I use to have a TORO Force 12s and let me tell you, I was absolutely blown away with how great that sub performed for how little it cost! I highly recommend giving this new brand a chance!
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@BenaresDarkness
3 жыл бұрын
It's Massive audio they just made a new line of subs with a whole other brand.
@user-qm5wh3ut7z
2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 forces 8s and those little subs hurt ur ears lol
@brentspellmeyer8943
3 жыл бұрын
Foam may be absorbing some of the potential being used as a spacer
@travisbarrow3408
3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@jondoe6618
3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Impressed with the force. Great un biased video as always my man!!
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@ApEsXiT
3 жыл бұрын
Good job with this video. Looks like you are really honing your editing skills and makes for a more enjoyable video. Some of the stock footy is a lil cheesy but whatevs man BIG PROPS!
@jonadkins9339
3 жыл бұрын
I think a low frequency burp would have been good data to have as well. Great video!
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@adaboy4z
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah can't wait to see next test. Hit them with their max rms power see what happens in a proper enclosure as you stated. Good video!
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@onemanwithatractor2800
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure one company makes all 3 of these woofers in the same warehouse 🤣
@thirstquencher3203
3 жыл бұрын
I heard massive audio 15s in a demo and they sound Good!! It must have been a custom box because they honestly didn't sound as bad as I have heard with other brands..
@thetruth7839
3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a shallow mount subwoofer comparison you know JL DD audio Rockford Fosgate kicker scar Infinity they all have shallow mount Subs
@bryanmayes9234
2 жыл бұрын
Word. Some of us have pickups and kids lol need to tuck that shit.
@brysondavila1686
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brotha forreal, been waiting for this video for a minute
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Not a problem. I had fun doing it for you guys
@CustomAudiobyJD
3 жыл бұрын
Well given what power each sub will take , efficiency is gonna win this battle at same power level
@onsightaudio7860
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I have a 141.9 from a Avatar SST 301D2
@jeffreycarroll9956
3 жыл бұрын
Great video man, keep up the great content!
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, more to come!
@teeone10
3 жыл бұрын
im really digging this comparison, love it. Its just something about that toro i like.i saw this video, had to click on it
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@agma3996
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, really needed that info, I appreciate it.
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!👍
@mr.numbers6174
3 жыл бұрын
Use a aeroport or( round)vs a slot , a round port you can change in minutes and have all sorts of ports to switch out..
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
This is true. Good tip.
@laurantsmccloskey5927
3 жыл бұрын
just finished a system on my 2021 hrv, the rockford t122d 479 dolllar sub i was using in another vehicle is blown af with the voice coil rubbing horribly in the new box.....ordered this toro force 12 last night, we'll see how it does for a couple hundred bucks less...
@laurantsmccloskey5927
3 жыл бұрын
been in there for like a week now, much quicker than any other 12"sub I've used in the last 30 years. we'll see how it holds up, but it's not even broken in fully yet & I'm very impressed. I still go back & forth about whether I shoulda used the xfl & maybe the xfl woulda been even better but that 53 lb weight of the toro was what helped me decide to go with it...you wont be disappointed buying the toro or the xfl i suppose, the massive audio sub just seems a bit too pricey when compared to the toro & xfl really
@Miloittybittyboom
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again BB .... your videos are so informative... I've learned so much from your channel... my 6th order boxes are amazing based on some of the things you teach... and my 6.5 TOROs in a duel 6th order box sounds SO good.... and I currently have my FORCE 12S in a 4th order (temporary while I build another 6th order for the 12s) and WOW the 12s gets better and better every day with about a week at 1000-1200RMS tomorrow I'll turn my amp up and really see what the 12s can do... its already a power house of a sub.... all my Toro subs have just blown my mind with performance at a super Budget price... the FORCE 8s are the best 8s I've ever had.... anyway... awesome video keep up the good work BB
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. And glad that you found the videos helpful. Stay tuned. I have more to come.
@mlewis6892
2 жыл бұрын
I recognize my old car , impala and that big ass trunk it had !!! My favorite car ever. But I've been waiting to try the Toros , can't wait til they're on sale again , they're looking for dealers right now and after they secure a couple dealers they're gonna have a big sale again
@bareknuckles3199
2 жыл бұрын
Did you break the subs in before you tested them? It's a must for all and longevity.7-10 hours on half power
@The_Establishment_Is_Satanic
3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video keep up the good work, God bless.
@uzielalvarez54
3 жыл бұрын
Great video bro 🤟 look forward to the next video
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@craftchest
3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at Torotech for a while now. Just haven't had the bravery to try them. Maybe I should try a couple Force 12's after seeing this.
