"It won't hurt, it might bruise or break a bone..." You can walk it off lol.
@lonewarrior9992
7 жыл бұрын
as a person who has trained in various fighting styles for almost 20 years, i must say there are many flaws in what you say, like how hard it is to block if not on point, my favorite weapons are the quarter staff and sword in that order and i can very quickly change from almost any striking/ cutting position to almost any guard position. if you hold a spear made to cut and thrust peoperly your parries are almost the same as using a saber and can be done just as quickly.
@MC-gj8fg
Жыл бұрын
In practice I can say that whether polearm, spear, or quarterstaff, you want to stab, not swing. Keeping the weapon in front of you provides incredible defense which disappears when you're trying to make wide swings with it. Also, if you're skeptical that the end of a quarterstaff can do much damage then you've never been hit in the face with the blunt end of a quarterstaff. That's a fight ender right there. Guaranteed.
@ykl4hoijgbojo5jijoji
9 жыл бұрын
Heh, fairly brief point heh spears
@enduraman1
9 жыл бұрын
Your idea to focus on making impact with the end of the spear rather than the side of quarterstaff makes sense. Of course, the sharp point of the spear will do more damage than the blunt side of quarterstaff and your strategy of drawing the spear point towards you after a blow knocks away the point of the your spear is very smart. As you also state, this is also a good strategy to use with the quarterstaff because the end of the staff delivers more force than the side of the quarterstaff.
@LogicJab
9 жыл бұрын
It's really a simple formula. Pressure = Force/Surface area. Same force behind the point does way more damage.
@I..cast..fireball
9 жыл бұрын
So really, its not that you have to fight differently with the spear then the quarterstaff, its that your should fight with the quarterstaff, as you would with a spear. In sparing with the quarterstaff, since any touch is counted, people will go for the slightly easier hit, then to thrust.
@screwtape2713
9 жыл бұрын
9gibsonlespaul Well, there do seem to be a couple of schools of thought historically even in England on the use of the quarterstaff: The 'hold the staff mainly in the middle and block and swing with it' school and the 'hold the staff at the end and mainly poke and do short swirly strikes with it' school... The second one certainly mirrors standard spear tactics.
@caestusdeviking1278
9 жыл бұрын
You run a great channel Matt, thanks, keep up the good work!
@Arafax
9 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see some winged spear vs sword/buckler sparring just to demonstrate how it plays out
@JamieLanncasterly
9 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, it would be very interesting to see you test cut with this winged spear, see how good it is for cutting!
@SlurponMuhdickKillTheState
9 жыл бұрын
Very wise to retract to regain your distance and again give point. People like us can easily rip a pole arm out of an opponent's hands or break through their guard otherwise.
@andrewplck
9 жыл бұрын
To be honest, spear cuts can happen with some blade types, and can be very good. But the moment when You decide to rather try to cut with the spear than thrust, is the moment You die. In most cases :)
@AdlerMow
5 жыл бұрын
Unless you use as a complement. If you miss the target, you do a cut while pulling it back to stab again. So, its not like you swinging it like a poleaxe or something.
@HipposHateWater
3 жыл бұрын
Same with most rapiers (as we would call them.) Most did have quite an appreciable ability to cut. It's just that in rapier combat, cuts are... usually far less forgiving if you got the timing less than perfect.
@totoyevangelista1255
3 жыл бұрын
yes. he talks too much. for a warrior. that means he aint.
@xenophon5354
9 жыл бұрын
Nice reference, "stick them with the pointy end"!
@lemeres2478
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it depends on the spear. I feel that shorter spears work better for a quarterstaff style. As far as I am aware, short spears were popular in various places as home defense (cheap, and short works for in the house). At some point, the spear starts being like a Goedendag... or a baseball bat with a stabby end for lethal blows.
@Win94ae
9 жыл бұрын
Nice weapon!
