I always liked this little scene. There isn't much chance in ST to show the kind of genuine ship-handling that real navies have to do all the time. If they had made the smallest mistake, Khelar's pod would have been crushed like an egg. It shows professionalism, technical skill, and teamwork, and the music score added suspense to what could have been merely a throwaway scene.
@Mike1064ab
Жыл бұрын
Yah it looks cool. On a ship that sophisticated with such a complex maneuver it’s likely the computer did most of the work.
@Ken-fh4jc
Жыл бұрын
I saw this when it aired. It was so out of the norm it really lended a lot of gravity and importance.
@MM22966
Жыл бұрын
@@Ken-fh4jc Good point; usually it is just a swoosh with the transporter when the bring a new face aboard.
@ravinraven6913
Жыл бұрын
uh....Something tells me you don't understand computers....or at least not ones from the 2300's
@DrewSavo
Жыл бұрын
Who left the window open when travelling at warp? I can hear the wind noise buffeting.
@GraemeGunn
Жыл бұрын
If you're joking, that's a really bad joke. you're not serious, are you? That's the "engine noise" on the show, it's like in every scene on the ship
@Stefan_Van_pellicom
Жыл бұрын
@@GraemeGunnBut here it seems to be amplified. Pretty annoying with a good in-ear headset.
@davetodd6163
Жыл бұрын
Tyre noise?
@LeePresson
Жыл бұрын
There's definitely a rumble. The Enterprise needs a new muffler.
@JKiler1
Жыл бұрын
@@GraemeGunnit's not. Heard the same on a separate video, still there when the ship dropped from warp.
@ZantherStone
Жыл бұрын
Anyone else listen to this clip with headphones on. The background engine noise is loud! Maybe b/c they're supposed to be going high speed
@ezdeezytube
Жыл бұрын
Was the ship ambient noise always this loud? This is the first time Ive felt the bass in my skull
@ZantherStone
Жыл бұрын
@@ezdeezytube No, I think either this video was specifically modified or uploaded in a way that makes it louder. (Or they had it loud for this episode to show the ship was going fast - I don't have headphones with me now to listen if it's loud the entire time or just in warp).
@douglasworley-lr9dr
Жыл бұрын
The thundering sound...like the interstellar....oh never mind.
@douglasworley-lr9dr
Жыл бұрын
Me Too!!!!!😮😮😮
@JohnYwn-c4c
Жыл бұрын
Yes but i listened to it in my van and the base was amazing felt Luke been on the ship😊
@raymondgradzewicz
Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect video to watch while having a pounding headache.
@anone1243r
Жыл бұрын
are you me?
@albert_kempowillenborg1707
Жыл бұрын
Sugar honey iced tea
@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers
Жыл бұрын
Seriously - wtf did they do to the sound?
@DavidSmith-oy4of
Жыл бұрын
I actually use this sound through earphone to cover my neighbours banging so I can sleep. I just imagine on the Enterprise about to die or be interfered with at any given moment.
@sjeunson1
Жыл бұрын
I think someone added the noise to try and fool the great KZitem Gods. As it doesn’t seem to affect the dialog.
@sonicguyver7445
Жыл бұрын
Riker: A Class 8 probe? That's only about two meeters long! Picard: That's no bigger than a womp rat!
@kev3d
Жыл бұрын
Impossible, even for a computer.
@snakespolitics
Жыл бұрын
@@kev3d Not impossible. Deanna used to bullseye womp rats back on Betazed.
@hamfan4449
Жыл бұрын
he said "this is true, but if the transmitters and sensors and life support system installed there would be enough room for 1 person" get your quote right hater
@illitero
Жыл бұрын
Womp rats!? Those motherfukkers are gonna destroy all his lilies!
@thegrimmretails3777
Жыл бұрын
@edeide2240 it's easy to bullseye a womprat when you crash a galaxy class ship's saucer section into it.
@gm17840
Жыл бұрын
Her entrance was just as magnificent as her exit!
@GraemeGunn
Жыл бұрын
Who's "her"?
@gm17840
Жыл бұрын
@@GraemeGunn Federation Emissary K'Ehleyr!
@kevinm.8682
Жыл бұрын
Military ships do this type of thing all the time for underway replenishment. it's called "Relative Motion". If both objects are moving at the exact same speed and course, relatively they are stationary. If you and a friend are walking down the street going the exact same direction at the exact same speed, You can hand objects back and forth without problem. Same principle here.
@МихаилРозов-ю9п
Жыл бұрын
And this is the cause of a bunch of accidents cos most of these assholes don't think about an application of Bernoulli's Law in ships navigation.
