I really appreciate your balanced review and your criticism is explained well and also put in perspective. Of course, no speaker is perfect, but you explain the performance relative to your expectations. Good stuff.
@hormazdirani1431
5 жыл бұрын
It is always fun to listen to your reviews. Thank you!
@itsmekenlai
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review and sharing your perspective. These are amazing from a price/performance standpoint and you review them with that context in mind which is not easy.
@changsu7384
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest review! I just ordered my ELAC Debut 2.0 7.1 system. So excited to hear how it sounds!!!
@drewmcauley8725
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great review and your honesty about your feelings and perceptions.
@sammavitae114
6 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent, thoughtful review. I appreciate that you gave your thoughts time to develop. You questioned what you were experiencing and checked that against what your friends experienced . And your comment on the impact of negativity in a review is right on. Very much appreciate that you are going to review them again with less expensive front end. Thanks.
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I will spend more time trying these speaker with different front end...just need to find time :)
@saugghos
5 жыл бұрын
‘Is it a problem with the speakers or is it a problem with me’ - very well said. I very often think same while testing speakers or even amps and wires.
@utjoseywales
6 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews, and how you're diligent to "fairly quantify" the differences between speakers such as the Elacs (which I own and love) and those that cost 5 times the price. It sometimes boils down to diminishing returns, especially if you don't have the front end components that you have (and few do). That said, you're fair in being up front about that fact, so I appreciate that and respect your reviews as one of my go-to's when looking into different audio options. Keep up the great work!
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
Glad you like those speakers. The more budget speakers I try, the more I appreciate them.
@Chapterrifik
4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo I'm undecided between the B5.2 and the B6.2 what are your thoughts on this.
@UnitedRedDevil13
3 жыл бұрын
CARLOS GOUVEIA debating these and the Dali Spektor 2. Testing both at home this next week.
@Pitbull0669
6 жыл бұрын
Great review and I appreciate your honesty because when I listen to most of the stuff in his series I feel the exact same way just crazy
@KingCrimson1981
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this awesome review. You've sold me on these speakers. I have seen multiple reviews of these speakers and while they are not perfect, everyone I've seen that reviewed them said for the money they sound fantastic. I have a pair of JBL S26 bookshelf speakers, and while they've served me well, I'm listening to vinyl now with a quality table and a detailed cartridge (Ortofon Red) and the JBL's are just too bright, bordering on harsh. I've heard these described as warm, yet retaining clarity. That's what I'm looking for!
@brydon10
5 жыл бұрын
Thomas - I got the speakers today and have everything setup. I am absolutely floored by them. The bass is perfect to my taste - punchy and accurate. there was more than I was expecting (which I'm happy about). I don't have a ton of speaker experience, but I have listened to many high end headphones. I can't believe how real everything sounds with these speakers. Having a fantastic time, your review was spot on. Take care!
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
Congrats and thanks for coming to my channel to leave me a comment. Appreciate it. Also, if you ever upgrade your front end, you will see these speaker will scale very well and their performance keep improving.
@hi-fihaven2257
6 жыл бұрын
Great work on the review. Great commentary, thanks for all the hard work that you put into your videos. Very glad to see a review on this speaker model.
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad people enjoy it.
@bobe3250
5 жыл бұрын
I own a full set of Eggleston Works speakers Andra, Rosa and center and cant wait to buy these Elac's. Thank you for the review.
@TastySanchez
6 жыл бұрын
Great review thanks for posting. I'm looking to pick these up but the 5.2
@Chiroman527
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent thorough and human honest review. I just got these speakers at a good price of $279. I see others got great bargains last year at $149 a pair. Wow. I listened to Sony CS (?) and Fluances Signature Series . These Elacs blew the Sonys right out of the water. Better than the Fluances (which are very good , but still not the caliber of the Elacs). I am so pleased that i came upon your review. And even more pleased that I got them. Keep up the good work
@pauleee54
16 күн бұрын
I have just bought these Elec 6.2,s and i have to say they have blown me away with the sound, and for the money they are exceptional value, I'm a very happy bunny
@sdtx1112
5 жыл бұрын
Great review. I paired these with an Emotiva TA-100 for a low cost entry level system and I couldn't be happier. Originally I had them placed on a table but when I put them on stands and about 18" from the wall, it made a huge difference despite them being front ported.
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
I hear some many nice things about Emotiva TA-100, I would love to get one to try too. Yeah, I don't use them close to the wall too when I had them.
@cruzingrsx4484
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review, well done.
@brydon10
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Just ordered a pair for a price I couldn't refuse.
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
Especially when they go on special.
@leapers124
4 жыл бұрын
Detailed and informative as usual
@RainbowCharade
4 жыл бұрын
interesting, and intriguing!! Would love to revisit these speakers with another review and comparison test...
