Nothing will stop the return of the *Watercooler* _Xbox One crashes_
@87crimson
3 сағат бұрын
It never left
@MERCERENiTY
3 сағат бұрын
Somehow indeed. It just won't die......... Unless the virus of red rings, and loud jet propulsion sounds, returns. 🤔🙄👀🫤🤷🏿♂️
@MoonSarito
3 сағат бұрын
Games are taking longer to be developed and are increasingly more expensive, it's obvious that they released it for the PC/PS5/Xbox Series hoping that the game would pay for itself but obviously it didn't, then they released it for the PS4/XONE in hope of making some more profit since the playerbase of these consoles is still very active.
@ZeitGeist_TV
3 сағат бұрын
It won't be any different next generation, especially with the PS5 Pro coming out soon. We might see an end to generational gaps in consoles like before.
@weaverquest
3 сағат бұрын
It's crazy that this game appeared to be CPU limited both on PCs & consoles at launch (perhaps due to RT cost but still) and yet its running on Jaguar CPU cores at mostly 30 fps just fine? Just shows how the avaliable CPU power is being used so inefficiently these days. We should have been getting games with much more advanced gameplay systems going from Jaguar to Zen 2 and yet we're barely getting anything we haven't seen on last gen.
@Jaba-hs6vd
3 сағат бұрын
Agree,most of the CPU power of zen 2 goes for 60fps mode on consoles but yet there is still room for improvements but developers don't want to spend more resources,I understand them,it's hard, really hard,it's not like making a movie
@flamingscar5263
3 сағат бұрын
The problem with CPU utilization is 2 fold For modern consoles, the APU dynamically shifts power between the CPU and GPU, meaning using 1 means the other slows down, pushing heavy graphics menas slower CPU cores and heavy CPU usage means lower graphics quality, so devs are left to choose which to prioritize Compared to last gen where both the CPU and GPU dedicated power draw, meaning you can push both to their limits Now for PC, it's because of multi tasking becoming much more popular, you can't use the entire CPU because someone is probably going to have a youtube video on their other monitor, a download in the background, in a discord call, and even windows itself uses a lot of CPU nowadays Compared to even around the same time as the PS4 and XONEs launch it was still common that if you were playing a game on PC, you stopped doing ANYTHING else
@teddyholiday8038
3 сағат бұрын
@@Jaba-hs6vdthe Zen 2 cores on current gen consoles are very stripped down Zen 2. Low cache, low boost clock, and gimped floating point
@deathtrooper2048
3 сағат бұрын
The stigma against 30 fps will not allow the CPU to be used outside of FPS.
@memoryman3586
3 сағат бұрын
@@flamingscar5263The power shifting between CPU and GPU only happens for PS5, not Xbox Series consoles
@Chasm9
4 сағат бұрын
It's seriously impressive they made it work and look this well on 11 year old hardware.
@MortenJohnsenSolberg
3 сағат бұрын
So it seems they spent more time optimizing last gen than current?
@shanez1215
2 сағат бұрын
For sure, the first game BARELY ran on last gen with comical pop-in that was even in cutscenes. Once the camera cut to Cere before her model loaded in, so her lo-poly potato model popped in and then finally loaded the high quality one.
@Marinho10
57 минут бұрын
Except on base PS4 and Xbox One, like explained in the video, that game struggles. It's more like on 7/8 year old hardware, because it's on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X where the game runs best for old gen consoles. But still, impressive.
@edylle
50 минут бұрын
I would say it’s the other way around. It’s not impressive making this game look good on old hardware, actually it’s a shame they can’t do better with current gen machines.
@j_james_01
14 минут бұрын
It’s running at 500p and 720p 😂 that’s not impressive. It’s a cash grab. It’s around 10 ish years that the Xbox 360 and PS3 started to get abandoned, the PS4 and Xbox One need to follow suit. They can’t keep up anymore
@uchennaobi5985
Сағат бұрын
The Last gen load times is insane. Load times this gen is under appreciated.
@Marinho10
49 минут бұрын
I mean, SSD's are super cheap anyway. I replaced the hard drive on my PS4 Pro about 1.5 years ago with an SSD (got a 960gb Kingston one, I can't remember the model, on sale for like $50). Sure you have to use SATA SSD that isn't as fast as NVMe. But when you compare it to mechanical hard drives getting a SATA SSD on a PS4 Pro gives it a huge performance boost.