@Daccio88
9 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know more about differences between swords from different countries during middle ages. for example, difference between italian longsword and german or english longsword, between spanish arming sword and french arming sword. Scandinavian swords and Bizantinian swords.. and so on.. It would be interesting in a video :)
@glenndemoor3020
9 жыл бұрын
It is interesting because the same principle (about thrusts and jabs) applies to unarmed fighting. Wing Chun for example makes use of the 'shortest route', which are most of the time the punches thrown from your body's centre line straight to the opponent. It's like using a baseball bat: you could swing it, which is easier to avoid because it is a big movement, and takes much longer to reach the target; or you could thrust the end of the bat into someone's face, which is quicker, harder to dodge, and potentially does much more damage.
@SlurponMuhdickKillTheState
9 жыл бұрын
"It's like using a baseball bat: you could swing it, which is easier to avoid because it is a big movement, and takes much longer to reach the target;" Yes, but it is always a trade off. The long wild swing can generate considerably more power on contact. To trade for that increase in power you lose considerable speed and dexterity.
@GottHammer
9 жыл бұрын
on a somewhat related note: if memory serves, another martial art w/ emphasis on strikes from the centre line, Hsing-I Chuan/Xingyiquan, points to using spears as a complimentary training tool (I've only been really shown little of the spear thing myself, tho', as my xingyiquan teacher is primarily a taijiquan practitioner :P )
@Ozchuck
9 жыл бұрын
The problem with wing chun punches is that weapon thrust mechanics dont translate very well to a single hand. and at the point that an arm-punch (as opposed to a more western style shoulder/chest punch) connects with the opponent there is both less mass behind the punch, as theres no kinetic chain to the ground, and less acceleration because only the elbow and a small part of the shoulder is able to exert force on the opponent. Wheras a spear/staff actually recruits energy from both arms, the back, and the glutes to thrust and applies that force to a heavier component, the energy imparted at impact is very, very different.
@SlurponMuhdickKillTheState
9 жыл бұрын
Ozchuck Kinetic linking is the best way to generate power.
@shane8037
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there was some sort of weapon, other than a spear or polearm, which shares a similar size and usage technique as the quarterstaff and was popular around the same time... 🤔
@xenophon5354
9 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, My question is completely unrelated, but I figured it'd have a much greater likelihood of being answered on an earlier video. How restricting is the hilt of a basket-hilt sword compared to the hilt of say a rapier?
@melkior13
9 жыл бұрын
Could you compare and contrast the spear you have and a partizan? and/or spears in general vs. partizans
@Maedelrosen
9 жыл бұрын
That seems to be the recurring problem, the spearpoint being moved and the spear being used as a staff, leaving openings and not holding that point forward
@garrettborba994
4 жыл бұрын
So from what I can pick up it's closer to an analogue for halberd or guisarme style polearms
@JacobTheRambler
9 жыл бұрын
That spear looks good on you!
@LogicJab
9 жыл бұрын
I would say that if you are going to hit with the spear along an arc, it shouldn't be a big, chambered up one. That's needlessly slow. But if your spear gets knocked on point and you can crack em one as you withdraw your weapon, why not? Sort of a smack/thrust idea.
@cypressz
9 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like Quarterstaff users would translate best to spear weapons such as Halberds or the Naginata. Something with a bladed edge that cuts well in addition to a good point.
@joshstarkey8883
7 жыл бұрын
Citric Thoughts Or even a really big sword. Also there are some long weapons that are about half handle half blade
@Dethfield
9 жыл бұрын
Matt, you need a polearm to hold in your videos, for no reason other than i enjoy looking at all the weapons you have and a polearm would be a cool edition.
@daxmafesi
5 жыл бұрын
Wing Chun pole training uses thrust
@dariogonzalez4041
9 жыл бұрын
how do you feel about people who constantly spin their staffs and hold the staff in the i see this in eastern martial arts
@NeflewitzInc
9 жыл бұрын
This leads me to believe someone needs to pioneer a Red Dragon/Rawlings type synthetic spear head like the winged spear you have in this video.