@stargazer7644
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the obvious and completely missing the point. Your analogy is just great except for the tiny fact that you don't bring one ship inside the other with both propulsion systems running flat out. And it would be even more spectacular if those propulsion systems operated by warping the fabric of spacetime itself around them.
@Spacemanspiff808
Жыл бұрын
@stargazer7644 Not that they didn’t disregard the need again and again later on in the universe, but using the tractor beam before transportation presumably obviates the need for the probe to remain under its own power. First season they were still feeling enthralled with physics and technology rather then encumbered by it.
@Neo-vz8nh
Жыл бұрын
@@stargazer7644 the probe was glideing only maintaining the warp field. No engine just a field maintainer. The probe and the Enterprise come to same reference, they just simply moved the probe in the warp bubble.
@stargazer7644
Жыл бұрын
@@Neo-vz8nh You can't "coast" halfway across the galaxy at warp 9. You can't do warp 9 at all without a warp drive. Creating the warp field is what a warp drive does.
@Howlrunner82
Жыл бұрын
Trek really needed more of these "ship to ship (or probe)" interactions
@fruitofthelum5815
Жыл бұрын
It was a fantastic moment when they finally decided on an admiral's uniform
@Serin9X
Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that. Starfleet's admiralty really worked their wardrobe designers to death. They were just never happy. Thank god for the Dominion war when everyone just started wearing sweaters over the entire uniform and the admirals could finally have an outfit for more than a month.
@Brian6587
Жыл бұрын
Love the score in this scene and in first three seasons! Ron Jones is awesome!
@RenneDanjoule
Жыл бұрын
I couldnt hear half of it, with all that bass.
@fourthhorseman4531
Жыл бұрын
@@RenneDanjoule Seriously, I think my subwoofer was knocking things off shelves three houses away. LOL!
@laff000
Жыл бұрын
That's strange because if there was one thing that I always hated about the next generation is the music.
@tech83studio38
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@leif1075
Жыл бұрын
@@laff000why if I may ask?
@StrangeChickandPuppo
Жыл бұрын
Can we get Seven of Nine to have a head-to-head match of Parrises Squares with the hellooooo-helmsman at 00:12
@ogmakefirefiregood
Жыл бұрын
The best Scify show of the 90's.
@gavxps1
Жыл бұрын
That bird is stacked
@sarcasticguy4311
Жыл бұрын
Haha underrated comment.
@gavxps1
Жыл бұрын
@@sarcasticguy4311 Thank you. lol
@tomdumb6937
Жыл бұрын
Funny if it materialized and then took off through the bulkhead at warp 9!
@DavidSmith-oy4of
Жыл бұрын
That was on the blooper reel I believe.
@Neo-vz8nh
Жыл бұрын
Frame of reference. They go at the same speed, so the probe is at rest to the Enterprise.
@Pedgo1986
11 ай бұрын
@@Neo-vz8nhalso speed dosent matter during transportation original object is disintegrated to matter stream and the reconstituted so technically it is not same object or person and will not carry any movement.
@chrisblackburn3354
2 ай бұрын
This whole scene was a plot hole/blooper scene.. 1) The probe barely has no visible warp engines/nacelles and barely room for a human, yet it's supposed to have room for a warp core so that it can travel at warp 9️⃣!! 2) And then, regardless of the transporter de/re-materialization process, it's engines/propulsion system was engaged upon transport. I guess we'll just assume they just disengaged the engines during transport 🙄🙄🙄. If not, then upon rematerialization, it should have started making its way through the ship lol. If they did disengage the engines during transport, then it would make more sense to disengage the engines & come to a complete stop before transporting.
@Lanceb131
Жыл бұрын
I think they stopped just short of a great moment & line!😢
@glennsmith3303
Жыл бұрын
never realized the good looking gal next to Data. Was this like a pilot thing where they wanted to see if a hot gal would make the show better? Or was I clueless all these years and never noticed an unknown gal next to Data?
@DirkLachowski
Жыл бұрын
That’s Anne Ramsey as ensign Clancy. Only two episodes with her.
@TerryAllenSwartos
Жыл бұрын
That position was taken by many “bit player” actors through the seasons, usually for just a couple of episodes. Some found more fame later, others left acting. And yeah, a lot of them were pretty appealing.
@bojangles2492
Жыл бұрын
They certainly had to make a uniform with a special cut for her.
@seanmcdonough4902
Жыл бұрын
The helmswoman later commaned a SHIELD HEICARRIER IN THE 21st CENTURY...(fills both uniforms nicely too )
@sdrc92126
Жыл бұрын
Two weeks at warp 8 is 20 light years. There are ~113stars within 20 light years of Earth.
