I pretty much thought of a build like this before I found this video awesome work it's given me the inspiration to do it on my.wolf warrior
@NRGZ28
2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear! Do it!
@roofingcontractors3349
2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, i'm just upping my ultra 2 to 92v with vesc controllers , should be gd to go in a few weeks, can't wait
@carstoniu
Жыл бұрын
how did this go? i tried on a dualtron spider with no liuck
@yoctoflop
2 жыл бұрын
I've thought about doing this to my Laotie Ti30, so it's nice to see a success story. Thanks!
@NRGZ28
2 жыл бұрын
Go for it! I'm sure you have a lot more space in the deck than I do.
@yoctoflop
2 жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 Just did this to a friend's ES18 lite. 100% worth it, it's so smooth!
@marinostsalis314
Жыл бұрын
@@yoctoflop did you installed it on Ti 30? I want to install it too but I'm afraid about controller getting hot for long range.
@danieljesus7958
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!👌
@UKMrMedical
2 жыл бұрын
I love this thank you so much I want todo this to my eco e4 9
@604cpr
Жыл бұрын
I’m in the market for a Dualtron Thunder 2, and I think I’m gonna upgrade the controllers to FOC/sine wave. I was worried about losing the EY3 display, but this looks like a massive upgrade for seeing relevant info as well as more detailed stats 👍
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
Definitely. Massively increased throttle smoothness too, BUT... Dualtrons don't have hall sensors in their motors, so it won't be as smooth as you'd expect...
@BH4x0r
Жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 The Ubox 75/100 V2's have phase shunts & filters, give V0V7 Silent HFI in Vesc firmware V6 a go note: the 100V ones (required for battery voltage > 52V to be safe as max charge of 52V is 58.8V and voltage spikes can and will potentially destroy 75V models on anything higher) do NOT have phase shunts, they have low side shunts so it might require more tuning to get right as far as OP goes, since he can and does use a 75V model, silent hfi can be even smoother than hall sensors
@99prabs
2 ай бұрын
@@NRGZ28 is it work for motors without hall sensor?
@NRGZ28
2 ай бұрын
@@99prabs Yeah..
@99prabs
2 ай бұрын
@@NRGZ28 thank you
@her0z217
Жыл бұрын
And one last question: Were you able to use the Eco/Turbo and Single/Dual motor switches and if so, how did you plug those in?
@vegasromaniac
5 ай бұрын
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@jagerhimself9491
Жыл бұрын
How do you mount the davegaX onto the bar, and do you have a acceleration test?
@don.s_a_l_v_a_t_o_r_e
4 ай бұрын
Hello! You really did a great job with the display connection! 👍Question: I have the VESC 75100 with Bluetooth module and everything works But question: I have a VSETT display and I can upload this Lisp file for the VESC and VSETT display but it says ; no paired! I would have to connect the VSETT display to the VESC so that it switches on the VESC and then I can upload the Lisp file for the VSETT display and the Erorr 10 error on the display will then disappear and the kmh display will then also work. PLEASE can you tell me because the VESC does not have a power cable that you can switch on the VESC with the display because normally there is a red power cable, a GND minus cable and a blue cable, all of which the VSETT display has but the VESC does not because the blue cable is normally there With the standard controller, return the strim to the controller and then switch it on immediately. How can I do this with the VESC so that I can switch it on with the display? I have now only connected VSETT display with VESC Rx to Tx and Tx to Rx but that is not enough because I still have to be able to set the controller with the display somehow. Can you please tell me how and which two cables can I use to switch on the VESC with the display? Because it doesn't have a power cable, Sonett only 5V + cable and GND cable. I only connected the gas that is connected to the display to the VESC on Adc1 with the Hall voltage cable and everything works. Just please can you tell me can I connect the display to the VESC with 5V and GND cable using the display power cable and GND cable?! But when I now connect the battery with the VESC XT60 connector, the controller is immediately switched on! Hmmm... I have now closed the VSETT display on the battery permanent plus and minus, but where do I have to connect the plus and minus cable from the display to the VESC so that the display switches on the VESC? Please can you just tell me this and help me? I beg you very much! Because you are probably a professional in electronics and have managed to connect the display to the VESC. PLEASE!
@olivereliasson799
2 жыл бұрын
Want follow up video on complete build
@her0z217
Жыл бұрын
Did you use the stock DC converter for the original headlights/brake lights? If not, how did you wire those up to function when the brake lever is pressed?
@MrGiodude17
Жыл бұрын
Did he answer you
@user-vg9pq6yy2h
Жыл бұрын
If it is a 52v23Ah battery, what is the size of the cell and how many amps?