@flyfisher1649
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review....waiting on mine this week & will be pairing them with a Denon PMA 600 NE Amp....70 WPC@4ohms....55WPC @6 ohms
@TrialDeNovo
6 жыл бұрын
I've had these for two months and have never heard the micro-distortion you mentioned. I've paired them with an inexpensive Yamaha RX-V671, and it's capable of driving them to adequate levels with no apparent distortion. I did add Elac's SUB3010 subwoofer which blends in nicely at a crossover of 80 Hz. I'm very pleased with this speaker system.
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, glad you enjoy them.
@Audfile
6 жыл бұрын
I like your reviews because you also have experience with speakers and systems costing multiple tens of thousands.
@thomasperron7804
3 жыл бұрын
This was a great review, very helpful to make a decision, thank you.
@Tearial311
Жыл бұрын
Same experience. When I first heard them, I was blown away!
@tedtimmis8135
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review!
@andtothewestamerica
5 жыл бұрын
"If they don't impress you, spend $10,000 ... and I guarantee you'll be impressed." LOL. I needed that.
@themastroiannis
4 жыл бұрын
would love your take on Q acoustics concept 20 and of course, the concept 500! love your reviews. thanks!
@vinny9875
5 жыл бұрын
This was a great, thorough review. I think I need to grab a pair!
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
They are only $149 when on special.
@vinny9875
5 жыл бұрын
Thomas & Stereo that’s an amazing deal!
@benpatrick4889
5 жыл бұрын
Just ordered these! Can’t wait! Thanks for the video 👍🏻
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up, let me know what you think.
@TADDs101
5 жыл бұрын
So, how do you like them?
@benpatrick4889
5 жыл бұрын
I’m really happy with them. Could use a sub for more bass-heavy music, but overall they sound fantastic.
@amazoidal
5 жыл бұрын
Now $300 a pair list. Black Friday half-price - $149 at Audio Advisor, Crutchfield and more. No shipping or tax. A bargain at $75 each. Unlike the UB5 at $500 list, Black Friday $349, which has smaller woofer and rear port which makes the Debut better for shelf mounting. I bought 4 for $300. I like more treble so I use an EQ and they sound really good.
@cdave2006
3 жыл бұрын
Nice price there, now at 350 at Audio Advisor. Currently 300€ in Belgium, gonna get them soon. Thanks for the complet review.
@califmike2003
5 жыл бұрын
Listen to them today in the Best Buy Magnolia Sound Room I was blown away I have to say I was blown away and I have to agree with you 100% the vocal clarity is absolutely amazing like the singer is in the room with you and there is pretty decent bass on them to you cannot go wrong for $299
@geraldcrook9504
Жыл бұрын
A very fair review Thomas . In the beginning i thought you did't like them that you were going to slate them. But after watching all the video i realised you just love sounds , And you probably have a good ear for quality sounds. So yes i can see were you are coming from. Still a very well portrayed video. many thanks Gerald south wales UK
@dsartain3404
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent and balanced review.
@ThomasAndStereo
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@brotherbrian5625
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review very nice
@adamforrest5346
4 жыл бұрын
Great review
@dtlastraightahead2133
5 жыл бұрын
amazing review
@robertomacabuhay2150
Жыл бұрын
I bought these speakers 2 months ago, hooked them to my Pioneer stereo receiver SX-10AE with specs less than .08% total harmonic distortion and made them my front speakers. Now that break-in period is over, it leaves me wanting for more dynamic sound that I expect to hear after a month of break-in. The tweeters are amazing, so clear I can hear cling clang sound and littlest sound details of instruments that seems like I'm watching the symphony orchestra perform right on the stage. The voices from the mid range stands out, its clarity is well defined but you are right I hear a micro distortion like a sandpaper sound when I raise the volume to high mid level. I play vinyl records of Nat King Cole, Frank Sinatra, Patsy Cline, Johnnie Mathis on my Audio Technica WN40 turntable, yes, I do hear the distortion, but I don't get bothered by it because I describe it as a reverb sound included in their recording. Not really sure if it 's coming from my receiver or my turntable or speaker. The base is clear very best appreciated when played at low volume but when played at a high mid volume that leaves me wanting for more dynamic hifi sound of the base. From my own listening point of view I rate these speakers at 4 stars. As a result I will move these speakers from the front to the back end and put back my Polk Audio S15 to the front. Oh BTW these speakers are awesome - I rate it at 5 stars.
@WelkySchullin
6 жыл бұрын
thanks for value review
@iwng54
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for reviewing an affordable pair of speakers. I do have a decent pair of floorstanding speakers with ribbon tweeters, amt midrange 3 woofers ( two eight and one ten inches) etc... but i am also always looking around for a pair of bookshelf speakers for my desktop computer. These days I am spending a lot more time on my desktop computer watching youtube channels like yours rather than listening to my full audio "grade" setup in my living room.
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
have u tried the ls50?