@kinbolluck476
Жыл бұрын
How come they dont collect starlight and store it in a big ball
@heliosgnosis2744
Жыл бұрын
@@kinbolluck476 More inefficient than the Nacelle's matter/anti matter fusion engine or the warp core's it self
@VRIceblast
Жыл бұрын
My God, The BASS!!! It was literally shaking my house and windows!!! and I didn't even have it up that loud. smh
@JaredLS10
Жыл бұрын
Some starships at the time couldn't travel at Warp 9 but a probe thats just over two meters long capable of carrying a passenger can? Even as a kid I thought that was dumb and completely unlikely.
@jturner7771
Жыл бұрын
Torpedoes can probably travel faster than a submarine.
@raideurng2508
Жыл бұрын
Probes (and torpedoes) don't use traditional warp engines, they use sustainer engines that allow them to hold a warp field and thus speed from a launching vessel. If that field is lost, they can't recreate it, nor can they change their speed other than dropping out of warp entirely. A much simplier technology that doesn't require something large and complex like a warp core.
@imofage3947
Жыл бұрын
Missiles travel faster than jet fighters. Mass matters. It's much easier to accelerate a smaller mass.
@scarletmoon777
Жыл бұрын
Probably got fired out of a ship already at Warp 9 or something I guess? its space so it wont slow down unless something makes it.
@TheMugrad2002
Жыл бұрын
@@user-jt5vm3mi1w Probes use a "Warp Sustainer" that can't generate a warp field, but keeps it from falling apart. That allows it to stay at warp for a long time with very little power draw. On Enterprise, the escape pods have no such "Warp Sustainer", so they will slow to sub-light speeds.
@victorjohnson7512
Жыл бұрын
When they open the probe on the transporter platform, I would have loved for Pee Wee Herman to pop up and shout "Tequila"! (RIP)...
@kadindarklord
Жыл бұрын
There's a booming in this video.
@DaveQZ85
Жыл бұрын
I thought that was the from the mic of the Ensign picking up her fingers tapping on the console surface.
@Scylon1
Жыл бұрын
Oh crap, the probe is still moving at warp 9!! *blows a hole through the ship*
@DavidAWA
Жыл бұрын
2:36 Why, that's not much bigger than a womprat
@montecorbit8280
3 ай бұрын
I don't remember the actress's name that was the emissary, but I remember she also played the red-headed female Q on Star Trek Voyager. Also remember that she is deceased....I don't remember what from.
@Phantasmic42
20 күн бұрын
her name is Suzie Plakson and she's still very much alive
@tech83studio38
Жыл бұрын
Love that score, wondrous and daring crescendo it perfectly captures this scene . A 2 m class 8 probe at warp 9 the 600m Enterprise pacing it thats like riding alongside a bullet .
@BassManStrikes
Жыл бұрын
Looks like the tic tac UFOs 🤣🤣
@TerryAllenSwartos
Жыл бұрын
Dammit, Data! Just roll up the windows and turn on the AC!
@franklsuarez
2 ай бұрын
"So, am I flying Business Class?" "No." "So, Coach?" "Probe class."
@grandfathergeek
Жыл бұрын
I’m going to accept that this can happen because the probe resembles very much a torpedo and is it possible that this level class of probe is just a modified photon torpedo that is capable of warp nine? Anyway, I’m going to allow it.
@SoranoGuardias
Жыл бұрын
In canon, all you need is a ship capable of travelling at Warp 9 that can fire the probe. The probe grabs on to a portion of the warp bubble and sustains it for travel.
@grandfathergeek
Жыл бұрын
@@SoranoGuardias since I’m terrible at science fiction math I’m gonna accept your explanation👍🏼
@Mskatz007
Жыл бұрын
😊
@TheOriginalWB
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to accept it cause its fantasy.
@Zandiv
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginalWB Clearly, you haven't seen Galaxy Ques.. shame on you!
@shauljonah6955
Жыл бұрын
Funny how the probe was traveling that fast but the person inside was on his or her side. 🤔 just funny I know in space orientation is what it is but funny 😁 from ground based opinion 😆. Gotta love it.
@Mark73
Жыл бұрын
Her. It was K'Ehleyr. Eventually to become Worf's baby mama.
@ensignmjs7058
Жыл бұрын
She was traveling on her back.
@sarcasticguy4311
Жыл бұрын
@@ensignmjs7058 And was later on her back for other reasons.
@ltmundy1164
Жыл бұрын
Ender Wiggins: the gate is down.
@jamesbizs
Жыл бұрын
Not sure what’s funny about that?
@drockjr
Жыл бұрын
A warp coffin. We all knew it was goofy.
@skyserf
Жыл бұрын
Vice Admiral Gromek could pass for Kai Winn.
@otobluearrow
Жыл бұрын
nice and slowly, love it.