@MrGiodude17
Жыл бұрын
Nine never came with that module things where did you buy it
@user-vg9pq6yy2h
Жыл бұрын
I can't finish the setup due to the language barrier, so if possible, could you please make a setup video of zero10x working? Can I turn the lights on and off?
@freddysaenzdastylist
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the display?
@don.s_a_l_v_a_t_o_r_e
4 ай бұрын
Hello again!🙂 I have already connected the Rx/Tx to Tx/Rx from display to VESC 75100 controller, but can you PLEASE tell me whether I should connect the display plus + cable to the 5V+ plus cable with the VESC?! That the VESC turns on or is connected to the display? Because I absolutely have to connect the VESC with my VSETT display because then I can upload the Lis file (script( for VESC and VSETT display into the VESC and then the kmh display from the display would work. I only have Rx/Tx to Tx/Rx display connected to VESC but that's not enough it shows me who I upload the Lisp file that the VESC is not connected to the VSETT external display and I still have to connect. But the VESC only has a 5V + (red cable) output! And If I connect my 48V battery with VESC, then when fully charged, 54.6V comes into the VESC and it switches on with a blue light. So where do I have to connect the plus + cable from the external 48-60V VSETT display to the VESC? Please can you just tell me where I have to connect the Plus+ cable from the external display to the VESC so that it is connected to the display? I beg you very much! Please help me with an answer. Kind regards. :)
@nehanichikahuak
2 жыл бұрын
could you show more in detail how you wired your battery please? :)
@NRGZ28
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing special... I used a 2xXT60 to XT90 adapter harness, since the ubox comes with a XT90 on it.
@nehanichikahuak
2 жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 thank you, if I want to connect a second battery how would i do that...? Do you have a forum.or something...?
@NRGZ28
2 жыл бұрын
@@nehanichikahuak Then you just use a y splitter harness for the 2nd battery. As long as the voltage ratings match, you should be okay. My zero 10x has a 38ah and a 23ah 52V battery packs hooked up in parallel.
@nehanichikahuak
2 жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 in fact I would like to put 2x 72V batt on mine with bigger motors, thats why I asked you a link if you're in a forum 😃
@turnerhayes5303
Жыл бұрын
What settings did you put for your motor poles during the motor configuration???
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
Idk.. That's why you let it auto detect.
@user-wv7ek5qi5t
Жыл бұрын
Is VESC controller such great above original for money VESC cost?
@user-vg9pq6yy2h
Жыл бұрын
Is there a rule to route the 3 motor cables to the VESC based Ubox V2 100V 200A dual motor controller? Will the tool set up without having to match the front and rear motor cables the same?
@Skylersteel
Жыл бұрын
From what I’ve seen doesn’t matter how you set up phase wires to controller
@meierdaniel8549
2 жыл бұрын
How does the display know the average cell voltage? Does it communicate with a BMS, or just calculate from the system voltage?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
Not sure about that. It just reads system voltage through the VESC controller.
@nehanichikahuak
2 жыл бұрын
hi, excellent video thank you. I would like to made the same mod, can i use the 72V controller with the stock 60V battery on my 10X...?
@NRGZ28
2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. The Spintend box can safely go up to 75V. If you want to have more headroom, order the black 100V model.
@user-vg9pq6yy2h
Жыл бұрын
How did you handle the eco and turbo switches? Can I switch between high gear, middle gear, and low gear on the Davega screen? Can I do the same operation after connecting my mobile phone?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
I didn't concern myself with that. This is a high performance machine now, no need for speed limiting switches. It's all in the throttle :)
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
But to answer your question, you can't do it with the board I used for the vesc. Spintend does make a newer board that supports that now.. Or you can setup current limiting profiles in the vesc app and switch it that way.
@anontiffany1573
2 жыл бұрын
Any reason you're using a bluetooth adaptor? My original V1 ubox has built in bluetooth, does V2 not have it?
@NRGZ28
2 жыл бұрын
Yes.. the new version does not have built in BT. Bad move on Spintend's part in my opinion.
@georgeforeman89
11 ай бұрын
How did you mount the Davega to your handlebars?
@NRGZ28
7 ай бұрын
With an aluminum cradle type mount designed for a phone :)
@Skylersteel
Жыл бұрын
Want to do this to my zero 11x. Kinda scared tho. So I’d have to get rid of the Qs display and replace with custom throttle.