@McgarickWAstate
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas, I enjoy watching your candid and thoughtful videos. I have a suggestion too. Consider reviewing classic audio, I like to get legacy pieces and review them myself. I picked up a Hafler DH-220 power amp from offerUp and it's crazy good. I like it better than my CJ and Threshold amps....Just a thought! Peace.
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
i wish i started the channel earlier. i used to play with legacy gear in the beginning. i had the hafler pro 2400 at one point too. my friend does have a lot of vintage gear, one day i will go over to talk about a few.
@dangatton7138
3 жыл бұрын
GR Research took off the screen mesh and it improved the distortion a easy fix .. great review on them there. thx for yours. im sending for sale now 259.00 awsome !
@dangatton7138
3 жыл бұрын
what cables were you using for them?
@hugoarbucias5380
5 жыл бұрын
hi there , I have them and they sound amazing, i have a Cambridge Topaz 20 , Bluesound Node 2, and a Project Debut Carbon turntable.
@manzanaresantonio
5 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thomas I am a big follower of your videos. The way I describe These Elacs is "Giant Killers" . They don't look refined, but they sound refined. I used to play with highly modified 4x4's doing offorading and there was a car, the Suzuki Samurai that was only 1,500 to 3,000 USD and with min modifications. It did better offoroad than way more expensive trucks, Jeeps, land Rovers, Toyotas and Hummers. That's the same way I see these Elacs, they outclass way more expensive speakers. I see some negative comments once in a while from people that probably got cheated by buying way more expensive speakers! ;))
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. The Elacs definitely has changed the budget speaker world and am glad you liked them. If someone is looking a speaker in this budget, it's a no brainer.
@alanl2550
5 жыл бұрын
Got mine for $150 U.S. dollars. Excellent deal on great speakers!
@AyushP2014
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! Really loved it... Please also review the Wharfedale Diamond 225 Bookshelf speakers as they were highly recommended by Stereophile last year in 2017 as the best budget Bookshelf speakers! Would love to see how they perform in compare to the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2! 😊
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, looking for one 225 right now. Thanks for the feedback.
@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016
4 жыл бұрын
hi Thomas this review on the Elac everything was great ,just one thing missing , most of us preferred an audition please , we really looking forward to this !
@ThomasAndStereo
4 жыл бұрын
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@rajag3049
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and detail review.
@ThomasAndStereo
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@rothschildianum
4 жыл бұрын
I like this review!
@lev1625
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for so refinedly honest and considerate review! I'm new to the audiophiliac community. Could you give me an advice about what to look for when getting the cables for these ones without breaking the bank while doing the justice to the sonic potential of B6.2? Also, what amplifier could you suggest checking out that would pair up well with these speakers? The one being on the budget but without real caveats.
@puffdragon55
4 жыл бұрын
A D makes some great for the money speakers love his stuff sounds good and is affordable
@jshanker2005
Жыл бұрын
I come from the Logitech Z625. It is thumpy and loud. Voices sound like the singer has cupped his mouth while singing. I just bought the Elac B6.2 along with the Denon AVR-X250BT receiver. This is my first foray into a good quality music setup. Can't wait until Saturday !!
@jackallen6261
5 жыл бұрын
First I wish to thank you for a VERY no nonsense, very critical and informative review!! I get so tired of the snake oil salesman reviews that just say it costs 10k so it's good and it costs 500$ so it's shit reviews. I have a pair of ELAC B5 speakers and I am BLOWN away by them so I can only imagine the B6 is a serious step up!! Just subbed!! Thank you!!
@larsv6144
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Please make a sound demo. Preferably against KEF LS50 and Klipsch RP600M or ELAC Uni-Fi UB5
As mentioned before I have these speakers but in walnut color and hard to come by! Very rich looking! I have them driven by a Naim Nait 5si 60 watt integrated amp. My front end is an Arcam Ir dac using Kimber Silver Streak interconnects with Naim NACA A5 speaker cables sitting on 20" Pangea speaker stands. They sizzle! I think you can get every last note, etc when paring with a high current amp! Ultimately you can pair very inexpensive speakers with high quality amps and a get great sounding experience! But for me its always the amp first, speakers second!
@navidn1353
5 жыл бұрын
Thomas thanks for your great/honest reviews. I have decided to get Debut 6.2, and based on your advice and Audiophiliac, i need about 150w/ch amp @ 4 Ohm and a proper preamp. What front end setups you suggest for say $200, $300, $400. ( What did your mysterious friend with 2 phd's in use to drive this). Im from Montreal and would be happy to look for used setups as well on Kijiji or ebay. Thanks again
@erickyu1191
6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the normal system review! I've just started getting into the budget audiophile bandwagon with an emotiva basx a-100, ifi nano dsd black, and a pair of Polk rti4 bookshelves. I'm curious if the elac b6.2 would be a worthy upgrade from the rti4s.
