I strongly believe that Avery Brooks is one of the most underrated actors I have ever seen. His portrayal of Ben Sisko was incredible.
@sgtisom0609
3 жыл бұрын
So true! Its a shame that Avery Brooks will probably recognized for his outstanding portrayal of Captain Ben Sisko posthumously by a new generation of fans. 👏
@jameswise3971
3 жыл бұрын
I strongly agree
@deepblue2
3 жыл бұрын
Strongly agree.
@BuzzKirill3D
3 жыл бұрын
I weakly disagree.
@someguy1286
2 жыл бұрын
He definitely took it seriously which was why it was such a great show
@AttentiveDragon
4 жыл бұрын
Something really subtle here: Sisko is ready to just accompany Worf to the party without a lecture, but the moment Worf begins to show that he understands he was wrong, Sisko's entire demeanor changes. He knows that Worf has presented him with a perfect teaching moment, and he steps into that role fluidly. He quietly answers Worf as he steps inside, and waits for the door to close before asking his follow-up question. Seeing Worf disquieted and troubled by his own actions, Sisko knows in that moment that this is a perfect opportunity to shape him just a little bit more towards the Captain he could be one day. Just watch Avery Brooks at 56 seconds in. He transforms from Captain to mentor, and it's an incredible thing.
@DblOSmith
4 жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting.... that STD/STP doesn't have such good writing? I LOVE SCIENCE.
@XTRABIG
4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis.
@mijubo
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah good analysis. It's funny cause good teachers/mentors do this thing all the time. And it often feels like worf would have been better off if he hadn't cared about it at all. But that is totally wrong as Sisko did not want to lecture worf about the errors he made. But on the contrary tell him that he is right with his assessment and should not sulk over it. As there is no one to forgive him for his errors but himself. Its funny how sometimes telling somebody else that they fucked up is more relieving than telling them everything is okay. Took me quite a while to figure out that the thing that sisko did here is not really teaching but showing ones respect for another human being. But just as and advise (does not work for TV though) Sisko could have been better imho if he would have asked worf in the end if worf knows why he was saying that, the response would have been something stupid, but than sisko would have the possibility to say: "No, it's because you sitting here makes you a damn good officer". He said the same thing but sometimes making the other person switch perspectives gives them more to think about themselves. Worf and Sisko are just damn good characters played by damn good actors. Really shows you that we can learn so much from great art.
@Antonicane
4 жыл бұрын
The moment Sisko steps through the doorway is the exact moment Ezri means when she tells Sisko he intimidates Worf. You can almost see the gulp.
@krishelfferich8260
3 жыл бұрын
Jesus man go outside.
@XTRABIG
4 жыл бұрын
When Sisko says "at ease commander" in response to Worf saying "yes, sir", it is to let Worf know that this conversation is not a formal reprimand nor a a threat and that he is not speaking to him as his Captain, but as his friend.
@omnientertainment5852
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jcohasset23
Жыл бұрын
Not so much as a friend but as a mentor to a pupil. He wants Worf to understand this is friendly advice from an experience that could have turned out so much worse. He sees in Worf the potential to be a really good captain and imparts on him advice he feels will help with that.
@XTRABIG
Жыл бұрын
@@jcohasset23 Perfectly stated. 💯
@NPCSingularity
Жыл бұрын
His big brother. I’ve gotten that reprimanding prep talk before with mine.
@paulengler9726
7 жыл бұрын
It speaks volumes to Worf's character that just the POSSIBILITY of accidentally killing unarmed civilians and children weighs so heavily on his mind. "You got LUCKY." "I do not FEEL lucky." "And that's why, despite all that's happened, you're gonna make one Hell of a captain, some day."
@AdmiralKarelia
6 жыл бұрын
Honorable Klingon warriors do not attack defenseless civilians. There is no honor in in defeating an enemy that cannot fight back. And Worf's human upbringing further reinforces that innocent non-combatants are to be protected.
@timf7413
5 жыл бұрын
This entire episode had some great character development for Worf, especially when you realize that in the TNG days, his reaction was always to suggest they charge into battle.
@Alexander-bc8dh
4 жыл бұрын
@@timf7413 That the difference between those 2 series. TNG was all about the single story episodes, while DS9 was more on character depth and a continous storyline (dominon war)
@victorkong82
4 жыл бұрын
Worf is a war orphan. I'm sure the possibility struck close to home.
@xvdvn2216
4 жыл бұрын
Victor Kong A Worfan, if you will. I’ll see myself out.
@Elthenar
4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had the voice of Avery Brooks. That voice is a large part of what made Sisko great.
@Dysan72
4 жыл бұрын
Obligatory kzitem.info/news/bejne/paOO4JWjhXaYeaA
@tenkenroo
4 жыл бұрын
He’s got a voice that makes Klingons wake in fear
@6364LEGACY
3 жыл бұрын
I'd sell my soul for a voice like that.
@andrewlocke3389
3 жыл бұрын
Michael Dorn, too, as well as J. G. Hertzler, who played Martog.
@47Str8
3 жыл бұрын
It's a big as DS9 itself!
@joemasters2270
8 жыл бұрын
This is why Sisko is badass. Giving Worf (another badass) the advice he needs :)
@captainpharaoh
7 жыл бұрын
As much as Worf respects both Picard and Sisko, only Sisko could have schooled him like this. Why? Because Sisko intimidates Worf. And sometimes you need that to teach a lesson.