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they will balance fine after a break-in period.
@BenaresDarkness
3 жыл бұрын
I can vouch for the hippo xl I had a 15 not a 12 but it's still a good sub. One of the reasons the xfl was louder than the xl is because the xfl was being pushed harder.
@nismonissan87
2 жыл бұрын
How was it pushed harder it even is 500w less rms than the hippo i have a 10xfl now im about to replace with a 10d2hippo because my xfl is 900 wired to my amp while the hippo will be wired for 1800
@BenaresDarkness
2 жыл бұрын
@@nismonissan87 D2 1500rms sub vs D2 2000rms the 1500 is going to be pushed harder because it is less watts. Also the hippo is stiffer so it's going to take even more to get it moving unlike a soft suspension on the xfl.
@nismonissan87
2 жыл бұрын
@@BenaresDarkness so basically sense its not broken in i love my 10xfl but im going to a hippoxl10d2 very soon
@BenaresDarkness
2 жыл бұрын
@@nismonissan87 Yeah basically. soft is easy to move stiff harder to move.
@juliosandoval8244
3 жыл бұрын
My opinion id take some hippos over alot of the subwoofers out there.my buddy is running 2 15s massive hippos with viking banda 8k.damm its over kill loud.love how it bumps
@crazyvisor9579
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I would go with Toro because it looks the best for me :D tho the scores aren't that great I think you need a more effective box
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Coming in Part 2
@kidsavage86
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats xfl needs at least 2.5 feet min i had mine in a 3.5ft tuned to 32 and my lawd is all i will say
@guyww8516
3 жыл бұрын
The Toro seemed louder out of the box because it has softer spiders. Use the XFL for a week and see what happens if you’re going to make videos please inform the viewers!! You compared three subwoofers without comparing suspensions or anything for that matter
@cjaustin8219
3 жыл бұрын
I just wish i could know if the xr is better,equivalent, or worse than the xfl???
@leonray
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't the XFL do higher in the 6th order reflex box? I would like to see all 3 in a higher tuned box where the Massive and Toro might shine, and how all 3 do. The XFL despite the difference in power handling did great here. Awesome comparison! Thank you good sir!
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and your suggestions are noted.
@GeneG69
3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great videos! Very professional. Only thing I could recommend is getting an SMD to see how much actual RMS power each of these speakers are getting. This way we can see if the manufacturer RMS are real.
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@ascencioespinal8968
3 жыл бұрын
I have a orion XTR 1500.1 Dz which Subwoofer for my honda Pilot will you recomendate for the space a single Subwoofer only one 12”
@alonzofoster519
2 жыл бұрын
The toro or massive..that orion xtr 1500 is a powerful amp
@BoobeeMyles
3 жыл бұрын
What's better Toro amps or Skar amps?
@suazzz3070
3 жыл бұрын
My toro sub came with massive audio shipping tape?
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Most say Massive owns TORO. More details upcoming
@jayajm2
3 жыл бұрын
I noticed the baskets look similar, too
@robertfant4628
3 жыл бұрын
A I need the truth about theses band's. No joke I'm vesting hundreds and thousands and I want great quality for my money without going broke. Not everybody on to the fact that a new brand could be so productive. Some people got sponsors in connection to their KZitem station. Some people are promoting a personal brand of speaker that they're are making. I need a channel that is representational of the car audio industry itself. TORO was one of the band's I was looking at thank for the head to head review and you are honest telling me that the box may be the differences in sound quality for the other 2 speakers that's real so I now follow you channel 😀.
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply and the support!
@michaelgalbert413
3 жыл бұрын
Can you test the Ampere Audio 12s and the Deafbonce 12s?
@jasonmillz8628
Жыл бұрын
Love the outro
@bobswinehart3646
3 жыл бұрын
Lets build a decaware death box and then put double the rms!
@kidsavage86
3 жыл бұрын
Toro is big in brooklyn but secretly it’s modeled after American bass
@MESSIAH365
Жыл бұрын
Idk fam I’m in the stuy we all rockin with American bass and Massive
@kidsavage86
Жыл бұрын
@@MESSIAH365 all I run is ab I'm in east Flatbush all these store got is massive and kicker no American bass in stock only vip be on they game
@inzyyn2895
2 жыл бұрын
You should add genesys g2 12" to the comparison.
@pristinendungu2231
3 жыл бұрын
Very outstanding professional job .
