Just pick up a relatively clean #4, type 16 for $25.00 Thanks for doing the video.
@justplanefun
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@maine420247
Жыл бұрын
You are a gentleman and a scholar! So if you keep this up I won't have to buy the book. Thanks MJ I really appreciate it
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
I’m here for ya buddy!
@AnWe79
2 ай бұрын
Thanks, great info! Just got lucky and won a bid on a No. 5, that I think is a type 16, for a bit under $50. It has a replacement "made in England" blade, kidney lever cap, large brass adjuster. Made in USA behind the knob, no patent dates. No raised rib, but oogee style frog and the other details seem to point to type 16. I guess I'll know more when I've got it in the mail. (I'm gonna use it, so I don't really mind the replacement blade and some other minor flaws. Was mainly loking for the adjustable frog style. I'd have preferred the olders ones with machined lateral locating of the frog, but I think I'll be very happy with this one.)
@AnWe79
2 ай бұрын
It was indeed a type 16, got it today and it's just excellent, minor frog adjustment and then I could take angelhair shavings at the center of the blade. The casting ribs were there, and easy to spot in person, just couldn't tell from the auction photos.
@justplanefun
2 ай бұрын
Sounds like it’ll make a great user plane!!
@brandondeyoung2771
2 ай бұрын
great video!
@justplanefun
2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@upsidedowndog1256
Жыл бұрын
Crazy how many variations there are! Based on this all of my planes are type 15 or earlier except for the 5 1/4 that I just bought from you. Very plased with it, thanks!
@peterjones958
Жыл бұрын
Very informative as are all your vids,.I know nothing about typing these later model Stanley planes but this video has definitely helped a lot. Thank you for sharing,
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@haroldschultz5864
Жыл бұрын
Very instructive as usual my friend . Your format packs a lot of easy to follow, good stuff . Thanks for all the hard work you put in . Bless up !
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Now I just gotta stay focused and get the type 17 video together sooner than later
@Membee
Жыл бұрын
Thanks MJ another great video where I learnt a lot of info.
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@joseffroula7415
Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Always excellent content. Always really informative. Thank you so much.
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Be sure to let me know if you ever have any questions. I’m not scared of doing a little research 🧐 🤓
@williamshaffer2562
Жыл бұрын
Another great video MJ. Keep them coming. Hope you are well my friend.
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill! Hope you’re well as well (that’s a deep subject).
@What_Other_Hobbies
Жыл бұрын
I guess it's cold there now. I have seen some type 16s with SW blades, probably left over inventory from type 15 ear. Never knew about the 3 digits on the back of blades.
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Roger K. Smith says the SW irons stuck around for the first 3 years of Type 16. Thru 1936
@StefanTarras
Жыл бұрын
Great video MJ. Thanks as always for the hard work and very detailed breakdowns. . I just picked up a 5C and everything points to type 16 except the non nickel plated lever cap and it has a Sweetheart iron with 142 stamped on the back. The iron is ground with a big camber for heavy work so it may be a replacement or secondary iron. Perhaps the fact that it's made in Canada throws things off as well. But it's in such great shape I'm thinking (hoping) everything is OG. I'm stoked to put it to work!
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct about the made in Canada planes following a different track. If there is a type study on the Canadian made Stanleys, I’ve never seen it. Having said that, I’m confident that lots of features would have carried over. One thing I have heard is that in Canada they kept the SW logo on the planes for a few years longer than the ones in the states
@jerryhoogeveen
Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh kidney bean caps my favorite! I just completed my full set after many years of searching. They get a bad rap from collectors but they work great
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Stanley Works was pretty proud of em when they came out in ‘33! Like a lot of folks, I like the older, keyhole style cap the kidney holes do work great!
@RTIZONI
10 сағат бұрын
MJ, please give your opinion. I have a no. 4, it has a key hole lever cap and a body without the raised rib. The blade has a BB trademark. The plane doesn't look like it was used too much, the wood parts are not wear as it would be if the blade was a replacement. What would you call it, a type 15 or 16? Thank you.
@snellscroft
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting as usual, thanks
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻. I appreciate you watching and I appreciate the comment too
@randygust3423
Жыл бұрын
Great video - appreciate the info!
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
No problem! I appreciate you tuning in
@tonylenge424
Жыл бұрын
Good video! The book looks terrific but it is tough to get and expensive. Thanks
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely correct. They can be hard to find. I got lucky and bought a beat up copy on eBay. I recommend setting up an alert on eBay and maybe one on Abe Books if you’re really wanting to pick up a copy. Or just keep watching these videos 🤓
@LessTalkMoreDelicious
Жыл бұрын
I got a #6 USA, seller said it’s type 15. But it has kidney hole, nickel, OG frog, and also the huge front pads for frog interface. It has dark red handles too (rosewood or stained?). All brass HW. Lateral lever logo looks like type 15/16.
