Happy Sunday everyone! This film was an emotional rollercoaster. I was all over the place. I have posted a poll in the community tab related to how to move forward after Star Trek IV. Please feel free to participate. Obviously, I am going to watch all the films and TNG, but I wanted some more feedback. Live Long and Prosper 🖖
@thesharpercoder
Ай бұрын
Wrap up the films with the OG crew.
@tombo1984
Ай бұрын
Love your reactions Court. All the best from the UK. 🇬🇧
@chake46
Ай бұрын
Courtney, as you just viewed. There was sadness & outrage when Spock died!!! Everyone shed tears for him.
@Dracounguis
Ай бұрын
The original series movies have zero crossover with TNG. It's best just to finish them off before going to TNG.
@RobGMun
Ай бұрын
In the Directors cut, it turns out the young engineer that dies in sickbay was Scottys nephew. That's why everyone is so cur up about it
@logandarklighter
Ай бұрын
Let's all give credit to DeForest Kelley (Bones McCoy) for catching - and correcting before it was filmed - a serious mistake in the writing of Spock's death scene. You see - when the script came down and they started reading it, Kelley realized that the script called for him and Scotty to grab Kirk to prevent him from flooding the engine compartment with the still concentrated radiation in the chamber beyond. And it was SCOTTY who was to say "You'll flood the whole compartment!" and it was MCCOY who was to say "He's dead already Jim. It's too late." Kelley realized that it was WAY too similar to a line that had been REPEATEDLY used by him in the original series. "He's dead, Jim." He actually doesn't say it as often as many fans think, but it was enough to ascend to Star Trek Meme status. Kelley reasoned that if he said what the script said for him to say - it would distract the fans, and might even inject a moment of unwanted humor into the situation - and this moment needed to be DEADLY serious. If this wasn't corrected, it would ruin Nimoy and Shatner's upcoming scene. So - he got together with Jimmy Doohan, and they made a switcheroo! It's MCCOY that says "You'll flood the whole compartment!" And it's Scotty who responds to Kirk's plaintive "He'll die!" with "He's dead already!" And then back to McCoy for "It's too late, Jim." These are still reasonable lines for these two characters to say - McCoy is looking out for the health of everyone else that he can, including Kirk. And Scotty - as much as anyone, would know how deadly the radiation is and that Spock was a goner. Such a simple, but genius move. It saved the scene and the switch-up is never really noticed except by us old fans who have seen all the old interviews and know the trivia.
@AtomicBuffalo
28 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this here.
@5Gburn
26 күн бұрын
Brilliant!
@chriscma1
Ай бұрын
While filming Spock's death scene, director Nicholas Meyer was taken off guard when he realized some of the stage crew were weeping. That was the moment it hit him just how important these characters were.
@EastPeakSlim
Ай бұрын
Five years ago a dear friend of more than 40 years passed. He was a huge Trekkie and identified most closely with Spock. At his Celebration of Life, I spoke Kirk's words: "of my friend I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most human." RIP Mike!
@martinbraun1211
Ай бұрын
The "Genesis Device" video is the first FULLY CGI Rendered sequence in movie history!
@CourtReacts-zm9yv
Ай бұрын
I had no idea! That is cool.
@revans18
Ай бұрын
and the star field in that sequence is a recreation of what the stars would look like from an actual perspective ata distant point from Earth not just random stars
@thesharpercoder
Ай бұрын
I believe the scene was awarded a special Oscar.
@maestro80smusic93
Ай бұрын
This was the first CGI sequence. If you want to see the first use of CGI, watch the original Westworld film from 1973 if you haven't already...
@dq405
Ай бұрын
Actually, one of the earliest uses of CGI on film was in the opening credits of Hitchcock's VERTIGO. John Whitney used a computer to create its visuals, but not a digital computer; instead, he used an analogue targeting computer from the second world war. Much later, Douglas Trumbull created *fake* CGI screen read-outs for 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY. He built a mechanized animation stand to simulate computer graphics without actually using them. He did something similar for THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN, by using slit-scan photography to simulate CGI -- a striking visual effect. In 1973, WESTWORLD used digital image processing to alter photographic footage into a robotic perspective, but you could argue that this was not computer *generated* imagery.
@kevinburton3948
Ай бұрын
I saw this in the theatre back in 1982. People were walking out of the theatre openly sobbing all the way into the parking lot. I was 12 years old. I think I cried for a week!
@peterschmidt4348
Ай бұрын
Even though I've probably seen this film 30 times, I still get tears in my eyes at the end!
@HawkGTboy
29 күн бұрын
YUP.
@davepalliaser4798
26 күн бұрын
I just got teary eyed watching Court watching this. Gets me every time and I was there opening night in the theatre where people were openly sobbing just sitting in their seats right through the credits too emotionally shocked to leave their seats. I think watching every episode of Star Trek 30-50 times before this film came out I and most of the crowd in the theatre had formed a love of the cast and Spock dying was like losing a family member. It was devastating then, and still emotionally impacting now.
@Sephiroth144
Ай бұрын
One thing to remember; the Enterprise was on a training mission with cadets- these were not even fully trained officers (not enlisted). They're not even rookies, they're essentially students.
@andreabindolini7452
24 күн бұрын
Remains to be explained why a top-class Federation Heavy Cruiser, that has received a total reconstrution only a decade earlier and still is the fastest ship in the Fleet, was withdrawn from active service and downgraded to training ship.