@quentinmwilson9837
2 жыл бұрын
To quote Grand Admiral Thrawn. "I am a warrior. A warrior may retreat. He does not fee. He may lie in ambush. He does not hide. He may experience victory or defeat. He does not cease to serve." This feels like something Worf would stand by.
@blockmasterscott
Жыл бұрын
And he said it so artistically!
@DanTasticEntertainment
5 жыл бұрын
This and many other scenes, defines why I love Sisko. Even when he's reprimanding, even when he's royally pissed, he NEVER talks down to his crew. He always shows them the respect which he himself commands. He'll chew them out, tell it like it is, but then end on a note that says "this is how you do it." Another mark of a great leader. He makes you want to do better, even when those teaching moments don't always feel good.
@SamaritanPrime
5 жыл бұрын
He reprimands Worf later for leaving a Cardassian defector to his fate in order to get a severely wounded Jadzia Dax to safety. After he tells Worf exactly what the consequences were for his choice, Sisko drops the ranks and says "If it had been me and Jennifer... I would have done the same thing."
@dhinton1
3 жыл бұрын
@@SamaritanPrime and Benjamin was absolutely right, on all accounts.
@Slitheringpeanut
3 жыл бұрын
It's clear you've never served in a military capacity. Cuz, otherwise, this episode would bother you. Worf did nothing wrong. A cloaked vessel isn't suspicious, as it blunders and conveniently decloaks IN FRONT of another vessel?
@ffnbbq
2 жыл бұрын
@@Slitheringpeanut Starfleet isn't strictly a military organisation. It's both a navy as well as a civilian branch of the Federation, which was Sisko's point. Worf made a decision based on sound military tactics, but Starfleet doesn't risk civilian lives for any reason.
@jmwoods190
6 ай бұрын
@@ffnbbq And Starfleet's got a bit of coast guard in the mix too. And since you've mentioned Worf's sound military tactics clashing with the Starfleet's more pacifist protocols- Sisko dealt with this more constructively way than Picard did: Instead of just shutting Worf down like the latter often did, Sisko actually explains to Worf when NOT to rely on sound military tactics, eg the events of this episode, while letting Worf's inner warrior shine when appropriate. And as great a mentor Picard has been to Riker & Data, Sisko has clearly been a more compatible mentor to Worf.
@RingLordSonic
10 жыл бұрын
when Sisko said "in spite what has happened, you are going to make one hell of a captian some day" that should be used as a promo if this new 'captain worf' star trek show goes ahead.
@PetersaberHD
6 жыл бұрын
And later he squandered his chance to ever become a captain
@Jokie155
5 жыл бұрын
@@PetersaberHD Normally I'd headcanon that episode out of existence, but at the same time it so aptly explains why Janeway became an admiral before Picard, in that his role in Insurrection ended up leaving him stuck with a frozen career for reasons swept under the rug.
@PetersaberHD
5 жыл бұрын
@@Jokie155 I thought Picard refused the promotion to admiral?
@GameFawx
4 жыл бұрын
@@PetersaberHD He did. Because he took Kirk's advice to never leave the Enterprise.
@ananousous
4 жыл бұрын
@@GameFawx He knew that all Starfleet Admirals become villains
@BijouBakson
Жыл бұрын
"Wait till you get 4 pips on that colar! you'd wish you'd gone into bottany" Every clip is like poetry. 🙂
@LordTalax
11 ай бұрын
Collar and botany. Seek a spell checker.
@BijouBakson
11 ай бұрын
Seriously? Are you like that with everyone on KZitem? Tell me please... Between an idiot and a mere pure pain in the you-know-what, which one are you? Here comes my first answer to you... First of all, I don't get paid for posting comments on social media; so it's not such a big deal to miss an "L" in my spelling. Second, for all that it's worth, I could have been drunk when I posted that. And ummm... it's such a big mistake huh? You've never made a spelling mistake in your life I guess? To prove to you that I can spell, I made sure that I post this long comment with exactly 0,000,000 mistake, so that you get it clearly in your narrow mind that I indeed can spell, and that my grammar is excellent. And now, to top it up, I am pleased to inform you that, among other things I wouldn't care to mention here, I am a Microsoft Azure Solutions Architect Expert, and a harvard graduate from the School of Computer Engineering & Applied Science. Read that over, and over, and over, until you are met with the humiliation you deserve, in your safe corner. @@LordTalax
@Zigzagzodak
4 жыл бұрын
I see why Ezri said Worf was intimidated by Sisko. Sisko is ferocious and highly intelligent.
@rba301
3 жыл бұрын
Jadzia
@angiejoyner5967
3 жыл бұрын
Kinda like Picard! In my opinion, they're the best captains in the whole franchise. ;)
@lotusjewell9984
3 жыл бұрын
And the only Starfleet Captain with the balls to punch Q in the face
@dhinton1
3 жыл бұрын
@@rba301 no ..... Jadzia KNEW it but never actually SAID it to Worf. Ezri flat out said it.
@dhinton1
3 жыл бұрын
Benjamin intimidated the shit out of me and I just watched him on television 😂😂
@cbdsteve
12 жыл бұрын
When this show was good, it was really REALLY good.
@evertonporter7887
4 жыл бұрын
@Yuki BabaYaga I'm watching it now, and I must say the writing and dialogue is just so good!
@ojgoudeau
2 жыл бұрын
amen and amen.
