Can I just say how refreshing it is to see a content creator speaking common sense without trying to be ultra dramatic and exaggerated? I wish this style was more popular on KZitem.
@kroduk2400
6 ай бұрын
+1
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
+2
@mmapedro321
6 ай бұрын
Finally brother. Join us in star citizen. You will love it
@Les_256
6 ай бұрын
Wait for Star Citizen patch 3.23, it should be live on may/june, it's getting a lot of things that were done for Squadron 42 so it will feel, almost, like a finished game. You will be blown off by what we already have, there's nothing like SC.
@bakad7424
6 ай бұрын
Nothing like it indeed. No loading screens. Some 30k servers but that’s the beauty of alpha. I lost a full load on my reclaimer and said fudge it and did it again lol. I love this game!
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
3.23 is still official for April. But yes, reservation should apply.
@danc42421
6 ай бұрын
@@bakad7424 And in 3.23 we'll see the 30K Recovery where we hopefully will continue playing after the server recovers, making 30ks only an inconvenience!
@bronson2585
6 ай бұрын
I was bored with new world and gave it a try. Entry price was $45 so not too bad. Ended up putting in like 300 hrs so definitely worth the price. Obviously not perfect, has lots of bugs
@dmitrit.4862
6 ай бұрын
Well yeah it's still work in progress. I started with 45$ and ended up being a concierge. Spent hundreds of hours with my buddies (playing with others is way more fun).
@guitar_allstar
4 ай бұрын
I'm pressing X to doubt. There isn't 300 hours worth of stuff to do.
@dmitrit.4862
4 ай бұрын
@@guitar_allstar I wonder how many hours I put in it...most likely way beyond 500. It always depends on who you're with. Playing solo will become boring eventually. Playing with your best friends is a different thing.
@guitar_allstar
4 ай бұрын
@@dmitrit.4862 There's too many good and complete games out there to give Star Citizen any more of my time or money. At least that's what I decided several years ago. My opinion could change but there's way too much controversy around this game.
@dmitrit.4862
4 ай бұрын
@@guitar_allstar That's totally fine if you ask me. It's your money and your time, therefore you're the one who decides how to spend it. And as for the controversy, I would be careful with some of the statements that are being made about Star Citizen. Some people say things that are simply not true or are exaggerated.
@JonnyTheKidd.
6 ай бұрын
how could it ever have been a scam, you can play it and watch development. and you never even need to buy a ship wiuth real money if you dont want to. been part of star citizen since 2013 never once thought it was a scam
@CasualWatcher279
6 ай бұрын
Plus this, though to be pedantic you have to buy your first ship
@BGIANAKy
6 ай бұрын
Because people have really low IQs
@sickbreed66
6 ай бұрын
Most people don't realize Chris has wanted to make this game since before Freelancer...maybe even since they made WC Privateer...If Microsoft would have gave them a little more time Freelancer would still be a thing...well there are still servers but not official.
@JonnyTheKidd.
6 ай бұрын
@@CasualWatcher279 you buy the right to test. cheaper than a triple A game, it comes with a ship, and a copy of squadron 42 when it releases
@JonnyTheKidd.
6 ай бұрын
@@CasualWatcher279 you buy the right to test. you get a package with a ship, and a copy of squadron 42 when it releases for less than a triple A game, if you buy the 45$ pledge. its like buying a shooter game and saying i had to buy a gun!
@NiceB4dge
6 ай бұрын
I've been following (and then playing) the project since its announcement in 2012, and I'm tired of both clueless fanboys as well as the clickbait disinformation-filled cult-like haters of this game who are somehow still obsessed by it... So 99% of the time when I see a video talking about SC from someone who doesn't play, I expect the usual bashing, "scam" allegations without proof, faked indignation, and gross lies about the project coming from a place of ignorance and sensationalism... But I'm glad I clicked on your video ! It's so freaking REFRESHING to see a balanced, neutral take on this project, just the actual news with your sane opinion, not overhyping it, not hating or lying about it !
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
He done good, didn't he!
@vorpalrobot
6 ай бұрын
Star Citizen taps into a place where you thought games were gonna go when you were a kid. Instead of higher res textures or actor facial capture (which it has) it's more about when you first landed on the Halo and fantasized about driving off into that skybox to see the rest of the ring, or sneak aboard a covenant drop ship to see it go back to the alien fleet.