@Sephiroth144
24 күн бұрын
@@andreabindolini7452 Not sure if a canon reason was given, but could think of a few; rotation among older (but still functional) fleet ships, so each one becomes a training vessel for X months for a Cadet Class to train on; a type of "in port" (or whatever the naval equivalent of being "in garrison" is) for the vessel (back to back to back Five Year Missions or the like might be problematic for crews and actually having a family or the like, so some time in the home port makes sense) Quite likely it wasn't so much retired/withdrawn, as its current mission was training near the home port. Likewise, we know the fleet was diversifying, with the Mirandas and Excelsiors, at a minimum, coming up...
@staceyward777
Ай бұрын
Court, I'm a 57 year old man who's been a Trekkie since I was 4 years old. I saw this movie when it came out in the theater and have watched it, literally, hundreds of times since. I still get teary eyed, and I'm a 30 year, hardened military member. That devotion to duty and unhesitating willingness to sacrifice is what it's all about. I wish more people understood that. Something that may have missed your notice, the young Ensign, Peter Preston, that Scotty showed up carrying in the turbolift was his nephew "my sister's youngest", which made the "injuries" during the battle scenes all the more poignant. And if I may offer my opinion on your viewing, watch 3, 4, 5, and 6 but you can't watch 7 (Star Trek: Generations) until after you've watched all of The Next Generation. But you should watch 3 and 4 while this is still fresh in your mind. The rest can wait.
@RaynorBear
Ай бұрын
Totally agree.
@rexmundi2986
Ай бұрын
Meh, I'd advocate for just skipping 5.
@logandarklighter
Ай бұрын
@@rexmundi2986 I wouldn't. It's probably the worst of the classic 6 TOS Movies. But that STILL makes it far better than most things - and LIGHT YEARS better than any recent Trek or Star Wars dreck! For me - it's not the main plot that's the most interesting thing. Though it's passable. Their was - get this - a writers strike in Hollywood right when they needed the script to be polished by editors! The more things change, the more they stay the same. And the effects are slipshod because ILM was working on at least 2 other movies at the time and Paramount had to go with a cheaper alternative. It's the CHARACTER interactions that make Star Trek 5 work. It comes off more like a TV movie of the week than a full theatrical release. But if it had been that - it would've gotten EXCELLENT TV ratings. No - Star Trek 5 is nowhere NEAR as bad as people think. It's still a fun watch. You just have to accept it for what it is and what it isn't. Like I said - it's "the worst" of the 6 TOS movies. But it's still good entertainment!
@tvdroid22
Ай бұрын
IV gets me teary too. When Sarek compliments Spock near the end of the film, well, father and sons, you know.
@notmee2388
Ай бұрын
@@logandarklighter Star Trek V = Rocky V. The worst of a great series is still pretty good, and worth watching.
@jerrykessler2478
Ай бұрын
To put it in perspective, Peter Preston was Scotty's nephew, his sister's son. I saw this movie in the theater and, when the Enterprise popped up behind the Reliant, a tremendous cheer rose from the audience. It was very emotional. When Spock died, there wasn't a dry eye in the house.
@76TomD
Ай бұрын
That scene and several others were cut from many versions of the film. ABC aired a longer version which included alternate scenes and ones that were cut from the major releases. Peter's scene with Kirk in Engineering is one such scene
@patricktilton5377
20 күн бұрын
I have an answer as to why Scotty brought his dying nephew to the Bridge first, before taking him to Sickbay. Peter had literally saved the ship by staying at his post while the other trainees ran from theirs, knowing he would be killed by the after-effects of breathing in the engine coolant gases that had ruptured. Peter knew he was a dead man -- but, having gone into Star Fleet because he idol-worshiped his uncle, he wanted to see with his own eyes that the sacrifice he had made -- which saved the ship -- had managed to keep the Enterprise in-the-fight. Peter Preston wanted to see the Bridge at least once before he gave up the ghost. Scotty was going to bring him to Sickbay right away, but Peter insisted on being brought to the Bridge, knowing Dr. McCoy couldn't save him. It was a kind of 'Make-a-Wish' request that Scotty didn't have the heart to deny his dying nephew. For years, James Doohan had to face the interminable question as to why he -- i.e. Scotty -- brought the dying lad to the Bridge instead of to Sickbay, and he -- from what I gather -- would wave the question away, as if it was staged that way just for dramatic effect, despite not making much sense. But it DOES make sense, if we grant that Scotty knew in his heart that it was hopeless -- that his nephew had mere minutes to live, and that his dying wish was to see the Bridge, to see that the ship was still in-the-fight. And it was Peter Preston's example that gave Spock the instant insight that the ONLY way to save the ship at the end, when Genesis was on a countdown to detonation, would be for someone -- for HIM -- to sacrifice his own life getting the Mains back online. Peter could have run away from his post during the initial attack, like the other trainees -- but then the ship would've been destroyed all-the-sooner, and they ALL would've died then. Peter was able to buy Kirk enough time to gamble on his use of the Reliant's PREFIX CODE (etc.) -- but at the cost of his own life. Spock, the Captain of the ship, closed his eyes in silent grief upon seeing the dying boy in Scotty's arms, knowing that at some level that boy was going to die because his and/or Kirk's command decisions had failed. Kirk colloquially referred to it as getting caught with his britches down. Had Kirk raised shields sooner -- heeding Saavik's quoting of the Regulations -- Khan's attack wouldn't have been as devastating . . . and Peter would not have been in the position where he had to sacrifice his own life to save the ship. Spock knew that . . . and, thus, knew what he had to do when the ship was crippled and unable to escape the blast-vicinity of the Ultimate Weapon. Still the greatest STAR TREK movie of them all -- hell, the best STAR TREK production of all time, including the entire run of TOS . . . of TAS, of TNG, DS9, VOY, DIS, SNW, of all of 'em. Magnificent film!