@gaoutlaw
11 жыл бұрын
Picard could handle Worf ok, but Sisko handled him like a boss.
@blanemylke4144
4 жыл бұрын
Because he's not Picard.
@Ray_D_Tutto
4 жыл бұрын
Picard was more of a idealistic father figure to his crew.
@SOCORROSILVA-in7px
4 жыл бұрын
Each captain runs his/her ship as he/she sees fit. Mar 17, 2020 @ 12:53 am.
@fatman123526
4 жыл бұрын
Picard was handling a younger, different Worf. A Worf that hadn't embraced his human side as much yet. Worf under Sisko had learned he could still have his Klingon honor without having to be the most overly Klingon ever. Younger Worf held a chip on his shoulder because he was a "half breed" and resented himself.
@crylittlesister6377
4 жыл бұрын
Picard: "You want to destroy the ship and run away. You coward." Worf: "If you were any other man, I would KILL you where you stand!" Sisko: "What was that, Mr Worf?" Worf: "Nothing sir"
@SerPinkKnight
15 жыл бұрын
"Wait until you get four pips" No kidding when we think of the responsibilities placed on Captains in Star Trek. Sisko is basically the Governor of the whole border with Cardassia and more besides.
@BlackDiamond2718
4 жыл бұрын
and the gamma quadrant
@richardm3023
4 жыл бұрын
@ericlogos Ahh, you must be part Romulan to be that clever.
@PaperMario64
3 жыл бұрын
And emissary
@dhinton1
3 жыл бұрын
The presence of the only stable wormhole in the known galaxy changed the ENTIRE complexion of Benjamin's assignment to DS9. the presence of the Prophets, and them revealing to him that he was their Emissary, changed his relationship with Bajor. the arrival of the Dominion and Jem'Hadar made him gatekeeper for the biggest powder keg in two quadrants. Benjamin Lafayette Sisko was a badazz on multiple fronts.
@Slopmaster
2 жыл бұрын
And part god.
@pittland44
9 жыл бұрын
I like this because we see Sisko the teacher, something he didn't do enough of in my opinion. We saw him do it with Worf, Nog and to a lesser extent Bashir and Dax and it was always great when he did it.
@austinperry1671
3 жыл бұрын
I assume Ezri Dax?
@CarvaxIV
2 жыл бұрын
@@austinperry1671 Jadzia too. When she let a little too much Curzon out, Sisko was there to pull on the breaks. See when Worf’s brother tried to commit suicide.
@hellatze
2 жыл бұрын
sisko better teacher than picard
@Bigtrek34
4 жыл бұрын
Sisko really taught Worf how to be a leader. If he had stayed on the Enterprise he would have not developed beyond Security Chief.
@Kiyosuki
4 жыл бұрын
This scene really defined how DS9 evolved Worf into an arguably far more interesting character than he ever got to be on TNG imo. There were many great moments like that to come but this kind of established the trend for me. Worf's weakness as a character on TNG was his difficulty seeing things from a broader perspective required of a commanding officer, and it always seemed to be a wall he was never able to overcome on the Enterprise; but then this happened on DS9, and yeah he's lucky he has no "dead children" on his conscience but the fact Worf realizes that, and how lucky he truly is in many ways represents him finally breaking that wall; making way for a far more nuanced and experienced Worf. I could never see Worf as a commanding officer on TNG, but on DS9 I could see at least see the hypothetical commanding officer he has the potential to become now.
@omnientertainment5852
2 жыл бұрын
I love DS9 Worf. So much fight and character.
@fatman123526
2 жыл бұрын
TNG Worf was a senior officer but in security, which limits your view to threats now and in the very near future. TNG Worf had a good tactical sense, but didn’t understand strategy, like losing a battle to win a war. Though Kira is Sisko’s first officer, DS9 Worf is effectively the federation first officer on the station. Getting thrown into the constantly fluid geopolitics of the region really started reshaping his view of the world he lives in.
@hillwigs3
8 жыл бұрын
This is a great scene! Throughout the course of the series, we saw Sisko wearing a lot of the "captain as" hats: As leader, as strategist, as voice of reason, as passionate warrior. One of the hats we rarely saw was Sisko as mentor. That makes this scene so much more appreciable .
@dalemcilwain
3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite hats he had on is father.
@BlackSkullArmor
6 жыл бұрын
Damn when Sisko said he was LUCKY he had no dead children on his conscience, I legit felt chills.
@ThePathStrider
4 жыл бұрын
Worf DOES have one dead child on his conscience. It was an accident, during a game shortly after his adoption on Earth.
@m3xicanstandoff
4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePathStrider that episode was horrible. Everything about it made it a chore to get through
@ThePathStrider
4 жыл бұрын
@@m3xicanstandoff Can't remember the rest of the episode, so you're probably right.
@Zigzagzodak
2 жыл бұрын
That is why war is hell. If you had to see families and children get annihilated. If you had to see families and children you KNEW get annihilated. So many things can eat you up even if you achieve victory it's no victory for your soul.
@LordTalax
11 ай бұрын
@@m3xicanstandoff It was vital in the development of the Worf/Jadzia relationship.
@abstractedaway
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons I'm glad TNG and DS9 were a part of my youth. They modeled characters who admit and learn from their mistakes. Now *that* is a role model.
@greyofpta5305
11 ай бұрын
1:33. A few years later... Sisko: "Hey, watch me poison this colony's atmosphere with trilithium LOL!"
