What an awesome tractor even with her issues. I would LOVE to get my hands on a 4320. Love the channel, Wes! You're one of my all time favorite KZitemrs.
@QRoutback
10 жыл бұрын
Flush it with some diesel , drop the pan and inspect the bottom end and oil pump
@relviikzoor9921
10 жыл бұрын
Hey, onelonleyfarmer love your videos, check out my 1954 John Deere 60 on my channel if you've got a minute Thanks.
@klc317
10 жыл бұрын
I don't think theres enough winter for all the projects you have coming up...ha!
@michaelovitch
10 жыл бұрын
Black smoke = engine low compression or worn out injectors pissing too much. if you have no glow plugs or grid heater it's normal for it to start with difficulty. Starting fluid is not good. piston rings take a huge stress because of the too quick combustion. Starting fluid is for gas engines working with spark. they have a lower compression ratio and can handle it. But when you cranck the engine you clearly can hear the compressions are uneven. the engine is hobbling.
@sstroh08
8 жыл бұрын
True but that is what john deere intended with these for whatever reason, they have no grid heater or glow plugs, most have a little push thing under the steering wheel in which you shove the ether can into and it sends the ether directly to the intake manifold
@terraviewfarmsstables3311
8 жыл бұрын
+sstroh08 what your case fan not jd
@jeffreyhollink985
7 жыл бұрын
black smoke if it dous it vrom the day the bought it its normal
@MultiPowerlin
7 жыл бұрын
michaelovitch older john deere tractors always blow smoke with the mechanical fuel pump it was how they aided cold starts
@ih1206
10 жыл бұрын
The Old His of there area are cold blooded as hell to. Every 806 I ever ran needed a good snort to get it going in the morning. Same way with the 1206 too. I don't know what the deal is with that but they always ran good and had plenty of power for what we do. They always rolled black smoke too! haha
@ChileExpatFamily
10 жыл бұрын
I would love to have that tractor down here in Chile. Could you flush it out with diesel or a cleaner that would remove the gunk and then put new oil in it?
@it899
10 жыл бұрын
cut your plugged filters open and see whats in them
@allied1394
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Wes are you guys located near spring lake New Jersey I have to go there this weekend never been before
@NuffMan_
10 жыл бұрын
i think that you have ruined your piston rings whit the starting fluid, and that's why they are not starting good. If i can start my -55 nuffield in -30c without any heating or starting fluid or shit, whit only 1 cylinder that had proper compression i bet that all famous jhon deere should start with just the as good :)
@kevinwillis9126
10 жыл бұрын
hi wes how about a rant on Ebola ?? wot are your thoughts on this.
@karjack11
10 жыл бұрын
I see the old oliver is awaiting it journey out in the pasture..good vid wes.
@sillenHDsportster
10 жыл бұрын
Never use synthetic oil in an old engine that has had regular oil! All engines I have done it on brokedown. :-(
@samtheman983
10 жыл бұрын
Those 4320 clutch videos were the first videos I watched on your channel. Been a sub ever since!
@segarza
10 жыл бұрын
I had an engine do the same thing last year. Filter plugged up, blobs of gunk in the pan. Pulled the oil pan drain plug off and nothing came out! Stuck my finger in the drain hole and pulled out a blob of gunk. Turned out to be coolant slowly seeping into the oil gallery from a crack around a head bolt. It only happens when the coolant system is pressurized. The water evaporated out leaving the ethylene glycol behind which gelled the engine oil.
@terrellfarms1
10 жыл бұрын
Hope you get it figured out Wes. I did notice one other problem though. I know this is going to hurt alot when i tell you and i'm sure you already know. I think the old girl is going to need some new shoes. MORE DAMN TIRES!!!! LOL!
@onelonleyfarmer
10 жыл бұрын
Ha ha yes I did know that
@justinjohnston8704
10 жыл бұрын
onelonleyfarmer Where did you get your bead breaker?