@3chords490
Жыл бұрын
Amazon Prime were fast even back then
@eddzyeddzy6158
Жыл бұрын
in the early 2200s there was a common issue with packages slamming through customer's front door and ruining their houses. Then Amazon made improvements to its interplanetary delivery pods.
@robwebnoid5763
Жыл бұрын
And here we are today with Navy air pilots chasing UAP's that also look like pills.
@BalazsSzucs333
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mysteryvoid570
Жыл бұрын
Lay in course and wow!
@theobserver9849
Жыл бұрын
Nothing can beat the magic and mystery of Star Trek TNG ❤
@nikushim6665
Жыл бұрын
If by magic and mystery you mean just making @*$& up as you go along and giving zero explanation for it, then sure........ Alot of the "magic" behind the original series was simply stuff that was cheap/easy to produce and it carried over to TNG.
@jamesbeedcee9782
Жыл бұрын
In "The Best of Both Worlds" Chief O'Brien had to do something interesting to Transport at Warp. So, when this Probe materialised, did it fly through the wall?
@TheOriginalWB
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes they tell us a weapon is disarmed or a probe deactivated or a pathogen rendered inert. I just assume its the same for this or whatever is in the script to bolster the story.
@HariSeldon913
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginalWB They still should have said it and it would only have taken a couple of seconds. "Disabling propulsion" is all that was needed.
@jamesbizs
Жыл бұрын
@@HariSeldon913there is no propulsion? Warp speed is sustained in a warp field/bubble. Once transported , there is no warp field. Just as a ship can come out of warp 9, and stop on a dime instantly. Once out of warp; there is no speed of any kind
@katynewt
Жыл бұрын
Interesting how Starfleet can beam a probe travelling at high warp and without any interference from the tractor beam, and yet can't beam an away team out when there's a bit of dust in the air... 😒
@geomodelrailroader
Жыл бұрын
That is one way to bring a cryopod aboard now they need to open it quick and revive K'Ehleyr before she runs out of air.
@Tezunegari
Жыл бұрын
The impressive part is that this IS NOT a cryopod. K'Ehleyr was awake while traveling in a coffin-sized shuttle with no control over it. Modern Hollywood needs to remember this style of story telling where you SHOW how a character is instead of telling the audience (and then have the character act the opposite way)
@philstone3859
5 ай бұрын
Donuts! We need donuts! Starfleet, why doesn’t the envoy have donuts?!
@barriewright2857
Жыл бұрын
Love that will start the next generation series on Netflix.
@randomrazr
Ай бұрын
1:25 back when they couldnt quite decide on admiral uniform
@gerardoosores7470
Жыл бұрын
Que le costaba a la almirante decirle todo en la oficina del capitán!!! Jajajaja!
@the1tigglet
Жыл бұрын
After this prompted the production of a Class 9 probe design that carried a life support system, a warp drive and impulse drive, a computer, weapons, and a computer it's what B'elana used to create the Dreadnaught probe which was designed to take out Cardassian targets. It was heavily modified so it was likely made larger than a normal class 9 probe.
@MostlyPennyCat
Жыл бұрын
Class 10 came with a holodeck, ten forward, berthing for a 1,000, 2 shuttle bays and shuttles, photon torpedoes, medical facilities, cargo bays.....
@Zandiv
Жыл бұрын
What? No inertial dampeners? Hate to squeeze the paste out of that particular probe sized tube...
@MostlyPennyCat
Жыл бұрын
Padding on the walls
@RobMaciak
Жыл бұрын
@@MostlyPennyCatBAHAHAHA NICE!!!!!
@Zandiv
Жыл бұрын
@@MostlyPennyCat lol, of course! My bad : )
@mitche5007
Жыл бұрын
The probe was filled with pizza😊
@samslara
Жыл бұрын
Who knew it was so windy in space...
@molybdaen11
Жыл бұрын
Thatsvsome miniaturization. If the person is small, Letz say 1,60m, then we have only around 40cm^3 left for life support, computer, sensors and the engine (which apparently is faster then most starship). Even for star trek tech that's a bit off the charts
@Lonewanderer30
Жыл бұрын
0:06 Nice!
@varianschirmer9375
Жыл бұрын
2 Mad About You actresses appeared in this episode. 1 is at the helm. The other is Worf's ex... her billing was on-screen in this clip.
@lebojay
Жыл бұрын
Anne Ramsay and Susie Plakson
@andyf4292
11 ай бұрын
that calling women 'sir' bit ... really grates
@jimtalor7971
Жыл бұрын
Its....its......Mrs Q!!
@HeavyHaulagePilbara
11 ай бұрын
How come no one is commenting about 2 fields interconnecting. Or teleporting a active warp field into a ship?