@darthparadigmsilluminatedb1461
Ай бұрын
My father took me to see this back in the day. When Spock died, as a total dedicated Star Trek fan... I was crushed. However, I didn't expect that this would be the first time that I saw my father get emotional, and he shed some tears. This movie is an indelible part of me. It warms my heart that you were able to experience and enjoy a movie that means so much to many. Live long, and prosper!
@miller-joel
Ай бұрын
30:50 Actually, Kirk did face a no-win scenario. Edith Keeler.
@sarahfullerton6894
Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@fredklein3829
Ай бұрын
Also Errand of Mercy (the Organians raided the game) and Devil in the Dark (death by asphixiation or by radiation poisoning). Maybe I could think of others.
@mattx449
Ай бұрын
The young trainee that died was Scotty’s nephew. The directors cut has a scene establishing that, not sure why it was removed.
@CourtReacts-zm9yv
Ай бұрын
That should have stayed in! It makes more sense now why Scotty was so emotional.
@davidfox5383
Ай бұрын
@@CourtReacts-zm9yvagreed. The longer directors cut is available on Blu-ray which includes the scene that establishes this.
@FrancisXLord
Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was removed for pace - same reason the death of Ripley's child was removed from Aliens.
@Otokichi786
Ай бұрын
@@FrancisXLord "Pace must not be broken." Judy Garland's performance of "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" broke the pace and was almost edited out of "The Wizard of Oz" (1939). Sometimes the studio heads are WRONG.
@mattx449
Ай бұрын
@@FrancisXLord they chose… poorly.
@woidonmiguel1
Ай бұрын
I have seen this dozens of times, and when Kirk breaks saying "most....human" I tear up everytime
@benjauron5873
Ай бұрын
Kirstie Alley was so beautiful. She would have been so great if she was just, you know, like, _sane._ Rest in peace, gorgeous... Geez, more people in this cast are dead than alive! Now I feel old...
@jcortese3300
Ай бұрын
This isn't just the best Trek movie, or SF movie, it's one of the best movies ever made. I saw it when it premiered -- the theater was packed and on the edge of their seats throughout, and the whole audience was crying at the end, unashamedly, with the wonderful, honest, and TOTAL LACK OF SNARK OR IRONY that the Trek universe enjoyed at that time. Nowdays, that's out of fashion and everything is about artsy gore and dank hopelessness, but the most wonderful thing about Trek is its optimism and honesty. This fandom wears -- or wore, at the time -- its heart on its sleeve. Please watch the next movies as well.
@marvel22-mf1js
Ай бұрын
I think the best star trek movie is first contact but some of the best star trek movies were tv movies and the best star trek movies were the most of the tv movies from deep space nine.
@synaesthesia2010
Ай бұрын
but skip the fifth one, it adds nothing to the franchise
@w3-watchingwithwombat79
Ай бұрын
@@synaesthesia2010 well it did do one thing. It reminded us that Nimoy was the best Trek director at that time and Shatner had no business sitting in the big chair. The director’s chair, I mean 😂
@baron7755
15 күн бұрын
Whats wrong with SNARK or IRONY, and why did you feel the need to capitalize them?
@roxannlegg750
2 күн бұрын
Also the test screen at the time didnt have the sun coming out at the end and the speech about the rebirth...the patrons (fans) left too sad and feeling very very down. So by adding that last bit - it changed the tone from depressing to just sad...but just maybe....theres hope
@Dracounguis
Ай бұрын
Now imagine waiting TWO YEARS for the next movie! 😭
@hippusmaximus9319
Ай бұрын
And remember, this was the year 1982. There were only THREE TV networks, no streaming or internet. This was all people had of Star Trek at the time. The sad thing is that fans have died between this and the next film, without knowing there was a resolution or not.
@Rick-c5s
Ай бұрын
"Of all the souls that I've encountered his was the most.... Human..." (Gets me every time)... Bravo William Shatner! I loved following you watch all of TOS before you watched this movie... A real joy! and I love how you always thank the military for their service! Thank you! ❤
@shallowgal462
Ай бұрын
Spock's ghost: "I do not believe it is within your prerogative as my superior officer to insult me at my eulogy."
@Rick-c5s
Ай бұрын
@@shallowgal462 LOL 😄
@Capohanf1
Ай бұрын
SECRET, DEEP DOWN ALL THINGS ARE HUMAN!
@toddwalker4301
28 күн бұрын
Shatner used the exact amount of needed emotion delivering that line. Great acting!
@tulinfirenze1990
26 күн бұрын
Court: "There are always alternatives." Spock: "The are always possibilities."
@miguelbotelho2613
Ай бұрын
Spock’s death was shocking, imagine those of us that saw this in theatres back in 82? I for one Was bawling my eyes out in disbelief.
@BarronK-kb8td
Ай бұрын
I was 9 years old when we was leaving I was crying and kicked and ash tray and garbage can over. I have seen this movie over a 100 times ,but only seen the 3 times being 51 still cant handle it!
