About Q... They also never really explored Guinan's reaction to seeing Q. Like she wanted to kill him, and was confident enough to do it.
@1978rharris
2 жыл бұрын
That’s coming, possibly in Picard season 2
@thezone6960
2 жыл бұрын
Because Q is limited to our universe where as Guinan us the same in all universes throughout the multiverse. She's beyond his reach therefore she's more powerful than the Q.
@Budymierdas
2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't Guinan, that was just Whoopi Goldber's reaction to seeing John de Lancie
@jaredjones1752
2 жыл бұрын
Especially when Q says "this creature is not what she appears to be. She is an imp, and where she goes trouble always follows" Many fans assumed Q was just insulting Guinan, but there's a recent fan theory that what Q meant was Guinan is NOT actually an El-Aurian, but a much more malevolent entity merely posing as one. Sadly, they never explored the possibility.
@REALDEALFLEXSEAL
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredjones1752 maybe because that's not what it means
@jayb8934
2 жыл бұрын
Their indifference towards Q makes sense. They know that the Continuum is not going to tell them anything or do anything significant for them. As carefree and nonchalant as Q acts, it’s pretty clear that the Q are as strict about not interfering with less advanced races as starfleet is. Janeway knew that Q wouldn’t even send Voyager home even though it would be nothing for him. She asks once because she had to at least try, but she’s not surprised when he refuses and she doesn’t try to force the point.
@Janoha17
2 жыл бұрын
And as Death Wish showed, even the Q don't really know what happens after death (though Q does pretend to be a psychopomp for Picard in Tapestry)
@rainthemadocracy384
2 жыл бұрын
@@Janoha17 The Q don't know what happens after THEIR death. Everyone else, they have clear knowledge and access to, as demonstrated in Tapestry. As for the indifference, it doesn't make sense. Quinn was a reasonable Q and yet no one picked his brain for anything, even though he and Q were dropping knowledge bombs during the trial.
@joeboxter3635
2 жыл бұрын
@Jay B No. Everything Q does is an illusion. That is Starfleet theory. Not everyone believes it.
@jayb8934
2 жыл бұрын
@@joeboxter3635 No where in Star Trek canon does it say that Starfleet doesn't believe that Q's power is real. They've seen more than enough evidence that it's real. They know very well that by human standards the Q are omnipotent. But they also know that it's pointless trying to learn anything from them.
@Keri-Kerigan
2 жыл бұрын
@@jayb8934 exactly, it's like asking a cat to do something. Maybe it will listen, but will likely either ignore you or knock something breakable onto the floor.... or the next galaxy over. You simply can't trust the Q. It's simply best just to not attract their attention and hope they just go away.
@347Jimmy
2 жыл бұрын
Ellie: But, here he is, displaying *powers beyond belief* Q: absolutely wailing with his Mariachi band
@creyes4182
2 жыл бұрын
I remember being a kid and having my mind blown with the common ancestor episode. And when they completely ignored it in the next one I was confused. I think I waited for months to see if it ever came back up, never did lol
@Tasarran
2 жыл бұрын
I posted above that I was unsurprised... No matter if you're a believer in science and evolution, or a believer in creationism, most people believe all humans are related in some way, either through Adam and Ave or a common ancestor. Hasn't made much difference about how much we other people and hate the others as a species...
@DanBrown96
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I loved that episode!
@MEHoward
2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@jsworpin
2 жыл бұрын
They hopefully ignored it because it’s utterly ridiculous and shows a complete lack of understanding of evolution.
@hrs2044
2 жыл бұрын
@@jsworpin Why is it ridiculous? Each species evolved specifically for their own planet's environment. Seems plausible and in line with our understanding of evolution.
@stevenjlovelace
2 жыл бұрын
Sisko's not impressed by Q because Sisko is also a god.
@lovehawks2814
2 жыл бұрын
He didn't know he was Bajoran Jesus at the time though.
@1978rharris
2 жыл бұрын
@@lovehawks2814 Q knew though
@ibrohiem
2 жыл бұрын
Q probably know the Prophets backed him and didn't want to fuck with him.
@KingfisherTalkingPictures
2 жыл бұрын
Best answer!
@thezone6960
2 жыл бұрын
That's why Q never came back. When Sisko punched him Q realized he'd been knocked on his ass by another God.
@dragnl0rd
2 жыл бұрын
As far as #2, I wonder how many people looking back at that episode realize that not only is the actress the same as the lead founder changeling in DS9, but that the form is similar to the changeling "default". Add to that the fact that the first encounter on the changeling homeworld has her explain that their species was solid and limited, once upon a time... coincidence?
@mingruitak2751
2 жыл бұрын
great point!
@tedwojtasik8781
2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. When they were originally solid her ancestors were cool cats baby, reaaaaal smooth. The, when they evolved into goo they because total douchebags because that's what happens when you become goo-thing, you become an asshole.
@eriol_mits3121
2 жыл бұрын
I've always gone with the head cannon that the ancient humanoid and the Founders were distant relative for the same race, explaining the resemblance and the same actor..
@hackman669
2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they are two species from the same planet. Solids influenced the liquid then things changed.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
2 жыл бұрын
Surely when they brought her (Salome Jens) back to play the lead Founder the idea must have occurred to them. Maybe they were even going to tie them together somehow but the idea got shot down for one reason or another. I would love to ask this question at a Star Trek convention!