@ojgoudeau
4 жыл бұрын
I love how CPT Sisko steps into the room to give that chewing that Worf had coming. Totally professional.
@Revkor
3 жыл бұрын
worf didn't have it coming. Worf was fully in the right.
@dhinton1
3 жыл бұрын
Worf DID have it coming ... the ONLY reason that Worf wasn't extradited was bcuz of what Odo discovered about that civilian ship's passenger "manifest". it was a setup that Worf failed spectacularly.
@dhinton1
3 жыл бұрын
and the truth is ..... NOBODY ELSE was on the Defiant when Sisko came to Worf. it truly WAS a professional courtesy for him to do so FULLY INSIDE his quarters.
@Revkor
3 жыл бұрын
@@dhinton1 no this is bad writing pure and simple. He is in a combat situation with ships that can and do cloak during it. and cloaking leaves them vunerable for a few seconds in the process. Worf made the right call to defend his ship and the convoy he was protecting.
@Cailus3542
3 жыл бұрын
@@Revkor Do me a favour: look up the story of the USS Vincennes and Iran Air 655. An American cruiser fired on and shot down a civilian airliner in 1988 because they were "defending themselves", panicked and failed to properly identify their target. That was probably the inspiration for this episode. It's happened several times. The Soviets did it, the Russian-backed Ukrainian separatists did it, the Iranians did it, and as I said, the Americans did it. In each case, they were "defending themselves". In each case, hundreds of people died. When you're using lethal force near civilians, especially on that scale, you don't make assumptions. You verify. If you think that Worf was justified here, just imagine being in his shoes. Imagine visiting each family who lost a father, a wife, a son, a sister and trying to justify your actions.
@northprime_unlimited
Жыл бұрын
Worf learned more from Sisko than he did from Picard.
@Earthman99999
2 жыл бұрын
Capt. Sisko is arguably the toughest captain among the others that had their own TV series. Could tell that Worf gets intimidated by Sisko.
@captainpharaoh
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. After all, this is Sisko we're talking about. He's a man who does not suffer fools. To prove his point, he punched Q in the mouth, knocking him on his ass.
@JCDenton2012Modder
7 жыл бұрын
Worf feels "intimidated." XD
@Princess2Warrior
5 жыл бұрын
*The body-language of the two would indicate the opposite.*
@aarongreenfield9038
4 жыл бұрын
@@Princess2Warrior. worf knows and respects an authority figure when he sees one. It is a mutual respect between alpha males.
@animateddepression
4 жыл бұрын
"But Sir, I was just going to put on some klingon opera and cry myself to sleep" "Go put on a blue uniform and be a bitch then. You can help Keiko collect space trees tomorrow."
@casmx7300
5 жыл бұрын
I love how at this point in the show, there isn't a single doubt in Sisko's mind that Worf is going to make Captain. It wasn't until much later when Worf abandons the mission to save Jadzia that we learn his chances at Captaincy are all but gone. Still though, in this clip Sisko is 100% convinced that he's speaking to a future Captain of the Federation.
@jasongould04
Жыл бұрын
We later learn he got the enterprise 1701-e
@josefwolanczyk4866
20 күн бұрын
@@jasongould04HE DID??? …frankly, that’s perfect.
@emissaryofcharybdis105
3 жыл бұрын
Only a Klingon could avoid shitting his pants from Sisko staring at you and saying "That was your first mistake."
@crazylarryjr
4 жыл бұрын
I always likes Sisco, he leads by example and teaches with tough love. You can see the respect he has for everyone (Worf in this case), but he knows sugar coating things doesn't make it easier
@animateddepression
4 жыл бұрын
TNG had moments too. Unfortunately they were few and far between. Lower Decks is an underrated episode.
@LordTalax
11 ай бұрын
If you liked him you could spell his name correctly.
@crazylarryjr
11 ай бұрын
@@LordTalax I watch the shows to be entertained, not be berated by grammar and spelling Nazis. Get a life
@Gangerworld
4 жыл бұрын
I loved this scene. Sisko is a great Commander but also a teacher, encouraging Worf who's new at Command. It's great.
@danieldickson8591
2 жыл бұрын
Worf is bigger, more aggressive, more physically intimidating; but Sisko is scarier when he wants to be.
@danieldickson8591
9 ай бұрын
Ezri told Sisko that Worf is intimidated by him. 😉
@vidfan1701
Жыл бұрын
When two great actors get great material, they can elevate it to the sublime. In a scene of less than 4 minutes, we find new depth in characters we thought we knew. Bravo to them both!
@mkbuddy
4 жыл бұрын
Captain Sisko understood Worf far better than Captain Picard
@Blondesax
6 жыл бұрын
Man, give us Captain Worf in the new Picard series!
@vrASMR180
5 жыл бұрын
They better. Otherwise why have a series with Picard if not to revisit some of his crew from time to time?
@Spacegoat92
5 жыл бұрын
Worf is an Ambassador now.
@AthleticQuails
5 жыл бұрын
You think Martok will give up his Targ hunting partner so easily??
@jhwheuer
5 жыл бұрын
I’d rather see Alexander
@owlsayssouth
4 жыл бұрын
I think i will pass on rubber mask STD worf. Thankfully the actor agrees.
@asanufer999
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always said that Captain Sisko is the best captain in the Star Trek universe.
