I wholely agree with what you are saying and how you are going about your argument. I think the ships should be compared in their repsective categories, such as physical size and the roles the fulfill. Have mulitple Ship Showdowns running simultaneously in these categories, resulting in new paints for a handful of winners, catering for a wider array of interests across the playerbase.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@Nemoticon, thanks for watching, agree with you.
@-NateTheGreat
Жыл бұрын
Wallets closed boys and girls.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@swdrgn, Good point, vote with your wallet!
@zikurick6365
Жыл бұрын
My perspective is that unless every ship in the whole line up is from the same class of ships, once you are past the first round then all the remaining ships will be matched up against other ships of other classes. There's no point trying to adhere to a class based selection when that wasn't the point to start with.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@zikurick6365, It's not about class but the matchup itself, putting a solo starter ship up against a multi-crew top-tier ship is not a real matchup.
@zikurick6365
Жыл бұрын
@@TieJax I would agree with you if we were talking about PVP but this is about peoples loyalty to the ship. How loved it is and how good it is at what it does. Not specifically about how many ships it can destroy before going down itself, so that's why you have things like Cutlass black VS an Andromeda or a Carrack vs Terrapin. Those are no where near the same class, rank or effectiveness. The ship that won peoples hearts, not the most battles or most cargo or most expensive.
@JohnSmith-bh8um
Жыл бұрын
The odd matchups are due to not enough ship variants in each "field". My biggest quirk is the ship prices dont reflect ship performance.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@JohnSmith-bh8um, I agree with you on that 100%.
@kingknossosthebull9796
Жыл бұрын
The Cutter vs the 890 jump???? Yeah, that's fair. LOL, you're spot on on this.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
Yep kind of like comparing a Bass fishing boat to a Super Yacht!
@marcmiddleton2277
Жыл бұрын
If everyone would pick the one they don't like, it would throw CIG off and have to scramble to make a Skin 😂😂
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@marcmiddleton2277, another year of memes! I like it!
@ksl-988
Жыл бұрын
I'll give you that the matchings can be weird, but CIG doesn't choose what ships go onto the poll, the community chooses the ships in round 1 through art projects and social media. CIG selects the ships based on how much attention they get from the round 1 submissions.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@LunaS-dl6vn, thanks for watching and is not the ships that are picked in round 1 that are the problem for me, it is which ship is matched up with that is the issue. Putting a started ship vs. a multi-crew endgame ship is not the best way to do round 2 as CIG is forcing a clear winner.
@wickedgaming9632
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if CiG hits a random generator button for the showdown but you could be right. The goodies pack you hit the money on though. I like buying quite a few of them. 10$ is manageable. I saw 35$ and was like......no....
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@wickedgaming9632, yep I don't think CIG is going to sell much of them.
@elitegenesis1583
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the match ups have always been really odd. I don't really have a dog in the fight, so I don't care much. However, just based on tracking vote numbers the Terri has a good shot of winning its next round as well. If both ships receive the same number of votes as last round it will win again. and the Corsair should win again as well.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@elitegenesis1583, I agree with you on that 100%.
@IIITangentIII
Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the second comment but I will also say that it's not just the matchups that dictate the winners. Putting the cutter in against any of the ships would not have changed the outcome. The cutter is going to win because it is popular, it is a starter ship, and it is meme-worthy. I don't have one and I don't want one. I nominated the Herald because it's a fun ship and it's something different. I didn't knowing that there was no way it was going to end up in the top 16. That's why this sucks because if they keep doing what they are doing it will always be a few of the same ships every year and a few flavor of the month. It's not interesting or entertaining. It's just an opportunity for people to get a paint job for their favorite ships as long as their favorite ships are popular.
@btr003
Жыл бұрын
I think the Argo Cargo winning the meme war put a stop to this. I'm pretty sure this time around, people will roll their eyes and stop themselves from voting the Cutter as the winner. Before, it was something new and chaotic and fun. Now, it's a boring meme.