@miller-joel
Ай бұрын
Spock's death was leaked before the movie came out, and fans were furious, so they "killed" the entire crew in the training exercise to keep it as a surprise.
@miguelbotelho2613
Ай бұрын
Well I certainly wasn’t aware of that, I learned my lesson from Star Wars TESB. When I read the marvel comics illustrated magazine. Which had that big revelation, so I tried to keep away from spoilers. But the rumours did fly around, and you’re right I thought that his supposed death at the beginning was it, no worries.boy what a punch to the gut.
@kdrapertrucker
Ай бұрын
At the time Lenard Nimoy had resented the spock character and made it a condition of his appearing in the film that spock die. After seeing audience reactions to Spock's death he realized that spock was a very important character that people really cared for. So when the studio came behind ng for him to do star trek 3 he was ready to come back, but demanded to direct it as well. Since he had always wanted to direct a film. This started a tradition in Star Trek productions of allowing cast to direct episodes. Tng basically set up a school for cast members to learn directing before directing episodes.
@JMUDoc
27 күн бұрын
Not just the best Star Trek film, but one of the best science fiction films ever made. Nick Meyer (director) knew _nothing_ about Trek coming into this, but by god, he did his due diligence.
@rmccombs66
26 күн бұрын
I wish they would have had someone that knew Star Trek read the script. In TOS they never called the engines "the Energizers". The warp engines were never called "The Mains" They never said "Comm pick". Subspace radio was never called "Hyper Channel."
@dirtyburd71
Ай бұрын
I have watched this movie countless times. I still tear up at the end. I grew up watching these characters ever since the original series began. Although these are fictional characters, there is an emotional bond that is formed. People are a remarkable thing, huh? It's like seeing your friend die every time.
@CourtReacts-zm9yv
Ай бұрын
The emotional bond is very strong.
@RETNASCANZ
Ай бұрын
Yes, please wacth Star Trek V and VI before starting TNG. Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country is another Great one!!!
@actioncom2748
Ай бұрын
Congratulations! You just watched the greatest film ever made.
@Bfdidc
Ай бұрын
Definitely the best Star Trek film.
@texvor6949
Ай бұрын
Strong acting performances in this one. Everyone plays their part well big and small. This is the movie that basically restored the star trek franchise, without it the franchise would be dead or vastly different.
@AtomicBuffalo
28 күн бұрын
Kirk's very small "no" is one of the loneliest moments I've ever seen on screen, brilliantly played by Shatner.
@VegetaLF7
Ай бұрын
I love that there isn't just mindless action in this. Every single shot that Reliant and Enterprise took was important to the story.
@Pondimus_Maximus
28 күн бұрын
Yes, very true! Every exchange of fire drastically changed the circumstances for each ship. It was very well thought out. 🖖😀
@Pentarax
Ай бұрын
Me every time I see this movie: I won't cry. I will get through this without crying. Me every time Kirk's voice breaks during the eulogy: *reaching for tissues*
@lawrenceschuman5354
29 күн бұрын
Years ago, my daughter calls me: "Dad, what's the PIN to your computer?" Me: "It's Reliant's prefix code." Her: "Dad, I've only see it once."
@Pondimus_Maximus
28 күн бұрын
Ha! Love it! 🖖😀
@ztomas1
Ай бұрын
Sad that so many of them are gone.... RIP Leonard Nimoy, Kirstie Alley, Nichelle Nichols, Deforest Kelley, Ricardo Montalban, Merritt Butrick (Kirk's son) and James Doohan
@jonathandonley3299
16 күн бұрын
Bibi Boech as well
@silikon2
Ай бұрын
Scotty's joke about having suffered a bit too much shore leave was actually a mild gag about James Doohan's real life heart attack.
@BedsitBob
28 күн бұрын
Ricardo Montalban played Khan brilliantly. The controlled anger (which became uncontrolled just once) was a great way to portray his hatred of Kirk.
@KevinLockamy
Ай бұрын
Yes, Ricardo Montalbán simply could do nothing else but dominate any scene he was in. Truly a magnificent actor and physical specimen even at the age of 62.
@tulinfirenze1990
26 күн бұрын
7:08 The officer trying to contact Captain Terrell and Chekov is actually Mr. Kyle - one of the transporter officers from the Original Series.
@Dracounguis
Ай бұрын
I believe the initial training scene was created to be a cover for Spock's death. Rumors had gotten out that he dies, so of course they have him 'die' on the training simulator. 😉
@s.kusmeti
Ай бұрын
Yes. Finish the films. I think you really want to watch Star Trek 3 next. It picks up right where this leaves off. We are not done yet with Genesis or the character arcs for David and Saavik.
@vincentsaia6545
Ай бұрын
In WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE Gary Mitchell reminds Kirk about "a little blonde lab technician" whom he fixed Kirk up with while at Starfleet Academy whom Kirk "almost married". The rumor in STAR TREK lore is that the lab technician was Carolyn Marcus.
@PJAvenger
Ай бұрын
Hi Courtney - Spock is dead! A lot of people were annoyed that he bumped into the wall. He was blinded by the radiation. Live Long and Prosper :)
@roykassinger6903
28 күн бұрын
They also almost deleted the moment when Spock adjusts his uniform, thinking that it might provoke laughter, until someone explained to Myer that that was defiantly what Spock would do.
