Coming from a man here, just wow! And the entire church thought it was okay. I'm sorry.
@michellee2990
4 жыл бұрын
That was awful ! SMH !
@cbd.5447
Жыл бұрын
Dear Lord, this is so heartbreaking. I have seen this interview 2x and all I can say is God please help these people to get free from this horrible abuse.
@Leatherneck1057
3 жыл бұрын
After 25 years of participating in the UPI and another Oneness Pentecostal church, where I was pursuing ministry, I walked away almost three years ago. I didn’t realize the extent of the abuse until after I stopped participating in the culture. I see the heresy of the entire church system and I picked up on something this lady said that I don’t think a lot of people realize because the programming is so subtle; we were taught that walking away from church is the same as walking away from GOD...making GOD and the church synonymous. If people started studying their bibles for themselves and cultivating a relationship with Jesus Christ they would realize that the concept of church, which is a building affiliated with a man-made organization where a man without a job extorts ten percent of people’s working wages, is not scriptural and would make the church system irrelevant. The truth does set us free and it is suppressed by narcissistic men because it delegitimizes their control and affects their bottom line. I applauded these courageous ladies for speaking out about this topic; it is far too common. We cannot defeat the system, Jesus will do that, but we can spread the truth and try to help those who are affected.
@tommyd3955
4 жыл бұрын
Dear Jesus, please deliver these people (including many in my family) from the false, hateful, and abusive teachings of this cult. Thank God I have been delivered.
@dions.blignaut7187
4 жыл бұрын
Had listened to that clip several times in the past, and appalled at it. I had met both Edward Young when he preached in RSA, and also Senior pastor Westburg who preached the dedication service of a new church building in RSA (It had it's own ramifications). I am appalled at that preaching clip, and now in a better space to see the abuse of it in a brighter light listening to who it was directed at. The UPC is an extremely unhealthy church. You will be hurt when living under those man made standards. We glad many are exiting into a true relationship with the Lord. Their is life outside of the UPC.
@CKoinonia1
4 жыл бұрын
Edwin Young, not Edward.
@bashfullbuzzard
3 жыл бұрын
in life ive found out that usually a preacher preaches hard and often about something thats his hidden sin sounds like he has a boy problem
@damecommander868
3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I went to this church as well for over 20 years as a child to young adult. Incredibly proud of Mary for sharing her story and glad to know she’s doing well.
@thehollymorel
5 ай бұрын
How sickening and an insane amount of blantant ungodliness from that man. I wish everyone's eyes could have been opened in that congregation. After I left UPCI, I haven't stopped grieving and praying for everyone's eyes to be opened. 😢
@ovedinapadilla4670
Ай бұрын
Mary is a beautiful person with a kind soul. Prayers! ❤️🙏🏻
@jedicharls
4 жыл бұрын
I've been studying a lot on Dr. Michael Heiser's work. So much good stuff. All of creation is because of God wanting a family. The way the UPC portrays God as this King sitting on a throne high above you and if you don't praise him hard enough and with enough ferver for what he's done he'll ignore you or squash you. Withhold his Spirit from you... God wants a family, not to be a dictator over the people he shed his blood for. He is our FATHER. He lowered himself and is not ashamed to call himself our BROTHER. He's our family and we're all family because of his amazing grace.
@ResponsibleFaith
4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Dr. Heiser's work as well.
@TheSebastianFamily
4 жыл бұрын
Just awful. It really breaks my heart that this is a reality and how many people are deceived. I can’t even imagine the hurt. Made me cringe to listen to that clip and everyone just egging him on. I am so thankful Mary is out of that situation and is now able to tell her story. It’s much needed to understand the gravity of the terrible spiritual abuse that does happen. Sending a huge hug to Mary and thank you for shining a much needed light on this so others can listen. God bless!
@Djhikes63
7 ай бұрын
Powerful ❤ thank you
@justinaelizabeth5547
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for doing these interviews! The truth really does set us free. God keeps showing me to Never ever trust a title, but only good fruits.