@Malkaras
6 ай бұрын
I am an original Backer and have spent an unhealthy amount of Money on Ship packages. The Alpha Play tests have been great and over all, I love the feel of the game. I have had the most fun with the Multi-Crew ships and group missions.
@rhetor4mentor13
6 ай бұрын
Based take! It's great to see a content creator openly admit what they are not sure of and provide a balanced opinion. You probably should try the game when you can, especially in a couple of months time when 3.23 is out. The learning curve is steep, and owing to its alpha state it lacks the polish, hand-holding, and content necessary for a wide audience...but there's actually plenty to try and do, and a pretty unique experience that's enticing to anyone who's dreamed of living the life of a space adventurer.
@kroduk2400
6 ай бұрын
Nice comment.. I have the feeling Jay is thinking "scam citizen" but is open minded.. he's not eating that PR blindly.. loved his take!
@arcadealchemist
6 ай бұрын
the thing that will make Star citizen unique is the scalablity being the modular part so having near infinite expantion worlds on demand CIG could become a PLATFORM provider for indi studios looking to make games with the star engin as GAME WORLDS imagine a planet but it's PALWORLD.
@bakad7424
6 ай бұрын
You’re onto something. Hopefully that’s the case and developers look into it!
@arcadealchemist
6 ай бұрын
you should see what i've been working on
@Nate88it
6 ай бұрын
Great description of the current and future state of Star Citizen. I have actively played and followed the game for many years. Nearly everything you mention is spot on. Something most people not following the game closely tend to miss is that you no longer need to buy expensive ships. Nearly every ship can be purchased in-game with a reasonable amount of grinding. A starter ship package is truly all you need now to get going.
@mitchmonroe2152
6 ай бұрын
Man, I am an early Kick Start backer and can't wait for this to finally come out.
@MrAbram94
6 ай бұрын
Been playing it on and off for more then 2 years, it already can have amazing moments and be very fun. Also it can be very frustrating, but its only going to get better.
@TheWasd1234
6 ай бұрын
Its awesome. If youre on the fence, id wait till end of the year for the big updates to kick in
@sickbreed66
6 ай бұрын
Wait until 3.23 has been out 4-5 weeks so maybe middle of may...
@KyleParkin-z9j
6 ай бұрын
If you have not played yet I would wait till end of April for 3.23 update. See what happens with that update. Its going to be huge update for QOL if it goes well. But if it does not go well it will be a indicator to not jump in yet.
@dunkingaround
6 ай бұрын
probably late may
@TheCoreGameplay
6 ай бұрын
If you want to dive in and play hit me up. I'll definitely show you around. Just recently been playing myself. Great video and was very surprised when I saw it
@Jonwhiskers
6 ай бұрын
Keep the good work Jay. I'm just hope to watching u playing different game apart from nw u always provide a great content is just nw isn't it and is a shame u can't see it. Keep the good work and don't sink with nw
@JClif
6 ай бұрын
I enjoy Star Citizen. Its still a work in progress but it is amazing
@MS-wz9jm
6 ай бұрын
Star citizen already is a game. Its out there, you can go play it. Basically its in early access.
@jw9700
6 ай бұрын
You look like a skinnier version of Rich Evans from RedLetterMedia
@Vioblight
6 ай бұрын
MIGHT NOT. We will find out this year if they deliver on promises without marketing bullshit. So far… year has been marketing bullshit and things promised unfinished on Evocati and not the Pu. They are 3/12’s of the way through the year they better fucking shape up quick!
@trinityx3o522
6 ай бұрын
Are you actually following up on the development of the project or just assuming any info on half baked articles put out by mainstream gaming news outlets as the truth? Squadron 42 is now in polishing, as a result of which majority of the workforce is now working on the PU content, 3.23 is already shaping to be the biggest patch content wise, Server Meshing tests were done in Evocati where they tested jump from the Stanton system to the Pyro system for the first time, with max player cap of 350 in a single shard.
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
Not sure why you're holding them to anything this year. They made no promises for this year. The only thing I know of with a "possibilty" stated by CIG this summer, is server meshing, Pyro, Alpha 4.0. Which are all linked to one patch.