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
That's the easy part. Be sure your wiring skills are excellent first.. There's no going back.. Lol
@Skylersteel
Жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 your video is almost identical to the 11x wiring except hall sensors which isn’t necessary
@Skylersteel
Жыл бұрын
Each motor pulls about 38 amps. I believe they are 2800 watt peak each. I have a 20s 9p 21700 pack as well. Each cell max discharge is 14.4 amps how would I divide that. If it’s not to much for you would like your opinion. Or what I’m asking is what is my battery peak discharge would it be 14.4x 9 or 14.4 x 20
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
@@Skylersteel It would be 14.4 times 9 of course. With the vesc you can control the current output to what you want of course. I do about 100 phase amps per motor on mine...
@Skylersteel
Жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 awesome bro thanks. Gonna do this down the line. You inspired me. So I have 138 amps fiddle with
@ianthomas6593
Жыл бұрын
How did you wire up the throttle im guessing it has 5 wires ? +5,negative,signal,battery positive but where does the 5th wire go Thanks
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
The wire is only three wires. 3.3v...signal...ground. All directly into the vesc hooked up to ADC1.
@her0z217
Жыл бұрын
Also, since they're out of stock on the ADC adapters, would the throttle, lights, and brakes still work if I didn't get one?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
Of course not.. You'd have to rewire all that individually.
@her0z217
Жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 Damn, guess i'll be waiting for those to come back in stock.
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
@@her0z217 Get the new version they got. Seems much more capable..
@Omar-tz8hx
11 ай бұрын
Will this controller work in 100+ degree weather and is it possible to just use the vesc phone app for a display?
@NRGZ28
11 ай бұрын
Yes and yes. But make sure you cool it and bolt it down to the deck.
@joaquinninoortega156
Жыл бұрын
hows your ubox 75v? what is your settings like motor max and batt max?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
Doing good. Max motor amps I set to 100a. Battery max around 100 as well.
@user-vg9pq6yy2h
Жыл бұрын
How to set zero10x52v25Ah 1000w motor if you are using VESC tool for Ubox V2 75V 200A. The VESC tool does not support Japanese, so I would like NRGZ28, who uses the same model, to help me, but if possible, could you make a video? I wish it was faster. I'm sorry for the unreasonable request, but I'm looking forward to seeing you.
@AW49
Жыл бұрын
Sir, I have the Wolf Warrior X. The motors are compatible with VESC or not?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
They are, yes. If three's no hall sensors on them, just run the vesc in "bldc" mode, instead of "foc".
@vd1261
2 жыл бұрын
Hi I wanted to ask you is it possible to put a 3 speed switch with this controller? or any other method of changing gears?
@NRGZ28
2 жыл бұрын
Not that I know of... You can setup profiles in the vesc app to limit speed on demand, but not buttons. Just use the throttle :)
@vd1261
2 жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 Grazie. Molto gentile.
@floor5173
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much the difference is acceleration and or top speed
@NRGZ28
7 ай бұрын
Massive on both!
@awesome9335
Жыл бұрын
At 60 volts can you estimate what the top speed would be? Using the stock 18650 cells.
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
I get 50 with my 52... So maybe 55 or a little more for you?
@MrFas4wd
Жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 you got 50mph from your 52v 10x??! Has your acceleration improved or same or suffered?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
@@MrFas4wd I did. The acceleration has improved vastly!
@vsett
2 жыл бұрын
How do you connect the 2 battery outputs to thee Ubox? It appears only one is connected. I assume both should be used to get the required amps.
@anontiffany1573
2 жыл бұрын
No, the ubox is actually two vesc connected via canbus and fed by the one battery input. It does split the amps, which you have to take into account in the VESC settings when setting up your motors (max battery amps = 1/2 your batter total amps per controller for example).
@vsett
2 жыл бұрын
@@anontiffany1573 One battery output with the inline fuse probably can't handle the current draw of 2 motors at maximum power, thus requiring both battery outputs to connect to the ubox. Presumably an XT90 splitter is needed.
@statecraft1988
2 жыл бұрын
As I said, this is two controllers linked by canvas. They act as your split. As long as you know your battery max amps and put that divided by two as your motor limits on each controller you're good. Literally riding mine as proof lol.
@NRGZ28
2 жыл бұрын
Two XT60 to one XT90 adapter harness. Simple.
@slick1908
Жыл бұрын
how does it compare to stock controllers ? are you rocking the same battery ?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
Much more torque, higher top speed due to that, and butter smooth throttle response and control. I have two batteries hooked up in parallel for extended range. When rocking just the built in battery, I have to adjust the controller down to about 50% power so the bms doesn't trip. Still feels way faster than stock controllers.
