Thanks for another interesting video. I never knew what AC stood for.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
We like to share junk history when we can !
@chrischiampo7647
7 ай бұрын
Sooo Cool Plug Collection Mr Obsolete I’ve Got Some of Those Early Champion Plugs That Come Apart Too Clean Model A Buzzbox Plugs 😊😀😊 Champion Plug C-4 😀
@TheNorvikWay
7 ай бұрын
Great video and very interesting Mr Obsolete 👍 ....thanks for sharing.....👍🤙
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment and for watching.
@glenclark3733
7 ай бұрын
Interesting thanks sir have a good week
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. We finally have some good weather, so the week will be great.
@mikedaugharty5544
7 ай бұрын
thanks for the very interesting video
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@liljoeii6091
7 ай бұрын
Awesome video I enjoyed it very much.Years ago I bought Champion plugs and they would burn out in my car. I had a guy bet me that if I he bought me another set of champion plugs and I could prove it to him that they would burn out he bought me auto light plugs I won the bet even when I try them in my lawn mowers or tractors they burn out I only use Auto lights now my dad was a mechanic and he got me hooked on them thank you for the video
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
At one time Champion plugs were the largest selling spark plugs in the world, and were really good. When the family sold out, they had a long slow decline till nearly going out of business. The new owners never spent any money on research and development. Gasoline and engines changed and Champion never took the time to upgrade their products to meet the changes and slowly went downhill, and became a minor player in the spark plug market. Thanks for the nice comment and for watching.
@jeffreyrubish347
7 ай бұрын
Very interesting!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@EightWheelsRollin
7 ай бұрын
Great history lesson on spark plugs, I enjoyed it! Some of the brands you highlighted were new to me. Gladiator, American Eagle (I know them as a wheel manufacturer) and First American were companies I had never heard of. The Rentz intensifier and Tungsten plugs were very cool! Great video!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
It is amazing how many brands of spark plugs that were made over the years, and all the weird and funny designs that were good, poor and ridiculous. Thanks for the nice comment and for watching.
@EightWheelsRollin
7 ай бұрын
When manufacturers are trying to figure things out and make a name for themselves, things can get weird and ridiculous, ha ha. It's fun to look back on it all. All the best to you!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@IowaPerformanceSaws
7 ай бұрын
I had one of the lead engineers for Champion at their plant here in Iowa come visit me recently as a chainsaw customer- and we had a very interesting conversation about the future of plugs. He said that they are investing heavily into new plug designs and technology as they believe that the government push for electric will fail with abundance. Their research suggests we're nowhere near ready for the grid shift in usage and that internal combustion engines will still be around for a while longer than we are led to believe.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
The electric vehicle scam is just a bunch of crap. There is a bunch of effort to make new fuels for internal combustion engines, which makes a lot more sense. There are also many new inventions in the world of combustion engines in the effort to make them much more efficient. We had a customer that had worked for Champion for most of his working career, and said it was one of the best places to work in the country. After the family sold out, the company was mismanaged so badly that they were assembling Nippon Denso spark plugs to stay in business. The product line wasn't upgraded to meet the changes in fuel and engine designs, as little was spent on research and development.
@IowaPerformanceSaws
7 ай бұрын
I thought it was interesting as he actually referenced a point you made about platinum- he said decades ago they lost the ability to patent it and NGK capitalized on it. After that, Champion spiraled into the junk we know it as today. He says- in his opinion- that they fully understand the state of their reputation and will be making significant strides towards changing their products and position as a leader. It'll be interesting to see if it materializes. Excellent video by the way- this sort of evolutionary info is exactly what makes internal combustion engines so fascinating and the story behind each of these players involved.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for such a nice comment. History is so fascinating, and to combine it with the collecting and using vintage equipment makes for a really great hobby.
@johnclarke6647
7 ай бұрын
Got my MAC 32-16 running, today. It had a broken oil line and someone had set the carb to run all to ric- not me. It is now running and oiling fine. In fact it slobbers bar oil. I had to clean out its case because it was full of bar oil. I now have it full of fresh Stihl Moto Mix and it runs fine on it, even though Stihl says it is 50:1, but it has enough oil for 40:1 engines. I put it in most of my saws, weed eaters, blowers, hedge trimmers, etc. my home brew is 45:1 Stihl Ultra. I won’t spit for the difference between the two.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
I am not familiar with the Mac 32-16. It could be a remnant from the Italian McCulloch factory, or just another Poulan in disquise. I would recommend you watch some videos from Richard Flagg, a pro saw mechanic. He has been testing a number of 2 stroke oils, and the Stihl oils are some of the worst. I think you might find it interesting.
@johnclarke6647
7 ай бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 it is basically an Eager Beaver type. It was made in the 1990’s before they folded. This saw is immaculate, almost brand new and with a MAC case. After running my 19.5” Stihl saws with .325 chain, this saw is almost a toy with its 3/8 LP chain. Not a hell of a lot different from the butter bars and chains on those Poulan Wild Things. It has a primer bulb and chain break on it.