@kennethlee494
Ай бұрын
In the months before this was released it got out that Spock dies in the movie, then in the training simulator when he "dies" we all breathed a sigh of relief. Then came the gut punch of his actual death at the end that left us in tears. The way I see it the events on Ceti Alpha V broke Khan's mind, one by one the people around him were lost, including his wife, that drove him insane. That is why all he thinks about is getting revenge against Kirk at all costs.
@treetopjones737
Ай бұрын
His wife was the Enterprise crew girl who betrayed Kirk, and decided she wanted to be with Khan.
@w3-watchingwithwombat79
Ай бұрын
It has only occurred to me now that Kirk really REALLY f’d up by never checking in on Khan’s status during those fifteen years
@reidmason2551
15 күн бұрын
@@w3-watchingwithwombat79 He probably assumed Starfleet was keeping tabs, since his logs recorded the encounter. But Starfleet's had its share of corruption and bureaucratic stupidity, so Khan likely fell thru the cracks regardless of what Kirk did or didn't do.
@Nopcode42
Ай бұрын
There is no sadder music for me than James Horners music when Kirk runs to engineering from the moment he looks at Spocks empty chair 😭😭😭
@RobXHEphotosPs37.29
Ай бұрын
Best space battles ever in a film, superb practical effects, as well as James Horner's fantastic music score. Enjoyed your reaction Courtney!
@marvel22-mf1js
Ай бұрын
There were other better space battles in film(tv movies an big screen) but this one of the best for the original star trek crew.
@WmTRiker
Ай бұрын
The reason for them killing off Spock was because Leonard Nimoy had tired of playing the character and refused to return for this movie...until producer Harve Bennett made him an offer he couldn't refuse: a glorious death scene. With that, Nimoy was on board.
@marcharkness6101
Ай бұрын
And in doing so, Nimoy found he was having too much fun and by the end, wanted a way back in.
@WmTRiker
Ай бұрын
@@marcharkness6101 And that was enhanced by his position _behind_ the camera for the next two films!
@reidmason2551
15 күн бұрын
@@WmTRiker He almost lost out on directing the next two movies, because fans and even some Paramount execs believed he had Spock's death written into his *Wrath of Khan* contract. It took lot of negotiating to get that mess cleared up.
@fyreflye100
Ай бұрын
This is why we have reaction channels -- to see genuine, heartfelt, unspoiled reactions like you gave us here. So please don't apologize for being all over the place. Your reaction was perfect... Also when did you start calling Checkov "punkin"? LOL, somehow it fits. That may be my new favorite nickname for Checkov.
@MusicHandsAbrupt
29 күн бұрын
I love your reactions so much. The part that gets me every time is not only Spock’s death, but when David tells Kirk that he is proud to be his son. It’s so powerful.
@AlanCanon2222
Ай бұрын
I had a stroke at age 13 the same weekend the movie premiered, so I had to wait (in hospital) ten days to see it. It was my first outing after I was released from hospital, one of the many reasons it's personally special to me. "Always in groups of three...." that shot was recycled from ST:The Motion Picture, to save money.
@nisto1518
23 күн бұрын
The thing I love most with this movie is the idea that Dr. Marcus is akin to Oppenheimer with her creation of something so profound - the biggest difference being the Genesis device is meant to create something as opposed to the atomic weapon being commandeered and used for destruction. This movie highlights the evolved sensibilities of people during the 23rd century and is why I love Star Trek so much. It oozes hope.
@revans18
Ай бұрын
the mood on the set for 'The Motion Picture' was dour and people did not have fun. It was widely reported that Nimoy wanted out of the series because of that. This set was fun and people reported that it said it felt like being back on the show. After the release several articles reported that late in filming Shatner asked Nimor why he wanted to leave when it was so fun and Nimor reportedly replied that maybe he'd come back. It was at this point that the producer (Harve Bennet) conjured up the 'mind meld and remember' bit to leave the door open a crack.
@FosterTravis1071
Ай бұрын
Nimoy was pissed, and walked out on Star Trek at the series as it was canceled. It took a lot of talking to get him back to the Motion Picture, it took until 1983 for him to accept the character again.
@chriscma1
Ай бұрын
I've heard at the cast party, Nimoy got up and said how much fun he had making the film and was looking forward to the next one. Harve Bennett has said he almost had a stroke at that comment.
@thesharpercoder
Ай бұрын
That near ship collision gave me goose bumps the first time I watched this movie. This is arguable the best film in the series.
@warlock415
27 күн бұрын
I was a year old, so I can't testify to this on record, but I'm told that when my parents went to see this in the theater, very close to a military base, during the funeral scene people began to stand to attention, in twos and threes, and then in a wave, until everyone was on their feet; and when Takei called for honors, "every right arm in the place came up in salute and held it" as the coffin proceeded down the launch tube, as Amazing Grace played....
@benjaminjones9981
26 күн бұрын
Don't worry about the outro. I'm 47 yrs old & probably seen Spock's death scene 50+ times... and it STILL messes me up & gets me teary-eyed every single time.
@Otokichi786
Ай бұрын
"Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan": Ricardo Montalban, between seasons of "Fantasy Island," created one of "Star Trek's" most memorable villains. Kirstie Alley's first major movie role. The unimpressed "Star Trek the motionless picture" audience found "The Kobayashi Maru" aspect far more interesting. So many firsts in this "Star Trek' reboot."