@IIITangentIII
Жыл бұрын
@@btr003 I would love to give people enough credit to say they are not going to do it, but from what I hear around the community it sounds pretty likely the cutter is going to win. I would love to be wrong about that.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@IIITangentIII, Yep it is a popularity contest and the Cutter is going to win. I don't have a problem with that as it is a good and popular ship. But it is CIG that is skewing the results based on the matchups. You can keep the same ships but put them up against other ships that are in the same class.
@IIITangentIII
Жыл бұрын
@@TieJax The result will still be the same. The cutter will still win. I don't have a problem with it, but that isn't really the point. The system is flawed, but regardless of what they do to change it it will always be the most popular ship at that time winning. Not the best, most fun, best in a role, or any other number of things that could make the experience more enjoyable for the community.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@@IIITangentIII Well we can agree it needs to be changed in some way, otherwise the ship showdown stays a great big meme!
@rivit7615
Жыл бұрын
Arrow vs Fury isn't super far apart. Sorta simillar performance and size. Well as close of a matchup as the Furry will get in the ships presented. Much closer than Arrow vs Redeemer.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@rivit7615, thanks for watching, and I think the Redeemer should beat the Arrow, but people are strange sometimes and you never know.
@maddy7156
Жыл бұрын
I collected all the trophies for 10 years, so I got the pack, but had my eyes closed and forced myself to press the buy button. I was even considering to just melt all the trophies for a second. One thing is for sure I will only give them a pass this once. If the next trophy is in another expensive pack I will melt them all and get a fun ship instead.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@maddy7156, Well that is one way to look at it, future savings for a new ship when you melt all of them! 😉
@Whoadayson
Жыл бұрын
You are definately right! Ever since the Marketing Dept took over, My wallets gotten more and more stingy. Now its closed for good after hearing what the ex-dev said about the Manchester studio's art. I mean, for all we know, 75mil/year wont be enough !any longet, for these 'top tier execs' to deem CIG sustainable, so they shut it down, we lose the dream but we lose the ONLY VIRTUAL ENVIRONMENT where our ship and gear purchases mean a damn thing... No Im not actually thinking CIG is shutting down but when art and appearance start mattering more that saving ppls jobs, fighting against layoff woes, and following thru for the ppl that made the 'fight against triple A studios' but instead become them, change original backer promises and contracts, then really Who Knows!!!
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@Whoadayson, I take that post from the ex-dev with a little salt but it does seem like CIG is doing nothing but a money grab.
@Whoadayson
Жыл бұрын
@@TieJax Yeah, the salt wasnt lost on me, but I can also believe that aspect of the rant. Sadly, its human nature (not all of us but a good amount) for ppl to care about outward appearance more as a measure of their success and it always seems to grow exponentially along with their own growth. Wall Street is a prime example. Everyone trying to outdo the other. Idk, Im sure Im overlooking something, but it does seem like CIG is trying harder to be noticed (ie:compete) with AAA studios, maybe not in volume, but in appearance, instead of sticking to making the game that got them started again! Im aware that right now, Im hyper focusing on the studio appearance thing, which overall is a tiny factor, but still a factor non the less.. Im not sure if CR has lost control of CIGs course, OR if he has just changed into a money grubber, or if he views the money grab as necessary for the path to finishing his legacy game? I always thought this game was the most important thing to him, more for his own legacy, but also caring about his games? Anyway, I appreciate the reply. I always like your content. Thx Tie!
@talentedpigeon3296
Жыл бұрын
$35 is nuts. We know how much money CIG raised, but i wonder if theres a way to see how much has been spent on development and what they have left over...is this an act of desperation, or a greedy cashgrab?
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@talentedpigeon3296, thanks for watching, I think this is an example of the Marketing Team being very out of touch with the player base. Also a greedy cash grab!