@richardoakley8800
Жыл бұрын
So what if you need to pee?
@EVILGOKU1986
Жыл бұрын
God damn! Don't watch this with headphones on, the warp engines are so loud the bass alone is like a concert.
@nicholashuff4198
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the probe still be travelling at warp after transporting it aboard?
@Zodroo_Tint
11 ай бұрын
That would be fun.
@DominickGiammarinoAZ
Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the noise is meant to distort the copyright creepers
@kargaroc386
Жыл бұрын
how are they able to fit a warp 9 engine in a photon torpedo casing but not a shuttlecraft
@ZantherStone
Жыл бұрын
Is that Ensign Gomez that shows up in Lower Decks recently? Her face is slightly familiar, like a recurring extra
@brianinthepark5429
Жыл бұрын
Who is the helmsman? She was rocking eye candy. ~Brian
@pms9838
Жыл бұрын
A tractor beam at warp 9? Are you crazy!
@MrTaojonz
Жыл бұрын
Only combine Talent of La Forge and O'Brian can accomplished that 😅
@bassbustingman
Жыл бұрын
so when they slow down is the probe still going warp 9?
@chrisblackburn3354
2 ай бұрын
So you're telling me that tiny probe has a warp core & engines that allow it to travel at warp 9️⃣!! 🤨🤨
@cgon9383
Ай бұрын
Sounds like the person who posted this video had a fan on.
@guidosalescalvano9862
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the tidal forces of the warp field of the probe rip the enterprise apart when they beamed it aboard?
@MiningForPies
Жыл бұрын
No. The warp field would have collapsed the moment the probe was transported.
@guidosalescalvano9862
Жыл бұрын
@@MiningForPies Would it though? Not without the transporter reconfiguring the probe on rematerialisation right? Assuming Alcubierre and Harold White's theories are applied in star trek a warp field is created through positive and negative energy creating expansion of space behind the craft and reduction of space in front of it. So whatever systems were producing this field in the probe would have to stop operating immediately after transport.
@MiningForPies
Жыл бұрын
@@guidosalescalvano9862 the probe didn’t have warp engines and wasn’t able to create its own field. It was sent out at warp. Once the field generated by sending (not explained) was collapsed the probe has no way of re creating it.
@guidosalescalvano9862
Жыл бұрын
@@MiningForPies Essentially like a gravitational wave?
@Iohannis42
Жыл бұрын
No.
@RighteousPursuitMinistries
Жыл бұрын
Coordinates 423? 360 is the top number for coordinates, because 360 degrees makes a full circle.
@kohliabhi
Жыл бұрын
Laugh at it once then read 1) It is a fiction, these kind of fancy terms sound good. 2) 360 is maximum degree, not coordinates. You need something more than just the angle to locate a precise position, with just the angle max you can get vector to the position. 3) Even for vector, 360 will give only in 2-D, in 3D you need 2 angles (eg azimuth and elevation, both can be 360,360)
@CommentorX
Жыл бұрын
Who was that helmswoman with the huge knockers? She got my Class 8 wanting to probe. Shield are up, if you know what I mean.
@johnwang9914
11 ай бұрын
I think the probe should've been longer than two metres as it also had to hold the warp drive unit, navigation and life support plus our own type 48 torpedoes are about 3.8 metres long. The type 93 torpedo from WWII was 9 metres long. Our communication satellites can be as large as 7 metres across with solar panels extending 50 metres so even a ten metres long probe would be more reasonable than a two metre long probe especially given that it was transporting a person as payload.
@Pedgo1986
11 ай бұрын
They dont have navigation nor warp drive, like saucer section they only have warp field sustainer to keep warp field going for limited time so speed and course is provided by ship launching probe. Nevertheless whole operation make no sense they are in federation space traveling from star base not smuggling someone from enemy territory so they could use normal ship.