@cldpt
44 минут бұрын
@@Marinho10 it's been proved that in most games, an SSD upgrade won't improve load times as much as it should, on at least PS4 hardware. This is due to a limitation on I/O that already existed on PS3. That said, if 1:40 vs 2:00 is that big a deal for you, for the extra cost and likely reduced capacity (because SSDs are more expensive per GB...), then it is an upgrade. Just don't go expecting PC-like improvements
@RedPillAlways
36 минут бұрын
If you want lower wait times all you have to do is have a PS4 Pro with the Samsung T7 SSD and your wait times by comparison to PS4 hard drive are much much better. That's how I ran my games on the PS4 Pro With my Discs of course. Because I've honestly just never been dumb enough to buy digital. Maybe one day I will trade competence for incompetence and being a company dependent cupcake..... NO.. I won't Now I will tell you I'm not buying the scam that is the PS5 Pro
@detectivemadoka69420
20 минут бұрын
@@cldpt Exactly, people think an SSD is going to magically improve performance, it's *_BARELY_* going to do anything since the system itself has to be built/designed with SSDs in mind.
@jadenpokemon8952
3 сағат бұрын
Seems a pretty decent port all things considered.
@alex.starostin
3 сағат бұрын
Honestly, PS4 and XOne hold up rather well considering its age and it's just so much, much better than what it was like in the end of PS3/360 era for those AAA games (sub 20fps, constant full screen tear) I think it has a lot to do with the 8GB of RAM in these old machines. I remember when the specs were unveiled back in 2013, everyone was very suprised by the massive (for the time) amount of RAM. And it definitely payed off.
@TimDespairBear11
3 сағат бұрын
only about 5 gigs are available for games though as 3 are for the OS
@TheRealLavonCason
3 сағат бұрын
I think PS5/Xbox Series Consoles to PS6/Next Xbox cross gen period will be interesting if we were to based on how long this cross gen period lasted. we are reaching point to going to be hard to tell which is the ps5/xbox series version and what will be the ps6/next xbox version when it comes to graphics.
@alex.starostin
3 сағат бұрын
@@TimDespairBear11 Sure but it's just the way it works for the new consoles as well. Xbox Series S for example only has 10GB (just 2GB more than PS4 gen!) of unified RAM and is still able to mostly provide the "next gen" experience as it's higher end siblings. Just to put things into perspective, PS4/XONE had 16 (!) times the amount of RAM PS3/360 had while PS5 only had a 2x increase.
@mimimimeow
3 сағат бұрын
@@TimDespairBear118GB was still a lot in 2013, back then people were running GTX670 with 2GB. On the PS4 Pro it has extra 3GB DDR3, but it's unclear whether it's for the OS or not.
@ethanator6015
2 сағат бұрын
@@TimDespairBear11 On the Xbox One. I recall reading the baseline PS4 has the full 8 GB, with an additional 256 MB of Ram for the OS, and background tasks.
@infinitysynthesis
3 сағат бұрын
The Xbox One X was a really good machine. It was so much better than the base Xbox in every way.
@anakinskyguy6582
3 сағат бұрын
It came out too late when Xbox's public image was too damaged to repair. If it had come in late 2015 or early 2016, things would have been very different for Xbox right now.
@ddmmmm771
2 сағат бұрын
the gpu was pretty fucking gnarly for release time for a console. i dont think any console has ever had such a strong gpu for its time and might not ever have one that strong in comparison to pc hardware ever again. i fucking loved my one x. rdr2 in particular was just beautiful despite being 30 fps . good times.
@jasonsmith530
2 сағат бұрын
If only the Ps5 pro had some competition
@oasisbeyond
2 сағат бұрын
@@ddmmmm771ps4 version wad flawless
@ddmmmm771
2 сағат бұрын
@@oasisbeyond all versions were great for the hardware besides ps4 pro. That weird half axis resolution was trash and made it blurrier then the ps4 version( I bought both) Rockstar put in work for sure
@darkmaster539
3 сағат бұрын
If you can get this working on a PS4, there's no excuse for the PS5 version to drop frames. Even Sony claim 3/4 of us pick FPS over visuals, I wish devs would accept that and stop pushing visuals at the cost of performance.
@MegaMerdeux
2 сағат бұрын
Maybe somethings wrong with your ps5. The game runs smoothly in performance mode on mine
@Unbekannt-007-00
2 сағат бұрын
@@MegaMerdeuxDid you play it upon release?
@3ericw
Сағат бұрын
They aren't pushing visuals at the cost of performance. They are pushing inefficient code with a brute force style approach
@abz7800
Сағат бұрын
never gonna happen especially on the pc side . if a game isnt performing at 60+ fps most of the time it will be blamed on the user for having a weak system with underpowered cpu and gpu . this allows devs to just make good looking games which are easier to market
@AlexanTheMan
3 сағат бұрын
The one great positive is the install size being reduced by two thirds. It makes me wonder if they can offer this as an option for the PC version, and the full asset quality can be installed separately by an obviously free DLC through Steam's library.