@tydusjames9507
7 жыл бұрын
I disagree a bit, though not on any kind of experience. I'd imagine that any hit from a blade, even one like that, would hurt A LOT. even if dull. muscle damage such as bruising is a fantastic strat, I'd imagine. if your arms are continuously being hit by even a blunt blade or quarter staff your strikes will be weaker and weaker.
@MegaSweeney123
9 жыл бұрын
Schola Gladiatoria an off-topic question, I know, but I've been trying to find out whether longswords may have been used by crusaders (13th century is my period of interest there. Not that I think it'd effect the answer, but, specifically the Hospitallers :) ), I know it wouldn't have been common if they were, but my searches have come up with conflicting hearsay, really. Thanks a heap :) P.S. is that a viking winged spear?
@pradanap.m.3195
9 жыл бұрын
Not as such, if you mean "longsword" as in the 14th- or 15th-century type of sword with long grip and long, sharply tapered blade particularly suited for thrusting. But the 13th and the early 14th centuries saw the proliferation of the "grete swerds of warre" (usually modernised into "greatswords" or "war-swords") that had similar dimensions to slightly later (or, in the later cases, contemporary) longswords but more cut-oriented blades. Most of them fall under types XIIa and XIIIa in Oakeshott's typology: www.myarmoury.com/feature_spotxii.html www.myarmoury.com/feature_spotxiii.html
@saltypork101
7 жыл бұрын
So a very good training aid for a partisan then?
@Connorcj1
9 жыл бұрын
I do imagine as a training analogue it wouldn't be entirely accurate, either. Sure- it's the pole section of a polearm but wouldn't a halberd/poleaxe/hammer shift the balance enough to make it something that shouldn't be overlooked in training?
@Dhomazhir
9 жыл бұрын
he wasn't speaking of training specifically but generally, which a staff would do well and at a good price point too.
@lancerd4934
9 жыл бұрын
I'm always skeptical of people cutting with spears. The main problem is the circular shaft. Combine that with a lack of a crossguard and you have zero tactile feedback for your edge alignment. To make sure you hit with the edge you'd have to eyeball it, thus taking your eyes off your opponent to check where your spearhead is at. This is why things like poleaxes generally have a square of octagonal shaft. Given the range of angles the spearhead might fall at compared to those that would allow it to cut, it doesn't seem like a worthwhile gamble, unless you're trying a feint or something.
@theguileraven2710
8 жыл бұрын
+lancer D You don't need to eyeball anything. If you know your weapon you know your weapon. Your weapon is an extension of yourself.
@tydusjames9507
7 жыл бұрын
lancer D what if your spear was not circular but instead an oval. I wonder if that would be effective
@xcelva
9 жыл бұрын
Hello what's the diameter of that shaft?
@sitrilko
9 жыл бұрын
Hello, Id like to ask a question that is only slightly related to the topic of the video. Just how heavy is the metal (iton/steel) head of a spear?
@scholagladiatoria
9 жыл бұрын
sitrilko I've never weighed just the head, so I don't know. At a guess, about 1kg.
@dannyswitch13
9 жыл бұрын
could you do a movie fight review, for prince of thieves (Kevin Costner), just for the river fight..... might be a pretty good resource for the people with an interest in quarterstaff etc, and its about the only decent staff duel i can think of.
@dannyswitch13
9 жыл бұрын
Indeed, just proof that the film industry does their best to keep it real....
@Dmc-cx9tm
9 жыл бұрын
I think it would be nice if everyone would go ahead and report Johannes Sigiward fencer for harrasment/bullying.
@screwtape2713
9 жыл бұрын
***** What exactly is an "internet people"? I've never met one. But you seem to be throwing the term around lately as though it were a pejorative descriptor for an actual identifiable race, ethnicity or even a separate species from Homo sapiens. The odd thing is ... you do it in internet comments of your own....