@theforce10001
4 жыл бұрын
Best video about the UPCI that I’ve ever seen!! I wasted over 10 yrs of my life in that organization and these are the exact reasons why I left. I put up with all the nonsense in the name of “having a relationship with Jesus and growing in the word”. I found freedom when I left that cult Praise Jesus😂
@rangersmom1994
4 жыл бұрын
That man is so crazy!!! He is clearly dealing with some serious demons
@michelleelmer8911
4 жыл бұрын
Wow I am so Grateful to God I found your site. I was raised in the UPCI. To long of a story but how they took away my disabled brother away from me. The church was told not to even talk to me. Up until my adopted mom married a man in this church I had my big brother with Down Syndrome every month for years. We would go get him my mom had no problem it gave her a break she was a widow. We had a huge Antique Mall my brother loved helping and then we retired and he loved the farm. We were ask to watch my brother for their honeymoon. Well of course we would it was no big thing he had his own room etc. My mother and her new husband informed me I was no longer allowed to see my big brother if I did it would be a privilege that her new husband would say yes or no too. He told us my brother would never come to my house to visit and the new husband would be in the room monitoring all the Communication going on. I got a hold of a friend in the church to get a pic on his cell phone of my brother for me he said it was hard to do. I was not aware that he was being watched once he got the photograph he was told never to communicate with me again and so is the rest of the church. They had my brother up in St. Louis somewhere some type of home. I was going to get lawyers involved and had them arranged and scheduled to go see however the Holy Spirit tell me that they hate that they had was consuming me and I will be just like them if I did anything ever Lord had his hands. It’s been difficult I miss him so but the greatest thing I learned was to actually say my adopted mothers name and her husbands in Prayer to the Lord asking for their salvation. My mother was an abusive mother and before she married this man she called my husband complaining that this man was putting stuff in her home. I knew from that phone call and from meeting him she had married someone who would lord over her and abuse her as she had done us. Another thing was the five G Towers that are so dangerous she allowed AT&T to put one right next to her home for the money. My mother never had to worry about money. God let my husband and I know Randy was OK away from the five G waves that would tear his body down. But this young man of this church is a psychopath. My story is short and I hope it made sense. I’m dyslexic and need a proofreader and my husband isn’t here at the time. So I hope you can make heads and tells out of this. I married the first time a man in this UPC and God literally got me up one day and leave me out of a situation to where I was going to be killed and I was going straight to hell and didn’t know it and sent me to the man that I married now they’re talking about God I was actually kidnapped by a rog cop my husband knew long story there. But my husband rescued me and that’s a long story. All I can say as I do everyday humbly before God thank you for loving me so much for getting me out of that viper pit and saving my soul. Thank you for your channel my husband and I have truly enjoyed it. It has given me greater insight to the abuse at home abs church. God Bless You
@ResponsibleFaith
4 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for everything you've had to deal with, especially the loss of contact with your brother. That must be so difficult! It's not easy dealing with justified anger when the situation and hurt is still ongoing. I'm glad your faith is strong and you have the support of a loving husband. God bless you as you heal from the abuses you've suffered.
@sandrasanders706
3 жыл бұрын
Mary, I'm so sorry about what you went through. I will pray for your healing every day.
@arush197214
3 жыл бұрын
WoW! So Sorry for all the abuse. Sending hugs of healing. Mary is beautiful and good natured. The preacher sounded possessed. I had church abuse and also my late wife. We all got a story to tell and heal from. It takes years of healing to get past it. I would like to meet this lady share a cup of coffee and let her know God made everyone perfect. People change with power. I would like to date Mary. God bless you both. I was shunned for years by UPC.
@Mari-B
4 жыл бұрын
I understand what Mary feels about the Bible reading now. It's something I hope that I can get through. Mary is a very strong lady!! I greatly appreciate that you all made these videos.
@knit2getherinlove
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I actually can no longer read the KJV of the Bible. When I started reading the Bible again I had to switch to another version.
@nateanonymous2429
3 жыл бұрын
I have not found anything in the bible claiming that man is superior to women. The preacher is wrong. Yes man is the priest of the home and yes eve was the first to sin but that never made woman unequal. It just puts us in different position in the family dynamics. The Bible tells us that the husband should love his wife and give his life to her like Christ gave his life and the woman should be submissive to him and gives her body over to him ungrudgingly. Marriage is a constant cycle of understanding each other, giving yourself over out of selflessness and forgiveness. I believe if God wanted woman to be like a slave he wouldn't have created her out of Adam's side, which is equal to me.
@abtan5765
3 жыл бұрын
Awful how they try to delve into your private life. I don't understand why they just act your friend to get sermon material.
@paularyan1717
4 жыл бұрын
Totally get it. My prayers are with Mary and I pray she finds all the healing that Christ has to offer. It's been a long road for me but God has seen me through and I know that there is a life in Christ outside of the UPC. I've been out since 1996 and I was born and raised UPC and was considered 3rd generation Pentecostal.
@OurHumbleLife
3 жыл бұрын
He passed way this year, of cancer.
@ResponsibleFaith
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we had heard that.