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Feel free to shoot me some pics to jplanefun@gmail.com if you have any specific questions
@jnrmrtn
3 ай бұрын
I know this video has been up for a couple years, but it just helped me positively identify the plane I just picked up at a flea market. This was super educational, and I appreciate the level of detail as I struggled to determine if this plane was a 15 or 16. Everything points to type 16 with 442 on the back of the iron. However, the adjustment knob is only 1 inch. Is this period correct, or is it likely that someone replaced this with an older part? My tote screw is also one piece (definitely not original) and poorly fit. Time to go searching for a real screw.
@justplanefun
3 ай бұрын
I probably have the correct hardware you need for your tote. If it’s one piece then it may be from a type 17 (all steel) As for the 1” adjuster - is it brass or steel? The most common brass we see on type 16s is 1 1/4” You can reach me at jplanefun@gmail.com or find me on FB at Just Plane Fun - the parts division
@MrMeds-of5ur
Жыл бұрын
Got 3 type 16, those and a #8 that’s a type 9 are the oddballs in my sweetheart collection.
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Throw some SW irons in those type 16s and call em early ones! Problem solved
@MrMeds-of5ur
Жыл бұрын
@@justplanefun 😂
@derekdolecki2759
Жыл бұрын
Great video
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Derek!
@markluxton3402
Жыл бұрын
I thought I just restored a type 17 #5, but it looks just like the type 16's you are describing.
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
It can get a little tricky sometimes but hopefully these videos will help make everything more clear.
@paulanderson1915
8 ай бұрын
Is it possible for a type 16 #5 to have a small blade adjustment knob? PS great channel, liked and subscribed!
@justplanefun
8 ай бұрын
As far as I know, Stanley never sold them with a small adjuster. It’s entirely possible that a previous owner could have swapped it out though. Maybe they lost the original and replaced it, or maybe they preferred the smaller brass.
@waynerobinson4730
Жыл бұрын
I have a Canadian made no 4 1/2 with the boss and ring and no heel or toe line. Lever cap is plated, with patent number. The sole casting has the type 16 frog receiver. My iron is marked "Made in Can" with the SW logo and is stamped 337 for 3rd quarter of 1937, so I think you're correct about Canada keeping the logo longer. Has any study been done comparing the castings from different countries? My two Canadian planes, the 4 1/2 and 5 both end up with the exposed metal on the castings turning black. My Made in England and USA Stanleys stored in the same place and treated the same way stay bright.
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know of anyone that has researched plane soles from the different manufacturing locations to compare differences. Finding a few English-made planes here and there is common but finding enough to do an in-depth comparison might be tough
@waynerobinson4730
Жыл бұрын
@@justplanefun I'm in Australia, I see English and Canadian made Stanleys all over the place. Made in USA is usually only the later versions.
@leslieandrews6324
10 ай бұрын
I think my # 7 is a Hines 57 plain, my lever cap has a U & the Pat. # 1918750, the iron has 443
@justplanefun
10 ай бұрын
Sounds like your iron is from 4th Qtr, 1943. It’s not uncommon for parts to get mixed around between planes - after 50, 70, 100 years, etc, anything could happen
@thewalnutwoodworker6136
Жыл бұрын
In my experience really anything up to type 19 is a wonderful plane. My dumb ass removed the nickel and paint from my type 16 when I first started. I was under he impression that this was not original.
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
I’ll bet we all have a story like that of something we did when we first started out. Sounds like you just turned it into a type 17 cap! 😉 I agree that they all make good users but I’m hung up on my type 11s and of course Lie Nielsens 😎
@thewalnutwoodworker6136
Жыл бұрын
@@justplanefun Type 12-15 is better!
@mikefick6725
Жыл бұрын
I have a made in Canada #4 with the raised boss on the tote and knob but not the raised line on the toe or heel It has the non plated lever cap with the kidney bean hole, the type 16 frog with adjuster, frog adjustment screw, large brass adjustment knob, fancy brass nuts on the furniture, no patent numbers or dates Stanley made in canada on the iron. Interesting trying to figure out canadian planes nobody seems to know really
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
The way I understand it is - they mostly followed the USA made features with a few exceptions. For example, if I’m not mistaken, they kept the SW logo longer than the USA versions did.
@jasonhoward279
Жыл бұрын
Are those totes Interchangeable even though there are difference?
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
For the most part, totes from about type 10 or 11 thru about type 19 can be swapped one for one. Type 20s may work as well but the later ones had a rounded over top so it may sit a little higher.
@SleeperHoundDesign
Жыл бұрын
I have a stanly plane no 4 with OG frog but it has a keyhole instead of the kidney hole. No raised rib on the back of the handle. I'm so confused 😂
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like it may have some mismatched parts. I have kidney hole lever caps available
@j.d.1488
Жыл бұрын
MJ thanks. Problem in wild is that so many have different parts on various planes. Drives me crazy and makes it tough. Need to write the rules down. Always want the users with a frog adjustment screw. Thank you I would love if you have ever did or will do block planes.
@justplanefun
Жыл бұрын
Feel free to shoot me pics anytime. Or post em on FB. We can help figure out what’s correct and what’s not. I definitely need to do a block plane related video. I probably don’t have the stuff to a really in-depth type study video on a particular block plane but I could probably do an overview of a lot of the different block planes Stanley offered
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