@owlsayssouth
4 жыл бұрын
He is. But i usually disqualify him from my rankings, because i feel the position should be judged only between mortals, so in his absence kirk wind.
@Kiljaedenas
4 жыл бұрын
Well, he was a bit overdramatic at times, but considering the royal flaming crap he had to deal with compared to pretty much everyone except Janeway and he still got through, he was definitely a good captain.
@owlsayssouth
4 жыл бұрын
Look, being a demigod leads to being quite dramatic.
@richardm3023
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kiljaedenas Janeway was awful. She was the equivalent of Gilligan.
@dalemcilwain
3 жыл бұрын
You are correct.
@duberdurm
2 жыл бұрын
A ST series with Worf as the captain and competent writers? That would make my life.
@danielkubin3878
Жыл бұрын
Actually Michael Dorn really want bring back Worf as main character in Star trek: Captain Worf TV show, it was intended after Enterprise TV show, however CBS did not want any Star trek show during that time, shame.
@BlackChapters
Жыл бұрын
@@danielkubin3878 damn, thats shit I'd love a Worf show
@LordTalax
11 ай бұрын
Too old now.
@DeL-sm8bl
5 жыл бұрын
This isn't only applicable here but in life as a teacher, a father, a leader, a husband. Sometimes smiling is the last thing you want to do.
@Wayne_C_Kelly_II
5 жыл бұрын
I Always Felt That Sisko, And The Rest Of Deep Space Nine, Treated Worf With Integrity. Picard's Engagement Towards The Klingon.. Wasn't Of The Same Caliber: Comic Relief, Dismissive, And Rare Moments Of Honor. Deanna Tori Appeared To Be The Sole Crewmen... Who Matches The Level Of DS9 Respect, Rightfully Bestowed To The Son Of Mogh.
@tachyontee3877
4 жыл бұрын
There's validity to your point of view. When Lt.Cmdr. Worf first came on on board the Enterprise E, Cmdr. Riker mad a like quip to Worf questioning he still remembers how to fire phasers. Yeah, Cmdr. Riker is a jovial man, but still.
@CoolsBreeze
2 жыл бұрын
You really understand what being part of Starfleet is all about when Sisko says this speech. It's all for the greater good.
@marcolima1617
2 жыл бұрын
The Dynamic between them is something I always loved. With Picard the relationship felt more like a Master-Apprentice...even Father-Son at times. With Sisko, there was always a sense camaraderie...almost brother-like....at the very leas brothers-in-arms.
@JGlennFL
5 жыл бұрын
DS9 was the best of all the Star Trek series. The characters, the acting and the writing.
@fredocarroll
4 жыл бұрын
The acting was decent, and Avery Brooks had his moments (like here), but he was more like Shatner and overacted too much.
@ambermcjack8406
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this clip should be played to all police academy students and rookies joining the army or navy !!
@wwclay86
4 жыл бұрын
Well the military mostly watches trek anyway. It's been seen..
@bigmeknurgle
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like you think police and military personnel aren't basic human beings who feel empathy for others, only autonomous kill-machines.
@ambermcjack8406
4 жыл бұрын
bigmeknurgle I have no idea where you got that analogy ! But definitely way off lol .There about 3-4 great points that Sisko makes about being a leader . One of them is that they don’t put civilians at risk and sometimes it means they die in their defence .
@RowanBarkRoo
4 жыл бұрын
You just took the words right out of my mouth after I rewatched this scene. Especially conserning the police right now, like Sisko said "we don't put civillians at risk or even potentially at risk to save ourselves, sometimes that means losing the mission or even our lives, but if you can't make that choice, then you can't wear that uniform"
@ArticBlueFox96
3 жыл бұрын
We should just abolish the police (and prison) and abolish the standing military and switch to a purely reserve military. However, I agree that so long as we have military, the rule should be "we do not put civilians in danger or even potentially in danger, and sometimes that means we lose the battle or even our lives." This is the kind of job where you agree that your life is forfeit if need be, and if one cannot accept that kind of risk then this is not the right job for them. P.S. I most assuredly would not fight for any military for any country.
@whodareswins999
7 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite lines of the whole Star Trek universe: Wait till you've got four pips on that collar. You'll wish you had gone into botany.
@richardhamblen5526
3 жыл бұрын
HAAAAAA! JUST WHAT I WAS THINKING, LOL..
@ndileonardo
9 жыл бұрын
Great lesson on leadership here
@RedFenril
8 жыл бұрын
+N D Indeed. Not just in a military environment like Starfleet, but in the real world if you are a manager or a supervisor. The lessons Sisko shared with Worf can also relate to those who are in positions of command in the real world.
@UnconundrumNet
7 жыл бұрын
It's true. Chuck-e-cheese managers should not open fire on decloaking cars even if the drive-thru has shut for the night.
@fredocarroll
3 жыл бұрын
_Several_ great lessons here. 1. Don't shoot at targets without a proper evaluation of their potential threat. Applications: military, police, home defense. 2. A good boss uses failures as an opportunity to teach and berates, but no more than necessary. Sisko uses a variant the positivity sandwich model: (a) there's a party, (b) you done f-ed up, (c) come to the party and celebrate. Applications: management, command, education. 3. A good leader knows how to provide the troops with what they need, even if that's not xer mood at the moment. Applications: any leadership role whatsoever.
