Enjoyed the video. I run an Echo 2500 and love it. It's meant to be a limbing saw. It is light and well balanced....a joy to use. I limb all day, cutting up to 8-9" wood, no problem. I think you're expecting too much from the Stihl. No matter what they say, it's not equal to a 201. I'm sure it would be a fine limbing saw with lighter battery. My echo is not as powerful as the Husky or Stihl, but it is lighter and better balanced (12" bar). I rarely go to my second battery. Nice.
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Yes, maybe I did expect too much, but it seems weaker than the Milwaukee saw i got right now. They should have just made a lighter saw to suit a different market. At least the echo has that going for it, Thanks for watching. Be safe 🤙
@Joshman5000
Жыл бұрын
It’s Stihl a nice saw pop daddy! Can’t wait for you to show us the performance with that bigger battery and do a comparison. Stay safe brother!
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Ya, I definitely will do that, jman. You be extra safe this year, and I will too, brotha 🤙
@krkev
Жыл бұрын
its a climbing saw ment for pruning hence a 12inch bar only! not ment for logging! ffs as an ex climber in the UK I would have loved this saw on my day.
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Ya, it ain't that great for climbing either, I'd way rather the 2511t. It could be the battery as well, though. I'm gonna do another video when I get the 500s battery's, but in my opinion, the power to weight ratio is terrible
@owain1996
Жыл бұрын
The way you can't use the throttle without pressing that button everytime looks annoying. Why they didn't do it like the husky where it's like a normal saw I don't understand.
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
I guess it's just a safety feature,
@owain1996
Жыл бұрын
@@PoplarMechanic imagine peeling a branch in, and then you go to severe it off but you've waited beyond the few seconds and as you go to severe it...the saw is off. Just seems like poor thinking. I'm a big fan of the husky 540i 👍
@metaspencer
Жыл бұрын
I cheaped out and got the Echo battery saw -- doesn't seem as gourmet but I still like running it on smaller jobs. Cool to see your thoughts man
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! I think the echo is a lot lighter as well, I may look into it, and I'll do a video when I get the 500s in it! Be safe this year brotha 🤙
@sirvozelo1
Жыл бұрын
@@PoplarMechanic I have the 220C in the 2 hands configuration and I also have 4 AP500S batteries but I only use the AP500S if I run out of the AP300S batteries, to me the 220C feels better balanced with AP300S. Normaly the AP500S I use themes on the MSA300 and on the Trimmer 135.
@johnpowers666
Жыл бұрын
I think the 500s battery helps but also found when you tighten the captive nut it also makes chain even tighter… so you have to leave chain a little loose to compensate for when you tighten the captive nut
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Good to know, thanks, I still don't have the 500s available here
@jimssawsnstuff8903
Жыл бұрын
@poplarmechanic. Hey man, too bad Stihl and Husky are having such a hard time with supply chain issues. We switched to the Echo top handle battery saw last spring and won’t look back. They had a promotion on so it came with a second free battery, which is essential for any battery tool. Anyhow it has great ergonomics, a translucent oil tank so you can visually check it, adjustable oiler, plus a good fastener for your lanyard. It’s a compact design with way better power than the husky or Stihls for the weight. Hope you can try one. If you’ll be coming to cow town, give me a heads up, like to meet you and I’ll get some demo saws for you to check out plus show you my shop. Take care man.
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I appreciate the input. The light chainsaw at least serves a purpose. There is no point in me carrying the extra weight if I'm not going to be able to cut fast and efficiently through big wood. Also, I will definitely give you a shout when I head to calgary, we go there quite frequently, looking forward to trying the echo and seeing your shop. Thanks, man 🫡
@stihlms400cm3
10 ай бұрын
The AP500S battery will give you 40% more cutting time, it does not increase the power of the motor, it increases cutting time only, hope that helps,
@PoplarMechanic
10 ай бұрын
I appreciate that. I've moved on from this, and I am going to get the Milwaukee top handle soon. I put a smaller bar on the stihl, and it is OK, but it's still not very good imo.
@stihlms400cm3
10 ай бұрын
I hear you, good luck with Milwaukee, l run a 12 inch B&C on MSA 220 TCO, for medium pruning work, love the no idle noise convenience, it’s really not on par with MS 201 TCM, it’s closer to MS 194 TC in my opinion, l do love it though for that specific purpose, l have two AP300S batteries on hand, gets through a fair share of work in fairness, greetings from Ireland !!!
@PoplarMechanic
10 ай бұрын
@stihlms400cm3 I'll do a video on the Milwaukee once I get it. I've actually been running my 194 with mods and a 1/4 pitch chain. It's actually impressive and nice for pruning cuts. Be safe, brotha 🤙
@sirvozelo1
Жыл бұрын
I never run with one of thoes but I think I with prefer my 161T, and if on top of a tree I use one AP200. This model and and using one AP300S sure with be heavy for one hand use. To use on the ground then I use the MSA300 or the 220C two hands regular model much more handy and easier to use.
@jackberdine
Жыл бұрын
id like to see how it would run with the '500' battery and a 12 inch bar
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
I'll test that out in the next video!