@screwtape2713
9 жыл бұрын
Jöhännes Sigiward Fechter Ah. In other words, "Pot ... Meet Kettle". Incidentally, I don't live in "America" either (assuming that by "America" you mean "the USA" and not the continents of North and South America - and all the many varied countries contained within them...)
@xenophon5354
9 жыл бұрын
***** I always find your comments amusing. Not because they hold any comedic value, but rather they're filled with ridiculous insults towards others about using the internet as "a megaphone for [their] insecurities", and their "misplaced bravado" and "self-centeredness". I'm sorry but isn't that exactly what you're doing? Furthermore, if the internet is poison, then leave. Us "internet people" won't miss you. I also notice that you frequent Mr. Schola's videos. It truly saddens me to see someone constantly being a complete ass to others when they come here to learn and discuss what they're interested in. Honestly, and I don't mean to sound like a grandmother, you should be ashamed.
@The1Helleri
9 жыл бұрын
"This is going to be a fairly brief point"...hehe.
@nickgs21
7 жыл бұрын
can a lone man with a spear kill an elephant.
@awlach8
9 жыл бұрын
So is this to say that spears had dull edges? Especially looking at the spear you are holding, how can you says it would not do much damage if the edges are sharpened?
@screwtape2713
9 жыл бұрын
It's more a case of having to be familiar with the characteristics of one's own particular spear. SOME spears and 'spearlike weapons' have heads that have long enough edges on a broad and heavy enough head that they can do considerable damage with a cut. The medieval partizan is a good example, with a cutting blade on the head that was generally over a foot long and between 3 to 6 inches wide at the base. On the other hand, historically there were probably far more spears out there with heads more like a javelin - the leaf-shaped area of the tip is 6 inches long or less and only a couple inches wide with about the same overall cutting ability as a rondel dagger. And something like a triangular lance point, of course, is even worse. Any wounding ability arising from 'hitting' with these type of spearheads will be mostly limited to their ability to inflict blunt trauma - especially on anybody wearing almost any kind of clothing at all. Now the spear Matt is holding is actually somewhere in the middle of that overall range. A couple of other KZitem channels showed cutting tests against hanging clothed pig carcasses using that precise spear as an example of a Viking-era "hewing spear". In both cases, the spear did inflict damage with 'hewing cuts' - but it was rather surprisingly less effective than I expected (or then the testers expected either). On the other hand, the lugs added a surprising amount of concentrated force to the blunt trauma impact. But the true damage potential clearly came from the thrust, where that spearhead penetrated very well -- and then the long cutting edges enabled the user to greatly increase the internal injury by 'pumping' the shaft before withdrawing the blade. Which 'may' have been the main design intention behind those long cutting edges on the spear... For another example, look at the results modern hunters get when using the Cold Steel Assegai and Boar Spears. These spears have heads with cutting portions that are 13 to 14 inches long and about 3 to 4 inches wide for much of their length. Essentially, they are big daggers on poles and probably very similar in characteristics to medieval partizans. They cut quite well. However, people who actually hunt wild boar with them in places like Texas seem to find that the true benefit of the long cutting edges is in depth of penetration and then width of internal cut after the hunter broadens the wound channel by 'pumping' the shaft before withdrawing the head (and when the spears are thrown, there is much the same result from the weight of the shaft dragging the bottom of the spear towards the ground and thus levering the head upwards in the wound.)
@bilgames2700bc
9 жыл бұрын
thrusting ALWAYS do more damage than cutting against an armour, so its a bad habit to cut an opponent
@screwtape2713
9 жыл бұрын
T.C. Yu However, unless someone is wearing a complete suit of European late-medieval plate armour, even someone in armour tends to have unarmoured spots that are vulnerable to a quick slash. So while a thrust with a spear will usually cause 'more' damage than a cut (and with a sword or knife too, for that matter), that doesn't mean that a cut will cause NO damage. I would say it would be a much worse habit to neglect attacks that would cause 'some' damage to your enemy simply because a quick slash wouldn't be instantly fatal...