@JohnS-il1dr
2 жыл бұрын
They ignored that accident that created two Commander Rikers. Starfleet could have reversed engineered tech to duplicate humans perfectly
@1FatLittleMonkey
2 жыл бұрын
Backup any crew member periodically, so you can be restored to your last "save" if you die. (Those who consent, obviously.) Hell, any citizen who wishes.
@malkavianstr450
2 жыл бұрын
Duplicate ships and crews, turn a few star system's mass into a fleet.
@marcelsgroot
2 жыл бұрын
@@1FatLittleMonkey it would not be like that unless somehow you can put your own consioness in it. Otherwise it be more like you die but your identical twin lives on
@jessicantina
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcelsgroot I mean for all we know that's what every transporter trip is
@marcelsgroot
2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicantina possible yes
@seraphimvalkyrin4543
2 жыл бұрын
10:58 People really need to stop confusing the universe with a galaxy, they are not the same thing. They only seeded our galaxy, that's a big difference compared to an entire universe.
@phaiz55
2 жыл бұрын
The Star Trek universe absolutely cares about Q even if some individuals do not. I would have replaced that spot with the Dyson Sphere they discovered then never brought up again.
@tedwojtasik8781
2 жыл бұрын
No doubt, how ITF could they forget the Dyson Sphere? That is utter madness.
@brandonlink6568
2 жыл бұрын
Well they did care about #6, they mention the warp speed limit a couple times after the episode and later warp engines, including the Intrepid's fancy variable-geometry pylons, were designed to be gentiler on subspace.
@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega
6 ай бұрын
this maybe late but thats also the reason why the newer sovereign class (enterprise E) has a narrower profile, and everytime after that episode on TBG they mention they have permission, i doubt every episode is just the next day, its just that we only see episodes of adventures where something happens so it looks like they go passed 5 every episode, but in between the episodes with everyday life they dont go passed warp 5
@288theabe
2 жыл бұрын
I thought starfleet made a fix on the warp drive thing with the re-designed nacelles?
@allthingsnerd.4484
2 жыл бұрын
Correct. The writers HATED the warp speed limit, so they pretty much ignored it and then “solved the problem” with things like Voyager’s variable position nacelles.
@davvader
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is solved.
@matthiasquickblade
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was going to say. Starfleet just develop better ships and nacelles. Like us converting to electric cars or w/e
@cb-gz1vl
2 жыл бұрын
The warp speed limit was only for that narrow corridor. It was in a nebula. It wasn't for general space. They even explain in the episode it was like people walking on the same carpet in a narrow hallway and wearing it out.
@JohnnyWednesday
2 жыл бұрын
@@cb-gz1vl - It was all space - that narrow corridor was just the worst affected part at the time.
@TheNightmareMan
2 жыл бұрын
Voyager gets a pass on the warp thing because that's why they have nacelles that move to keep from damaging anything.
@OldJerzyDevil
2 жыл бұрын
Good point! I know I've seen it before, but like that idea.
@DoctorX17
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the variable nacelle geometry is supposed to lessen the damage and make warp travel more efficient, but we never see it on any other ship...
@generalilbis
2 жыл бұрын
@@DoctorX17 I've always gone with the headcanon that the Intrepid-class was the test bed for variable geometry nacelles and Voyager's disappearance meant that Starfleet suspended testing indefinitely while the tech was gone over with a fine tooth comb in case it was the cause for Voyager disappearing. By the time Voyager's crew used the Hirogen communications network to call home, refinements to fixed position nacelles had come along to make VG nacelles pointless due to increased maintenance needs.
@tedwojtasik8781
2 жыл бұрын
The variable geometry nacelles are stupid, really, what's the point? Why not just duct tape them or whatever in the angled position and leave them there. It's just stupid but people dig it because, weeeeeeee, lookie here, the nacelles move...weeeeeeeeee.
@Swiftbow
2 жыл бұрын
That's just such a stupidly easy fix to something that was presented as a massive problem.
@sarahscott5305
2 жыл бұрын
Technically, the first life on earth to make contact with an alien was when Q fiddled around with the primordial protein goo in All Good Things 😁
@Peaceforall20111
2 жыл бұрын
But remember that was not what happened that was an alternate version so that technically never happened so that’s not the first time because that never happened
@JohnnyWednesday
2 жыл бұрын
@@Peaceforall20111 - You sure do love the word "happened"
@dboymax1
2 жыл бұрын
Who is to say Q was not there in the actual "Prime Timeline". Remember he is omnipotent so something like is easily possible for him.
@wearwolf2500
2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyWednesday What happens in an alternate timeline, stays in an alternate timeline
@Peaceforall20111
2 жыл бұрын
@@dboymax1 Now we’re just gonna make suppositions about things that never happened I mean what the heck that never happened so you’re gonna say that could’ve happened while that’s not what happened in the show I could say 1 million things happened
@kevinslater4126
2 жыл бұрын
Warp drive damaging space is literally why the Voyager was built. They didn't forget about it.
@tedwojtasik8781
2 жыл бұрын
Fuck space, what did space ever do for anyone.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
2 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting and makes sense, but where is this mentioned? I'd like to find out more about this.
@stargazer7644
2 жыл бұрын
@@JustWasted3HoursHere its the whole reason for the redesigned nacelles.
@VaporeonEnjoyer1
2 жыл бұрын
And also why even bring up Spore Drive as an alternative? The reason it never gets brought up again is because the idea was from the Kurtzmann writing team writing a prequel series 15 years later. There is no reason to try to work a theory to explain why it's never brought up in universe, because the real world reason is the only explanation you need.