@mandis.2079
28 күн бұрын
That's insane! I can feel the preacher's evil spirit through his preaching! Spiritual abuse at its best! 😢
@ellisseven9520
3 жыл бұрын
When the blind lead the blind they will both fall into the ditch. This guy needs psychological help and should not be allowed to take out the trash let alone preach.
@sandigrace2271
2 жыл бұрын
What an UNGODLY tantrum. Jesus had NOTHING to do with that mean-spirited tirade.
@Jessica-kf1ck
3 жыл бұрын
The way he humiliated this woman was not demonstrating the fruits of the spirit. The bible literally says that a man's prayers will be hindered if he doesn't honor his wife in 1 Peter 3:7.
@ResponsibleFaith
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, he was so abusive to her. 😥
@Jessica-kf1ck
3 жыл бұрын
@@ResponsibleFaith It broke my heart listening to how he treated her. His view of women is very concerning.
@Peppipainters5943
4 жыл бұрын
I am all kinds of angry right now. What a vile man. I am so glad you’re out of there.
@murrayritter
7 ай бұрын
Reminds me somewhat of Jeff Arnold. Last time we heard him in Indiana we were mad ourselves for being talked into coming to hear him speak.
@Stella-kx3lt
6 ай бұрын
Omg!!!! I came across the channel yesterday and just so happened to hear this today. I sat in Faith Tabernacle Church for 30 years and decided to leave and was shunned because of me leaving and when I left Edwin Young had stepped in because Pastor Westberg had passed away and his wife could no longer handle that role. I knew he was like that because he was the youth pastor at Faith Tabernacle and he was so arrogant and cocky. Always preaching about himself how big his Afro hairstyle was. He really has the nerve to preach about homosexuality when his oldest son is in jail to this day for molesting boys while having a wife and a daughter to cover up his homosexuality lifestyle.
@ChrisMosesBrownMind
3 жыл бұрын
Wow. That preacher is way out of pocket.
@christineanderson9589
3 жыл бұрын
Good morning, ladies. Thought Mary would like to know, I just searched and found that Edwin Young Sr. died on February 5, 2021.
@ResponsibleFaith
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing that info, I'll be sure Mary sees it.
@stevenford3162
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, no one should EVER have to put up with this garbage. And what is really frustrating to me is that even with stories/clips like this, there are still people who don't recognize that theses groups are dangerous cults.
@lynnloganmusic
3 жыл бұрын
I was just flabbergasted when I heard that man and then realized that I have heard services like that. Not the reprimanding part but the talking about what a man is and what women's shouldn't do. I refuse to go to another church where the pastor is so angry. One reason I can't watch John Hagee either. I must have stropped UPCI before they got REALLY bad. I think people considered the church I went to as a little more liberal. I don't know
@ResponsibleFaith
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of John Hagee either...for the same reason.
@shutejute1
3 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry for you having gone through this abuse. I'm just realizing that I also went through some of the same, was called a devil fromt he pulpit for disagreeing with the pastor over some sins going on with the principal of our church school. I've been carrying this damage, causing deep, deadly depression for years, buried deep in my heart and mind. Listening to these testimonies is bringing out the things that have been hurting me so deeply for years! I appreciate hearing these experiences. I'm not in any church, but love God and live a holy life, alone, at home with only one friend in the world. Even my family has cut me off and shuns me. I have a 10 month old great grandson whom I've never been allowed to see. Yes, I'm a wounded spirit. So much I can tell.....
@ResponsibleFaith
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear that Judy. You definitely were spiritually abused by the sounds of it. It really can leave deep, long lasting wounds on a person. You might benefit from a private spiritual abuse support group I know of on FB? If you're interested you can email me for info @ deannajonorton@gmail.com
@murrayritter
7 ай бұрын
Please God get me out of the UPCI!
@germaynedalessandro9039
Жыл бұрын
Oh my WOW!!!! Glad I left a upci church in Canada Will never go back
@chattygills17
4 жыл бұрын
That “sermon” was extremely triggering. I remember my dad parroting those words. He still does sometimes 🙄
@ResponsibleFaith
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that.