@Cage532
12 жыл бұрын
I kind of remember a line by Ezri Dax in the last season. She was having trouble dealing with Worf and Sisko offered to talk to him. "No don't say anything. you intimidate him." (it was something like that) Worf respected Picard but Sisko scared him at times. Sisko using bio weapons on a Maquis world comes to mind as a moment when Worf was taken a back. Caption Sisko, The last human to have a pair of brass balls in Star Trek.
@Darkphoenix007A
7 жыл бұрын
Cage532 More like neutronium dipped in latinum!!!!
@joshuaewalker
3 жыл бұрын
The look on Q's face when Sisko bops him shows just how brassy those balls are.
@dhinton1
3 жыл бұрын
Benjamin using those weapons on those Maquis-populated planets WITHOUT consulting with Starfleet SOLELY for the purpose of getting Michael to surrender ........ the Defiant isn't big enough for the set he had to do that. and let's not even speak of what he (essentially) allowed Garak to do to bring the Romulans off the nonaggression pact in S6.
@dalemcilwain
3 жыл бұрын
You are spot on!
@bryannelson6139
10 ай бұрын
While Patrick Stewart is an excellent actor and did a fine job on TNG, Avery Brooks was one of the best actors in Star Trek, and was the most interesting captain of them all. Colm Meany as Chief O’Brien did a fabulous job and I really liked how they expanded his role in DS9.
@greenboots_4661
2 жыл бұрын
"There are no dead children on your conscience." "Well, sir, there was this soccer game back on earth..."
@magnusdiridian
3 жыл бұрын
2:36 Imagine if Q showed up at that exact moment... "BUT I FEEL LIKE CELEBRATING!!"
@FrankBlissett
4 жыл бұрын
"We don't put civilians at risk, or even potentially at risk, to save ourselves." ... An appropriate quote for the USA in 2020.
@ThePoshboy1
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a hard job to do, but all in all you are correct.
@Prodigysportsman
3 жыл бұрын
It's a luxury that you can have when you are fictional characters living in a fantasy universe. Those of us in the real world have to abide by the reasonable reality since the beginning of humanity: collateral damage happens even when you don't target civilians and take great measure to prevent it.
@Cailus3542
3 жыл бұрын
@@Prodigysportsman The whole point is that you take great measures to prevent it. In this episode, and indeed in several real life instances where civilian airliners have been shot down (including one by a US Navy cruiser), great measures were not taken to prevent it.
@archentity
9 жыл бұрын
I love that last line.
@Grubnar
9 жыл бұрын
I bet Keiko O'Brian does not love that last line.
@dragblacker557
8 жыл бұрын
+Grubnar Keiko is annoying. Miles' coolness instantly drops whenever he's with her. They're horrible together.
@stratfordbaby
11 ай бұрын
Considering the timeline. Worf's promotions through the ranks have been GLACIAL.
@Conchobhar
8 жыл бұрын
Hey, man. I'm sure botany has its challenges.
@kellyrayburn4093
6 жыл бұрын
Sure, botany has it's challenges. But in botany, lives aren't at stake. And compared to a captaincy, botany is tame. With botany, all you have to worry about is plants. When you're a captain, you have to worry about your crew, be responsible for everything they do, make decisions that are sometimes impossible and then live with the consequences of those decisions. And command is lonely. You can't be one of the men. You always have to hold yourself up as an example. And you cannot (if you expect loyalty and respect) ask others to do what you will not do yourself.
@kellyrayburn4093
6 жыл бұрын
I guess we have differing senses of humor. I understand what he is saying, but I don't find it amusing. I find it degrading to those who have taken the command track and chosen to accept the challenges and responsibilities of leadership.
@TheVergile
6 жыл бұрын
yeah. just read the martian
@kellyrayburn4093
6 жыл бұрын
Tommy Gunns Absent emoticons, there is no way to detect sarcasm. Without an appropriate emoicon, there is no way to tell if the person is being serious or facetious.
@kellyrayburn4093
6 жыл бұрын
Whatever.
@MichaelFormoso
Жыл бұрын
I do hope a 4K Box set comes out the the entire DS9 Series. Moments like this need to be preserved in posterity for their incredible moment to moment interactions that defined a generation of Trekkies. Moments that still send chills down my spine for being so memorable and amazing.
@beyerdr
4 жыл бұрын
Sisko and Worf always made for great scenes. 2 of my favorite characters in all of star trek
@oscarsoto8428
5 жыл бұрын
When Sisko walks through the door, it shuts behind him, and then he says, "That was your first mistake." That wasn't meant to be intimidating, but if that had happened to me in real life, I would have shat my pants.
@DanTasticEntertainment
5 жыл бұрын
one thing about Sisko, he plays it completely cool...until he doesn't.
@XTRABIG
4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Jem'Hadar who first beamed over to DS9. O'Brien an ordered a containment field around him but at the right moment the Jem'Hadar walked thru the field to prove a point.
@JFinSD2
12 жыл бұрын
True....but Sisko was one of the few Starfleet Officers that could go toe to toe in hand to hand combat with a Klingon. The only other guy that would be confident in hand to hand combat against a Klingon would be Will Riker.
@dalemcilwain
4 жыл бұрын
Shoot, in one episode Sisko out Klingon the Klingons.
@GetterRay
4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Kirk but only when he has HAD. ENOUGH. OF. YOU!