@Psepha
2 жыл бұрын
@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 Then the question potentially gets flipped - if you're going to retcon something into existence so hard to the point that it makes no sense that it wasn't brought up in the future, why didn't they think about giving a reason for it not being available in the future?
@dernvader6876
2 жыл бұрын
Geordi asks some guy “have you seen the dolphins?” in the episode “The perfect mate”
@StarFleet_Tech1701
2 жыл бұрын
@Dern Vadar, the 'some guy' was the Kriosian Ambassador in the episode "The Perfect Mate".
@FVanth
2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought it odd that the original humanoid looked a lot like Odo and the Founders, in particular the female changeling. I've often wondered if there was something deeper there, and hoped the writers would explore that more.
@wmorrison02
2 жыл бұрын
I thought that also.
@Thurgosh_OG
2 жыл бұрын
They also look a lot like the original Martians from the Martian Chronicles TV series.
@The8BitGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Not only does she look similar, it's the same actress as the female changling in DS9.
@marktowlermt
2 жыл бұрын
In my head cannon, the Founders and the Seeders are one and the same. They seeded life, evolved and became shapeshifters
@DavidLS1
2 жыл бұрын
Since the Dominion changelings on Earth perfectly mimicked humans, why did the female changeling make herself look like Odo?
@curtisbme
2 жыл бұрын
@11:47 It can easily be explained why the crew doesn't ask Q any bigger questions: You can't trust anything he says to be the truth.
@MyRegardsToTheDodo
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I always thought that Janeway kept up with his antics because deep down she still hoped that Q would bring her and the Voyager home one day. Sisko knocked him on his ass and Q never bothered messing with him again. And Picard simply didn't have it in him to get any control over Q.
@dvcreservations
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s just going to lie to you.
@FirstDan2000
2 жыл бұрын
This list was surprisingly good. I did get annoyed when Voyager didn't use the slipstream drive after discovering that red-lining it would make it blow up. They could have used it in short trips. Or could have used the Delta Flyer as a taxi service - didn't it also have the slipstream drive installed? The pro-genitor looks so much like the dominion founder that it was probably her, and it was a massive hoax. She tried to trick them all into...... hmmm, no, i haven't thought this through.
@travcollier
2 жыл бұрын
@Brendan Kent IIRC, the Founders discovered the wormhole quite a while back. Odo wasn't the first explorer sent out .
@DocWolph
2 жыл бұрын
The Founders were retconned as the Progenitors before they became "liquid lifeforms", metaphors/shapeshifters.
@someguy4331
2 жыл бұрын
@FirstDan2000 no, voyager was the only ship that had the drive. the flyer was just inside the field being generated.
@benwillems8584
2 жыл бұрын
They didn't know the Delta flyer could succesfully get there.
@DM-wj8br
2 жыл бұрын
@Brendan Kent The actress for both the progenitor woman and the female changeling was Salome Jens
@Zoomer30_
2 жыл бұрын
Really hard to watch the "dna computer" episode without thinking that the result looks excatly like The Founder leader.
@lasarith2
2 жыл бұрын
Same actress.
@orlock20
2 жыл бұрын
@@lasarith2 In the same makeup. Maybe that's why they are called Founders.
@JohnnyWednesday
2 жыл бұрын
@@orlock20 - Do we know if the founders being Odo's race was planned from the start? or were they a creation later on in the writing process that just happened to fit in nicely with Odo - or were otherwise inspired by him? IE did they plan a big bad enemy and only later did they make them the same race as Odo?
@orlock20
2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyWednesday Planning on Star Trek? There are several videos that point out that Star Trek franchise does not plan.
@Adam_Outdoors
2 жыл бұрын
@@orlock20 No 's completely different makeup.
@scotthudson008
2 жыл бұрын
Remember in season 1 when Starfleet was infiltrated by body snatching bugs? Yeah, they forgot pretty quickly as well.
@talonrap8130
2 жыл бұрын
Ugh I will never and cannot forget. Gross!
@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
2 жыл бұрын
I just was thinking about that one.
@nottingham2222
2 жыл бұрын
Star Trek throws away advance tech all the time. In TOS Nomad enhances the warp engines and Kirk tells him to reverse the changes when he should have just told Nomad to slow the ship down but keep the changes. There are many more examples form TOS alone. Never mind next gen or DS9.
@JoeBorrello
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that’s a big one. Since Nomad states that in his accident “there was much damage”, and he thinks Kirk is The Creator, Kirk should have told him he wanted to check him over to be sure everything is ok, then convince him to shut down so Scotty could disassemble him and reverse engineer all the goodies.
@kurtreber9813
2 жыл бұрын
Any unproven tech should be thoroughly tested before use though.
@georgelionon9050
2 жыл бұрын
I remember in the old days even in TOS; in one episode they encounter some group that can make humans act super-mega fast by throwing something into the tea.. and just because they lied to them that her aging weapon was a sideeffect if getting hurt during super-speed they never ever ever took on that again.
@wanderinghistorian
2 жыл бұрын
#6 - they actually do mention the warp speed limit in ONE additional episode - Picard mentions invoking an emergency so they can go to high warp. But that is it. Never mentioned again.
@RegebroRepairs
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. In "Into Darkness" it turns out Khans blood literally can bring Kirk back from the dead. And no one bats an eye.
@XentorAntarix
2 жыл бұрын
Yea and this film was soooooo mutch Star Trek...... "Hey we have Pockettransporters that can beam us to Chronos".... Yes that was real Star Trek.... NOPE.
@nikon3822
2 жыл бұрын
12:27 Presenter Sean Ferrick? Way to go Sean, I'm very impressed by your Cross-Dressing skills, didn't notice it was you at all. All humor aside, good presentation Ellie, thank you.