@johnwang9914
11 ай бұрын
@@Pedgo1986 Without FTL, what are the chances of an escape pod or the saucer section actually reaching a safe destination like a planet or a moon yet TOS, TNG, Voyager, Deep Space Nine and Enterprise all show survivors reaching such harbour and only Enterprise ever showed survivors stranded in space though one TOS episode showed the Galileo stranded in a temporary planetary orbit after using phaser power to fuel it's presumably sublight drive. I'm suggesting these inconsistencies might be solved if the warp bubble was actually just due to the warp plasma being present and circulated in resonate chambers such as nacelles to sustain a warp field and it was only the matter antimatter reactor with the dilithium regulation that would be required to produce the warp plasma. We know from several episodes that warp plasma can be stored and even transported so this could be similar to fireless steam locomotives where the steam is simply stored in an insulated container with the steam generated by a stationary boiler facility. Fireless steam locomotives were used to move cars around in a rail yard. This would also explain how low warp was achieved before dilithium was found as Earth presumably has no dilithium reserves, the warp plasma could've been made at stationary power plants which would be much larger to either regulate the power of matter antimatter reactions without the use of dilithium or generate enough power from other sources. It would also explain how we saw a shuttle craft chasing the Enterprise at warp in TOS, the shuttle craft shown on Star Trek The Motion Picture was said explicitly to be a warp shuttle craft and was shown separating from it's nacelles but the one that Kirk used to chase Spock in TOS Menagerie was just a stock shuttle craft or at least it was never said or shown to be any different from a stock shuttlecraft. Also, they have shown shuttle crafts searching a Star's planetary system for survivors several times in TOS which would take decades without FTL. Also, it's said that once moving at warp, the saucer section would remain in warp if separated during warp speed so though it may not be able to propel itself at warp, it can sustain the warp bubble. Also our own investigations into the Alcubierre drive separates the warp bubble from the actual propulsion and presumes that some alternate form of conventional propulsion is first needed before the warp bubble is created or some method of propelling the warp bubble after being created which would be problematic as the interior of the bubble is basically a separate pocket of space unable to interact with what's outside the bubble. The White May Alcubierre drive experiment by NASA assumes the warp bubble can be created and shaped by circulating specific exotic matter in a torus. Not requiring the full matter antimatter reactor with dilithium just to maintain warp would address the inconsistencies shown in the TV episodes and the lore problem of warp being discovered on Earth while dilithium has been shown to be mined on other planets but never described as being found or synthesized on Earth. It could also provide limited warp after the burn destroying most dilithium in Discovery. Keep in mind that photon torpedoes and probes do not have matter antimatter reactors or nacelles yet still travel at warp speeds, the probe in TNG was even said to be capable of a specific high warp. Also, the only shuttle crafts that have been explicitly said and shown to have a matter antimatter reactor with dilithium power regulation has been the run about shown in Deep Space Nine and once on TNG and the reactor is shown to be externally mounted on top of the spacecraft.
@Pedgo1986
11 ай бұрын
@@johnwang9914 All i can say to you is download a read official technical guide. I did not created lore and however it is illogical it was creates that way and bended over and over for plot sake like i think saucer section already contain small warp core it just need nacelle even inferior one like freighter for low warp speed, Voyager have two warp cores in schematics one as spare yet they go again and again on suicide mission to save used core and that nose of Defiant is big torpedo :D Nevertheless no matter how entertaining is debating this ultimately it is irrelevant its fictional technology in fictional world we don't have real basis to compare or whatever so we are creating our own fiction to fill gaps in fiction. Also you must compromise between realism and plot going too deep become only confusing for audience. Mi biggest grip story wise is Federation allowing settling planets in DMZ and then everyone is surprised it create friction and problems.
@johnwang9914
11 ай бұрын
@@Pedgo1986 Sigh the "official technical guide" does not change the fact that a sublight escape pod or shuttle would never reach safe harbour on a distant planet or moon within the lifetime of a human never mind within rations and life support from stored oxygen, scrubbing chemicals and water. Also, the "official technical manual" does not explain how warp drive was developed when dilithium crystals are not found on Earth but mined from distant star systems, presumably with a higher metallic star such as the next generation from our own. I'm just saying they could explain these inconsistencies by saying the warp bubble only needed resonating warp plasma to generate and indeed the "official technical manual" for TNG describes the nacelles as resonating chambers, the TNG, Voyager and Enterprise episodes show warp plasma being stored and transported, our Alcubierre drive theories involve just having exotic materials circulate to produce the warp bubble (the energy costs are in achieving such exotic materials) and we have a precedent in fireless steam locomotives. As to dilithoum crystals, the TOS episodes and their "official" technical manual also state that dilithium crystals are just to regulate the immense energies of matter antimatter reactions. My postulations takes all the "official technical manuals" into account and is simply how the "lore" could be extended to explain the inconsistencies. Keep in mind that the "technical manuals" and much of the lore are created retroactively often by writers other than the ones introducing the inconsistencies and sometimes before yet other writers inadvertently introduce other inconsistencies. I'm not saying that my postulates would be followed by future writers or was what was intended by previous writers, I'm just saying this is a way it could fit together with what we've seen on screen so far. The fact that you just want to ignore the inconsistencies just show how little you want to consider the inconsistencies that have already arrived and is more a comment on you and your comprehension or lack thereof of current science. Yes, in fiction, you sometimes have to just hand wave the inconsistencies aside, I'm just saying that many (almost all in Star Trek) do not have to just be ignored as inconsolable.