@trinityx3o522
6 ай бұрын
@@festersmith8352 With how tests for SM are going, I'm more than confident of Pyro & SM coming this year, most likely before CitCon
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
@@trinityx3o522 I'm optimistic as well. Still, CIG never promised it. They only said, they hoped to have it by then. Every anticipated game I have seen in the past 6 or so years, gets met with hate when they delay it. Then when it releases half baked and buggy, the same community gets mad, and claims the devs were lazy, or should have taken more time. You can't win the gamers. Its ready when its ready.
@tedlogan4867
6 ай бұрын
It's been bogged down in international lawsuits Spanning the E.U., the USA and Asia for over a decade now. Many of these suits have only recently been either settled or dismissed, freeing RSI up to finally engage with markets without penalty from various agencies.
@rory-red
6 ай бұрын
a lawsuit isnt stopped their Development you weird. they Owned Crisis engine now called the StarEngine
@tedlogan4867
6 ай бұрын
@@rory-red I never said "a lawsuit" and "stopped their development". It has been 70 separate suits and actions, in courts from California to Belgium to Seoul to Tokyo to Belfast to Sydney.
@BlaHawhi
6 ай бұрын
those first statements are not mutually exclusive my dude
@ivannedelchev7904
4 ай бұрын
sometime in the foreseeable future , not in the never 😅
@orleansjunky4074
6 ай бұрын
😂all I heard was I don't know, and I'm no expert 😂😂😂😂😂
@jayoddity
6 ай бұрын
I said it! If people want me to pretend I know what I am talking about when I don't, I can do it. I'd rather be honest. I can't reasonably be expected to know everything about every MMO but I am trying.
@Ultrajamz
6 ай бұрын
I’d say within a few years… not a scam.
@christopherwells4253
6 ай бұрын
Or is it comming out quite soon? Definitely not a closed beta. Sooo coming out is a bit vague.
@PixPunxel
6 ай бұрын
They had free week month or two ago. The game is so good that I downloaded that huge 100gb download. Played for 20 minutes and uninstalled.
@ggoddkkiller1342
6 ай бұрын
They only announced there will be 1.0 version without any dates or anything. The company also ''let go'' dozens of people who have been working on the game for a decade. It must be so terrible working on a project for a decade and getting fired just before release aka receiving some bonuses. Honestly despite so many fanboys i couldn't care less if they can finally release the game or not, they are scammers in my eyes. If they weren't they wouldn't sell ships in an online game anyway..
@davidpledger1874
6 ай бұрын
So brains how would they keep up funding for the 2 games?
@ggoddkkiller1342
6 ай бұрын
@@davidpledger1874 So brains what about not making two games at same time? It wouldn't also take decades to release, right??
@davidpledger1874
6 ай бұрын
@@ggoddkkiller1342You were slagging cig off for selling in game items, so how would you even fund making one game with out selling them pixels brains
@ggoddkkiller1342
6 ай бұрын
@@davidpledger1874 Says the fanboy! There are dozens of games which done it. Then they made almost a billion dollars, A BILLION DOLLARS! But somehow according to pixel brain fanboys they still need to sell more and bigger ships and make more money!! You are just a joke same as star citizen...
@evanmartin1271
6 ай бұрын
They only let them go because they didn't want move to Manchester, which is where their new office is. And the game costs 45 dollars for the entire thing but you don't like talking about that aspect of it. And they didn't "announce" 1.0, that was always coming. It wasn't an announcement it was talking about how they get there, why would they "announce" the fact the game is gonna be finished one day.
@Princepsterra
6 ай бұрын
I spent 800 euros and I'll eat a broom if it's a scam
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
I stick my finger down your throat and catch it if you need. I'm wwwwaaayyy past you, and got my money out of it. Plus the best online friendships one could ask for. This game weeds out or exposes the crap character that can be found in online gaming. Oh, and thanks for your contribution to making one of my long time dreams come true! See you in the verse!
@jonesythejoner
6 ай бұрын
Sunk cost fallacy, prepare your broom.
@Princepsterra
6 ай бұрын
@@jonesythejoner 😂It's next to me, watching
@cmdrlincolnf.sternn6677
6 ай бұрын
Yea, because Chris never lies...right?..never..right?