@ianlister7333
2 жыл бұрын
if I had to guess Sean, doesnt need much encouragement to give it a go.
@Hawkeye26
2 жыл бұрын
12:30 "Presenter: Sean Ferrick" MY GAWD has Sean undergone a rapid change!
@chriswalton6899
2 жыл бұрын
a warm welcome to the TrekCulture family, Ellie :)
@luphawk
2 жыл бұрын
the restrictions on warp speed were only meant for that particular area and the data about warp drive damaging subspace did influence ship designs moving forward. that's why later federation ships were sleeker, more "streamlined", it was more efficient and cut down on the damage they did to subspace.
@moriaty123
2 жыл бұрын
Starfleet meets a near-omnipotent being that puts them on trial, and systematically negs him until he's chasing after them for attention.
@lesterbarnswallow6526
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite is the uninhabited Dyson Sphere in Next Generation that they just leave behind.
@juzoli
2 жыл бұрын
Star Trek is like each episode is its own parallel universe in the multiverse. What happens in one episode has no effect in any other episode…
@jaybea365
2 жыл бұрын
Unless you kill Tasha
@alanjenkins1508
2 жыл бұрын
Time travel makes all history temporary anyway.
@jamesgordley5000
2 жыл бұрын
Transporting to and from an entire alternate evil universe, never seemed to get much attention from Starfleet command either.
@dvcreservations
2 жыл бұрын
Spoiler warning :::::::: :::: perhaps starfleet heads know secretly that the universes are drifting apart anyway and the issue will resolve itself.
@garysmith2450
2 жыл бұрын
There’s no way in a million years I would have made myself an adult again in that episode ‘Rascals’.
@dvcreservations
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That’s insane. There’s literally no downside.
@pseudotasuki
2 жыл бұрын
I think it made sense for Keiko and (to a lesser degree) Picard. Considering how long El-Aurians live, Guinan might not have wanted to extend her life.
@NaturallyMe2011
2 жыл бұрын
Voyager's redesigned nacelles were supposed to fix the problem. With damaging space
@wolftitan
2 жыл бұрын
Actually pretending the episode never happened fixed the problem. 🤣
@JohnS-il1dr
2 жыл бұрын
@@wolftitan That episode was heavy handed about climate change. In my head cannon subspace self healed, or maybe Q just reset it because he was bored one day.
@willshields383
2 жыл бұрын
They also just forgot that they can travel across the galaxy virtually instantly after Reg Barclay got zapped by the Cytherian probe. Guess no-one saved Reg's holodeck program...
@crabobserver
2 жыл бұрын
They don't understand how to operate it
@chunkychuck
2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the aliens they met.
@cb-gz1vl
2 жыл бұрын
@@crabobserver Yes but it was all done with the Enterprise resources and the ship would have logged how it was done.
@t3h51d3w1nd3r
2 жыл бұрын
@@cb-gz1vl motorbikes and small prop planes have the same internal combustion engine layout but just cause you know how to ride a motorbike, controlling the throttle, clutch and gears and can start a prop engine, doesn't mean you understand slats, cord, rudder, flaps, what to do at stall angles, prop overspeed, egt temp, radio, etc. Hell, people are able to drive cars but ask them to change a fuse or jump start it with an external battery and you're asking for trouble XD.
@topogigio7031
2 жыл бұрын
You sound like a Zoomer that just watched their first episode and it was with Barcley
@Axemantitan
2 жыл бұрын
Cetacean Ops and the dolphins within were mentioned by Geordi to a Ferengi in the TNG episode "The Perfect Mate." (The one with Famke Janssen.) They weren't shown, but that was the first canon reference to Cetacean Ops.
@jonmyers8046
2 жыл бұрын
Actually there was a book published after ST IV titled "Probe". It's all about the alien probe that contacted the whales.
@gspendlove
2 жыл бұрын
I read that. IIRC, pretty good book about teaching the Probe to communicate with other species _without_ wiping them out. I enjoyed it.
@sid2112
2 жыл бұрын
@@gspendlove I can see that conversation..... "Sooooooo hi. Yeah that com array you use is SUPER destructive. Use this subspace radio instead. We also brought the whales back, uh, sorry."
@StarFleet_Tech1701
2 жыл бұрын
I bought the audiobook.
@charlesjohnson7458
2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
@jonmyers8046
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesjohnson7458 You're welcome
@tomrobertsfinn
2 жыл бұрын
EDITORS NOTE: I credited Sean where in fact it was Ellie. I will make sure to plug my brain in next time.
@stephenwray4950
2 жыл бұрын
Was going to comment that did also notice that sound quality changes at point 3.
@tomrobertsfinn
2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenwray4950 yes, a few issues with sound towards the end. Tried my best to match it to the rest. Thanks for all the feedback.
@nickcampa4590
2 жыл бұрын
4. The creature is akin to a Q, who was trapped there by the Q and other similar entities. They need help leaving the barrier because it vastly reduces it's abilities.
@ariadnefrolich7243
2 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, the Q love to mess with and torment other species (Q himself even admitted that much in Deja Q) so the fact that there is a being wicked enough that even the Q are like 'yeah, he/it can't be allowed to roam free' is actually terrifying.
@JohnnyWednesday
2 жыл бұрын
@@ariadnefrolich7243 - Q forced the encounter with the Borg and as a result the federation made preparations. Yes Enterprise crew died - but how many more people would have died had the Borg just shown up one day without warning?