@treetopjones737
Ай бұрын
Kirstie was in the scientology cult and loved Trump. Sad what she became at the end.
@Faroutamazingadventures
Ай бұрын
I was told by my mom and dad when they saw this movie when it first came out , that people were in tears leaving the theater when they knew Spock died!
@SG-js2qn
Ай бұрын
I would say YES, definitely wrap up the "old generation" before moving to the "next generation."
@SentinelGiga
Ай бұрын
As a young kid, I was very much obsessed with Star Wars, and Star Trek wasn't really on my radar. The odd rerun would get shown on TV but I just couldn't get into it, I wanted film, not television. My dad took me to see The Motion Picture just because it was a space movie and apparently I was entranced but was too young to really understand or remember much of it. But fast forward a few years and my dad's in California and we fly over to see him on a long ass flight. And one of the films on the plane was The Wrath of Khan. With nothing else to do I watched it and adored it, and it was also probably the first time I truly understood the gravity of death, and it hit me like a truck. First death of any kind to make me cry, and even all these years later, that final 10 minutes gets me every time. Spock's sacrifice is just a beautiful, loving moment, though he would of course maintain it was simply the logical thing to do. As the years went on, my love for the film only grew. Its themes resonate much stronger now, feeling old and worn out at times myself, Kirk is all too relatable in it. It's just a wonderful bit of filmmaking, one I can watch endlessly. Anyway, glad you enjoyed it Courtney.
@Serai3
Ай бұрын
David: You've never faced death. Kirk: Not like this. Sam Kirk: Gee, thanks a LOT, Jimmy! For gods's sakes, _he saw his brother's corpse._ 😂 I saw this in the theater. The cheer that went up when Kirk whipped out his communicator and said, "It's two hours, are you ready?" Oh man, it was MASSIVE. And yes, those bagpipes. I didn't cry when Spock died, but when Scotty started up that hymn, I just fell apart. What a great movie.
@michaelhall2709
29 күн бұрын
Not to mention **literally causing the death of the great love of his life**. But then, Nicholas Meyer knew very little about Trek, or its history. That happens to be this film’s greatest strength, and its greatest weakness.
@reidmason2551
15 күн бұрын
The way some have interpreted it is that Kirk's never faced death because he's never wanted to cope with it. He's tried to ignore it and push on. This movie takes away any excuse Kirk might have to go on living in denial.
@dwmadroxxide5090
Ай бұрын
This is when we get the classic uniforms that youll be seeing a lot of on your trek journey
@jeffgay4290
Ай бұрын
When I watched it in theaters when it first came out, I was thrilled at the storyline and the action, drama, and suspense. But I remember being stunned when I left...how could they kill off Spock?! I have watched this many times since then and a few times in theatres. But over time, I tear up as soon as Kirk looks over and see's Spock's empty chair. Then the look of dread on his face.
@RichardM1366
27 күн бұрын
The scene where the Enterprise orders the Reliant to drop it's Shields is hilarious! So much for Khan's superior intellect.
@sydhamelin1265
6 күн бұрын
Shatner definitely has some over the top acting moments, but I always think an actor is defined by how they are at their best, and at his best, he's great. I've also heard that people find it sadder to see someone fighting back tears, than to be crying, and Shatner, I think, shows that during the funeral speech.
@HawkGTboy
29 күн бұрын
That ending hits hard doesn’t it? I tear up a little every time. Audiences in theaters were sobbing. Back in ‘82 Star Trek was as big a deal in the pop culture. Interestingly, news of Spock dying leaked before the movie was released. So they added the Kobayashi Maru bit (with Spock “dying”) at the beginning to throw the audience off.
@ajgoodwinaviation
Ай бұрын
Before Spock died, he was blind, so he couldn't see.
@treetopjones737
Ай бұрын
Why he bumps into the glass.
@MI-hz1cp
29 күн бұрын
When I first saw this in the movie theater. Every. One went in excited and everyone came out sobbing and crying.😢 It was as if we had lost a member of our family.
@MrGadfly772
Ай бұрын
Thank you for the intelligent reaction. A lot of reactors just get so confused, but you catch every beat. You did far better at holding in your tears than I ever have, including now. I am 64 and have seen this movie multiple times but Spock's death scene and the funeral always makes me cry.
@scgreek1114
Ай бұрын
If only you could have been in the theatre when this film was first released. Life-long adult trekkies all bawling at the same time. Great acting by Ricardo Montalban.
@BammerD
Ай бұрын
I was not even a year old when this movie came out. Mom and dad went to see it and said that everybody in the theater was crying when Spock died. I was fortunate enough to be able to see this in theaters twice when Fandango Events played it in theaters for it's 35th anniversary in 2017.
@TechyMantis
Ай бұрын
Bit of trivia for you Chekov wasn't actually in the episode space seed, which has led many questions as to how khan knew him. Some speculated that chekov was on the ship but wasn't seen. Also khan's wife/original actress was going to be in the film as she was up for it but unfortunately died before filming started, so they decided not to recast her role and make it part of khan's anger towards Kirk. Yes Savik is half Vulcan and half Romulan which was mentioned in a deleted scene. It also explains how Savik appeared to show emotions when asked to pilot the ship out of space dock. Also the actor who plays Captain Terrell also plays the police captain in The Terminator.