@jk2357
2 сағат бұрын
Patch 9 is running much better on my computer, in particular in terms of 1% lows. It is a much better experience and the game feels like a GOTY type game when it gets this level of performance.
@MrLuna109
58 минут бұрын
Yeah, it'd be nice to save some drive space even if it means worse textures
@karlhendrikse
8 минут бұрын
By two thirds
@antont4974
3 сағат бұрын
Impressive, last gen consoles live so much it's crazy and scary
@fenixa2z936
3 сағат бұрын
@@antont4974 30fps with proper motion blur is the only way to release these. Looks good.
@joseijosei
3 сағат бұрын
@@fenixa2z936I'm on PC. I play with a 4080 + overclocked i9 9900k combo, which is barely enough to handle the 4080 at 1440p if I have it at 5GHz. This game is pretty CPU heavy at times, and I have no idea how a PS4 CPU is able to run this at 30 fps. Bad performance? Sure, 100%, I wouldn't like playing like that because I have motion sickness. I wouldn't like playing this game on PS5 either, but damn! That's amazing performance for a PS4. I'm speechless.
@Whit3WolfXArcadia
3 сағат бұрын
The PS3/x360 lasted fairly long as well just saying
@alumlovescake
3 сағат бұрын
@@Whit3WolfXArcadia The ps2 got games all the way up to 2010
@morganwhaley9119
3 сағат бұрын
@@alumlovescake 2013 actually. FIFA 2014 and Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 were released on PS2 in September of 2013.
@joseijosei
3 сағат бұрын
Wait... how is this real? This is amazing. I was never so surprised about a game running on a console. I don't like consoles, but if had a PS4, bro, I would be glad about getting this kind of performance in a system that old, specially with that CPU.
@TrendSonic2nd
3 сағат бұрын
it is BD-1 NOT BB-8 4:10
@AbysmalEnd
3 сағат бұрын
I highly recommend swapping out the hard drive in the PS4 Pro for an SSD. I did that for my daughter so she could play games like Fortnite, and it dramatically improved the experience and cut down on loading screens and texture streaming. Even the PlayStation home screen runs smoother along with downloading and installing games. When the PS5 Pro comes out, she will graduate to the standard PS5, but for my PS4 gamers, please do this.
@alumlovescake
3 сағат бұрын
I don't normally say this and I hate saying it but, I wish the effort that went into this went into better optimising the other versions of the game.
@0-A2
2 сағат бұрын
Yep I am still not buying it until it's fixed lol
@0007JO
Сағат бұрын
ps5 version is good now
@ardasevmis7583
4 сағат бұрын
This game struggled to run on ps5 and series x at launch yet now it is being launched on ps4 and xbox one. Just shows how unoptimized it was at launch
@Atonam_real
4 сағат бұрын
Almost every game released these days are heavily unoptimised.
@peterGchaves
4 сағат бұрын
It still struggles af right now on both PS5 and Xbox Series X. Shows how much the developers and publishers really just care about the money from players buying the game, and not the state of it.
@Nago15
3 сағат бұрын
Anyone else want this lower graphic quality available on current gen? Just increasing the resolution as much as it can still hold 60 fps.
@nothingisawesome
3 сағат бұрын
@@Atonam_real but even worse than that
@Nago15
3 сағат бұрын
@@teddyholiday8038 I want to increase the resolution, please learn to read before commenting. It's low as hell, totally unacceptable on a current gen console what was advertised as a 4K device.
@neonkapawn
3 сағат бұрын
Would be interesting to see PS4 and Pro running this game on an SSD instead of the hard drive.
@xxlee1019
3 сағат бұрын
Is anyone else interested in watching a Roundup of all the base PS4 720p games? I think it would contrast the 1080p PS3 video really well.
@TheKingOfSpain
4 сағат бұрын
It’s almost like the game wasn’t finished when they released it
@simonrockstream
4 сағат бұрын
it still isnt.
@TheRedRaven_
3 сағат бұрын
You think 😂
@Sheppardsg1
3 сағат бұрын
third part is comming since is a trilogy then series acording to rummor since cal story aint done yet
@be0wulfmarshallz
2 сағат бұрын
Yall praising last gen for running this game when its pretty clear that its not great anyways, with heavily reduced visuals and still stutters in other areas. Smh, console players will find any way to praise their hardware at 30 fps.