@daviddrake5991
2 жыл бұрын
Number 4 goes to the fact the movie was just bad. It could have been worst. So bad that all the actors almost quit.
@jamesbizs
2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyWednesday ok. How about a warning, that also didn’t speed up the Borg coming for the federation? Kinda pointless to give an early warning , AND also speed up the process by how many decades?
@Naptosis
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbizs They didn't speed up the process; the Borg were already scooping up Federation and Romulan border colonies.
@AeronHale
2 жыл бұрын
The Voth play a major role in Star Trek Online and have their lore and technology further expanded upon. So while not followed up on the TV shows they did do a fair bit with them in beta canon material. Same with the quantum slipstream drives which are standard technology on ships in STO as well.
@bukster1
2 жыл бұрын
I've got to wonder how a space fairing civilization could evolve on Earth however and not leave any detectable trace even by future archaeologist standards. We didn't even find a clay pot or a steam train or a fossilised car. They must have gone straight from mud huts to space travel.
@tetravega567
2 жыл бұрын
@@bukster1 Or they were more environmentally minded, and didn't litter. Perhaps the asteroid hit their capital, maybe they nuked themselves, and asteroid is a human theory.
@josiaharaki7310
2 жыл бұрын
@@bukster1 I thought they were abducted and placed in Delta Quadrant by some other species while they were still dinosaurs?
@gwgux
2 жыл бұрын
There are others, like Trelane possibly being a Q or what humans supposedly evolve into in that infamous Voyager episode about Warp 10, but I'd say these 10 are probably the biggest.
@skwills1629
2 жыл бұрын
There was no Episode called Threshold where they attained Warp 10 and turned into Salamanders. You Imagined it.
@jamesfrankiewicz5768
2 жыл бұрын
That Warp 10 episode should have ended with Paris waking up from a dream and saying, "What the hell did I eat?"
@PaulStompbox
2 жыл бұрын
I thought the Dyson Shell (Sphere) would be on here from TNG: "Relics" .
@bradkiefer1353
2 жыл бұрын
That's the first thing I thought about when I saw the video title.
@FatTonyCT
2 жыл бұрын
About number 6, the damage to sub space in the Hekaran sector was explained in the Voyager episode ‘The Omega Directive’. It was not warp travel that damaged sub space, but it was actually the Omega molecule. Starfleet found about it, suppressed it and limited knowelege to Captains and admirals. That’s why it was never brought up till Voyager.
@Trent957
2 жыл бұрын
The Omega Molecule damage was in the Lantaru sector, not Hekaran. Plus if that was the case, Picard would have known the reason as to why subspace was so jacked up in that area.
@TheRezro
2 жыл бұрын
@@Trent957 I think it is more factor that they didn't know that damage spread there. They most likely didn't know that cases could be related.
@daviddrake5991
2 жыл бұрын
@@Trent957 But they make it clear that other sectors were affected too. They said that other areas you can only travel at sub-light.
@tetravega567
2 жыл бұрын
I initially thought this too, because it sounded too similar/familiar, but if I'm not mistaken, the past Omega incident Janeway mentions happened in the 23rd century. Kirk/Spock's era not Picard's.
@TheRezro
2 жыл бұрын
@@tetravega567 Hm? But I would still guess that incidents could be related. It isn't really a plot hole in larger picture.
@martythemartian99
2 жыл бұрын
Great new content from TrekCulture with only one small flaw. Here's hoping you can soon afford to improve the audio so you don't sound like you are recording in the bathroom. Thank you though for the time and effort you put in to researching these topics.
@jonathanwright8025
2 жыл бұрын
There is also The Traveller - wasn't he the first visitor from another Galaxy to enter the Milkey Way? Didn't he transport the Enterprize to another Galaxy for a few minutes? Also, I think they address the "all humanoids share a common ancestor" thing in the TOS episode when Kirk becomes an American Indian.
@solsol1624
2 жыл бұрын
Re the warp limit, pretty sure at least once after Picard briefed the crew before a mission and said we have permission from starfleet to exceed warp 6. Or was that me just dreaming I'm Picard again 😊
@SportyMabamba
2 жыл бұрын
I deffo remember that line being said once or twice, following the speed limit being introduced, and then it was quietly dropped
@Eric-ch6gq
2 жыл бұрын
The Voth don't really count here because they are actively against any further contact. Janeway didn't get much choice in it.
@moirarinn7826
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Romulan / Human connection, at least for Picard, could have been his relationship / motivation in ST: Picard.
@Crabbok
2 жыл бұрын
Dyson Sphere - the most amazing discovery but then ignored
@varimkadas6068
2 жыл бұрын
... While we are at it, what ever happened to The Traveler?!
@topogigio7031
2 жыл бұрын
Presumably continued to work alongside the Q, though your point is far more interesting than anything Ellie found
@robertanderson5092
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Gary Stu learn the warp trick from the Traveller? He could have rescued Voyage in a jiffy!
@Torus202
2 жыл бұрын
He's probably still out there traveling.
@L1z43vr
2 жыл бұрын
Now, for the Borg Nanoprobes argument and the Quantum Slipstream Drive argument 1. The Nanoprobes could possibly try to re-assimilate Seven back into the collective, so it would be too risky to try. 2. We saw Voyager using the Quantum Slip Drive once and it ended BADLY for them.
@madlarkin8
2 жыл бұрын
I dont think they "forget" about these things... but ultimately they are explorers and have to keep exploring. Once they discover something, they make their report and collect data and send it back to scientists and academies in the federation.