@stevenwalker3349
7 жыл бұрын
Terry Presnal
@timmcneil1536
10 жыл бұрын
while you have the pan off change or clean the oil pump pick up.( screen could be clogged)
@wildcoyote34
10 жыл бұрын
sounds pretty good for a 42 year old tractor I had this same thing happen to a 1989 ford ranger I bought in june of 2013 I bought it with 98k original miles and the oil was horrible ,nasty,and it was sludged up terribly ,, well stupid me I changed the oil and used full synthetic oil ,, well I had exactly the same thing you are dealing with on your 4320 deere ,, it sat for 3 months after the oil change and all that crap ended up in the pan and plugged up the oil pickup screen I have to pull the engine out of it and put new bearings in the engine due to the making a little noise ,, I parked it as soon as this happened so hopefully I didn't permanently damage the engine
@Ham68229
10 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the old 4320's have 2 oil pumps? Since you're going to do the main and rod bearings, check the wrist pins as well. She does sound good. The old 2 cylinder and 10/20 series were always good tractors from JD.
@Kilhamjim
10 жыл бұрын
Im almost certain that John Deere original oil filters have a bypass relief valve at the bottom end of the oil filter, so if the filter plugs the oil gets through, More likely to be the oil pump filter gauze that's blocked,
@aparks5595
10 жыл бұрын
Wes, I only skimmed comments, but I'm in school as an automotive tech, and the thing you have to watch on putting an old motor (looser tolerances) on synthetic oil (designed for tighter tolerances) is the top end will knock if it sets for any time at all because it's smaller more uniform molecules drain out of the heads, causing premature wear. I know you can fix it and probably know all this, but I figured since I'm about as up to date as they come at the moment on engine tech, if share what knowledge I have on it
@rudypodhora914
10 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, you may want to get a hack saw and cut the ends off that old filter and pull the paper out. If you pull the paper out flat on a clean place ( white paper towel down first ) you can see what type of metal is in the filter, or if there is any metal at all. I have done this before and it gave me a good idea of what was going on with the tractor engine before I went to work on it. Good luck with the repair!
@ianmcghie33
10 жыл бұрын
42 years ago, they never had the machining tolerances of today's modern engine, so you shouldn't put pish thin synthetic oil into an old engine because the crank can't hold the oil to build up pressure bud.
@TheThecyclist
10 жыл бұрын
sounds like the pan will be full of gunge and as wyliecyote says the oil pickup screen is most likely plugged up as well thats my diagnosis hope im correct if iam give me a shoutout user name is the cyclist
@andrewkiwi1
10 жыл бұрын
(Im guessing at a distance) so when you pull the sump off check the oil pick up as it may be partially blocked. it happens on old motors through mixing different grade oils or lack of changes. Also oil pressure relief valve gunked up or have a weak or broken spring too. That can give the same symptoms (low oil pressure). If the oil pickup has a mesh screen take it off the pump and put it in a bean tin with some gas and set it alight and let it burn the oil off. It will turn to carbon and be easier to clean without wrecking the fine mesh.
@flagzau
10 жыл бұрын
You own bison(s)? Kinda of new, just wondering what do you grow mainly and do you do cattle at all?
@2009deerejohn
10 жыл бұрын
Why do Deere's love ether so much anyway, my grandfathers loader has the same motor as your 7810 I believe and it would need a healthy shot of liquid courage after sitting in the heated shop all weekend at 55, same goes with most Deere tractors/iron from the 80's/90's I've been around
@Graveltrucking
10 жыл бұрын
Both old early 80s John Deere backhoes I worked with needed ether to start no way they would start without it. Interesting about the synthetic oil something to keep in mind.
@normanserena8617
10 жыл бұрын
did the same w/jd4020 switched to a toilet paper filter and rebuilt oil pump. Saved alot on filters
@farmer1104
10 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Wes. I would like to see a few videos on corn and soybean harvest. By the way we are picking corn in Indiana.
@woutermaat9300
10 жыл бұрын
hi wes I love your movies! and i'm a big fan of you, is that 4320 for sale? greets from wouter the netherlands
@MasterBo39
10 жыл бұрын
The thinness of the oil dripping from the dipstick suggests that at operating temp, the viscosity has dropped hard and your engine acting "tight" is actually becoming un-lubricated. A can of STP per four quarts of oil, should fix it, or at least help reduce it's tendency to tighten up some.
@super6954
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Wes Being a Deere man i figured you'd know the story of bad starting when the sun goes behind the clouds, those older Deeres and some newer ones don't start good for some reason!. I've had bleed green and yellow die hard Deere guys, tell me that locally as well. I'm not going to lecture you on either theres no point your a smart guy and know how much is just enough and to much! i did figure that battery was near flat and it surprised me that she did fire up. Good luck on the crank bearings ,i hope she's not scored or picked up on the crank. That would be a shame. That old girl must be as old as you, Its 2 years older than me. i think thats what our age gap is between us 2 years I'm 40 . Regards Robert
@nathanmoss2129
10 жыл бұрын
Great video Wes. I really enjoy watching your videos. Did you make any plans for the plow day you proposed on your earlier videos?