@crestofhonor2349
2 сағат бұрын
@@be0wulfmarshallzthe game is fine on last gen. What do you expect from 2013 hardware running the game. Most games were 30fps anyways last gen
@sirjohnmandeville7488
2 сағат бұрын
Honestly this looks perfectly acceptable on the pro, Moore's law is definitely dead and we need to stop pretending it's still alive.
@MetroidFREAK21
3 сағат бұрын
The fact that the physical versions on PS4/Xbox One can be played through the entire game without game data downloads is a major selling point. I snagged a PS4 copy myself (to play on my PS5)
@karlhendrikse
6 минут бұрын
Why?
@SpeedIng80
3 сағат бұрын
Would be interesting how a PS4 (Pro) with an SSD holds up ...
@WH250398
3 сағат бұрын
The differences wouldn't be massive. If I remember correctly, the Ssd helps with textures loading in more quickly. Loading times were usually just 5-15 seconds faster.
@KyleNornIreland
3 сағат бұрын
Samsung evo 870
@MisterReen
3 сағат бұрын
Ps4 (pro) isn’t able to fully utilize an SSD.
@Emirizm..
2 сағат бұрын
I have PS4 PRO 7216. External Samsung 2TB 870 QVO. Load 23 second !!!
@brandon_nope
2 сағат бұрын
@@MisterReen It has SATA 3
@bobtom1495
3 сағат бұрын
I'm glad I got the ps4 verison. I also own it on ps5, BUT i'm playing it for the first time on ps4, and it's been fun so far. I also love that the ps4 copy has 2 discs to install, meaning you don't need to be online to play it vs ps5 where you need to download an update to even play it because EA was too cheap to do 2 discs....
@angelocruz525
3 сағат бұрын
That´s why im buying this version, full on disc.
@hombrear
Сағат бұрын
What are the advantages of playing the PS4 version over the PS5 one?
@abz7800
Сағат бұрын
@@hombrear nothing other than nostalgic feel and sometimes it feels better to play on lower graphics just due to again emotions and nostalgia . this is why older games like from ps1 ps2 ps3 are still played
@phrozac
3 сағат бұрын
I can hear the jet engine roar of my retired PS4 Pro(from the other end of the house) just from watching this footage.
@87crimson
3 сағат бұрын
This goes to show that we could have kept the old consoles for 2 extra years easily. Necessity is the mother of invention. When you give developers more powerful hardware they typically slack, as they bruteforce the game. If it were up to them we would need a 4070 to run Tetris.
@crestofhonor2349
Сағат бұрын
No one was expecting a massive pandemic to hit as soon as the consoles were set to drop
@IronicSonic83
2 сағат бұрын
I think mid 8gen refresh consoles hold up incredible well. SWJS is still a looker. Within 8gen, probably is visually one of the best looking games
@PoppyPitts-vm3jx
3 сағат бұрын
This just made my day better!
@The_Ostrich
4 сағат бұрын
It looks fine for what it is, kinda fascinating to see resolutions like 720p on PS4 and 576p on Xbox One though, they barely had games with low resolutions like that. I can see this game getting also ported to the Switch 2, interesting to see how well that version will look now that we know the surprisingly good specs.
@AnimeUniverseDE
3 сағат бұрын
I think those internal resolutions are getting upscaled with fsr2 to a 1080p target
@danielpiekut
3 сағат бұрын
I predict 800p upscaled to 1440p docked and 540p upscaled to what is native resolution of Switch 2
@christianr.5868
3 сағат бұрын
@@danielpiekut assuming it’s 1080p that’s perfect integer scaling for dlss. Should look pretty nice tbh
@starbez
3 сағат бұрын
@@AnimeUniverseDE old consoles can't use fsr2. It would cost too much
@erikhendrickson59
2 сағат бұрын
Here's to hoping the S2 has a 90Hz VRR screen
@Ajax-322
4 сағат бұрын
This current generation is pathetic
@jorgea8518
2 сағат бұрын
Funny, that's what they said about last generation too. You people are never happy.
@crestofhonor2349
2 сағат бұрын
People do say that every gen. I remember when everyone was calling the 7th gen trash
@RobIn-ky4uz
3 сағат бұрын
Star Wars: The Return of the VIII Generation
@Byeahman
54 минут бұрын
I still think it’s so crazy that everyone saw how the PS5 and XSX versions launched and EA said “yeah let’s try putting it on weaker hardware.” I think it’s even crazier that it isn’t a terrible port.
@entertainmentwizard2703
2 сағат бұрын
Still seems playing the PS4 version on PS5 will give you a good experience with no online DRM crap!