@anthonyamaral7657
4 жыл бұрын
Dear Mary I'm so sorry that you went through this really evil thing the UPC church is very evil I do pray for people who are being abused thank you for telling your testimony I feel so bad for you please be encouraged that God loves you very much you are a very special woman and you are a very strong woman I went to the UPC for 16years and then I went to other Pentecostal churches and was abused by them to I go to counseling and I have PTSD and bipolar disorder and anxiety disorder and depression and other disorders from churches I also have a really hard time praying and reading the bible it scares the daylight out of me going to any church or listening to any preaching makes me feel very sick I do play the piano and that helps me be with God but I don't feel his presence as I use to I have really had dreams every night and I feel that God is not with me anymore I lost a lot of really dear friends that no longer go to church anymore to and the others that do go to church no longer talk to me anymore. You have done a lot for lots of people thank you God bless you hope that you know that God is very much with you love you sister have a blessed day
@sp-un3kw
3 жыл бұрын
I just listened to this story. This is crazy!!! The fact that this woman was used and abused in so many ways 💔 it hurts my heart. This just shows how hard it is to leave abusive situations, no matter how great the abuse is. I’m glad she’s doing better now. Living in a mainly catholic area, this makes me nauseous almost, since catholic mass is so silent and people just come and they leave once it ends. All that screaming and all that craziness just baffles me. Yes there can be gossiping but I’ve never seen anything like that. What the heck. There are worse things going on in the catholic church but they’re more about hiding it (still gross). Anyways... my heart goes out to Mary ❤️ and this makes me even more sure about my choice of living my faith at home, no denominations, no “taking communion unworthingly”. No man is going to yell at me for questioning things or protecting my faith. Nope. And I’m too into hair to go around with split ends, or having to wear (I’m a CNA) HOSPITAL SCRUB SKIRTS which apparently are a thing, while pastors go around abusing children.
@vickihayes8121
3 жыл бұрын
What is the "lesbian" spirit? Is that supposed to be a bad thing? If you are not married, and ask questions, does make it a lesbian spirit?
@ServingMyJesus
4 жыл бұрын
That recording is absolutely insulting to Jesus, to Mary and any right thinking member of that congregation.
@CKoinonia1
4 жыл бұрын
For those interested, you can read some of Mary's story at www.spiritualabuse.org/experiences/upci/marys_part1.html - The link to part two, as well as her blog writings, are in this article. You can also watch some additional videos that Mary did for me during the time her former church in Junction City was going through a huge scandal. You won't see her face in these. kzitem.info/news/bejne/lmtup3lsgnyHd34
@chainedambassador
3 жыл бұрын
Not to rebuke, but I can give an example of a time a church cast out and rebuked, then opened their arms. It was a church I grew up in. They confronted a man on a sin, and he refused to repent. They told him to stop coming. After a while, he came back admitting to what he did, and everyone took him back in. It can be dangerous to generalize things.
@GigiRocks1969
3 жыл бұрын
Your story breaks my heart and I’m SO sorry for everything you have been through. I pray the Lord continues to heal your heart and fills your heart with His peace. I also pray you find a safe place to land someday that teaches the truth of God’s love and grace through the blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit comforts you while you heal. Much love to you, Mary. ❤️
@amandachristianson2402
9 ай бұрын
The man is so demonic! I’m stunned. I wanna pray about this. I’m so sorry this happened to you. I pray for your healing.
@murrayritter
7 ай бұрын
Same issue at my old upc church
@ruking9593
3 жыл бұрын
Happy for your freedom
@ruking9593
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Born Again Believer
@longstreet2740
4 жыл бұрын
There are some Baptists who preach similar
@Perennialmillennial
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Appreciate your work.
@OurHumbleLife
4 жыл бұрын
I'm really angry! How dare he!
@murrayritter
7 ай бұрын
My old upc church was same with FB!
@MckenzieD21
2 ай бұрын
It definitely gets SO old being literally SCREAMED at every. single. sermon. just about you know lol and I understand that’s just apart of the Pentecostal “culture” it’s just their particular style of preaching but still yet. My heart just goes out to women who are subdued to this mentality in such an oppressive type of way “it’s in your Bible shut your mouth when I’m speaking” oh my word and it’s like, is that the same demeanor you have towards your MOTHER?! No I wouldn’t think so bc that she is your mother so you of course have this thing called RESPECT for her and the same should go for your own wife as well and women period it’s just ridiculous but goes to show how egotistical that they are and also sexist but those verses in the Bible never sat right with me either (Eph 5:25) women are to be submissive to their husbands and like that verse in Timothy how women are to keep quiet in the church but apparently that was a cultural thing bc in those times when the Bible was written, it was a problem that the church was having back when Timothy wrote that... women wouldn’t be quiet they would just interrupt the service or something because I’ve definitely questioned that myself like woah something about this isn’t right but we aren’t to “question” because God’s ways are higher and bla bla bla lol. It’s just error after error in this organization like why is it even an organization to begin with? Hmmm maybe that right there let’s you know everything you needa know. I feel so sorry for this lady and the men who stood behind this coward are no better. Sheesh what ashame and it’s church for crying out loud which makes it that much more awful. **I will go so far as to say it’s a blessing in disguise she did not get married while being in the UPC- I’m sure that not all men in this church carry this exact narcissistic mindset though but wow... scary.