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
Although I would guess that it is an upgrade, I would however suggest you upgrade to something way more if you want a super upgrade. A full tower would be better. Or at least the LS50 KEF.
@yannick930
4 жыл бұрын
I've heard the same distortion when cranking up the volume. It comes from the cheap parts in the crossover. I replaced all the capacitors and resistor and changed the internal wire buy ofc and ofc/silver for the tweeter. The distortion is gone. The bass has more definition and the sibilance is gone too. The top end is silky smooth. The drivers on this speakers are amazing. The voice is even cleaner. I'm using them with the Atoll In30 and a chord mojo as a dac.
@astroman269
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, would you care to list the parts you used? I might be interested in doing the same modifications to mine. Thanks!
@yannick930
4 жыл бұрын
@@astroman269 S.C.R. MKP PB capacitors : 1 x 82 µf, 1 x 22µf, 2 x 1.5 µf. 3R9 5W MRA05 Mills Resistor and 68R 5W MRA05 Mills Resistor. I didn't touch the 2 air core coils nor the iron core coil. Maybe in the future when i learn the maths for calculating the inductance and the ESR.
@ASSOpid
2 жыл бұрын
You are an idiot. Look up psychoacoustics
@amb3cog
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas. Another great video! You've really got me thinking about Elac speakers. I need to find somewhere that has some I can listen to. I don't think these would be the ones exactly, but maybe the Uni-Fi's would do. As I like a warmer sound. Either way. The review was very much appreciated. Hope all is well in your life. Best wishes to you, and yours.
@crispincrunch2453
6 жыл бұрын
The Uni-Fi UB5 has much tighter bass with no boom bloom and warmer still detailed but much less fatiguing tweeter than the B6. Not sure about the B6 version 2. The UB5 image like bandits several orders of magnitude better than the B6, and the soundstage is much bigger. The only caveat: the UB5 need a strong current 4ohm amp to really get them sounding their best.
@amb3cog
6 жыл бұрын
Crispin Crunch Thanks for the reply. Very much appreciated. I've been thinking about these for a while. I have the electronics already, and quite a few nice vintage speakers. But I've been thinking that I want to try something new, and I've been looking at these smaller speakers. So I bought a used pair of small ones to try. They're NEAR 15m's. Considered very nice, very neutral, and very revealing. Not really my cuppa, but figured for $85 it's worth a shot. Tried them on my setup with a audiophile type SS preamp, the Holographic Audio Pre 25. And my AVA Omega Star 250EX amp. Which sounded nice with my old KLH Model 33's, but I hated them. Very thin sounding. Then I tried them with a tube preamp, a lightly modified Bottlehead Quickie. And oh man. Wow! So now I'm more interested then ever in trying these. But I'm still unsure if I should go with the towers, or the bookshelves. I need to do more research on these, but that's fine. I'm not in a hurry at all. Because I use a low power tube amp in my room also, and don't have much space. I'm thinking I should get the bookshelves. That way I can put them on top of my other speakers. But I don't want to be lacking in the bass. So I'm still up in the air on it. But of course every bit of info helps, including your comment. And this review. Even though I'm probably not buying these. It was certainly nice to hear the bass was good on these. Gives me hope for the UB5. Especially after you saying they're tighter. That's what I like. Time to get Googling I think.
@crispincrunch2453
6 жыл бұрын
Trust me, the UB5 are not wanting for deep tight punchy musical bass. They easily dig deep into the 40Hz range. I got the bookshelf as a secondary to my reference system. Holographic Audio, wow. Sometimes people in Europe are so lucky.
@crispincrunch2453
6 жыл бұрын
Zero Fidelity here on KZitem gave the Holographic Audio stack (PRE 25 + AMP 17) a really good review, and he doesn't really like the sterile audiophile sound. However, in comparison I could see where the warmth of a DHT pre would be no match for Holographic Audio's ethos of neutrality. Is it the Holographic Audio PRE 25? I would love to buy it if you are ever going to sell it, especially if I could also find the AMP 17.
@amb3cog
6 жыл бұрын
Crispin Crunch Yup that's why I bought it. His was the only review I could find. And I'm a big fan of his channel. His review was spot on. But I'm fairly new to this. So I wanted to try a SS preamp (it's the only one I've owned), and I obviously seriously underestimated what I had already. I really a tube guy at heart, but want more power without spending a fortune. So I'm playing around to see what I like. And I've found I'm okay with SS amps when I have a tube preamp in front of it. Although I think I need to play around with my gear more. And I'm pretty sure I can get it to working to where I can enjoy it. But I must say. It's tempting to sell it. Only because there's so much other gear I want to try. It is really good though, and I'm not quite sure I've really given it a fair shake. I've only tried it with two of my speakers, and one amp. One DAC too. Let me think on that one. I'll get back to you in the next few days. I work all weekend, but have Monday off. So say by Tuesday at the latest. I'll let you know. I can post on here, or if you want to post your email on here maybe?