@juanrubio6132
3 сағат бұрын
It's unbelievable how unoptimized they release video games nowadays. It's time for the government to step in because they are selling low quality products on purpose. They were trying to sell that this game was hard to run on current gen consoles.
@kiisseli1337
3 сағат бұрын
My original Xbox One still going strong 💪 I will never update. Modern hardware is a joke. No games, no reason to get. Oh wait, maybe we don't have games because of me.
@ZiggyStardust85
3 сағат бұрын
At least it runs better than Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor on Xbox 360 and PS3. 😉
@SteamPunk96
3 сағат бұрын
a fantastic effort really, compare this to something like the cross-gen release of Shadow of Mordor, that should've been illegal to sell while this is definitely a playable version of judder survivor
@Thehotdogman
26 минут бұрын
This is still an amazing feat, and as someone on a base PS4, still greatly appreciated. I wonder how an SSD upgrade might help loading times.
@molsen7549
2 сағат бұрын
You know the only reason we got a patch 9 for PC is so Respawn wouldn't get clowned for having the game run better on an 11 year old console than it does on a high-end pc.
@3a43mka
2 сағат бұрын
Holy shit not only did they spend more time optimizing this for past gen (and actually succeded), they also fit it completely on 2 discs. Somehow it looks like they hate the current gen compared to PS4 and XBONE.
@brunonunes4446
2 сағат бұрын
Excellent analysis, Tom! Always a treat to see your work. One thing of note - the "white flashes" , or unreal's "ambient occlusion culling" has problems on PC, PS5 and Series X too and was never fixed, per reports on reddit and ea forums, so PS4 and XONE suffer even more with this method of asset streaming and I don't even know if its possible to fix without breaking the game. Also, been playing since launch and EA has released patch 1.02 for PS4 to enable trophies and pre order content to show up but the culling problem seems to have increased from the 1.01 patch, somehow, being extremely noticeable on closed spaces. Playing on base PS4 and hoping for a potential solution!
@theficklegamer1
3 сағат бұрын
Also appears that game is complete on disc and runs at 60fps on new gen consoles for anyone that cares about their physical media.
@karlhendrikse
4 минут бұрын
Complete for now sure, but there will obviously be a patch at some point.
@theficklegamer1
2 минут бұрын
@@karlhendrikse ok. But the original build will always be playable off the disc
@emmyjr1231
2 сағат бұрын
don't let these tech nerds dissuade you. if you own the last gen hardware and you wanna play it, go for it. The general public won't notice these differences.
@kapixniecapix3869
2 сағат бұрын
It will, EVERYONE WILL. Specially screan tearing and drops bellows 30 and ofcourse pop ups - you cant miss the last one. Man game cant manage to render itself on time. Plus you would have to watch cutscenes on youtube. If you have last gen consoles or old PC just don't play it and wait for better times and better hardware. I did exactly this - just watching of curiosity.
@mimimimeow
Сағат бұрын
@@kapixniecapix3869 Most people are not gfx nerds and can handle 30Hz just fine. I own a 4070 PC and I still play on PS4 for titles I think not worthy of my SSD space.
@abz7800
Сағат бұрын
@@kapixniecapix3869 yeah its stupid to say people wont notice . but deffo people might not care or be interested in the upgrades . the ps5 version is better but not everyone cares about have the best experience if their current experience is fine
@kapixniecapix3869
Сағат бұрын
@@abz7800 Ok fine someone might not care, and ignore a world poping out of space when you move camera. Someone might but I honestly cant say why someone should. Everyone have a games series or even entire genres that wanted to check out and never had a time. This is the time, if star wars is not only thing you are interest in you can just play something different. Graphicly game is not that bad on ps4/xone but the performance and THAT AGRESIVE pop ups. I am not a purist, I have old PC and ps4 pro and play newer games sometimes. Thanks to FSR my pc can handle a bit of new gen. HDD drive and 4th core processor in 2024 limit your options though. (specs:i5 7500 16gb gtx 1060 6gb hdd)
@abz7800
Сағат бұрын
@@kapixniecapix3869 you understand that games and hardware will always improve in the future . Why don’t you just play this game in 30years where you might easily be able to get more than 200fps max settings with 8k oled monitor for cheap . There’s always better things no one can keep up since technology is improving but just play with what you got and it’s fine .
@arjun220
Сағат бұрын
Sony : here is the new 9th gen 700$ ps5 pro! PS4 : I'm back!