@jenniferrothenbach1584
2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry for what you went through. My former pastor was very close friends with Edwin Young. He had him preach at our church right before like maybe 2 months before It came out about Edwin young was grooming young women. I left my church about a year and half. It’s crazy to think how I thought these kind of church was normal. I’m so glad I left. 😞
@TheEddie1963
3 жыл бұрын
Jesus had a beard because scriptures said they plucked his beard
@TheEddie1963
3 жыл бұрын
Christian means Christ like
@TheEddie1963
3 жыл бұрын
true Christians do not abuse and if they do they will need to apologize to a person and they are required to repent to God or they could be lost
@patriciajoyner9871
3 жыл бұрын
Wow we..
@garytodd501
3 жыл бұрын
Wow that got me hot and ready to fight lol I would not want to be that man or any man that abuses and try’s to control people like that when he stands before God I’m sure God is not pleased with this I pray that she heals and keeps the faith praying for God bless
@shellminyard6890
4 жыл бұрын
Wow I digress! I do not believe that God would expect a person to sit and listen to that I don’t want to sound disrespectful of the office that man holds at all however I felt sorrow for the women in that church being called prostitute and lesbian and ‘shut your mouth!’ According to the Bible, God was no where near that. The man sounds like he hates women. Does he have a mother in that congregation? That just saddened me and made me thankful for my pastor and his wife
@ruking9593
3 жыл бұрын
I've been there.. cringing.. so sad... it's true God loves you..
@elizarodriguez2876
4 жыл бұрын
I too am sorry this happened to you. His way of publically humiliating you was so wrong. Please consider "as a man sows so shall he reap" it does seem like God did "take care of the situation" and allowed this man to reap humiliation for his sown humiliation, and his shame was far greater than yours. "Pray for those who despitefully use you" he despitefully used you to make his point in church. It was wrong but I do hope you have forgiven him, and forgiven yourself for falling prey so that you are able to heal. God is our healer. He is faithful. Continue to seek complete restoration. Please don't allow the enemy to hinder your relationship with God regarding prayer, fasting & the word of God. Some things are only accomplished by prayer, fasting & standing on God's promises. Keep looking to him, the author and finisher of our faith. God bless you.
@judybaird7842
3 жыл бұрын
I have been staying home because of covid and I’m looked at being wrong for it.
@ResponsibleFaith
3 жыл бұрын
Staying home from church is not "wrong", nor is traditional church even required in scripture as a matter of salvation. Nothing we see modeled in scripture looks exactly like "church" does today. Gathering with believers is encouraged (Heb 10:24-25) for encouragement and spurring one another on to good works...but that can be done in many ways. It's wise to use the common sense God gave us. These things were written to be applied during normal circumstances, not endangering our health and breaking the law during a global pandemic. If you don't feel comfortable attending church services in person right now, it's your business (and other people need to mind their own). I personally wouldn't be attending church right now, it's wise to be careful.
@deborahzamora5475
3 жыл бұрын
Wow how sick distorted ..
@randomangie114
5 ай бұрын
So sad how many (not all) pentecostal preachers talk (really scream and yell) like this from the pulpit. How damaging :(
@maryallen1757
3 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness my dad wasn’t like the dominant male boss. He. Adored my mom.
@Star-dj1kw
3 жыл бұрын
To Mary: I suggest reading Stephen Tracy’s book “Mending the Soul” on your healing journey. It addresses all types of abuse 💗
@patienceoneil3673
3 жыл бұрын
Word!!!!!!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡 I must have a lesbian spirit because this makes me hate a thing or two!
@ResponsibleFaith
3 жыл бұрын
I know, hearing that audio clip makes me so angry every time I listen to it. I can't imagine how humiliating that must have been for Mary.
@toripayne1802
4 жыл бұрын
This is disgusting
@ruking9593
3 жыл бұрын
Jesus is Our Eternal resting place now and forever ❣️
@shirleyross4314
4 жыл бұрын
That pastor sounds just like a heathen.
@ServingMyJesus
4 жыл бұрын
Mary has just confirmed what I have said about the word 'Christian.@
@deniwilli
4 жыл бұрын
Wow... this just disgusts me.
@Star-dj1kw
3 жыл бұрын
That pastors rant was so horrifying that I had to skip through parts of it. GROSS 🤮
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