@iwng54
6 жыл бұрын
Pairing the MC452 to these affordable Elac, that is something i would totally do. I started my audiophile journey back in the days when people in audio forums were talking about building a system by choosing the amplifier first. Back then I thought that was insane. Sound comes form the speaker and that should be where I should start building my system around. Laws of physics! But after going through so many different brands of speakers, I wish that I started picking a good amplifier first.
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
i will touch on that topic one day and its interesting i kind of ended up doing the same....
@arpeemac
4 жыл бұрын
A Pathos preamp into a Mcintosh amp. These are top caliber equipment. I think any decent bookshelf speakers out there would sound great.
@parvezshaikhul
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Thomas Great review all your reviews are honest and great.Can you plz review Adante AS-61 bookshelf and also compare it with the other speakers in that ctegory that will be great. Thnx
@ThomasAndStereo
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I would love to get my hands on the Adante too
@53patsfan
6 жыл бұрын
So these are for anyone who does not want to spend $10,000 on a set of speakers, that means 99% of the population. What is bad for you, is once you hear something bad, YOU ALWAYS HEAR IT. The average person will not as you have a trained ear. I do not even know what MICRO-DISTORTION is!! GREAT REVIEW you are honest and have me convinced to buy them, even though I am not in the market for speakers. I am especially confident I will like them, and not expect them to be the last speaker I buy, but good enough for me in my bedroom. They seem to get most things right. THANKS
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
i think they have it at best buy, why not drop by and listen. they work amazing with high end frontend , but with normal frontend, it's just ok.
@audiogman5865
4 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering why they didn’t time align the drivers. Good review by the way. Thank you sir.
@TechEtrix
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Thomas, The issue you are having with distortion is interesting, as I can totally relate. I own the more expensive Elac Carina BS243.4 with an AMT, but I sometimes / often do experience distortion that truly nobody talks about or even realizes. After some months, I believe I can clarify something here: it's neither our hearing nor the others' hearing. The issue relies with height clarity and listener's tolerance for distortion effects in music. The Elacs are so precise and highly resolving towards their top end that they present micro distortion effects "loud and clear" that other speakers cannot reproduce or reproduce at a way lower level. Even when other speakers manage to resolve these effects, they played more smooth, which made the distortion effect sound like purposeful distortion instead of a technical issue. This has gone so far that I thought I'm going crazy with some songs, I even switched the L and R channels, my amp and re-checked my Topping D90 MQA DAC. However, those purposeful distortion effects are there with other speakers and my Sony MDR-Z1R headphones, but they are "overpronounced" on the ELAC speakers. So I assume this overall is a tradeoff to make for the incredible height clarity.
@bikdav
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review. I have heard that “micro-distortion” in other speakers. I think it has quite a bit more to do with the recording instead of the speakers (and amplifier).
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
I was actually able to reproduce it on the Sony SSCS5 but it was one track specifically on a cd with high res recording.
@floydloonie4880
5 жыл бұрын
I can't say I've ever heard that statement before... "If you are not WOWed by these speakers, go spend 10 grand on a front end (amplifier setup) and you will be impressed!" LOL!! That's one way to look at the situation I guess! I'm a new visitor to your channel, having been sent to your videos on the recommendation of another You Tuber that I enjoy watching. The fact that you even spend time considering the quality of these speakers, says a lot about the way they sound, when I take into account the relatively high end speakers that you spend most of your time listening to that beautiful McIntosh stack through. I'd love to hear what my Bob Carver Platinum series Amazing Loudspeakers would sound like when lit up by your McIntosh rig!!
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Welcome to my channel. Yeah, the mcintosh rig is nice. I have since moved on to other setup and can't wait to share those in a future video. These Elacs are very good and they scale very well. The better frontend you give them, the more better they perform.
@brendanlawton7518
6 жыл бұрын
Cool thank you Thomas. Compared to towers or much higher priced gear it's a little easier to push smaller speakers to their max. Possibly just being use to a certain volume or even the efficiency differences., Luckily with those amps. very little concern of clipping. Glad to hear you're surprised. Andrew Jones is a great designer. Plus most of his products are highly regarded all around Cheers.
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had his pioneer S3EX before and it was amazing. I want to try his Adante speaker now. I wish whoever try these debut will have enough good frontend to enjoy them else they will miss out on a pair of nice speaker.
@andrewcrain5461
6 жыл бұрын
High Thomas I've been looking at the elac floor standing with the ufi-driver they have them on Amazon for $999.00 a pair I'm gonna have to take a risk because of course there no shop around me that I can Actually listen to them and thats kinda my price that I can afford or that's all the money I want to spend on speakers at the moment....I really appreciate the fantastic review you did on this video keep up the great work when I get these elac I'll be back to tell you my thoughts on the floorstanding elac I should have them in 2 more weeks!!! Again keep up the great work your fantastic at reviewing and your choices of what your reviewing are great choices!!!! Its good to no that theres a affable Reasonably priced pair of speakers that Actually sound good!!!