@chadsheldon6470
29 күн бұрын
What I've always loved about this movie are the emotions you feel after Spock and Kirk talk through the glass after Spock saves the Enterprise. For Spock, you feel bad, but you know he made his life mean something by giving his for everyone else's to save them. For Kirk, you feel extreme sadness, but also the feeling that you lost your best friend who also paid a debt that you'll never be able to repay to him. It's so gut-wrenching and so beautifully acted and directed. I'm glad you liked it, Court! As far as how to watch the movies, I would watch Star Trek IV (my favorite), Star Trek V, and Star Trek V1, and then start watching the Next Generation TV show. When you get done with the show, you'll get to see Star Trek: Generations which features Kirk in it. I'll enjoy watching you react to everything along this journey!
@ninjabearpress2574
27 күн бұрын
Throughout the movie Khan quoted Captain Ahab, as if that was a good example. I was stunned by the end of this movie, I sat through the end credits because I couldn't move but yeah, fan outrage got us ST-III. Movies two, three and four make an epic tale.
@moosiedoom1310
28 күн бұрын
I saw this in the theater when it came out and dozens of times since. I still cry at the end. So good.
@tigqc
Ай бұрын
If you freeze frame right before Chekov sees "Botany Bay" you'll notice the titles of the book inspirations for this film on the shelf, among them King Lear, Paradise Lost, and Moby Dick.
@dq405
Ай бұрын
I can see thematic connections with PARADISE LOST and MOBY DICK, but with KING LEAR? Really? I must be blind to them!
@josiahslack8720
Ай бұрын
Khan quotes Ahab as he's dying, so they're not being coy about the influences.
@tigqc
Ай бұрын
@@josiahslack8720 yes and in a previous scene as well.
@godzillalover2
29 күн бұрын
Ricardo Montalbán was an amazing actor in every film he was in.
@emilmlodnicki3835
Ай бұрын
Savik being half Romulan is something hidden in the movie production and is never mentioned on screen anywhere, so it's not canon. Vulcan are not emotionless, they just have extreme control over their emotions. But emotions run very deep in Vulcans. Savik being young, might not have quite mastered it, and it was her mentor and almost father figure that just died.
@LesterManley-s9n
28 күн бұрын
Leaving the theater with my little brother in 1982 he had tears in his eyes. He believed it was all real and I had to explain about movies and tv shows and how a script works. I hated pulling back the curtain but I felt I had to. I told him to just wait until the next movie to see how the death of Spock effects Kirk and the others....
@miamicool666
Ай бұрын
There is no shame in expressing your feelings. It is what defines us as human beings.
@izzonj
Ай бұрын
Speak for yourself, HU-MAN!
@miamicool666
Ай бұрын
@@izzonj Speak for yourself, I.A.!
@ViridisAmbrosia
19 күн бұрын
What i kinda love about this movie is Kirk is finally truly confronted with the loss of life - that the idealism he fights for costs people their lives. He wants scenarios in which it will be good for everyone, but that isn't always possible. It's like this Peter Pan quality he has. But Spock was able to recognize the no-win scenario (that unless someone chooses to sacrifice themselves everyone is going to die) and took responsibility for it. Because that's what Spock does. He also wants ideal outcomes - I'd even say Spock is an idealist himself - but he knows where the rubber hits the road. He looks out for Kirk's blind spots. This was kinda the worst way for Kirk to finally understand what the Kobiyashi Maru test was meant to teach - when the person he loves the most had to pick up the slack. Maybe it's kinda also a story about hubris. Kirk hangs out on the edge often, not too far from being lost to his own hubris. Khan has lost his way in part because of his hubris.
@leonardkirk3893
29 күн бұрын
There are two movies that have made me cry in the theater. This was one of them, when I was 15. The other was Snoopy Come Home, when I was 5.
@BedsitBob
28 күн бұрын
Saavik is sitting in the Captain's chair, as they're leaving spacedock, but Sulu is actually piloting the Enterprise, so why is it scary?
@raymondregis6219
29 күн бұрын
I felt the same. Also, the film was a success so it excited fans that their beloved show was still alive.
@xheralt
23 күн бұрын
One wry observation from Walter Koenig, the actor who played Chekov -- "Never let them know you can scream."
@guaposneeze
Ай бұрын
I happened to be talking to somebody about this film recently. A barista who always makes conversation by asking people about movies because he's incapable of paying attention to his work. He was annoying, and the coffee was bitter. But this was the film I told him about when he asked me. There's 50+ years of Star Trek trying various approaches to basically making exactly the same show and telling variations of the same story, and this was certainly one of the best attempts. It was when the franchise got some fresh eyes and a fresh coat of paint, and got really good modern-ish VFX and tense intense film making for the first time, but was still riffing on established stuff and not going too far from what worked about Trek. The actors were all "grown ups" who had years of experience on camera and were good at their craft. It strikes just the right balance of characters/story/cinematography/spectacle/scifi/tension/wonder/acting etc., without going too far into one part of it and missing some other important parts. Like, as much as we love the 60's TV show, it doesn't hold up un-ironically in the way TWOK does. And as fun as the recent films can be, the possibilities of modern VFX mean they tend to lean waaaay hard onto spectacle and action that TWOK already proved they didn't need.