@АндрейНазарьянц
2 сағат бұрын
At first I was confused to see such a small bump in resolution on Pro and One X, but after watching fps tests I'm on board with that decision, the performance is just so much better
@tipsy634
3 сағат бұрын
Damn imagine how smooth the game would be if these low quality assets were available on the base version The difference to me just looks like black flag/shadow of mordor on 360 vs black flag/shadow of mordor on xbox one. The visual upgrades on the ps5 aren't enough alone. Only the load times are the real driving force.
@chrisbrown113096
3 сағат бұрын
Rose tinted glasses, Mordor on ps3/360 was pure garbage 🗑️ was a major step up on ps4/XB1
@ivand5699
2 сағат бұрын
@@chrisbrown113096 Yeah not the same, at least this one is playable.
@chrisbrown113096
2 сағат бұрын
@@ivand5699 yeah at least this game looks good and presentable. Mordor on ps3 lacked aliasing, + weather effects made it like a 15/25fps game 💀
@AhmadWahelsa
19 минут бұрын
We need separate optional HD texture packs download to return, would be nice to be able to cut off install size significantly while improving performance
@cyco7229
3 сағат бұрын
All things considered, ports look quite good considering how old the hardware is. If I didn't made the jump already I'd play it on PS4 easily.
@erikalvarez4516
2 сағат бұрын
I think the 8th gen was one Microsoft and Sony need to reflect on. I mean that generation had the anemic Jaguar CPU that was already severely underpowered at launch but they were able to revise and price cut the hell out of both consoles and that's what we have missed this generation. I mean the PS5 uses 5lbs of copper just to cool the damn thing and to my knowledge not much has been revised to cut production costs on either. The PS5 and Series X should be $350-400 4 years in. and I understand Covid and the inflation of the current economy have made a big impact but I think that makes the price cuts needed even more over the push to make a Pro variant that is not only expensive but requires another $100 to have a basic stand and Blu-ray drive.
@envoyofrot7046
Сағат бұрын
Never saw a game getting a last-gen update. Also from 150GB to 50GB is crazy
@ramiressrauul7705
49 минут бұрын
When devs really put the effort to optimize it really shows, for example look at the port of the witcher 3 on the switch amazing, hate when devs dont optimize their games and ask for dumb requirements, a recent example is GOW ragnarok asking for avx2 instructions and more than 4gb of vram on pc leaving out a lot of players, the worst thing i see is that the dumb sheep say "buy a new pc" LOL
@tyo101
4 сағат бұрын
I've been waiting for this!
@N3xlow
2 сағат бұрын
this game will improved drastically with an ssd in those machines
@danielgebert4556
2 сағат бұрын
What a thing to behold. This is a game I want to play and it’s on most every platform. and yet, there are literally no platforms where it runs well enough for me to actually purchase it. It’s a shame really. I hope at some point I’ll get to play it but I’m not holding my breath. And I understand if that comes across as overly picky, but it is super immersion breaking seeing the kinds of bugs and hitches like are present in this game. And I don’t want to support that kind of release, let alone at full price. Maybe someday it’ll run well on something - or be cheap enough that I’ll just give it a shot anyway.
@Lackooo84
3 сағат бұрын
Is the downgrade free on PSN? :D
@ArcueidBrunestuddo
2 сағат бұрын
I guess they did this weird backport as a test on how well it'll perform on the Switch 2 which will have PS4 specs.
@Psychx_
2 сағат бұрын
Well the last-gen version turned out surprisingly good, especially considering how anemic the console CPUs and GPUs are compared to even not-so-recent PCs, so the devs did really try to optimize it for these older platforms. Otherwise, we'd have a 2nd Cyberpunk now lol.
@BillFoster-st4hj
3 сағат бұрын
Huge thanks for this analysis Thomas! I didn't believe this will happen when you guys talked about it a year ago and just few hours ago I fired up Survivor on my surviving PS4 Pro with SSD. I had pull up some ps5 footage because I didn't believe how good it looks at first. I wanted to wait for PS5 Pro but it's not worth it at this point, maybe someday. I am also curious if my ps4 disk running on ps5 would produce that 60fps enhanced performance mode (sounded like that from your words :) )
@BrotherKnowledge.
Сағат бұрын
An Xbox One X with an internal SSD is still able to pull decent weight and it is surprising. God, did they do that machine justice. If only they made the Series S had some of the Xbox One X specs (12GB of RAM, 6 teraflops).. it woupd have been such a beast of a mini-machine.
@dizzee2100
3 сағат бұрын
2 minute load times. yeah, maybe we should put these consoles to rest for good.