@pristinendungu2231
3 жыл бұрын
How much will it cost me if you personally ship a 12" massive audio GTX124 , GTXSeries 1400watts, DVC 4Ohm to Nairobi Kenya?
@RyanBassForLife
2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done
@kiwianthony3878
3 жыл бұрын
The toro and the massive basically the same woofer
@ceciljones1248
11 ай бұрын
I have the massive xlr 12s hippos and they are good for high frequency they are 42 hertz so the lowest you want to make your enclosure is 38 hertz anything lower doesn't sound deep i have sundown xv3 12s psi platform 4 15 dd3515 fi neo 4.11 18 and fi hc 15s and top 3 would be dd fi psi sundown then massive this is my experience with different setups and enclosures
@bobyblaccc30
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video presentation. What editor software do you use.
@madein345
3 жыл бұрын
Best video so far stay dated👌
@ROBBG88
3 жыл бұрын
Parker dachille got a 145.3 on a single xfl 12 at 35 hz at the time he was only running a skar 2k nice vide bro
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. And yes, Parker actually had much larger box. More volume equals more SPL. 😁
@ROBBG88
3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetBassHead yea man so how was the toro force s I really want one
@priticalson
3 жыл бұрын
The American Bass XFL is a 1000w sub that can handle up to 1500w. Try the Hawk instead.
@Hertzsogood219
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I reall like the way you explained all the important aspects of all subs. I love American Bass. I nver had a Hippo or a Torex sub but they look badass. I'm with SoundQubed at the moment. They can not only take a serious beating, they sound great. They sound really good in a big box. Do you break in the subs before doing these tests?
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
I personally don't think anyone should have to break in a sub. A subwoofer should perform, as advertised, fresh out the box. Now, if you are someone who wants a softer suspension, a break-in is a great way to go. But I only test 'out-of-box' performance. Thanks.
@Hertzsogood219
3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetBassHead I agree. But I have been with SoundQubed for a while now and you have to break them in because the suspension is so stiff, if you dont, you'll burn the coils and or tear the spiders.
@angsieverz4938
2 жыл бұрын
Which is clean , tight accurate bass?
@jase1911
3 жыл бұрын
Sundown audio vs any of these
@Inferno_C6Z06
3 жыл бұрын
Well duh, but you forgot the mention the major price different my man 😂
@Gorillagtvr1
3 жыл бұрын
That xfl needs a box of 3.5 cf to really get down. The other subs cant compair to it
@BenaresDarkness
3 жыл бұрын
Bullshit the xfl is not as loud I had a hippo xl and it's much louder than that xfl.
@paulcherry1520
3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to get one of these beast soon as my xfl died it was old and coil was black when I got it damn it and I bumped it for 2 years and it died sucks assss!!!
@user-ws1ob2hs5s
3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s supposed to be black. The black glue is what you want on a coil
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
@Goose Poose you are correct. This is a black aluminum voice coil. It has a higher heat tolerance.
@atmosphericpressure3560
3 жыл бұрын
Great job man. #production
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@yosefalabed296
3 жыл бұрын
Xfl is the best 👌 ❤
@BLACKRAIN390
3 жыл бұрын
YEP, I GOT 4 IN THE TRUNK OF MY 73 VERT
@mattsnider5904
Жыл бұрын
Parker the basshead got the XFL to hit 145.6. Not sure the wattage though
@BudgetBassHead
Жыл бұрын
Parker has an SUV and a Pickup. He's not restricted to the trunk. Trunk builds, traditionally, doesn't do the same SPL numbers as SUV's, pickups and Hatchbacks.
@mattsnider5904
Жыл бұрын
He did the Toro 12 in the Suv, but it only hit 138 db. Faced sideways though. That may have skewed the results. Like your videos. Nice to get as much info when buying a sub. Keep it up bro.
@keltonmoon7243
2 жыл бұрын
What’s the most spl 12
@SanceShaji
3 жыл бұрын
Which of these provide best quality sound?
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
They all sound similar. But I like the TORO.
@chevydodge88
3 жыл бұрын
Id recommend getting a better bass knob i had the same one you got failed after 5 months
@bossalinietv1170
3 жыл бұрын
American bass xfl 12 got a new version of the xfl which is 1500 rms watts now
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
That is the only one on this channel. Checkout my playlist for it: kzitem.info/door/PL9kZHk54cMwH8A9a5QWi0Teo7WpvOYtQJ
@skrapie37
3 жыл бұрын
Why dont you have more sub? Amazing review
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I've been wondering the same thing...
@hectorheco5194
3 жыл бұрын
Sold my hippo and ordered 2 AB xrs
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Not a bad choice!
