын
No one would dare to compete with SANspotter Airways! I imagine in business class you would get a welcome chicken and rice meal even before takeoff. 🤣
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
And complimentary red shoes instead of amenity kits of course. 😁
@markhugg
3 жыл бұрын
@@sanspotter Red shoes for the red carpet. A brilliant idea! We should be fashion designers. 😂
@whiskerboii2466
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you stray away from Midway, where you've established yourself as the largest airline there. This venture really makes no sense, especially with business travel not likely to return to pre-pandemic level for years.
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I think (from what I’m hearing), they are trying to capture residents on the north side of town who find getting to MDW inconvenient.
@charlesjwin
3 жыл бұрын
Serveral airlines utilize multiple airports in the NYC and LA and SF Bay markets, so it's not that surprising that someone might do the same in Chicago.
@Lil-Tee1988
3 жыл бұрын
Market share.
@tylerwhite3746
3 жыл бұрын
Southwest should add the Boeing 787-8 to their fleet, just have a two aircraft fleet Boeing 737MAX and the 787-8.
@ryankenyon5010
3 жыл бұрын
They can't do quick turns there. Midway is closer to everything anyway.
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s going to get real interesting once ORD gets busy again after the pandemic. We’ll see what happens!
@bigez954
3 жыл бұрын
We know what we are doing, we wouldn't have announced it if we didn't think it was going to be successful. When United and AA have the majority of the air routes they set their own prices. When we come in with low fares they open their eyes.
@briandelaroy1670
3 жыл бұрын
Chicago O’Hare into airport is the United main hub and their HQ as well. Were as American is DFW as well as their HQ.
@chrisstromberg6527
3 жыл бұрын
You know, they said the same thing when we started service to DEN, SFO, LGA. Whatever dude!
@badgerattoadhall
3 жыл бұрын
Regina "the city that rhymes with fun" i spit out my tea.
@spencerspock
3 жыл бұрын
I wish SouthWest would come to Greensboro but I can see why they won’t. I think you are right about them going to ORD.
@sanspotter
3 жыл бұрын
Who knows? I think it could happen eventually....
@svscared
3 жыл бұрын
Well as of now they already offer flights to 12 different destinations from there so it would appear that this video didn't age well.
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