@clintmcwilliams2017
Жыл бұрын
Warp 9 without a warp core 😂 love it
@michaelhorne8366
Жыл бұрын
Photon torpedoes (and probe classes that use their design as a base like the 8, amongst others) use a warp sustainer engine. The torpedo itself is not capable of generating warp thrust but can sustain a field, meaning that when they are launched, they maintain the warp velocity of the vessel which launched them.
@scotmcpherson
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelhorne8366 nerd
@tdb922f
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelhorne8366or the starbase that launched them as in this case?
@sarcasticguy4311
Жыл бұрын
They had a really big rubber band and slingshot.
@Bialy_1
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelhorne8366 Do no make more sense at all...😂
@Zandiv
Жыл бұрын
What? No inertial dampeners? Hate to squeeze the paste out of that particular probe sized tube...
@Dakahrii
Жыл бұрын
Why did they have to use the tractor beam when they couldve just beamed her out directly?
@TommygunNG
Жыл бұрын
Like traveling in your own coffin.
@spazda_mx5
Жыл бұрын
👉👉👉Season 2, Episode 20 👈👈👈
@captainLoknar
Жыл бұрын
I don't have a probe of any class but I know that conn officer has at least class 8 I'd like to probe
@stargazer7644
Жыл бұрын
You're right about one thing. You have no class.
@chrisblackburn3354
2 ай бұрын
I sure hope they remembered to disengage the probe's warp engines before beaming it aboard. 😬😬😬
@dmale79
Жыл бұрын
Knowing what their mission was, I don't understand why it's so secretive
@katherinkeegan8601
Жыл бұрын
Time was of the essence. The longer the old Klingon ship traveled assuming they were still in the past, the higher the risk of an incident. If someone else knew about it, the odds of setting off a chain reaction of misunderstandings drastically went up. Such misunderstandings could cause intergalactic diplomatic nightmares for years depending on who was involved.
@dmale79
Жыл бұрын
@@katherinkeegan8601 wow! Very well put! Thank you! Ive never met a girl Trekkie before. Tbh I thought they only existed in the imagination of lonely men lol
@katherinkeegan8601
Жыл бұрын
@@dmale79 I am an original Trekkie. 🙂 I was just entering school when we landed on the moon. My family and I watched the show and the first reruns helping to keep the show alive. I watched the original showing of the animated series. I went to my first convention in 1984. I don't know how rare we are, but if you want to find us I suggest going to a convention near you.😉
@sarcasticguy4311
Жыл бұрын
Launch a Class 8 Probe. Also, load all the garbage on it. We haven't been to Space Dock in a month.
@mumu-ib5vk
Жыл бұрын
background sound is heavy 👍
@kmo9111
Жыл бұрын
wait installing windows 95 usb B support.
@chrisblackburn3354
2 ай бұрын
If the Enterprise was already alongside the probe and matched course & speed, them WHY engage tracor beam just to beam it aboard??? 🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔🤔
@scotthayes4135
Жыл бұрын
The Class 8 Probe looks like a coffin.
@tepan
Жыл бұрын
Glad the probe didn't continue to warp through the transporter room.
@varianschirmer9375
Ай бұрын
The probe has no propulsion system. It has a system to "sustain the momentum" it was launched with in the void of space... generating a warp field. That momentum is negated by the tractor beam. So when it was beamed on board... it had no momentum.
@tepan
Ай бұрын
@@varianschirmer9375 Thanks for pointing this out. Makes sense, and I absolutely missed it.
@rideshareroadwarriorrick
Жыл бұрын
How disappointing to cut it off at that point in the video
@jankemal8919
Жыл бұрын
If the probe was travelling at Warp Speed, why when it was beamed aboard the Enterprise did it not continue at Warp and rip through the ship.
@thesapphiredragon8568
Жыл бұрын
They have shown before that tractor beams can somewhat cancel out the effects of a warp drive and additionally warp drives wont even engage in confined spaces with an atmosphere due to not being able to make a stable warp field
@subkommander9007
Жыл бұрын
Because that's how the script was written
@frankcastle4010
Жыл бұрын
You would need all the energy in the universe to propel something the size of a car at the speed of light.. now imagine something weighing tens of thousands of tons moving around 8000 times faster than light.. unfortunately, this will be forever science fiction.
@mb9662
Жыл бұрын
It was Ensign Mariner
@stephendoherty8291
Жыл бұрын
Just one lift or just for upper deck users?
@josefmanga
Жыл бұрын
I think the probe would be smaller in perspective to the Enterprise.
@pparker768
Жыл бұрын
Great Rack
@Wizardof
Жыл бұрын
Season 2 written during the WGA thing.