@crestofhonor2349
Сағат бұрын
It’s the HDD. Put in a SSD and loading times will be cut
@finthechatboisqwq5602
29 минут бұрын
When covering last-gen, I wish you guys would do more comparisons between the load times of a standard PS4 and a PS4 with an SSD; after all, a $50 SSD is often an easier decision to make than a $500 console. My experience is that it's cut almost all of my load times in half
@NecroMorrius
2 сағат бұрын
Honestly, it’s impressive considering everything.
@ExG131
3 сағат бұрын
I would love to see you come back to this game on the PS5 PRO. Since RT is the selling point.
@YouTubeChannel-iq5to
2 сағат бұрын
Watching this to imagine games on Switch 2 😊
@rubenjorge13
4 сағат бұрын
Would love to see a comparison with Jedi Fallen Order
@TheIntrepidSockKnitter
3 сағат бұрын
Thanks for this really interesting review. This looks great! I've been giving this a wide berth on Steam since launch and hadn't given the last Gen versions a 2nd thought until now. However, with my PS4 Pro SSD, I'm willing to give it a go 🙂
@eburt7121
2 сағат бұрын
You guys should test the 8th Gen versions on the 9th gen machines. It honestly might be the best way to play.
@BeefLettuceAndPotato
Сағат бұрын
Quick reminder folks, it's SUPER easy to upgrade your PS4 (and PS3 lol) with a SSD. Help out those load times in this game and all others!
@IuriFiedoruk
3 сағат бұрын
I remember when companies made different versions of the same game for previous generations. I still like Star Wars Force Unleashed in the Playstation 2 better than on 3, because the newer platform had some gameplay issues like falling from platforms because of a combo sequence moving your characters out of it.
@seangalvin4582
3 сағат бұрын
I would love to know how this version sells. I wonder if getting this working on last gen was done to add value to EA play and GamePass for ps4 and xbox one users rather than to sell them the almost two year old game.
@cliftongardner4367
45 минут бұрын
“This game struggles to hit 30FPS” Me, a gamer who grew up on Goldeneye: “You can’t scare me”
@jarde1989
19 минут бұрын
I expect this game to run fairly well on Switch2 At least locked 30 but hopefully a 60fps mode with DLSS
@AJJJ-co2vd
Сағат бұрын
Man it's going to look great on my PS5 PRO 💪
@x100bullets
2 сағат бұрын
It’s crazy how good it looks on PS4 Pro compared to PS5 I’m signed up to PlayStation network for like ten years, so I’ll still get a PS6, but I’m probably going to get a high end nvidia card as well, so I can see some actual improvements.
@alikhalid9998
2 сағат бұрын
What a beautiful game It just ended right now on pc after that time i thought it was not a good game purchase at a discounted price and what a journey it is really ahead of his time
@HueyTheDoctor
29 минут бұрын
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's port.
@WhooFlungPoo
35 секунд бұрын
There was a serious lack of visual polish on ps5. To those playing on older machines... Thank you for your service!
@CHARIF_Omar
3 сағат бұрын
I care very less about textures and general grafics, I wanted to play it but i wouldn't buy a ps5 for it so I'm a happy man
@cirotheb5
36 минут бұрын
1:51 waiting for that Silent Hill 2 tech review!
@Darth_Zabrak
3 сағат бұрын
4:10 BB-8? I think you mean BD-1, but thats all good
@deathtrooper2048
3 сағат бұрын
The lack of a series s comparison is criminal
@lechistanskiswit320
3 сағат бұрын
Yup. Way lower res than OG Xbox One X, worse framerate and cut back visuals.
@vitorf2303
3 сағат бұрын
Yes, was expecting to see it, it's like DF forget that +70% of the Xbox user base is on the S, i own a PS5 and a Series S and i really miss when the S isn't shown
@ZeitGeist_TV
2 сағат бұрын
@@tyler328The One X is a beast with that 6TF GPU and 12Gb's of GDDR5 compared to the Series S which only beats the One X in CPU and SSD.
@crestofhonor2349
Сағат бұрын
@@tyler328Xbox one X isn’t a 4K console
@crestofhonor2349
Сағат бұрын
@@tyler328 that means nothing. My MacBook from 2013 can output 4K and so can the Steam deck as well as Xbox One S. Doesn’t make them 4K consoles
@zonzore
Сағат бұрын
IGN did a comparison video and I believe they mixed up the footage and labeled PS5 as PS4 and vice-versa. Everyone noticed that the PS4 labeled footage looked noticeably better than PS5. I personally thought they mixed them up and this video proved my right.
@rvalent9366
3 сағат бұрын
Why are pre rendered cutscenes not a thing anymore? The game is already 50gb lmao a few gb of hq (or even less than that to match rendering resolution lol) videos won't kill anyone
@tommydplayskeys
2 сағат бұрын
I wonder if it has to do with customising the player's outfits or something like that?