@JFinSD2
4 жыл бұрын
@Yuki BabaYaga If he couldn't handle himself against a Klingon.....then the Klingon he beat via the alleged sucker punch would not have respected him and taken his orders. The guy challenged his authority. Riker recognized the challenge and got the first blow in. If you are in a situation where a fight is about to break out....you don't fight fair......you don't say to the other guy..."I say old chap....we're going to fight using the Marquis of Queensbury and will tell you when I am going to attack so that you'll be ready". Paleese.
@Xerdoz
2 жыл бұрын
Data could take on Klingons easily.
@TheWinterShadow
4 жыл бұрын
Me: Captain Worf, who was the Starfleet officer that had the most impact on you? Worf: Captain Sisko. Me: What about Captian Picard? Worf: Who? Oh, yeah. Him too.
@richardm3023
4 жыл бұрын
Worf: "That little bald man who spent all his time reading and playing with his little flute?"
@dac314
2 жыл бұрын
Worf going Red, and the responsibility that arises in that uniform. Awesome portrayal!
@tilasole3252
Жыл бұрын
The botany line is one of my favorite quotes from Star Trek.
@develynseether4426
3 жыл бұрын
You're a Starfleet officer, that means we play it safe and take twice as long as anyone else to win a war!
@potsdam28
3 жыл бұрын
Unless we decide to trick someone else into fighting
@spyrofan9681
26 күн бұрын
I love that Sisko makes a distinction between Starfleet decision-making and Military decision-making, that's the distinction that had Brad Boimler beating up outpost scientists years later.
@newfound_adventures
16 жыл бұрын
two amazing actors.
@ZemplinTemplar
5 жыл бұрын
Such a nice, earnest scene between the two. :-) Very human, but very professional at the same time.
@Marinealver
8 жыл бұрын
I'd like that lecture in the end. One of these days they are going to promote you, then you know you really are in some serious trouble.
@lynnmooreholmes9058
4 жыл бұрын
Sisko is the man, helps worf recognize his error and why, but not letting him forget his future role in time. Being balance he must attend the event regardless of his personal feelings with a smile for the crew! Excellent motivator skills!
@Revkor
3 жыл бұрын
accept it wasn't an error
@aronpuma5962
5 жыл бұрын
I think that a great thing about this show is that it still, over twenty years later, sparks such interesting conversation about the morality of the decisions. Like, it isn't a matter of "were the actions not in Sisko's character," of course they were, both his speach here and his later actions are quite in character for him, this serious, deliberate captain. But we can still engage with what it all means, what was the moral choice in this situation. Even today, in our oversaturated grimdark, cynical media landscape, we don't really get these kinds of nuanced moral situations presented, because it is either just, resolved that it was actually all fine and not immoral the whole time (what the MCU likes to do) or it's just like the end Game of Thrones, which tries to be edgy and shocking for its own sake, damn any actual thematic discussion.
@KendrixTermina
7 жыл бұрын
"You intimidate him" indeed.
@SOCORROSILVA-in7px
4 жыл бұрын
In Star Trek: The Next Generation Worf was a Lt. Commander. Now that he is in Deep Space 9, although he is a Commander, he realizes that wearing the red uniform carries responsabilities that must be shown. Mar 16, 2020 @ 9:18 pm.
@BrotherDerrick3X
4 жыл бұрын
Worf was promoted to Lieutenant Commander in the movie Star Trek Generations. He remained that ranked until the end of DS9 when he was made Federation Ambassador to the Klingon Empire.
@Wizardof
Жыл бұрын
He HAS four pips on that collar now, Benjamin.
@chrispile3878
5 жыл бұрын
One of Sisko's greatest speeches!
@VoltesWithElias
4 жыл бұрын
An amazing scene. So well written and acted. That entire episode is a gem.
@Zigzagzodak
2 жыл бұрын
Ben has lots of those in DS9. With Nog. With that ex Starfleet he was pursuing.
@BrentHarmon
5 жыл бұрын
Sisko "Wait until you have 4 pips on that collar. You'll wish you had gone into botany"
@stevenjennings197
2 жыл бұрын
The only man Worf was afraid of was Sisko. He was humbled, yet Sisko used it as a teaching lesson for command and for Worf's future.
@mikeh7917
4 жыл бұрын
He knows Worf is a good man.
@Brian6587
7 ай бұрын
Worf really evolved immensely on DS9. I think this took him to the evolution of his character that we see on Picard.
@tarrker
5 жыл бұрын
My uncle is a veteran of the war in Vietnam. He survived an air drop, they promoted him and, sent him right back out again. The man loves everything Star Trek but, to this day, he simply cannot bear to watch Deep Space Nine with me. I think that says something although, I'm not really sure what.
@anthonyl3517
5 жыл бұрын
I think it's because Ds9 is realistic and depicts the brutality, destruction, and hard choices in war and probably reminds him of Vietnam, also it's probably why he likes the other shows because it depicts a brighter future. Just a thought. :)
@tachyontee3877
4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking he doesn't want to look at AR-558 type episodes.
@johnstitt2615
7 ай бұрын
The character Worf was a true and honourable warrior. He understood the difference between pride and honour. Honour will forfeit pride when the right thing must be done.
@Afalstein
2 жыл бұрын
Sisko fosters Worf (and much of his crew) in a way that Picard and Kirk simply don't--possibly because that's less a consideration on a starship at the far edge of the galaxy. Sisko's belief that Worf could be a stellar captain in his own right is inspiring, and quite possibly the first such belief that Worf has encountered from either Klingons or the Federation (though Picard did temporarily give him command of the Enterprise).