@1D991
2 жыл бұрын
And then said scientists and academics forget about them.
@mrimmortal1579
2 жыл бұрын
Harry Kim- “Oh crap, he’s dead, Doc!” Doctor- “Well, there’s that one thing we could do to fix it… but nah, we’ve successfully done that before. Let’s explore new options to see if something else might work.”
@jonathanwright8025
2 жыл бұрын
@@mrimmortal1579 Pretty much.
@droomonsta
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere that Saurians were also from Earth originally but got moved by another race (I guess Preservers?) before the asteroid hit.
@safebox36
2 жыл бұрын
Voyager did try to explain away the warp thing as the reasoning why it has moving nacelles.
@chbu7081
2 жыл бұрын
The Voth discovery was mentioned as a in a later Voyager episode.
@FrankClark
2 жыл бұрын
I watched this, and then later when I was watching ST:TNG, I was delighted to hear Geordi ask some Ferengi if they wanted to go see the dolphins LOL (S5E21)!
@kaveharzie4967
Жыл бұрын
6.) The Federation established a Warp Speed Limit, but then they also developed more 'environmentally-friendly' warp drives. That's why the M/ARAs of the Defiant, Ent-E, and Voyager are different than the Ent-D's, and it's the explanation for Voyager's variable geometry nacelles.
@DominikHoga
2 жыл бұрын
missing dyson sphere
@TheMajorActual
2 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite not on this list is the _Graviton Catapult,_ from ST:V/S6E9, _The Voyager Conspiracy_ -- THAT's some serious tech that no one apparently bothered with.....
@berner
2 жыл бұрын
Thought you would have mentioned the Cytherians and that amazingly cool hologram tech that lets you create whatever you want based on your thoughts from that wonderful episode with the line "I said shut up! As in close your mouth and stop talking".
@dansmif
2 жыл бұрын
What about travelling to a distant galaxy and meeting the advanced Cytherians (the floating head people!). Did they not bother to keep in touch? Surely they would have been a handy ally to at least contact for some advice with how to deal with the Borg for example!
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
2 жыл бұрын
"Guys, I think we might have found actual gods. They are pricks though, so try to ignore them."
@Peaceforall20111
2 жыл бұрын
I agree that nano probes should have been used more but wondering if it deemed to dangerous to try
@StarFleet_Tech1701
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, StarFleet is not too keen on using Borg technology. They remember Wolf 359.
@Peaceforall20111
2 жыл бұрын
@@StarFleet_Tech1701 exactly
@Lofi_Ethan
2 жыл бұрын
I just want to know more about the Dyson Sphere! TNG introduces a long lost Dyson sphere which has such large implications. A race that could make that would probably be the most advanced species ever, and as far as I know, we learn nothing more about the sphere and its creators ever again. It's the coolest concept ever. give me more spheres :(
@Thurgosh_OG
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't they say that the DS creator had either died from radiation from their star or had left long ago as it seemed abandoned.
@travissmith2848
2 жыл бұрын
Even if the creators are gone the structure seems stable and with that much interior surface area must have some remains that can be learned from.
@TwilightMysts
2 жыл бұрын
@@travissmith2848 In that episode the star was unstable and nearly destroyed the Enterprise D when it was trapped inside the sphere for just a few hours. While the Sphere itself is probably still around, the inner surface is probably pure ash.
@BeyondDaX
2 жыл бұрын
Most advanced? I would have suspected the Iconians would be the most advanced
@juzoli
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! Building that would require more technology and resources which the Federation, Borg, Dominion and the others have together in 1000 years. Or 100 times more. It would be the biggest discovery ever, even by ST standards. And it is there to study, free access to the Federation. They can claim the whole thing. And it is forgotten…
@jonmyers8046
2 жыл бұрын
The entity in ST V was believed to be a Cytherian that was imprisoned on a planet.
@1978rharris
2 жыл бұрын
Uh….nope
@charlesjohnson7458
2 жыл бұрын
@@1978rharris I don't remember if he was Cytherian but Q showed Picard the battle. I can't remember the book it was in. I do remember a huge asteroid being thrown and a fold in space/time was opened. Picard noticed in the fold that the planet the asteroid was heading towards looked really familiar (as it was earth) and Q says, "Bye-Bye dinosaurs."
@jonmyers8046
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesjohnson7458 Ha! That's such a Q thing for him to say lol
@ManabiLT
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesjohnson7458 It's in the Q Continuum series, so either _Q-Space, Q-Zone_ or _Q-Strike._ But novels aren't canon unless what happens in them is mentioned or appears on-screen at some point, which hasn't happened for that.
@jamesleigh7026
2 жыл бұрын
Warp speed on its own doesn't damage sub-space it is higher warp frequency's coupled with certain ship designs. Basically if the ship design has a sleek profile the warp bubble won't affect subspace.
@topogigio7031
2 жыл бұрын
Yea she just didn't watch the show or bother to research
@kurtreber9813
2 жыл бұрын
So you can't make a sleek warp bubble, apparently. Or maybe thats what improvements were made: sleeker warp bubbles
@BigJim5754
2 жыл бұрын
The actress who played the Creater from the chase is same as the founder female from deep space nine.
@tetravega567
2 жыл бұрын
The Voth matriarch actress plays a Talosian in Discovery.
@WarpigGaming.
2 жыл бұрын
What about some fallout from tng season 1s conspiracy ???? Or more on those aliens
@malloryjones5393
6 ай бұрын
In Starfleet’s defense. The one Q they had the most contact with was often so obnoxious most crews didn’t want him around. Making him more relatable really saved the character imo.