@1STB11TME
6 ай бұрын
Play the game then do a follow up video, Its been playable to 10 years or so. I only started putting much more time in recently and i ended up buying a high end dual joystick setup for it. There is so much to do in its current state, for the sake of £40 you get much more gameplay that triple A titles. Get in the verse and enjoy. I backed the game 10 years ago and i am happy i did.
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
$40 for the game, half grand for controls, is the only way to fly. Remember what you paid for it 10 years ago, and what you are getting today, without being required to pay more for it?
@1STB11TME
6 ай бұрын
@festersmith8352 I think it was about £60 back then but that included Squadron I think, my joysticks are closer to a grand, best way to play the game though. But game is definitely worth it, wasn't that much to do 10 years ago lol.
@ImAnA--hole
4 ай бұрын
@@festersmith8352you don't need to buy fancy controls. They are very fun to use but you can also use controller and kbm.
@MrLeandrus
6 ай бұрын
"Eve online" uses Server meshing, and all servers are interconnected in 1 massive universe. They increase the core count and servers when there are massive battles, like 1k to 2k+ players. But they ask the big alliances that will attack other big ones, to let them know ahead of time so they can server balance the load of so many players in 1 system.
@evanmartin1271
6 ай бұрын
They have to slow down time to make it work tho. Star Citizen isn't like that.
@ImAnA--hole
4 ай бұрын
The difference is that Star Citizen server meshing is seamless. There is no time slowing or some type of loading screen.
@MrLeandrus
4 ай бұрын
@@ImAnA--hole but have you ever had fights in Star Citizen with thousands of players in the same system? like 1.5k to 3k players? can their system handle battles like that? I don't even think there are Titan/MOtherships type of Capital ships where other ships can dock in space to the Titan or to Super carriers. So battle are not as huge as they are in EveOnline. So this means servers have never been hammered down :)
@dragonfalcon8474
6 ай бұрын
Jay! You just popped up on my KZitem recommendations! I quit New World a long time ago and never went back. Good to see you again sir! Hope all is well.
@rakugothdajjal527
6 ай бұрын
Just so everyone's aware, the development basically restarted when CIG saw how much funding the game was receiving. It wasn't originally going to be the fully open sadbox like it is now. The plan was going to be that we'd be in space then loaded into a small section of a planet through a cutscene. We can now fully explore space and full planets with no loading screens. The scope really has changed from a game to a universe simulator
@IndigoSun-hz6cq
6 ай бұрын
Unlike Starfield.
@j.d.4697
6 ай бұрын
"Is SC a scam or is it coming out quite soon?!" Neither
@soyllpapi942
6 ай бұрын
all aboard the hype train.... naysayers are welcome, you'll get on sooner or later anyway ;)
@oracka2289
6 ай бұрын
Neither END OF video
@arcadealchemist
6 ай бұрын
Spectrim is a social credit platform run by furries
@FusionThunder
6 ай бұрын
Great that you're covering it Jay. I love Star Citizen
@DMM_Fan
6 ай бұрын
They are actually creating Star Engine. This engine has better tech tha nUE5 for space type of games. And now they are creating Foundation to handle big Worlds ? Dragons Dogma 2 on UE5 still can't handle more NPCs at once ... I wonder how starcitizen solved this problem.
@greggeroni2180
6 ай бұрын
I personally do not think now is the right time for you to jump in, as a backer who also is a huge mmo player (played new world but left a little after brimstone) it's need a bit more polish and content loop. If you have extreme patience and get a fun group to play it's fun for a bit but certainly not a game to main. Hoping after IAE this year, the game is going to be in a great spot bc the updates that have been coming all are moving in the right direction, with that said id wait until the end of this year, there will be a ton of hype once IAE hits and you could reasonably make a ton of content surrounding it.
@krazee1234
6 ай бұрын
Nah, it really is a scam, probably another $600 mill available from suckers
@Crazy-Chicken-Media
6 ай бұрын
most transparent gaming company in the history of gaming companies and everyone calls it a scam. meanwhile, Rockstar created GTA V in 2015 and his grossed over 23 billion.... largely in part to in-game purchases.