@amb3cog
6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Crain Best Buy will match Amazon's price, and they sell Elac. But it has to be sold by Amazon themselves. 30 day returns there. Amazon will pay return shipping if you're not satisfied with the performance of them. I bought a tube headphone amp to try out as a preamp, and didn't like it. They paid return shipping. Just be clear about you not being satisfied. And call them to do the return, so you can be clear about this. But be aware. These companies are shutting down accounts of people that return too much stuff, due to fraud. It has to be a lot though of course, but many big dollar items will trigger it too possibly.
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, hopefully, it will have good synergy with your setup 😊
@hiu35
Ай бұрын
Thank You for this Video 🙏 Hi from India 🇮🇳
@geeknproud321
Жыл бұрын
My first step into audiophile sound was powered monitors. I had a pair of Edifier S1000DBs and a pair of JBL LSR305s. Both still really excellent values. So I started out a bit underwhelmed by these speakers but they were basically a "safe bet" placeholder I could build up a component system around. I wanted to build a setup to support much higher dollar speakers(~$1000+) in the future after I had time to trial a few pairs. However, as I added components the B6.2s came into their own. Especially when I got my Schiit Bifrost 2/Lokius/Jotunheim 2 stack and a NAD C316 amplifier which is super overkill for them. In the end, I liked them so much I ended up matching my system to support them instead of them being a stand-in for something better. After removing the super restrictive grills and adding a subwoofer, they're easily enough to satisfy my audio needs. Their transparency and clarity was awesome for picking out my components BTW. I've got maybe ~$2000 in gear supporting a $400 set of speakers and I don't want to give them up now, lol. Trickle down technology works out sometimes. And yes, the grills are very restrictive on these particular speakers and Alex Jones himself says he voices his speakers without them. You can hear the difference immediately just moving the grill back and forth over the speaker face. The already grilled tweeter is pretty telling as to the intended design of the speaker. The walnut versions look fantastic with the grill removed BTW. For the money there definitely isn't anything better, and I'd argue they compete pretty well above their price point. I'd be considering these vs a $500-600 pair of speakers as well.
@ThomasAndStereo
Жыл бұрын
I am glad you have experienced what I have experienced with them.
@tomhamilton6377
4 жыл бұрын
Rarely see reviews and comparisons of vintage speakers with newer ones. Would love to hear your opinion on jbl l1 bookshelf compared to modern speakers like elac etc. Pair of Used jbl l1 can be found for around $300.
@longmuskox4194
6 жыл бұрын
8:45 I hear imperfections in some audio tracks with my B6's. These imperfections stand out or even disappear depending on the source/quality. The only thing about these imperfections that bother me are static, crackles, pops, and other similar sounds that are usually subtle background sounds with other speakers, but tend to stand out with the B6. I've heard some relate it to studio monitor speakers, but the closest I can relate it to would be electrostatic speakers except not to that extreme. I feel it's more the recording than the speakers. I'm extremely impressed with them no matter what type of music I listen to, and whether it be quiet or loud. Definitely my bargain of the century!
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to B6 or B62? In my case, the recording I am using are the newer super clean one that I don't hear any issue with my other 5 speakers. I think it could be the material used in the woofer as I do hear some micro distortion with my other speaker that is made of kevlar. Someone pointed out in a comment and it got me thinking.
@longmuskox4194
6 жыл бұрын
I'm referring to B6.2. I gifted my aunt my old B6.1 set. She placed the B6.1's inside a solid wood entertainment center below her TV. The speakers are enclosed with the rear port firing back inside the enclosure. It sounds like more hard-hitting bass than I remember at home with her enclosure. Side by side at home the B6.2 sounded like it had stronger bass, but the B6.1 sounded more capable without distortion and cleaner sound with lower frequencies close to 40hz. It could have been the fact that the B6.2's had not been fully broken in yet. I do distinctively remember how the B6.1's sounded better after they had a good 40-50 hours of medium to high-level sound put through them.
@longmuskox4194
6 жыл бұрын
*Is the BBC dip still used in speakers?* kzitem.info/news/bejne/pIOV3XWKbaRzfpw
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I saw that, really great video.
@longmuskox4194
6 жыл бұрын
I thought that maybe the concept discussed by Paul in that video could explain the distortions you may be hearing. This other video by Paul explains better what I was referring to in respect to bad recordings rather than poor sounding speakers. *What can be done to better recordings?* kzitem.info/news/bejne/xHemmZ55i3Roepg
@danbalkey2580
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks love your review of these o by the way they sell for 244.00 on Amazon brand new
@ThomasAndStereo
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Darn, they are giving it away.
@victorjohnson7512
11 ай бұрын
I play mine through a (used) Niles A/B 75wpc power amp and it's fantastic.