@karlsmith2570
Ай бұрын
23:26 Hey, Courtney, the reason why Scotty was so upset about Preston's death was explained in the Director's Cut of this movie, where during the scene when Kirk first meets with the trainees and Preston introduced himself, Scotty informed Kirk that Preston was his nephew
@neneshubby
Ай бұрын
Don’t worry, a lot of us cried. This was shocking at the time. No internet, no social media, there were only rumors so they added the “death” scene in the beginning as a red herring.
@tofersiefken
Ай бұрын
This is my favorite of the Star Trek movies, and perhaps one of the best sci-fi movies of all time, (at least the villain is one of the best). The sad goodbye between Spock & Kirk still devastates me.
@christopherjaskowiak9073
27 күн бұрын
I have likely watched this movie, which is not only my favorite Trek film, but also my in Top 3 All Time, over a thousand times since first seeing it in the theater since 1982. Spock’s death, Kirk’s eulogy, and Scotty playing “Amazing Grace”… I get choked up and my eyes sting EVERY time.
@stopgeorge
Ай бұрын
That was a really wonderful reaction. Thank you. This film is very close to my heart. I saw it during it's original release and felt the same exact way -- except, I was a tad more emotional. People leaving the theater were absolutely stunned walking out of the theater. Everyone was speechless. As you say, it felt so surreal losing this beloved character. To get to experience this through you again is amazing. Thank you.
@gregdark5203
28 күн бұрын
I like your reaction to the film. I cried real tears when I saw this movie the week it came out in 1982. I'm 55 now and the ending still makes me tear up.
@lazyperfectionist1
Ай бұрын
16:37 "We are free. We have a ship and the means to go where we will." In order words, how far ahead is Khan willing to look? This band of augments that he commands has the means to travel to any one of a _number_ of habitable planets and start the _empire_ he has always wanted; the means to carry out plans that have had to spend the last fifteen years on hold, because of circumstances beyond Khan's control. Now, suddenly, they have that opportunity. They could settle this planet, they could start building this empire, and they have the technology of the _Reliant_ at their disposal which means, with a little thrift, their empire could start to reach out across _star_ systems, and in time, could go on to be a rival to the _Federation._ So the key question is how great is Khan's appetite for revenge?
@ajgoodwinaviation
Ай бұрын
This movie also has a Director's Cut, which includes additional scenes. The version you're watching is the theatrical one. You ought to watch the Director's Cut sometime. 🙂🖖
@Skyking67832
27 күн бұрын
I am and have been a Star Trek fan since I was 10. I first saw it on TV in 1966 (it came out only 3 days before my birthday, so I almost felt as if it was a Birthday gift just for me. A lot of people do not know that the end scene in the engine room was actually based on a Robert A. Heinlein short story called "The Long Watch" first published in 1949. That makes at least twice that Heinlein influenced a Star Trek story. The first time was the episode "The Trouble with Tribbles." It was inspired by a novel written in the 1950s called "The Rolling Stones." In it, the protagonists come across a lifeform they call flat cats that proceed to over-populate their ship. Of course, both stories owe a debt to Ellis Parker Butler and his humorous short story, "Pigs is Pigs," published in 1906.🙂🙃
@raybarry4307
26 күн бұрын
That engineer that died was Scotty's nephew. They told you that in the theater version and the book but cut it from the DVD version.
@socalpaul487
Ай бұрын
I saw this the night it was released, in Hollywood, CA. Engineer's Mate, Peter Preston, was Scotty's nephew. The word is given. Leonard Nimoy went through several times where he no longer wanted to portray Spock. He only agreed to do this movie if Spock died.
@scottjo63
Ай бұрын
Well, you said for ST: TMP poor Chekov when he got burned, now he has a bug in his ear. No break for him yet.
@bryanmacklem2654
25 күн бұрын
Don't forget about The Voyage Home where he gets a nasty knock on the head. 🤷
@shallowgal462
Ай бұрын
Always sad when Scotty's nephew dies. I love the half-Romulan fire Kirstie Alley brings to the half-Vulcan Saavik! They weren't counting down to zero. They were counting the four minutes they had to escape.
@Stephanie-likes-StarTrek
Ай бұрын
Your reaction to this movie is very much like mine the first time I saw this film as a young girl when it came out. It really messed me up emotionally too. And I didn't know there would be any more films after this when it was released. So, I was one sad little girl at the end of this movie. But I still loved this film back then and still to this day. I think this is a lovely & very heartfelt review.
@JerryDurante
26 күн бұрын
Na girl we get it. I was a junior in high school when this came out. Me and a bunch of friends saw it after school. We where all stunned for days after seeing this.
@blacktronlego
18 күн бұрын
This refers back to the TOS episode 'Space Seed' which was in season 1 before Chekov appeared, but we ignore that. This film along with III an IV form a continuous story.
@raybernal6829
Ай бұрын
Repeating what others have said a group of friends and I all ST fans went opening weekend to see it. As we left the theater not a word was said. The emotion we felt was beyond anything we likely had ever felt watching a movie. Still the same watching it today after hundreds of viewing. 😢💔
@harrybroos5691
Ай бұрын
I watched this when I was 13 years old and I cried myself to sleep, and tears fall every time since lol
@treetopjones737
Ай бұрын
Yes, when it came out, people were shocked at Spock, the most popular character of TOS Trek, dying. Of course we had no idea what the next film would be, but the final scene hinted... and when ST 3 came out with the title "The Search For Spock", we had hope.
@ChrissonatorOFL
Ай бұрын
In fact, the animation for the Genesis effect was the first fully rendered 3D animation of that scale ever.
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