@rvalent9366
2 сағат бұрын
@@tommydplayskeys is a unmatching outfit worse than a 720p freezing unstable cutscene? Like final fantasy 13 from 15 years ago simply used high quality pre rendered cutscenes and it was sick af
@crestofhonor2349
Сағат бұрын
They probably don’t want to spend the time making them when running them in real time works fine. Plus then you have to do them again and again for all the different languages the game supports for its dubs
@rvalent9366
Сағат бұрын
@@crestofhonor2349they had 17 months to do 1 ps5 capture of each cutscene no dialog then put the audio track on it
@crestofhonor2349
Сағат бұрын
@@rvalent9366 they aren’t going to pre render the cutscenes
@benvids
3 сағат бұрын
I think games have hit a serious plateau. Outside of clarity and loading times, new consoles don’t offer new gameplay experiences.
@amilyester
3 сағат бұрын
Now THIS is podracing!
@whoknow2077
2 сағат бұрын
Ps4 and xbox one look alright tbh
@Psychx_
2 сағат бұрын
I think even a SATA SSD would already bring some quite noticable improvement regarding loading times and frametime on PS4 + X1
@Antares-dw9iv
Сағат бұрын
I dunno if the Jaguar CPU could keep up with decompression at that point it. Using SSDs in the 8th gen consoles generally produces pretty disappointing results because of the CPU. Would probably still be an improvement but I wouldn't bet a lot on it.
@crestofhonor2349
Сағат бұрын
@@Antares-dw9ivSSDs have already been shown to improve loading times on last gen. It doesn’t bring it to 9th gen console levels but it is a nice cut to the time you are sitting there
@jamesfreeman3981
Сағат бұрын
This crazy how good this looks wow
@benjaminturkalj4415
2 сағат бұрын
Df: sadly the textures take a hit and it slows down sometimes. Ps4 owners: it plays well who cares
@Throwdownsoldier
3 сағат бұрын
Just waiting for the GOW pc performance vid.😊😊
@volsavious2319
3 сағат бұрын
Runs like a dream
@smitty8310
23 минут бұрын
In 2024, any testing of last gen consoles should really include an SSD upgrade. They're cheap, and plenty of KZitem instructions exist for each console. I imagine an SSD will improve the Survivor experience significantly.
@twocityfoodies8476
2 сағат бұрын
That load time is wild... reminds me of waiting forever for Need For Speed 1 on PS1.
@mess00747
3 сағат бұрын
We got a Jedi Survivor De-Mastered before GTA VI 💀
@williehew
3 сағат бұрын
Good grief look at those load times. Oft overlooked benefit of 9th gen consoles. Thanks for the reminder.
@stingus
Сағат бұрын
The Switch is next! 360p in portable, just like we love it!
@jamescampbell8482
2 сағат бұрын
They really could've spent the 20 minutes and just made videos of the cut scenes rendered at their proper quality. They could've ripped the cut scenes off of KZitem from somebody running them on a 4090
@crestofhonor2349
Сағат бұрын
Would greatly increase the size of the game as they’d need a video for each voiced language the game supports
@WH250398
3 сағат бұрын
576p? Good lord. The pal ps2 ran this resolution interlaced.
@TheRockHardKeg
2 сағат бұрын
It’d be interesting to compare the visuals to the previous game on last gen and see if it’s an upgrade or if it ends up looking worse. Maybe worse since the scale is so much bigger?
@EonHSD
Сағат бұрын
THe game looks phenomenal on Last Gen, they did a fantastic job. This just goes to show that devs can absolutely make games run better if they have enough time. The studio heads and shareholders just don't care for it.
@AbrahamZX1
2 сағат бұрын
1:50 I can see you guys already got access to SH2 on PS5. Can't wait for the tech review (and game reviews too)!
@Leeyon1313
3 сағат бұрын
@digitalfoundry great work again in covering these systems. I respect the review as it expertly analysed. Thanks for the work
@fenixa2z936
4 сағат бұрын
Banger on PS4 Pro
@JeskidoYT
3 сағат бұрын
Ah yes the reverse cyberpunk maneuver 😂😂
@gets0410
Сағат бұрын
What's baffling about these 3rd party games that they are not even Forbidden West quality in terms of visuals, yet they still struggle across generations. Even Fallen Order feels heavy on the PS4 slim.
@TheSpongyMallard
45 минут бұрын
That’s because Sony wants the first party games to be good enough to sell a console.
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