@McTree2013
Жыл бұрын
I still think the t540i xp is the top battery saw. The stihl looks nice tho..
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Although I haven't run the husky, I believe you're right. The specs on paper do look similar with that 500s, but I'll do another video when I find out
@McTree2013
Жыл бұрын
I look forward to the next one! Thanks for sharing brotha!
@Sethhaun78
Жыл бұрын
Just get the husky ..have someone mail u one..sell that thing
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
@@Sethhaun78 I'm looking at the Milwaukee top handle now 😆
@TheToolnut
7 ай бұрын
A 16" is too much bar for this saw. Put a 12" on it and it will suit it much better. This saw is for pruning or blocking down small to medium stems. Don't expect it to do something is isn't designed to do. Battery tools definitely have a place in our industry.
@PoplarMechanic
7 ай бұрын
I put a shorter bar on it now. It's better, but I still don't like it too much lol
@TheToolnut
7 ай бұрын
@@PoplarMechanic Good man, you were trying to make an apples v oranges comparison. Battery gear definitely has its advantages over petrol. One can start earlier in the morning in a residential area. There's very little maintenance, no pull starting in the tree and no migraines at the end of a Day after breathing in two stroke fumes all Day. Battery kit isn't there to compete with petrol kit. They are meant to compliment one another. You match the kit to the job, not the other way around. I admire your work Sir and you have a great channel. God bless, mind yourself up there, 👍💪💪🪓🌲🇨🇦🇮🇪
@PoplarMechanic
7 ай бұрын
@TheToolnut you make some good points! I do appreciate the input. Be safe, brotha 🤙
@TheToolnut
7 ай бұрын
@@PoplarMechanic 👍😁💪🪓🌲🇨🇦🇮🇪
@Pat19997
Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that the 500s will last longer but not increase power. Is it true that the 220t series should not be used at ground level? For ground level I believe the 220c is recommended.
@Rossted_gp
Жыл бұрын
Maybe I should have tried it out with the 500 battery as well. I was asked if i would like to test it out, so I did. I had the 300 batteries, that I normally use in my msa161t. they work great there! In overall i wasnt impressed. But, just like you say, it maybe because of the battery
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'll test it out as soon as I can get it
@sirvozelo1
Жыл бұрын
I have all batteries from AP200 to AP500S however on the 161T I very much only use the AP200 it feels better balanced.
@peterdudgon3830
Жыл бұрын
nice but i love my 201t s
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@stevethompson4783
Жыл бұрын
I've been running the husky 540ixp and have been really impressed the last 2 years. Has as much power as my 540 gas. I looked at the stilh battery power a few weeks ago and was impressed. Not so much now lol would like to see them side by side. Good luck with it stay safe and healthy 👊 👍🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦👍👍
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input, Steve. I appreciate it, I'll throw up a video as soon as I get the 500s, be safe, brotha 🤙
@stevethompson4783
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to it. Been busy haven't commented for awhile now but still watching. Thanks for sharing stay safe and warm 👍👍👍
@stephentree3466
Жыл бұрын
Big heavy awkward underpowered lump. Ported 2511 all day for me
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Ya my ported 2511 cuts circles around this thing
@neekniggit3606
Жыл бұрын
A 40% increase would make a huge difference. We'll see. 👍
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Ya, I really hope that's the case, I waited a while for this saw. Thanks for watching 🤙
@gregbrown9271
Жыл бұрын
About what I expected little more time we'll see
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
For sure, I will make the video as soon as I can get the battery! Thanks for watching Greg 🤙
@jaythe306snowmexican
Жыл бұрын
I know battery powered saws is probably the future, I'm still not sold on them. I still like my gas powered saws better. Awesome video brother 👍🏻
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Me too, Jay, they are neat to have, but in my opinion, they have a long way to go, thanks for watching 🤙
@chrisb4419
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review I have the same sort of performance from my Makita 36V top handle. It bogs a bit. It's not bad for the price though, especially if you already have loads of their batteries. The little 18V Makita is excellent for pruning super light, and I have topped firs with it
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Chris, the guy in Calgary I bought my stump grinder from sells those makitas, they are light and would be great for pruning, this stihl just seems like a heavy pos right now 😆, thanks for watching 🤙
@hollylarsen1932
Жыл бұрын
That's awesome 😊.
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Holly! I know it's not a dyson, but you endured the video lol, thanks for watching
@hollylarsen1932
Жыл бұрын
@@PoplarMechanic that's funny 😆. I enjoy all your videos Dustin. I haven't fallen asleep through any of them, so you must be doing something right lol.
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
@@hollylarsen1932 😆
@hollylarsen1932
Жыл бұрын
@@PoplarMechanic we have to be related 😬😆
@mattwood9981
Жыл бұрын
🤙🏼🤙🏼
@PoplarMechanic
Жыл бұрын
🤙
@theaxeman4429
Жыл бұрын
Would you say this saw is Designed to be running 16” bar and be cutting wood that size..? 😅🤣🤦♂️
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