@TheSnipersRWatching
6 ай бұрын
Squadron 42 is *supposed* to be released this year. Probably near December. Their second star system Pyro is supposed to be out summer this year. However, their goal is to go into Star citizen 1.0 which is their more released version by next year. Once SQ42 is released they're moving all those workers into the PU (their online version)
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
Nowhere, has CIG ever claimed Star Citizen 1.0 next year. And SQ42 has not been given a release date yet either. This is false info that leads to false hype. The same thing the internet has flamed CIG for doing for years, and now the community has been pulling the same thing.
@r.daneel.90
6 ай бұрын
You're full of shit, CIG NEVER stated that.
@SirMadsen
6 ай бұрын
1. They have already moved majority of the workforce into Star Citizen. 2. Don't believe the mainstream new outlets or content creators with click bait thumbnails, aka. "SC 1.0 coming soon" etc. 3. No official release dates have been given of anything you mention.
@JohnyAngelo
6 ай бұрын
second
@jayoddity
6 ай бұрын
Heh :)
@theo.7408
6 ай бұрын
first
@jayoddity
6 ай бұрын
Nice
@realmaxpower
6 ай бұрын
Don't play yet.. it is still not ready and can be very frustrating while the bugs are present. It will (should) be amazing when polished and optimized.
@zeroxception
6 ай бұрын
poorly researched with a clickbait title
@jayoddity
6 ай бұрын
Erm what did I say wrong? Might be better
@jamesray741
6 ай бұрын
it's a scam.
@martinbaccetti8877
6 ай бұрын
Scam
@TheWasd1234
6 ай бұрын
See u when ur playing the game
@jamesray741
6 ай бұрын
i don't play pay to win games especially ones that are a scam. @@TheWasd1234
@fivefive6
6 ай бұрын
It's not a scam by any definition of the word. And you can't even back up the claim.
@jamesray741
6 ай бұрын
i dont need to back up any claim. I see a scam game. @@fivefive6
@jefflh9200
6 ай бұрын
The game is a scam open your eyes
@Luke-zj6ge
6 ай бұрын
While I respect this content creator’s decision to look at things from a different perspective. I have no faith in this terrible project. I see this channel having a brighter future than those developers.
@antoniodeb94
6 ай бұрын
Clickbait.
@kwoowoo828
6 ай бұрын
On all the indication, Star Citizen is gonna be an expensive game to play. Ships (as in GOOD ship) cost will not be cheap. Players will be staring at thousands of dollars if they want to go deep into the game play and be viable and competitive. Many already spent thousands or tens of thousands already before the game even launch. And because of the high cost, I don't see how it will escape the pay-2-win stigma. Simply, if you don't have money, you cannot compete with others who can shoot you with more powerful ships which they have forked out hundreds to thousands to buy. Any views on this P2W stigma that will be attached to this game? Or are there features they implemented that make this game not P2W?
@locke03
6 ай бұрын
That's just not true. Yes, they are selling ships to fund development, and there are issues to be taken with how this has been done, but as ships are added to the game in a playable state they are with very few exceptions available to earn in-game, with not unreasonable time investment into playing it, with no real money transactions aside from the initial game purchase.
@kwoowoo828
6 ай бұрын
@@locke03 Yea, the devil is in the details. Many of MMOs has way to earn in-game items aside from purchasing from cash shop. But so far, my experience with those MMOs are while it may appear 'reasonable' time investment to earn ONE in-game items, and there being so many items which you need to acquire, all these stacked up to 'unreasonable' time investment in totality. The only feasible way is to fork out hard cash at the cash shop otherwise you will be spending next 3 - 5 years grinding your shit out while your guild mates just got them instantly on the spot from the cash shop. These are the tactics (peer pressure, insane time investment requirement etc.) used by other MMOs to get you to pay (aka p2w). That is why I ask is Star Citizen doing anything different from other MMO in this respect? So far I don't see that they are doing things any differently.
@evanmartin1271
6 ай бұрын
Go try flying one of these huge ships by yourself into battle and come back and tell me how that went for you
@fivefive6
6 ай бұрын
This is not even remotely true. You can get into the game for $45, and never spend another dime of real money. Even the best ships in the game are obtainable in game.
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
You been reading fake news and bad intel. I spent thousands for ships. I got friends who only spent $45 and have those same ships. And they can whoop my butt in combat, in a small cheap one.