@bilgames2700bc
9 жыл бұрын
screwtape2713 ure right, it totally depends on the armour. in a duel without any protection cutting is more practical, but in a war u always want thrusting over slashing while using sharp weapons. this is why pike, lance and spear are always preferred in close range combat. swords except broad or long swords(for example scottish word) ar always side arms.
@MariusThePaladin
9 жыл бұрын
screwtape2713 Yeah, trying to cut with things like antique era spear would be very hard.
@boxy2k8
9 жыл бұрын
I hate it when you show the Hanwei spear, because it's the best looking spear I've ever seen and I want it so much but it's pretty much impossible to find in the UK.
@edi9892
9 жыл бұрын
Why would you need a long blade to cut. If you hit with a spear then only like 10-20cm of the blade would be in contact. Cuts wouldn't have any drawcut component due to the lack of an angle (like sword in hand). The only way to make a drawcut would be not to hit but push and pull.
@Ozchuck
9 жыл бұрын
IMO, the longer blade of a spear provides a little bit more protection from a hand deflection or grab and counter.
@ItsJustMilkISwear
9 жыл бұрын
you should be able to see how it would be better at cutting just by looking at it to be honest.
@DiscountFlunky
9 жыл бұрын
I lot of super pointy thrusting spears don't even have sharp edges. That spear is basically a dagger on the end of a pole so it has some cutting power, but a lot of spears don't.
@AsifAltair
9 жыл бұрын
Where can I get a spear like that?
@scholagladiatoria
9 жыл бұрын
AsifAltair This one is a Hanwei, so any local Hanwei dealer - Cult of Athena, The HEMA Shop, etc.
@sanqiangli6425
8 жыл бұрын
+scholagladiatoria Made in China? That doesn't look too bad for a Chinese product.
@coldsteelfanboykatanalover3289
9 жыл бұрын
Matt- why is there a point on the back end of the spear?
@SlurponMuhdickKillTheState
9 жыл бұрын
Because the butt end is still a good weapon, especially if your opponent breaks through your guard (the benefit you gain in distance with a pole arm). Once that distance is closed the massive gains you have from the pole arm are largely lost. If you don't reverse and buttstroke them then you're pretty well fucked. Also if someone comes up behind you while you are giving point to a primary adversary you can easily jab backwards and still stun a secondary opponent well enough to about face and give point.
@Ozchuck
9 жыл бұрын
Slurpon Muhdick All of that is true. It also gives better purchase on slippery ground for marching, and would make a spear wall formation much easier.
@FinnHauskarl
9 жыл бұрын
All good points, both ends can be used in a fight. I would also add that sometimes weapons break, and spear heads can be knocked loose or chopped off in a long drawn out fight. Having a spike on the back means you can reverse the shaft and still have a weapon that can stab at distance.
@screwtape2713
9 жыл бұрын
And, to add to what Ozchuck said about spear formations, having a pointy metal buttspike to ram into the ground makes it easier to use the spear as a 'fixed spike' defence. The spear is held with the butt on the ground underneath the foot and the point projecting up and out at a 30 to 45 degree angle. This was sometimes done by the front rank in a spear formation to provide a "hedge" against a cavalry or infantry charge. However, it is also done individually by hunters of dangerous game - particularly wild boar. The hunter lures the animal into charging him and then grounds the spear like this right before impact, so that most of the strain of opposing the charge and holding the animal at a distance is absorbed by the ground.
@SlurponMuhdickKillTheState
9 жыл бұрын
Ozchuck True. The point makes it easy to brace the spear against the ground to form a spiked wall.
@MagisterMalleus
9 жыл бұрын
02:53
@JoakimfromAnka
9 жыл бұрын
1:35 Not gonna hurt much if hit by a sharp blade?