@slick1908
Жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 Thanks! Was contemplating with updating my OG Thunder to something like this ( no hall sensors and no extra battery ). Seems like a nice upgrade
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
@@slick1908 I'm sure you'll see plenty of gains, since the thunder has a much stronger battery pack than the zero 10x. Might even make it smoother, although the lack of hall sensors will definitely hold you back..
@slick1908
Жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 I heard foc controllers deactivate hall sensors after like 3mph or so and I thought it would not be a big deal. I got no problem with the way it is now since I push the scooter a few inches when I start instinctually so it does not kick back till it figures out which way to spin anyway.
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
@@slick1908 That's true. The vesc is configurable to run "sensorless" so it won't be a problem anyway. These things are very flexible. Love them...
@simionpyro9564
Жыл бұрын
Hi, perfect, this display could work with 60V and 72V ? (VESC 75100) Thanks
@NRGZ28
7 ай бұрын
Yes..
@a4Audi2153
Жыл бұрын
You missed the dual/single switch, eco/turbo switch, head light on or off switch, brake lights activating when brakes applied, and horn or blinkers if this scooter has them (mine does)
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say I missed them... I don't need all that. This isn't a granny scooter..
@a4Audi2153
Жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 i was being a little dramatic but my problem with the VESC and others I can find is the lack of display compatability with added switches. They seem to be designed for longboards (displays a big and bulky to sit on them as well) which don't really make sense for scooters. The flipsky controller is the only one I can find but again it doesn't have a controller/throttle combo and looks like it's designed for a longboard.i hope more options come out for us scooter guys! It's a niche market but there is deffinitly a gap there to make some profit
@BH4x0r
Жыл бұрын
@@a4Audi2153 problem with most "power" scooters is that the screen is in the throttle, absolutely useless if you place the trigger throttle properly up to the brake levers as you can't read the screen in that case turbo/dual buttons shouldn't need to exist even, especially with VESC you can use current control mode which means you control the amount of power/torque rather than speed with full acceleration every throttle tap, feels so much smoother and better as far as screens in general go, okay yeah i agree it kinda sucks there's no ebike screen or something compatible with it out of the box, but other than that i have no regrets throwing those crappy squarewave controllers away i actually control how much i want to accelerate rather than that shitty speed control all torque mode most power scooters have
@a4Audi2153
Жыл бұрын
@BH4x0r the square wave controllers are garbage, I replaced mine in the mantis pro for sinewaves out of the King GT but I wish I could have done a vesc or something similar. Not many plug and play options available yet
@YouTubeCommentator.
Жыл бұрын
Can you run blinkers with the Ubox?
@NRGZ28
7 ай бұрын
Sure...
@freddysaenzdastylist
Жыл бұрын
just intalled on my 10x scooter. can you help me tio set it up
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
Told ya it's better done in person.. If you were in Vegas..
@user-vg9pq6yy2h
Жыл бұрын
I'm riding ZERO10X52v1000w, will this make it faster?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
It will get it to 50mph. I can't get it any faster than that on 52v...
@user-vg9pq6yy2h
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your reply. Is there a quick and easy way to speed it up without hurting it? Since it is a public road specification, it has a turn signal and a stop lamp, so I do not know the wiring, but is it still worth doing? Please help me with almost amateur magic remodeling
@electronicsfiction5647
2 жыл бұрын
How many amps bms this e scooter have ?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
300amp bms.
@alexg2089
7 ай бұрын
does it still work today?
@NRGZ28
7 ай бұрын
Of course it does..
@user-vg9pq6yy2h
Жыл бұрын
I bought this to connect my Ubox V2 100V to my zero10x. I want to connect the motor sensor wires from the motor to the hall port of the Ubox V2 100V, but I don't know the wires. GVD what color H3 what color H2 What color H1 what color temperature color 5v what color Thanking you in advance.
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
Temperature is not used. On the zero 10x, black is GND and red is 5V... H1 h2 and h3 don't matter how you do it, it will automatically get detected by the vesc.
@user-vg9pq6yy2h
Жыл бұрын
It was helpful
@WarHorseBronco
Жыл бұрын
What was the total cost
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
High
@ivektotovic9984
2 жыл бұрын
Top speed?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
50mph
@carstoniu
2 жыл бұрын
top speed?
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
50mph
@carstoniu
Жыл бұрын
@@NRGZ28 nice so u gained like 15mph my screen sometimes works sometimes no so hard to find instructions..i always see people mention the same issues as me but never any solutions ahah🤐
@NRGZ28
Жыл бұрын
@@carstoniu Yes but before I could only get about 33mph... And I gained incredible acceleration. It's much stronger.
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