@haroldharalson1363
6 ай бұрын
I Tried it and I didn’t like it. It is a pay to play imo. With the amount of money they raised the product the have is not very good.
@fivefive6
6 ай бұрын
What's pay to play about it? Other than the cost to buy the game which pretty much every game has.
@SirMadsen
6 ай бұрын
They have literally developed a complete single player game as well along side of the MMO. Development of Star Citizen was never a priority, Squadron 42 was since it is simpler to develop for single player game and transfer that to the MMO than vice verca. And of course it's pay to play, you buy the game, aka starter package... After that you're free to do what ever you want. Or did you want it to be free to play and have no funding at all?
@dirty_beggar6277
6 ай бұрын
not holding my breath....
@Wolf350
6 ай бұрын
It's easy to mistake star citizen for a scam because of its unconventional funding model. If you are the impatient or rage quit type, then this is not the game/alpha for you with it's many bugs. But if you are a sci-fi nut, you need to at least try it on one of the many free fly events. This is so far the only game I know of that has no loading screens. If you can see it, you can land on it (except restricted areas in cities). Picture this... You wake up in a city, walk outside, look up and see a space station. That is NOT a skybox render. You can fly directly to it with NO loading screens. This alone is what makes SC a no brainer for me. Even if development stopped today, there's already enough content to make it worth the $45 starter pack... but don't expect it to stay that price on release.
@GeorgeNoX
6 ай бұрын
Its never been a scam, its just overly ambitious with the goal posts keep being moved ever forward. But even in alpha state, the game is actually pretty fun
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
And I keep seeing non stop feature requests from the community, that keeps complaining its taking to long.
@colin1235421
6 ай бұрын
It was never a scam. This type of garbage clickbait ruins KZitem.
@Pretorax
6 ай бұрын
The server meshing WoW analogy you made is pretty good, but what's mind blowing about the tech Cloud Imperium are creating that it's entirely dynamic scaling. So a server could be the size of a star system, or a planet, or a building/ship or even just a room, they will scale to the size they need to be to handle player activity, and you can traverse and even interact with things on another server seamlessly. They had a showcase where a player was shooting another player from a different physical server, if they can scale up the tech to work in games properly it's the holy grail of large scale MMO's.
@Billy-bc8pk
6 ай бұрын
This. CIG has said they won't be licensing the StarEngine, but seriously? They need to. As everyone has already said, there are countless communities such as the WH40K and Star Wars communities that were salivating over that server meshing demo at CitCon. Can you imagine seeing a mega-fleet arrive to glass a planet in real-time with no load screens? That's the stuff of legends. If CIG doesn't licence the StarEngine then it means we have to wait for other studious to research and develop their own solutions over the next decade.
@vorpalrobot
6 ай бұрын
@@Billy-bc8pk if you license an engine you need to: 1. Stop making dramatic changes to it 2. Train and support dev studios that buy it They can barely get their own internal studios to wield it effectively. One dev leaving can still set a piece of the project way behind.
@Billy-bc8pk
6 ай бұрын
@@vorpalrobotPartially true. Epic has been making drastic changes to their engine for the last decade. It's more about the support, though, and having a dedicated team providing proper documentation and on-site support for projects large enough to need to it. But it all depends on where CIG is a year from now and what the MMO landscape looks like, but given how most MMOs are these days, I doubt we'll see anything groundbreaking within the next two years from other studios.
@vorpalrobot
6 ай бұрын
@@Billy-bc8pk I just think star engine is still a bit too duct taped together to sell yet. I don't see them fixing it up for resale until after whatever star citizen 1.0 is so they can fork R&D off from whatever the "final" configuration is. After that, integrating major updates would involve DLC type stuff every few years because of the extensive QA needed on a live MMO.
@Billy-bc8pk
6 ай бұрын
@@vorpalrobotThat's very true.