@73buickman
10 жыл бұрын
I grew up learning to drive the tractor with a 4020 with the hiniker all weather cab, I miss those days
@nckcowboy
10 жыл бұрын
Ok...Totally off the subject. You have a buffalo? Guess I missed that video.
@we34w
10 жыл бұрын
Ive washed engines out with Diesel fuel as well. Will clean some crud of out of a engine.
@Kilhamjim
10 жыл бұрын
If your using Easy Start you should warm the can up with hot water, or a hot air gun so when its sprayed into the intake its a mist or vapour, spraying it in as a neat liquid is what jiggers the engine up. You could even use hair spray or WD40 as long as its a mist,
@Earthau
10 жыл бұрын
I could watch you start your tractors and take them for a drive to the hay stack and back all day long! Just gotta love Diesel Power
@Tf9500
10 жыл бұрын
Won't take to long to pull the pan and clean it cheaper than ten filters and oil and you'll know what you have good video Wes it will make a good video
@andymandyandsheba4571
10 жыл бұрын
flush it first put a few pints of paraffin in with engine oil run it drop the oil refill and try it again before stripping the bottom end out also just inspect the big ends and mains wes just in case its something else holding it back you do great videos
@iancraig1951
10 жыл бұрын
do not put synthetic oil in an older motor--a mechanic did it to one of mine and it cleaned all the carbon from rings etc--now the mongrell thing has gone from using no oil in 10 000ks to using a litre per hundred ks... I could kill the sob
@woutkuiphuis
10 жыл бұрын
Should this maybe be a cool tractor for the haywagon or is it not powerfull anoug srry for bad english by the way Greetz from the Netherlands
@55sambo24
6 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video but those 20 series tractors start better if you turn the wheel back and forth while cranking, some kinda pump it frees up
@504jrg
9 жыл бұрын
U should definitely check cam bearings too another important passage of oil everyone tends to ignore which will take beaten and never build oil pressure correct if worn
@bobbybethel2688
10 жыл бұрын
I would check the fuel filter and air filter before opening up the engine. if the temp on the engine is not showing overheating the odds of the bearings getting tight is slim. most all oil systems have a filter bypass built in bobby bethel old machanic
@1emt95
10 жыл бұрын
"smoked black" us new kids call that roaling coal, haha nice tractor
@dexterscott33
10 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the buffalo. Yes it is a buffalo. He pointed it out in the "replacement tractor" video.
@adeereplowboy
8 жыл бұрын
John Deere filters are made by Donaldson. There is a visible difference between the "Deere" filter and a Baldwin filter.
@zackzander4425
9 жыл бұрын
That poor tractor is kept outside and then blasted with starting fluid.
@speakerville
8 жыл бұрын
the old allis-chalmers I grew up with never needed juice unless it was below 0
@cornfed5229
3 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do a update on the old tractor. I lust got a 1949 John Deere A.
@SuperTater007
8 жыл бұрын
pickup on the oil pump is stopping up with gunk is why it is getting tight. drop the pan clean it should be good to go :)
@tuhoturneri
10 жыл бұрын
maybe replace new motor oil next when you like screw up new filtter
@Tbear37144
10 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm for this project seems less than infectious.
@kaurkoop
10 жыл бұрын
hey, just wanted to ask you where do you take your old oil ? do you use a oil burner system or take it somewhere
@Mr.Badger69
4 жыл бұрын
Do you know if the pump got turned up on the tractor?
@mcleanfarmsryan3897
3 жыл бұрын
Man its fun going back in the videos once and a while
@justinjohnston8704
10 жыл бұрын
Is this possibly a restoration project?
@northstar2007
10 жыл бұрын
despite the oil issue it still sounds good, nice to see it runnin
@drennon1
10 жыл бұрын
First John Deere I ever drove was a 4320.
@roberthorvath807
10 жыл бұрын
ahogy az az ülés kinéz, én bele nem ülnék az biztos! Ez a traktor nagyon el van hanyagolva.
@vanamsgarage
10 жыл бұрын
What happened to the H in one of your old videos?
@04xb12s
10 жыл бұрын
How did we not know you have bison?