@johnclarke6647
7 ай бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 I know Richard, but I do not agree with his assumptions. If you will note every saw that he has problems with are Memtronic (computer controlled). My opinion about Memtronic or Accutune saws are not dissimilar to my opinion of his assumptions. I have one Memtronic saw, a MS 241 CM, that has given me nothing but problems. That is why it sits on the shelf in my shop. It would probably be a good saw with an adjustable carb on it. However, I don’t like 16” saws. I like 18”-20” saws, 24” if I need it. If I need a 16” saw I have a brand new MS 180 and MS 170 and they dot make a saw lighter than the MS 170. However my favorite is my Stihl 021 and either it or my Stihl 024 come with 18”, really 19.5”, with .325 chain. If I need more saw the I can get my MS250, Stihl 025 or MS 260Pro. Generally, my Stihl 021 will handle most work that I need to do, these days. That tree you cut down with your 034 could have easily been cut down and up with my 021 or 024. I have plenty of big saws but I seldom use them unless cutting big stuff. The last real workout they got was on some 25” hickory a couple of years ago. They cut down and up a half dozen of these. You just do not need as much bar as some people think. I cut down a hundreds of trees with 16” .325 bars and chains and they were not saplings, either. I have cut down and up a many a 24” oak with a 16” bar. Sure, a longer bar would have helped but I still got them safely on the ground and the rounds in the back of my truck.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
I did some looking on the Mac 3216 saw, and it is laid out completely different than the Mini Mac's are. The layout looks to be based on the Italian McCulloch designs to me.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
The only way I would get a saw that has electronic fuel and ignition controls would be if it was given to me. I would never buy one. My $1.95 screwdriver works best for me for fuel management on my carb's. Most tree work can be done with smaller saw, but I prefer using my mid sized saws with longer bars, as I always have the reserve power if needed, and I don't have to bend over as much with the longer bars.
@johnclarke6647
7 ай бұрын
Stihl and others are using 14MM plugs on some saws, now, primarily CMR6H and USR7AC. I use the Bosch USR7AC, because it survives being flooded better than the NGK, CMR6H.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
Since almost all of my saws are vintage, they all use 1/2"x14mm plugs, some with a tapered seat, but most with a gasket. I run one range hotter plug than recommended, as the spark plug charts were printed back when we had good gasoline. Using the plug that the chart says results in the plugs getting crudded up a lot quicker.
@johnclarke6647
7 ай бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 my oldest saws were built in the 1980’s, most 1990’s. The one thing I require of a saw is reliability, especially ease of cranking and constant running. I hate to see someone crank up a saw, set it down for a moment or two and have to recrank it, again, before they can continue using it. I see this all the time on UTube. When I crank a saw they better stay running until I shut them off, regardless of temperature or conditions.
@johnclarke6647
7 ай бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 I guess you can tell that I run my saws a tad lean on the L side and a tad rich on the H side. I hate to hear a saw surging in the cut. My saws keep a constant RPM in the cut or I get out my little screwdriver and richen up the H side until they do. That, is how I learned to tune a saw.
@johnclarke6647
7 ай бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 u use WSR6F Bosch plugs in any saw that will take them. They are 18mm plugs. The 14 mm plugs are USR7AC. All gapped at .020, right by the book. Bosch plugs last longer than NGK, IMHO. I very seldom replace a plug, these days, unlike in the old days running 32:1-40:1 with oils of that era. My plugs may have a slight carbon wash on them but they still fire. Run them hard for an hour and that carbon wash disappears, but at almost 79 I usually do not work for a solid hour, anymore.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
Reliability and performance are the two things I want from a work saw. My McCulloch 610's have been my main work saws for over 40 years. I have never done anything other that routine maintenence and carb work and bars and chains on them.The 610's unique exhaust port makes them easy to pull through also. The hardest saws to pull through are my Lombards and Stihls.
@robertgoth5570
7 ай бұрын
Very very interesting!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@tedneitzel
7 ай бұрын
Good stuff lots of different old plugs! Hell i don't know what to buy anymore since they are all made in China! Bosch got rid of the green stripe and is blue now so China! Ngk China! So i got all different kinds in all my saws and weedeaters! Autolight in my Husky commercial weedeater and one of my smaller saws can't remember which one. Ngk in some and Bosch and Champion! They all always start when i need them so i guess thats all that counts anymore to hell with quality!
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
It is terrible to see all good companies sell out and have their products made in china. I have mainly used NGK plugs over the years, with excellent results.. I always bought them in bulk, and when they start to get dirty, I use my spark plug cleaner on them, and get years of extra use doing that. I haven't bought any plugs for quite awhile, so I don't have any chinese plugs in my inventory.
@jreed2447
7 ай бұрын
I haven't had to much trouble with champion plugs. The plugs i throw out is torch and walmart auto lights plugs .I'm too cheap to buy ngk but vintage stuff is the best and new is pooh
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
I quit using Champion plugs many years ago since they just didn't work. They most likely have improved them since then, but the NGK plugs have always been outstanding. In my chainsaws and small gas engines, when the plugs get crappy, I just use my spark plug cleaner on them and get many more years of use as a result. The Chinese plugs are absolute junk.
@johnclarke6647
7 ай бұрын
I clean of carbon from spark plugs with my wire wheel.
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
A wire wheel works to an extent, but the actual spark plug cleaner like I use, gets the carbon out from the whole bottom of the plug. I almost never have to buy new plugs as a result.
@johnclarke6647
7 ай бұрын
@@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156 hard use cleans up most plugs. I seldom buy new plugs, either, but when I do they are Bosch, usually from my Stihl dealer. There are a lot of counterfeit Bosch plugs on the market these days and if the don’t have blue lines on the insulator I do not buy them. I may pay a little more from Stihl but I know what they are when I do.
@dwhallon21
7 ай бұрын
Mr obsolete did trealizeyouwerrinto ugstoo. I have learned a lot from you
@mrobsoletesvintagehomestea9156
7 ай бұрын
My main hobby is collecting everything with engines and motors in them or on them, and all the peripheral things that go with them, such as spark plugs ! Nice to have hobbies ! Thanks for the nice comment and for watching.
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