@cybergod77
6 жыл бұрын
nice review....will be good to incorporate a few sound demos
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
I will in the kef ls 50 vs elac future video
@petertys
3 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews. Which one is meet the audiophile level triangle borea br03 or Debut 2.0 B6.2 ?
@johnkenneally6283
5 жыл бұрын
Great review. How $400 speakers sound with a low/mid receiver seems like it is the main issue relative to how most will use them
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
yeah, it sounds just ok with a normal frontend. Thanks.
@wayneenterprise463
Жыл бұрын
One of the best $300 I've spent. Beautiful sound!
@citycafe291267
3 жыл бұрын
hi Thomas. you are right, this speakers has micro distortion on treble, i have a new pair, bought last week , for certain music, example: James Black, i felt sometimes a distortion when the highs are very pronounced. But They are a awesome speakers, not for the price, but they really exceptional , more transparent, more tridimensional than Kef Ls50 and i hope with more time the bass improve.
@philosopher0076
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Impressive speakers it seems. Question: Could I these be driven well enough with only a 50 watt Yamaha stereo reciever? It eould be for my friends very small studio apartment and she doesn't play music very loudly. I want to give them...and the budget Yamaha reciever...to her for Christmas. Thank you for any feedback.
@johnsanders9688
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the technical as well as personal review. Could you please provide a follow up with some listening material, i.e. jazz, rock, acoustic, etc with the Arcam all in one vs 300 watts say from McIntosh for example? I have a simple set up with Naim Nait 5si, Arcam IR Dac, using Kimber Kable throughout my system with older PMC speakers but want to have a smaller bedroom system.
@ThomasAndStereo
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry John, I sold my Elac already so I no longer have it. I would say, the Elac scales very well. The better gear and more good watt you give it, the better it is.
@dab505279
5 жыл бұрын
Dear Thomas, you make exceptional video. You may not have this question before. How high from the floor can you place these speakers? Could I place one speaker on either side of a TV on chests about 4 ft. tall?
@dtv266
5 жыл бұрын
I love stand mount speakers.
@JerryWDaviscom
5 жыл бұрын
Thomas, I understand what you mean by the micro-distorts at 9 minutes. Like you, I have a discerning ear, and sometimes the distortion will also switch to the B speakers. It is possible that we occasionally hear the limitations of a given microphone, and not a given driver, but the driver reproducing the distortion is simply doing its job (and why I prefer fabric tweeters). I wish the producers would always provide microphone data, if only for voice, so that we could begin to ferret out the sources of that edge-of-hearing burble.
@jackdanyal4329
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you! BTW, which one you can advice? this ones or Heco Victa Prime 302?
@ThomasAndStereo
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I never heard the 302.
@MulksBikes
2 жыл бұрын
I'm building an audiophile setup as a beginner, and I've narrowed down my speaker choice to these and the Klipsch rp-500m. I assume the obvious choice is the Klipsch, but I keep seeing these pop up. What's your choice? One of these two , or perhaps something else?
@miken9449
5 жыл бұрын
Now on sale for $149 a pair at selected retailers (for Black Fri I'm guessing). Just got mine today at BBuy. Sound great for price. Remind me of my old Small Advents!
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed them and you got yourself a great deal.
@sudd3660
6 жыл бұрын
its the wire mesh grill that's the problem, one reviers manage to remove it and it had a positive effect. look it up and see how it works out for you.
@nox1cous654
4 жыл бұрын
The grills are there for a reason, they were voiced with them.
@user-mc1eg3oq5o
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir. Is the Elac's B6.2, as a part of the 'Ps Audio' bundle offer, 999US$ Retailed (with the Spruce100 versatile digital int.amp & cables) is really may consider as 'Budget Hi-End grade' setup ? My current setup is the Mistral Audio(Napa Acoustic brand in the US: MM-6 hyb.int.amp with internal usb dac + the Reg-565 floorstanders).. thank's!!
@cmpentertainment4388
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, great review. Wondering if these might be considered to replace my older Monitor Audio GS10’s. (Book shelf) Currently using a Emotiva XPA200 as front end, Emotiva preamp, older Arcam CD73 CD player, Mac Mini streaming mostly FLAC
@ThomasAndStereo
5 жыл бұрын
No, It would not be an upgrade. Your GS10 are very good and it might sound different these speaker but I think your speakers are over $1k while these are like $279?
@dpfreedman
5 жыл бұрын
Dunno why, but these speakers are currently (Nov. 18, 2018) on sale everywhere (in the US) for a ludicrous $150/pair. I wasn't shopping for speakers but, at this price, who can resist? My just-purchased pair is now ready for pick up at my local Bestbuy.