@clutchman1066
10 жыл бұрын
Why not cut open the oil filter & inspect contents?
@jasonbourne6323
9 жыл бұрын
Its not too tractor in a bad state sitting right there
@bovellois
10 жыл бұрын
I operated first a 3020, then in later years three different 4020s including one FWA. Loved everything about them, the look, the sound, shifting, ease of steering, angle of the steering wheel, high platform and seat... Best tractors ever made IMO.
@dw54451
10 жыл бұрын
Just have to love those synco shift JD had, always fun as kids to learn a new shift pattern when you went to your friends farms. We has IH with standard H-pattern another ran Deere's with power shift, power quads, and sycro's and the dentist's behind us had your favorite Oliver with the over under shift.
@trevorhorvath2112
10 жыл бұрын
Is the website up yet
@trentsmith3419
8 жыл бұрын
hey let me know if you ever want to sell it
@bigjohns21
10 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Love the sound of the old john deeres! How long have yall been quit milking? could you do a video of the inside of the barn and milking parlor?
@keithbrettell2058
10 жыл бұрын
Is that a Bison/Buffalo at 4:24?
@fordguy2001
10 жыл бұрын
whos buffalo is that?
@ratrodbubba
10 жыл бұрын
whats the story on the bison ??
@zachloduha7640
10 жыл бұрын
its a used car lot back there
@samdodson9721
10 жыл бұрын
I have a 4320, there great!
@tralinw
10 жыл бұрын
Love the 4320 that's probably the favorite on our farm too.. That old green iron last forever
@thomasjohnston243
10 жыл бұрын
Good to see you got the 4320 going again Wes! I hope you continue to work on it and get it put back into service again!
@kennethvanduzer6782
10 жыл бұрын
Hope you get to restore her
@jda1961
10 жыл бұрын
was that a buffalo at the begining of the ride?
@04xb12s
10 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one, thought I was going crazy! Def looked like a bison to me at 4:24
@buffranchAB
10 жыл бұрын
I bet
@farmkid9028
8 жыл бұрын
Ya she's old as crap
@31sambull
10 жыл бұрын
Love the old tractors!!! Looked like it was a nice smooth ride! Put the old girl back in to action
@l337pwnage
10 жыл бұрын
I spent most of my time checking out the Jeeps. ;)
@clayton5549
10 жыл бұрын
I like that old tractor plus we got a 3020 and that goes pretty well
@kylepullen9407
10 жыл бұрын
Is that a Farmhand F-258 loader bracket?
@onelonleyfarmer
10 жыл бұрын
Wow your good!!! Yes it is
@farmpower7830
10 жыл бұрын
Hope you can get the old girl figured out :)
@KellyHawkins
10 жыл бұрын
Good luck
@Grantmalsam
10 жыл бұрын
Can you make a vidio on the first field of soybeans
@TheHwnleatherguy
10 жыл бұрын
was that a buffalo???
@johnkramer7161
9 жыл бұрын
Yep. He has a buffalo
@blobby273
9 жыл бұрын
dont john deer have engine heaters ???
@sstroh08
8 жыл бұрын
they have block heaters but no preheat
@jeffreyhollink985
7 жыл бұрын
now the have but
@jeffreyhollink985
7 жыл бұрын
ah block heater dous not make it eseyer to stort
@geedubb2005
10 жыл бұрын
ether is like heroin, once they get use to it, they want it everytime. Crank the steering wheel back and forth while cranking, it works wonders. (from an old timer)
@LeonCollyer
10 жыл бұрын
We always had to do the steering waggle on our 4020 to help her out
@onelonleyfarmer
10 жыл бұрын
You must have seen me wiggle the wheel to get her going :)
@geedubb2005
10 жыл бұрын
I didn't see it. If I would've, I wouldn't have mentioned it.
@justinjohnston8704
10 жыл бұрын
Gee Dubb 'm curious how does that help?
@LeonCollyer
10 жыл бұрын
I guess it relieves some pressure on the hydraulic pump. On a related note, I remember the power steering disappeared when you were reversing carefully on the clutch. My dad still uses her regularly...
@MrRandom750
10 жыл бұрын
Was that a bison?
@buffranchAB
10 жыл бұрын
I think that there was a bison, or a cow that borrowed some clothes
@MrRandom750
10 жыл бұрын
didn't know he ad them on his farm.cows can be weird like that though..
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