@spamhonx56
2 жыл бұрын
They also found a dyson sphere, then sorta shrugged and moved on.
@fieryweasel
2 жыл бұрын
They dispatched a research vessel to study it.
@ivankrylov6270
2 жыл бұрын
The warps tech not changing is not true The excelsior class had transwarp that could go beyond TOS warp 10, and in TNG warp 10 was the absolute speed
@dboymax1
2 жыл бұрын
Yes but that Warp scale in the TOS and TOS movies was changed/revamped by TNG time so TOS Warp 10 is NOT Warp 10 by TNG time. Warp 10 is infinite speed in TNG time...
@ivankrylov6270
2 жыл бұрын
@@dboymax1 logically from the excelsior class technology requiring the warp scale to be redefined from a linear to asymptotic scale
@ericpode6095
2 жыл бұрын
There was a TNG episode where a a "future" Riker orders warp 13 (the episode where there's an anomaly across several time zones & Picard flips backwards & forwards between them).
@Thurgosh_OG
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericpode6095 'All Good Things' An actual good ending for a Trek series.
@travissmith2848
2 жыл бұрын
Can we also point out that the internal combustion engine in use today uses the same basic design principles as 100+ years ago and that is a tweak to the piston based steam engine from 200+ years ago?
@hogfry
2 жыл бұрын
Voyager was DESIGNED to minimize damage to subspace. Every ship built after her had warp tech that minimized subspace damage. And other older ships were retrofitted with the safer warp technologies as they were designed.
@owenshebbeare2999
2 жыл бұрын
Er, right, where did you hear that?
@iriswaldenburger2315
2 жыл бұрын
@@owenshebbeare2999 it IS canon in the shows and the books and novels
@taylortay7554
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I always hated the “warp damages space” story arc. They do reference being approved for exceeding warp 5 restrictions in at least one episode after, but then it’s completely abandoned. It was clearly a clunky analogy for climate change that they realized would unnecessarily hamper the series if it was adhered to.
@crabobserver
2 жыл бұрын
3:30 As data said to isac Newton. "that is a myth" Q was just trolling her
@o-mangaming5042
2 жыл бұрын
Eh, it's a bit more than trolling. That Isaac Newton stuff was being used as evidence in a trial, wasn't it?
@Blendercage
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think starfleet would embrace immortality. There could be a Prime Directive argument in there.
@GenuineMattyC
2 жыл бұрын
Great job, Ellie! Welcome to the channel. Hope to see many more videos presented by you 🙂🖖
@rodgerp.639
2 жыл бұрын
Ellie is fabulous!!!
@davidgraham-parker
2 жыл бұрын
Star Trek writers saying that all humanoid life came from one species, that we are all kindred-spirits - that's great writing, that humans really should look deeply into. If they did, racism and bigotry would be called out as being pointless. We are all family.
@ContemporaryCompendium
2 жыл бұрын
We all know we're one race. That doesn't stop anyone from being a racist or bigoted, unfortunately.
@girlgarde
2 жыл бұрын
The various Humanoid races in Star Trek always find reasons to hate and fight each other sadly.
@dragon22214
2 жыл бұрын
@@ContemporaryCompendium it's also more complicated then that
@LordDarthHarry
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair about Slipstream, it requires a rare material to function. I think Book mentioned in Discovery Season 3 that practically nobody has that.
@heartoffire5902
2 жыл бұрын
I imagine they also didn't really try very hard to find a way to synthesize the material or find other ways around it - considering transwarp and spatial trajectors are more accessible and easier to replicate. The Borg assimilated the species that invented slipstream and didn't bother to use the technology because they already had something more efficient.
@jamesbizs
2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, since when do we cere about what they say in discovery?
@topogigio7031
2 жыл бұрын
Discovery isn't canon. It's literally not canon at all.
@LordDarthHarry
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbizs Since it doesn't conflict with what was said before, explains why every federation ship isn't rocking a slipstream drive the material he mentioned was used by Voyager to build it's prototype and we aren't manbabies
@LordDarthHarry
2 жыл бұрын
@@topogigio7031 I don't think you know what the word "literarily" means.
@dr.charlesedwardflorendobr3952
2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the damage of space tims fabric due to high warp speeds was supposedly fixed by modifying the warp nacelles.
@JohnCastleSmokeless
2 жыл бұрын
What Star Trek would have benefited from most would have been a hybrid between episodic and serialized styles, using an "evolving" writers' bible.
@williamcoughlin3666
2 жыл бұрын
The aliens that the singing whales were in contact with might have been the Xindi Aquatics.
@Glitch_Online
2 жыл бұрын
That bubble that surrounds the galaxy.
@topogigio7031
2 жыл бұрын
lmao you mean like the real life one? Read a book.
@525Lines
2 жыл бұрын
I like to think the Cetacean ops are for the Xindi aquatic, who are now involved with the Federation and maybe even camping out in Earth's oceans.
@TheRezro
2 жыл бұрын
I think the same thing
@JohnnyWednesday
2 жыл бұрын
Cetaceans are specifically whales, dolphins etc - it's an order - not a general description for aquatic life. Aquatic Xindi are not Cetacean - they're Xindi.
@TheRezro
2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyWednesday Yes, but the tanks were build for Delphinus. Though it would make sense that various aquatic species would work there.
@BlaqJedimaster
2 жыл бұрын
Now I LOVE this channel, but THIS vid is FANTASTIC!!! Definitely things to think about!