@Phoenixesper1
Жыл бұрын
This scene touches on one of the BIGGEST problems with transporting at warp in trek... Or any velocity for that matter. That probe is traveling at warp 9, when they transport it, its STILL moving at warp 9. So when it rematerializes it's kinetic force is coming along for the ride. It should blow up both ships. This is why people have to be standing still on transporter pads and why transporting a moving object is tricky. Never mind something traveling almost 8000 times the speed of light! It was only when scotty (Old scotty after coming out of transporter stasis on the dyson sphere) Came up with the transwarp theory (which spock then brought to the JJ abrahms trekverse and gave to young scotty) That allowed for transporting objects at warp onto another object also traveling at warp. By all rights this menuver should be impossible until after the generations movie which is around the time scotty figured out the equation, likely met spock to greive over kirks death and gave the equation to spock.
@Bigrignohio
Жыл бұрын
Frame of reference. Yes, the probe is moving at X speed. However the Enterpise is ALSO traveling at X speed in the same direction (thus the tractor beam). In reference to EACH OTHER the speed is zero.
@xellestar
Жыл бұрын
IIRC the vessel travelling at warp is not moving in the conventional sense like that, due to expanding space in front and behind it. Since the science is impossible and made up, it doesn't make sense to try to apply logic to it
@mrchilli5618
Жыл бұрын
Plus when they initiated the tractor beam it was at a speed relative to the Enterprise and in effect, stopped.
@TheOneTrueDragonKing
Жыл бұрын
@@xellestar Actually, the science is all too real. Look up Miguel Alcubierre - he worked backwards from on-screen mathematical equations in Star Trek TNG to verify that the warp drive does in fact check out mathematically, and theoretically. We just need the proper amount of energy (the requirements are huge) and we can make it function identically to the fictional version in Star Trek.
@TheOneTrueDragonKing
Жыл бұрын
@@mrchilli5618 Indeed.
@LordTalax
Жыл бұрын
Why is the bass so high on these clips?
@dasaxophonist
Жыл бұрын
How does it go to warp? Also it looks just like a photon torpedoe
@AvangionQ
Жыл бұрын
A starship traveling at high warp probably launched it. Object in motion remains in motion.
@raideurng2508
Жыл бұрын
It effectively IS a photon torpedo without a warhead. Probes are very often torpedo casings with the warhead removed. Torpedoes and probes are fired off with a warp field and their casings contain a systainer engine that maintains the warp field but cannot generate a new one, allowing it to be much smaller at the cost of not being independently able to go to warp.
@ricksimon9867
Жыл бұрын
It never made any sense that these probes can go at warp speed, or any of the shuttles for that matter. So much attention to detail, but this they just ignored.
@danielmccurdy862
Жыл бұрын
They actually had an explanation for this at some point. If the launcher of the probe created the warp bubble, it was possible for the probe (or torpedo, which was seen much more often) to maintain the warp bubble for a certain period of time. Otherwise, probes could only move at sublight, and then what is the point of having probes? Faster to wait until you had a ship available.
@TheOneTrueDragonKing
Жыл бұрын
@@danielmccurdy862 They had a different explanation for this in Beta Canon. Per the Starfleet Academy game, probes (at least in the 23rd century when SFA takes place) are simply photon torpedoes with the warhead removed and an instrumentation package installed. Torpedoes contain their own micro-warp drives and are entirely self-propelled, including firing them while either at warp, or while the host ship was at sublight.
@pwnmeisterage
Жыл бұрын
Torpedoes and Probes contain a minimized "floating" propulsion system. It can't generate it's own warp field but it can maintain travel through one generated by the launch vehicle. It's a stupid official explanation, but there it is.
@ricksimon9867
Жыл бұрын
The point I was trying to make is that every universe has certain limitations; it is part of the fun, forcing the main characters to find other ways to solve a problem. But with regard to FTL torpedoes, shuttles and probes, the writers just decided, "nah, we are too lazy; we'll just use technobabble." _
@TheOneTrueDragonKing
Жыл бұрын
@@pwnmeisterage Actually, that has basis in reality. Some early guided missiles and even space rockets used "sustainer" engines to continue to power them at speed after launch after their booster stages separated. Notable missiles which used this included the sea-launched Talos missiles and the Atlas series of ICBMs, which also served as satellite launch platforms in the early days of NASA. Talos's sustainer was an air-breathing ramjet, while the Atlas series used a second rocket motor as their sustainer. So it's not as stupid as you believe. It's actually quite highly realistic.
@ronin1914
Жыл бұрын
What episode/season is this?
@scottmatheson3346
Жыл бұрын
heh heh, he said "probe" ...
@timothygaskins1383
Жыл бұрын
Is that ensign the same one as the admiral that cursed at Picard in season 1 of STP?
@stephandolby
Жыл бұрын
Sadly not, though they do share the same surname in-universe.
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