@jasonm2477
6 ай бұрын
how do people still even entertain the 'its a scam' notion, its been playable for years sure its an alpha but progress has been ongoing and visible to anyone playing it for ages
@Anonnymouse53
6 ай бұрын
It's people rehashing old debates. Go back to 2015/16 and there was a legitimate concern that the tech they talked about was beyond their capability and the funding runway wouldn't stretch out for as long as it has. The fact that nobody has challenged them with a rival product is proof that they have pushed far beyond "diminishing returns" and the tech is indeed complicated and difficult, extraordinary crowdfunding is the only way this is possible and a lot of people just aren't comfortable with a project that has no end-date, but that's on them because the deal hasn't changed. It isn't a particularly consumer friendly deal, I backed many years ago and of course I'm frustrated that what they said would be 2-3 years will turn into 10-12. In the past they have definitely played fast & loose with their messaging. But that's in the past and now things are quite transparent and honest.
@jasonm2477
6 ай бұрын
@@Anonnymouse53it was fine then now its at best click bait and at worst defemation
@Anonnymouse53
6 ай бұрын
@@jasonm2477 I think it depends when people bought in. Big early backers are a minority but there is a reason they are/were vocal. If you threw a significant chunk of change at Chris Roberts based on what was said in 2013 you still have many reasons to be upset in 2024. If you were buying in the past few years it's really just a case of buyer beware, don't buy Early Access games if you don't want to play an Early Access game. It's so divisive because a lot of the opinions are subjective and one person can be very negative & another very positive and both be valid. Ultimately, it doesn't matter now, CIG are very close to proving it was worth the wait, there is no stopping this train anymore.
@guitar_allstar
4 ай бұрын
@@Anonnymouse53 I spent $100 on this clown fiesta 10 years ago. It's sad to see how many people haven't moved on from this.
@Anonnymouse53
4 ай бұрын
@@guitar_allstar buyer beware. This is the deal with earl access & kick starters, most of them don't work out. But CIG haven't failed yet.
@jstubbles
6 ай бұрын
I've been a backer since the original 2012 Kickstarter Campaign. They've had to build an insane amount of tech (as well as multiple sub-studios) along the way. Right now, it's completely playable, has been for a while. I'd say it's like a Steam early access game in it's current state, and they're working towards a 1.0 release. But the game will never be "done", IMO. Squadron 42 will be the more complete "done" experience.
@keshara283
6 ай бұрын
SC is in no way comparable to Steam Early Access titles, and please do not give people those impressions. SC is very much an "Alpha" phase development game, much of what we still currently see and interact with in game are either still PoC (proof of concept) or complete placeholder. The upcoming 3.23 release will not be bringing this game out of Alpha phase just yet, but it is an exciting patch for the backers never the less.
@blacksheepboyz
6 ай бұрын
@jstubbles 2014 for me.
@jstubbles
6 ай бұрын
@@keshara283 What do you think 7 days to Die is? You understand what Alpha stage is, right? And yes it CAN be alpha in Steam "Early Access". Alpha simply means that the core of the game is there, but it's missing a lot of the gameplay loops, and even some core systems. Beta = essentially done, but features are possibly incomplete or in a very rough state. Whole game needs polishing.
@SirMadsen
6 ай бұрын
I always say "it's a pretty elaborate scam with thousands of employees and several studios across the globe". It was never a scam, and 90% of their focus was on SQ42 which most people don't even know exist. Everyone knows Star Citizen, very few knows CQ42. So most people just a see a slow moving progression on Star Citizen when in reality they have built, coded, created, developed etc. the biggest Sci-Fi game ever at the same time. Also a note on "is it over ambitious". No, if it was CIG wouldn't have spent millions and millions of $$$ to literally invent new technology to make everything work. The game (Star Citizen) is coming and progress have already begun to speed up since majority of studios and their employees have been moved from SQ42 to Star Citizen. Good video, hope to see you in verse one day. O7
@impulserr
6 ай бұрын
Star citizen is fun, but almost all features bugged and server crash all the time and optimization is terrible. I must say it is rly fun anyway, if they fix bugs, servers and add more content then it will be top tier.
@bakad7424
6 ай бұрын
Bought a nomad in 2020 with LTI, jackal paint, and some ship hanger feature (never implemented). I’m just now getting back into it and I’m loving every second of it. 2 weeks in and I love the different game loops. I never get bored and always think of some goal in mind.
@blacksheepboyz
6 ай бұрын
We have been playing for years, it's fun to watch the changes. This year is very fact in development. Your opinions are off sometimes. They have seriously building this from scratch. There has been something to do for years. You really need to play with some seasoned player before you make some of the opinions that you have. Get a very basic ship and I would be happy to drag you through. Thanks!