@fantom29comp
5 жыл бұрын
David, i got my speakers from Crutchfield for around 300. They went on sale for 150.00. They refunded me the difference but i was like you, why are they doing this. At this price i can buy some for the garage as well. Ive got to buy a new 2 channel integrated amp. Thinking of NAD 326BEE. Cheers
@ajawalkure
5 жыл бұрын
Don't doubt your ears and intuition.
@lakatster
5 жыл бұрын
These are currently $299.99 CAD on Amazon right now, and I can’t sleep because I want to buy them (but don’t need them). I currently have PSB Alpha B1s, which to me are already wickedly good - I’m only a budget audio fan.
@lakatster
5 жыл бұрын
Forgot to say thank you for the detailed review.
@HoomanR17
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this review. I'v been watching your videos and its really helpful to get your perspective given that you frequently listen intimately to "high-end" gear and can provide a unique perspective on "budget" speakers. This is really from the left field, but on a different youtube channel (zero fidelity) reviewed the Sony CORE SS-CS5 ($120 a pair) speakers enthusiastically and agreed with one of the reviewers who shared this: "Interesting review ....in the past 3 years I’ve owned the Pioneer (BS22’s) and Elac Debut 5’s,6’s and UB5 ....and for the last month a pair of these Sony bad boys. There is definitely something special going on with a bizarrely huge soundstage and spooky imaging emanating from these cheap looking Sony boxes...I prefer them even to the UB5 which has better bass albeit a tad slower but cannot match the top end clarity of the Sony or those crazy imaging properties Sony designed into the SS CS5.....great fun !" I'm wondering if you had any thoughts about it or would consider reviewing it? Sounds almost too good to be true, a $100 pair of sony speakers, better than Elacs? Just trying to make sense of it all !
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
i saw that video too and have been searching for the tower version actually. they never once show up on the used market :(. given you owned them and give them such good review, now this has really make me want to get it.
@HoomanR17
6 жыл бұрын
Thomas Hi. I have not owned them. I was just surprised by the review and the video comment in relation to the Elacs. Given the types of gear you've listened to, including $100K plus system and you seem to appreciate Elac entry level speakers - I find your ear as a nice gauge since I'm in the market for audiophile listening at the lower cost spectrum and have been wondering whether to buy the Sony or Elac..never listened to either. Any experience with Vincent Audio entry level hybrid integrated amp (SV500) as a recommendation to pair with Elac?
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
I don't have experience with Vincent but wish it had more power
@HoomanR17
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight.. based on it, I decided to forego the Vincent and got a good deal on a Hegel H80. Next purchase will be deciding between the Sony and the Elac family.
@ThomasAndStereo
6 жыл бұрын
I was looking at the Hegel H80 actually during the weekend as one showed up on the used market for $1300. Have you gotten it yet? If yes, any good?
@robladw2332
4 жыл бұрын
You should review the JBL Studio 530. JBL has recently brought back the studio 5 line and have not really got the credit they deserve.
@maze400
Жыл бұрын
I am replacing my center channel and was wondering how this would pair with my front (Wharfedale Valdus 400SE) speakers. Amp is an AVR, Onkyo NR7100 is a 5.1 configuration.
@johnpolizzio2583
5 жыл бұрын
I purchased a pair of these on this past Christmas day for $150 delivered from amazon. A/B with my towers in my LR and the Elacs sound better. Better detail and precision, and solid bass reproduction. Now use the Elacs 6.2s at my desktop pc and a mini Fosi amp with bass boost (read 2-3 feet from my ears). No need for a sub....they flat out ROCK. I'd buy another pair for 150 in a heart beat, but I guess I'll have to wait to next Christmas.
@johnpolizzio2583
5 жыл бұрын
And to add Elac site states bass to 44hz, but they will easily go down to 30hz utilizing test tones at my pc. Down a few decibels @ 30hz no doubt but the 6.2s are so sweet sounding overall. I have owned Klipsch towers but horns are harsh, much prefer the Elac 1" cloth dome tweeter and wave guide.
@leomignonneau1765
4 жыл бұрын
@@johnpolizzio2583 wait!?? what, 150? How?
@johnpolizzio2583
4 жыл бұрын
@@leomignonneau1765 They were on sale @ amazon. It was after Christmas sale. I purchased them 12/27/18, just looked up receipt. $150 delivered...super deal. Elac has on their website occasional B stock sales too, returns I believe. Great way to score a deal also.
@johnpolizzio2583
4 жыл бұрын
@@leomignonneau1765 -- elacdeals.com/
@celestial_sound
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing with us @Thomas! According to stereophile lab results www.stereophile.com/content/elac-debut-b6-loudspeaker-measurements this speakers are not heavy load for the amp. The measurements reveals that the minimum magnitude is 6 ohms and that the impedance remains above 8 ohms for almost the entire audioband. Despite its low sensitivity, this speaker will be very easy for amplifiers to drive! Also, the electrical phase angle is high only when the impedance magnitude is also high meaning that this will be a very easy load for the partnering amplifier to drive.
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