@davidh5645
2 жыл бұрын
It was not T'Pol's ancestor, it was T'Pol herself who gave the Velcro to humans. It was a time travel episode.
@chupposity
2 жыл бұрын
What about the time that Barclay got connected to the ships computer and basically took over everything. Wouldn't that connection be a groundbreaking advance?
@countsdooku
2 жыл бұрын
When was it established that the Q can read minds? They are highly intelligent and very intuitive, but I don't remember them as having telepathic abilities.
@keyoguitar
2 жыл бұрын
I've always found it curious that even though Janeway helped Q out on several occasions she never thought to ask him to get them home.
@andreb.1352
2 жыл бұрын
would be cheating
@counterfeitsaint7479
2 жыл бұрын
Worse than that, Q offered to send her home in thanks and she's like "Nah, that's cheating. We're gonna do it the *right* way." Not Pictured: The right way apparently is rewriting history and bringing future tech back. Gotta stick to those principals.
@JohnnyWednesday
2 жыл бұрын
@@counterfeitsaint7479 - That's not the reason she said no - he was trying to use it as a bargaining tool in order to get his hands on Q the suicidal - asking a starfleet officer to sacrifice somebody for their personal benefit isn't asking at all.
@francessimmonds5784
2 жыл бұрын
@@counterfeitsaint7479 janeway contradicts herself. In the episode where Qs son is sent to Voyager and in gratitude Q sends them a few light years home and she asks why not send them all the way, he doesn’t, but I can’t remember the reason he gives.
@Gunnar001
2 жыл бұрын
@@francessimmonds5784 Janeway is a psychopath that constantly contradicts herself.
@firstcynic92
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot finding out that humans will evolve into 2 legged amphibians that are no longer sapient and can reproduce amazingly fast.
@JamieAllen1977
2 жыл бұрын
that's just one possible evolutionary state; remember wesley became q-like and "Enterprise" had regressed humans living underground.
@aeonjoey3d
2 жыл бұрын
Great job Ellie!! Glad to have you aboard! Love the jokey jokes and well placed snark 😂 🖖
@maxstr
2 жыл бұрын
What about the countless ways they've figured out how to detect cloaked ships, and never use those methods again.
@MikeB-nn4nh
2 жыл бұрын
They conveniently adjust the cloaking tech so now it's harder to detect again
@mumblesbadly7708
2 жыл бұрын
What about the incredible discoveries during TOS that were completely forgotten about/ignored in future episodes? Two immediately come to mind: (1) The hyperspeed-up water on that super-populated planet that McCoy developed an antidope for that could used to temporarily speed up crew members so that they could more effectively perform repairs on the ship. (2) the device that those beings from another galaxy in “A Rose by Any Other Name” that can temporarily turn humans into small portable styrofoam-like shapes, which could used to save space and resources when ferrying humans when traveling long distances.
@selvahechicera4292
2 жыл бұрын
I notice the progenitors, or whatever they were called, look an awful lot like the founders. I mean a LOT like them. Just an observation. And, yes. The Founders can look like anything they want. BUT. They seem to always default to this look. I don't think the writers were thinking about some deep trickery here, likely by the founders. But, wow. They could sure do something with this if they wanted to drive the fans nuts today.
@topogigio7031
2 жыл бұрын
You mean like they did...
@selvahechicera4292
2 жыл бұрын
@@topogigio7031 When? What did I miss?
@Thurgosh_OG
2 жыл бұрын
@@selvahechicera4292 Same Actress for both parts.
@PriestessOfDada
2 жыл бұрын
They did address the warp thing. The federation initially restricted warp, but they reworked the technology to make it more environmentally friendly. It's mentioned all over the place
@DocWolph
2 жыл бұрын
Life extension technology in Star Trek is cursory at best compared to the most advanced research today. You would think Humans living to a healthy and spry 150+ would be the new middle aged by the 23rd century, forget 24th. Bones was pushing 140 in "Encounter at Farpoint". ...Deforst Kelly, at rest. His labors done.
@jonathanrichter4256
2 жыл бұрын
There have been numerous super races. The Metrons, the Doud, Sargon and Thelayssa, the Organians!, The First Federation (although, actually, it was really just Clint Howard in a really powerful ship), The Preservers , that entity in the spatial rift that wanted to experiment on the crew, The Caretaker, etc.
@ThePirateburke86
2 жыл бұрын
Why they never looked into Hyperdrive engines is beyond me. Stargate ships are so much faster than anything Star Trek has
@FVanth
2 жыл бұрын
Trademark and Copywrite laws? 😉😅
@Thurgosh_OG
2 жыл бұрын
Different 'in universe' physics. Trek has Subspace and SW has Hyperspace, with it's mapped lanes for safe travel.
@iriswaldenburger2315
2 жыл бұрын
Hyperspace and sub space are the SAME thing… There is an episode in SGA “McKay and Mrs. Miller” where Genie asks Carter “so, subspace is real?” And carter just says “you’re flying in it”
@harryswinburne9288
2 жыл бұрын
quantum slipstream does get used tho, even if it was just a throwaway line in discovery
@charlesjohnson7458
2 жыл бұрын
The being in ST V fought against several Q, lost, and was imprisoned.
@ManabiLT
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that's from a novel and not considered canon until it's mentioned/appears on-screen. It's the same for all the novels & comics.
@dmanc85
2 жыл бұрын
I still love on VOY when Q takes them back to the Big Bang, B'Elanna states "This ship will not survive the formation of the cosmos" in such a deadpan way.
@MrShaunhunter
2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the reason for voyagers nacelles going up to reduce the damage from using warp in space?
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