@j.d.4697
6 ай бұрын
For anyone on the fence of playing the game, wait for 3.23 to drop and maybe get stable enough to play. If it's as awesome and packed with stuff as was planned it means the development speed has actually ramped up as planned and as required for it to get somewhere.
@soulsii5322
6 ай бұрын
Give the game a shot mate :) worst case it’s $40, best case we will have a free fly coming around April/may for invictus launch week and you can try the combat ships for free
@Anonnymouse53
6 ай бұрын
Good take. Every year(ish) Star Citizens get a letter from Chris Roberts saying what has been achieved & Every year(ish) people read too much into it. There is a good faith effort to deliver a great experience first & eventually complete it second. But as time passes they do achieve goals and move toward that actual delivery. People that say it will never happen are haters & people who say it's going to happen soon are evangelists. But there is no scam and there will be a product, we are well past the point where that is in question (though in the past there was a legitimate concern that it was vaporware).
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
Well stated!
@fishheadbreakroom
6 ай бұрын
i keep having fun playing it
@Farlayy
6 ай бұрын
You look like a British Seth MacFarlane
@jayoddity
6 ай бұрын
I am much less funny
@dougalemacalestyr8365
6 ай бұрын
Welcome to the Verse Jay. Backer since 2013, gosh, that's hard to read.
@jayoddity
6 ай бұрын
crazy!
@FreshJ1v3
6 ай бұрын
It seems like NW when it was in beta but SC has more potential.
@kroduk2400
6 ай бұрын
Solid analysis, loved how you read between the line and don't eat all the PR as a fanboy!
@jayoddity
6 ай бұрын
Thanks :)
@Billy-bc8pk
6 ай бұрын
Excellent video -- glad you were honest about what you didn't know about. I would venture to try to explain server meshing and PES, but you're right, it's complicated, and the tech is dense. I'll just say that if it works to scale in the live-environemnt (all the Evocati tests have been extremely successful and Benoit, the lead CTO, says they will be ramping up for testing DSM soon) then every other MMO will be looking to licence this tech. Also, I will say this, look to try out Star Citizen when patch 3.23 goes live either in April or May. It's not too long away, and it's already in Evocati testing. It's more of an optimisation and quality of life patch that brings a lot of cool features to the table. It's also an extremely big and overwhelming game, so if I were you I would start watching some basic tutorial videos t oget an udnerstanding of how things work because even with the in-game tutorial it's still overwhelming. Everything in the game is physicalised and it runs on the notion of "how would you do this in real life?". So you have to follow signs, and use elevators, and take trams to get around the different cities. Very large, very complex. I still get lost in Lorville. So yeah...
@fatjay9402
6 ай бұрын
600m+ wtf and still not done.. looks like tech Demo
@fivefive6
6 ай бұрын
Except it's an actual playable game. 600 mil over 10 years is not that much,btw. That's well under what a normal AAA game studio spends.
@Drascylla
6 ай бұрын
Honestly nothing I've played of the "game" and I use that word loosely, feels like a game. Its a glorified tech demo and an expensive one at that. The only thing that is realistically in sight of ever releasing is Squadron 42 and I couldn't give two craps about it. Wasn't even the original pitch either, I bought into it for the promise of an MMO, not some single player side project. If I sound angry and disappointed its because I am.
@fivefive6
6 ай бұрын
Give you $20 if you log in tonight. In game name? Highly doubt you even have it.
@festersmith8352
6 ай бұрын
I bought into it in 2013, and what was promised was SQ42. Something that was to be similar to Starfield. So its not a side project. Never was. It was the original project. But I got way more than I paid for, without being required to spend any more. If you bought in not knowing that, then you didn't do the research.
@Drascylla
6 ай бұрын
@@festersmith8352 From my perspective it was an MMO they originally pitched, yes they said a spiritual successor to wing commander but that didn't necessarily translate to mean single player game. And the money I spent isn't the issue, its about the principle of what was advertised. If it was indeed as you say, then they haven't done themselves any favors by developing two skews of the game, its just creates a whole lot of unnecessary confusion on what it is the customer is buying/founding into. And I''ll point out that doing research is all fine and well, but if the messaging poor then its hardly the fault of the consumer.
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