@PhillipLemmon
Жыл бұрын
2:38.... This can be said of parenting as well! LMFAO!
@larrychatfield
4 жыл бұрын
such a great scene. getting to see the connection and interaction amongst high ranking officers who understand the complexities and responsibilities that command requires
@garydavis4661
3 жыл бұрын
best part of the scene is getting worf to understand that even though they are not Klingon starfleet has just as much pride in what they are. Worf chooses to wear that uniform and it has weight just like being a Warrior has weight to a Klingon. What I alway liked about worf's character is how much he respects starfleet and being a klingon and merges those two parts of his life.
@patrickradcliffe3837
3 жыл бұрын
Back when Star Trek writers understood the source material, the characters and write a good story doing both!
@Mark73
2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen SNW?
@patrickradcliffe3837
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mark73 yeah I've caught a couple of episodes. I've watched the season finale a couple if times comparing to source material. While having moments they are few.
@bostonrailfan2427
2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickradcliffe3837 so you’re saying you are talking out of your ass as you haven’t actually watched it and were just looking for excuses to say “it sucks”
@garrysmith6734
2 жыл бұрын
My favourite pep talk ending with the hash slap "wait till you get four pips on that collar, you'll have wished you'd have gone into botany' if words could be made into a slap in the face then that quip would be it.
@RPGrandPaTabletop
Ай бұрын
The greatest Star Trek series of all time.
@ToumalRakesh
7 жыл бұрын
3 Minutes and 11 Seconds of pure character development and dialogue. Who wants to bet whether star trek discovery series is gonna bother with more than ten seconds of that in any given episode?
@wolfmanjacksaid
13 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I think Sisko is at his best when he is trying to convery his beliefs to his crew in a scolding way like at 1:15 "You're damned right you should have checked!" He just comes across so intense it is so dramatic.
@andrewnlarsen
10 ай бұрын
For those that have seen the deleted scenes on Star Trek Picard season 3...there is a scene between Worf and Riker that well brings this particular scene back to mind.
@Jmilewil5
23 күн бұрын
This a great example of leadership and mentorship.
@anonymone453
3 жыл бұрын
"... you're gonna make a hell of a captain someday." "... Wait til you get four pips on that collar." Sisko recognizes Worf's potential. Possibly because Worf is so troubled by his own errors.
@tomroberts915
Жыл бұрын
I always liked that unlike with Picard, Sisko expects more from Worf. He listens to him more than in TNG, and doesnt handle him with kid gloves
@LordTalax
11 ай бұрын
And doesn't say no to his every suggestion.
@tonyfranklin8306
4 жыл бұрын
Such an under rated actor, a shame he never came back on TV to ply his trade in a meaty role but treading the boards and teaching have been his thing by all accounts.
@BrentHarmon
4 жыл бұрын
The deal grind of a TV series working 12 to 18 hours a day for 7 years wear a person out.
@Squirrel36
16 жыл бұрын
Avery and Michael! I LOVE these men!!!
@J0krswy1d
8 жыл бұрын
Worf, the botanist!
@williamcostigan91
6 жыл бұрын
"I have discovered this new breed of Daisy, FOR THE GLORY OF THE EMPIRE!!!"
@jamesmartin9401
6 жыл бұрын
Don't let him hybrid ANYTHING!!!!
@marcziegenhain8420
5 жыл бұрын
The new Boothby
@Jokie155
4 жыл бұрын
He'd just keep thinking back to having to help with Molly's delivery.
@jerodast
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jokie155 Haha man that's the first thing I thought of too. Botany! -> Keiko! -> delivering a baby! -> "I will be visiting my parents, on Earth, for the whole year, so sorry I'll be so far away..."
@bobpage6597
6 жыл бұрын
"Wait until you get 4 pips on that collar, you'll wish you had gotten in to botany!"........there is something amusing about a burly Klingon playing with his plants :)
@LCBanga
5 жыл бұрын
For what it worth. Starfleet never fires first or at least that’s Starfleet’s 1st rule of engagement. Worf knew that. So with that, his strong sense of honor and his heavy guilt...any other man would have committed suicide or at least quit Starfleet with all that weighing on him. Shows Worf’s strength of character.
@maxwell_edison
3 жыл бұрын
Worf, so distraught at the concept of being into botany, had his entire face distort in disgust at the end.
@luismoro5720
4 жыл бұрын
Being a service member I can understand the full context of this scene. Captain Sisco was educating Commander Worf on the Burden of Command. When you rise in the ranks your career are your men and women and their well being. You will succeed because they succeed, and you will suffer the consequences when they get killed in the line of duty. You will also have to live with both their success and their tragedy.
@rjframe4410
4 жыл бұрын
leadership: WE succeed, I fail, the men succeed as a group, Only I fail as the leader. The burden falls upon me.
@richardhamblen5526
3 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY..
@RaymondFootman
11 ай бұрын
Wait 'til you get four pips on your collar. You'll wish you had gone into botany...One of my favorite Sisko quotes.
@XTRABIG
Жыл бұрын
Imagine the type of man you can become accepting being led and tutored by Picard and Sisko.
@chrisconnors7327
Ай бұрын
Huge fan of captain. Sisko❤
@RobeonMew
Жыл бұрын
Sisco is officially the best captain of all Star fleet
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