@bftwdsj
Жыл бұрын
Shotgun is great for drug bunkers takes out multiple boxes in one shot! However 100% a secondary gun if I didn't bring a launcher
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@bftwdsj, Ok that makes sense but is a very niche weapon when using it to do so.
@bftwdsj
Жыл бұрын
@@TieJax also the goodies aren't meltable btw
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@@bftwdsj That Sucks!!!
@sharxbyte
Жыл бұрын
a double elimination would make this so much better
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@sharxbyte, I like that idea!
@travisj2370
Жыл бұрын
my thorts would be the 400i would beat the cutter because its just better in every way but it may not beat the corsair but who knows the goodies pack is pretty good value because most ship paints are around half the price of the pack and so are armors then you got a bunch of neat little things to decorate your ships with that may be able to go onto the flair slots of your ship and then on top of that you get a multi tool and rack for it so its definetly worth the cost i also think the redeemer will beat the arrow because its far more lethal even when soloing it and its got food and drinks when you spawn it and its able to kill the biggest of ships with ease once fully crewed and you can daily drive it around unlike the arrow wich has poor QT range
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@travisj2370, thanks for watching, and I agree with you on the Redeemer and Corsair. I have to disagree with you on the Goodies Pack at $35 based on what items like this have cost in the past $10 or free if given as subscriber flare. Also, the paints for ships are overpriced as well when compared to other games that are released and not in Alpha testing.
@Bland-79
Жыл бұрын
The Carrack is no doubt the better ship than the Terrapin and knocking it out because of spite was stupid. I think this has to do with the mentality of the younger generation who hate winners and are used to getting consolation prizes for their whole childhood when the lost. It's stupid. What a bunch of wimps.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@Bland-79, I agree with you on that 100%.
@Bland-79
Жыл бұрын
I really did not expect you to agree with me. I speak my mind and get rude and uninformed remarks usually in return.@@TieJax
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@@Bland-79 Nothing wrong with speaking your mind on this channel, I encourage it! I may or may not agree with it but will listen to your point of view, something that people are forgetting to do in today's world.
@marcmiddleton2277
Жыл бұрын
The suits Idea I like, the execution & effort is not there. Some one tripped on the suits.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@marcmiddleton2277, For $35 it should be more than a gimp suit! 🤑
@knightrider20092000
Жыл бұрын
I think the 890 jump may end up losing of being popular once Hull C, Polaris, and the Galaxy come in to the game. Which force the 890 jump to be in the upgrade spot.
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@knightrider20092000, I'm sure the Hull C will be up for next year and should win.
@jamesg6323
Жыл бұрын
I would have bought one for 10 dollars but 35... nar, not got a dragonfly, don't care for the plushies, trophies or the gimp suit so not paying 35 for a shotgun and a pyro tool
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@jamesg6323, thanks for watching, and agreed, $35 for a gimp suit is not going to happen.
@IIITangentIII
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the top 16 comes down to the most popular ships and the fury needed to go against something so it actually makes sense and went against the arrow from that standpoint. That being said it's stupid for anyone to have nominated the fury because how noticeable is a new paint job really going to be on it? Scorpius versus Redeemer was the same match from last year but the winner was different so that's actually good. There should be categories no doubt, but it should be handled completely different as it is. There shouldn't be able to be the same winner's over and over. If a ship won last year it shouldn't be able to be nominated this year. Also they said they were going to change things but haven't. Clearly they haven't put any time or thought into this, or at the very least were unable to come up with a solution. Good video!
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@IIITangentIII, thanks for watching, I agree that categories are a good idea and would like to add that any prior winner is exempt from competing in the next showdown.
@RecklessFables
Жыл бұрын
No Money Til Pyro
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@RecklessFables, thanks for watching.
@veng1246
Жыл бұрын
100 percent lol
@TieJax
Жыл бұрын
@veng1246, thanks for watching, and glad you liked the video.
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