@dannyswitch13
9 жыл бұрын
I think the point is most traditional spears don't have sharp blades,...
@Dumbo8234
9 жыл бұрын
I might consider using a cut to catch an opponent by surprise, hoping it might open a gap that I can then thrust into, but as an attack by itself it's simply less effective than a thrust.
@Feldscher1039
9 жыл бұрын
No, considering that most people in Europe didn't fight naked and that it takes a considerable effort to cut trough a padded jacket with a thrusting spear. Might give him a scratch but will most likely not even go trough the jacket.
@dannyswitch13
9 жыл бұрын
the point of the video is one of the common mistakes people make, is doing precisely what you just suggested, using a cut when they should pull back and re align the point, because a cut is less effective, especially if you are using a standard traditional spear, because they weren't sharp edged, they were simply a metal stake on a stick, and so trying to make a cut would be a mistake which leaves them vulnerable and gives the opponent an advantage and a chance to close in and attack.
@dannyswitch13
9 жыл бұрын
***** As much as i would like to agree with you, and I'm not by any means saying your statement is completely incorrect, i do feel the need to point out that A) you are actively commenting online, therefore you are also in the group of "internet people" that you so callously stereotyped, insulted and tarred every one with the same brush, and also B) How can you sit there and say he lack's and inkling of intelligence, when he merely asked a question and forwarded his opinion, this to me says he has some level of common sense, and was simply discussing his approach and left it open for people to respond, this could have been to clarify why his way wouldn't work, or for people to agree, either way, his common sense was to join a discussion with his ideas, he did not make a bold comment insulting somebody and making no real effort to contribute, unlike you, who has done just that. why comment on something if it doesn't contribute towards it, you may as well have just selected another video and moved on with your life.... telling people you are done with them and insulting people doesn't have any affect other than making yourself out to be a cock. So therefore, please refrain from being mindless, arrogant and immature, if you don't have anything nice to say, then just don't say anything. Yes, obviously some people online amaze me with stupidity, and others make me question whether humans really are the peak of evolution in this day and age, but does it benefit me to tell them? no, does it benefit them? no, so the only time i would comment, is if i thought wasting my braincells would possibly help educate them or give them ideas for future reference (i.e contributions to the topic...) and i would't simply insult them. If you simply cannot restrain yourself and it makes such a big impact on your life that you have no other way around it other than trying to belittle somebody, why don't you offer your insult in such a way as to be constructive and explain why they should be better educated or better yet, offer them a resource with which to educate themselves and explain why in your opinion, they should listen. At least then you don't come across as a complete moron nor a totally pathetic waste of your fathers semen.
@MaciejNaumienko
9 жыл бұрын
so in essence... don't bring the staff stuff into a spear fight...
@scholagladiatoria
9 жыл бұрын
Not exactly - just focus on the pokey stuff and ignore most of the hitty stuff.
@phileas007
9 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria I think you can still use the hitty stuff if you aim deliberately to the opponent's hands and as a means to forcefully push their weapon aside in preparation for a thrust. At least I would do that.
@brandonmarcial2792
9 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria When you say to ignore the hitty stuff, does that include slashing with the edges of a spearhead? Or do you mean avoid using the shaft of a spear as an attack? Because I'm pretty sure slashing with a spear against an un-armored opponent would be pretty powerful.
@ElDrHouse2010
9 жыл бұрын
Swing less, stab more.. Its not hard science.
@ElDrHouse2010
9 жыл бұрын
Brandon Marcial Keep in mind that a slash is more telegraphed than a thrust. About how powerful each slash is...? Depends on the edge alignment and of course the spear head shape...
@shmuckling
9 жыл бұрын
How the hell did I unsubscribe?! That's gotta be youtube, my mouse pointer wouldn't even dare come anywhere near the unsub button...grrrrr
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