@hectorheco5194
3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetBassHead the cost of the two AB is same as one hippo
@richardg4944
3 жыл бұрын
Toro looks mean but ill go for the xfl as everyday sub
@zyaireesteban3361
3 жыл бұрын
pro trick: watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching a lot of movies recently.
@jakesalvador1583
3 жыл бұрын
@Zyaire Esteban Yea, have been using flixzone} for months myself :)
@jonathansandoval4413
3 жыл бұрын
What app is that ?
@bethanyhaskiell9116
10 күн бұрын
Massive and Toro are the same subs
@clapped_dyna
3 жыл бұрын
Toros like a mixture of the 2 subs😂 same motor and basket as the massive w the american bass surround, best of both worlds
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@418lightning8
3 жыл бұрын
do you have a link for the spl meter i need one for testing
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Links to all products are in the descriptions. SPL-Lab Mini Bass Meter(affiliate): amzn.to/35tudQv
@sdrtech
2 жыл бұрын
The xfl rms is 1000 not 1500
@ALEX-xd7ko
2 жыл бұрын
Seems obvious to me that foam dosent seal the box , nor does every sub work best in the same size box . J.s
This just shows which one performs best in that specific box...
@BudgetBassHead
Жыл бұрын
True.
@boengel5342
Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that it's still a great video thanks for the content.
@theejoeylee
2 жыл бұрын
The XFL and the Toro are almost identical. Must be a different spider
@oriondrake6919
3 жыл бұрын
3:11 wow
@basshead402lincoln
3 жыл бұрын
Xfl are a thing of the past its all about the American bass hawk series
@mikeymike7986
Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who knows their sh*t😃👍👍👍👍👍
@dietrichwilliams2913
3 жыл бұрын
The xfl is out it's league against these two!, the american bass HD would line up better!
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. But everyone wanted the XFL in this one. So I went for it
@waynsmith9538
3 жыл бұрын
XFL 184.00 FORCE 12S 349.00!
@nickolasvaughn667
2 жыл бұрын
American bass for sure
@innerlude
3 ай бұрын
Toro is serious
@RicoJay27
3 жыл бұрын
Wait so you made a video to tell us to watch another video? 🤣🤣
@dead6last
3 жыл бұрын
xfl will be #1 in a bigger box ..
@guyww8516
3 жыл бұрын
This was not any kind of fair test you put Styrofoam around the American bass subwoofer! Enough said
@mikewhite4541
3 жыл бұрын
My single xfl 12 hits harder and lower than my 2 sundown sa12s same truck and the sundowns are getting twice the power. 100% FACTS
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
My SA burned up on me. Never got a chance to really experience them.
@FATHERSOFBASS
3 жыл бұрын
Nice...
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@dead6last
3 жыл бұрын
lower hz burp them
@Wrensspeedshop
3 жыл бұрын
So to Toro just put their dust cap on an American Bass Sub? Reallllllly close to hitting Way too similar copyright and patent infringement. Both subs look mean and I’ve known American bass for 20 something years curious to see how Toro handles itself
@efrainhernandez3371
4 ай бұрын
Factory head unit lol not valid
@BudgetBassHead
4 ай бұрын
Please clarify
@cigar.sports.scentsperry9980
2 жыл бұрын
No sense at all
@downhilldaddy9346
3 жыл бұрын
1st!!!!!
@BudgetBassHead
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! 😎✌
@optimusprimer4392
Жыл бұрын
You want to know the truth brother they all come from the same build house cheap slave labor Subs although they are good and probably worth money for a short term we should still keep investing our money into American car audio companies
@BudgetBassHead
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight
@GTILOUD
Жыл бұрын
Toro is american same as sundown or dd or any others that design here and have them built in China for lower cost.
@guyww8516
3 жыл бұрын
The Toro I have personally purchased and they are garbage, I bought the component speakers also and they were terrible. They are made by the same build house as the massive audio subs.
@AaronClinton
3 жыл бұрын
What was so bad about the Toro? The Force 12S looks like a beast.
@Miloittybittyboom
3 жыл бұрын
I have a FORCE 12S and it is an amazing sub... I've only had it hooked up for a week on a Toro R5 and I thought at 1st it was absolutely amazing,... but every day it gets better and better I think I'll turn my amp up now that I've given it a week at 1000-1200RMS watts... it really seems to be coming alive the more it is breaking in... love my Toro subs....
@rastastorr8342
3 жыл бұрын
Most subs today come from same house build a very few has its own build
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