I got a deal through work that allowed me to get an i9-9900kf for $210 usd, had to jump on it
@jimglass4513
4 жыл бұрын
buy it
@Axisoflords
4 жыл бұрын
@@jimglass4513 He did :)
@gertjanvandermeij4265
4 жыл бұрын
Oh no .... Don't you know that Intel sucks ?
@danz00
4 жыл бұрын
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 show me an AMD processor for $210 that performs better 🤔
@hjembrentkent6181
4 жыл бұрын
nice
@MarcoGPUtuber
4 жыл бұрын
1:57 I love Tech YES American Wrestler Accents!
@pacifiststormtrooper8839
4 жыл бұрын
More or less than the cute taiwanese girl at the service centre you took Bryan too?
@MarcoGPUtuber
4 жыл бұрын
@@pacifiststormtrooper8839 Lmao. She usually just speaks Chinese to me. I don't think she speaks English all that much. I went back lately to get some GPUs RMA'd. I always tell her you guys say hi.
@brykit1972
4 жыл бұрын
OH YEAH!!!!!!
@WarriorsPhoto
4 жыл бұрын
I got a kick out of that as well. (:
@TheCatpirate
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine in 2 or 3 years when Threadripper will be in this category. You can already get some of those first gen CPUs much cheaper than MSRP, with an upgrade path of 32 cores!
@cometxp
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Threadripper has multiple NUMA nodes, yeah it is 32 cores, but its shared upon multiple NUMA nodes. Yet most software aren't NUMA aware and therefore unable to use the full potential of the Threadripper. And since its a lot of cores, the base and boost clocks will be significantly reduced which would cut the performance even more. And not to mention here, zen although its great, its has a worse single threaded performance.
@Zellonous
4 жыл бұрын
@@cometxp not anymore
@cometxp
4 жыл бұрын
@@Zellonous i said most buddy, not all
@LinkStorm13
4 жыл бұрын
more like 5 years... but remember threadripper 1st and 2nd gen were *absolute garbage* for gaming threadripper 3000 changed the game drasticly but it will take a few more years for it and its motherboards to come down in price than 1st and 2nd gen TR
@cometxp
4 жыл бұрын
@@LinkStorm13 yeah man single threaded performance on the 1st/2nd gen threadripper is bad
@twopointo536
4 жыл бұрын
mate im on ali express x99 right now..... cause of you lol! best bang for buck bro your a champ!
@ehtherebudski1768
4 жыл бұрын
Same bro
@ehtherebudski1768
4 жыл бұрын
@nunya this guy tho actually is trying to help people
@8iosatlost209
4 жыл бұрын
X99 has become very cheap, CPUs and mobos, remebembering how expensive the CPus were not long ago.I saw a brand new Core Extreme 5960X for 100€. It was in an unused workstation, never aktive but testet. 5960 X is possible for 150€, or you have to have luck. But this morning i saw a bundle of an intel X58 Desktop board together with an Core i7 Extreme Edition 980X. It startet with 50€. I love intel Desktop boards. There are DX79 TO Desktop boards for 50€. They don´t have the vrm cooler at the top, i think that it could be cooler without it. They have a lot of this boards. But the Intel x79 Desktop boards never get an Ivybridge Biosupdate. They work but they aren´t supportet by Intel. But with an E5- 1660, mobo and CPU for 110€ together it is a nice thing, i think.
@twopointo536
3 жыл бұрын
@@8iosatlost209 im on e5 2649 v3 10c 20th with 16gb ddr3 server ram on nvme seagate drive. Two refurb asus r9 290x oc. Ive sspent 400 tops aud.
@twopointo536
3 жыл бұрын
@EhThereBudski well not this aussie legand
@ahmadhalabiah3714
4 жыл бұрын
Please what Happened with Turning $100 into a HIGH-END Gaming PC
@Quicksilver-7791
4 жыл бұрын
WaIT CoViD Is a ThInG
@MrGunzoller
2 жыл бұрын
1680v2@4.5GHz still has good gaming performance. BTW, your pop-filter's on weird looking position 😉
@NextMerckx
4 жыл бұрын
Bryan you forgot the best use case for used price:performance - tossing it into a Dell Precision or HP Z and using Intel XTU to overclock it! $100 T3610 or T7610 plus $150 1680v2 at >4GHz with some cheap 14900R memory is a budget MONSTER.
@techyescity
4 жыл бұрын
I will have to check this out next time I get one.
@NextMerckx
4 жыл бұрын
@@techyescity 1650 v2 actually might make more sense from a value perspective. At ~$75USD they’ll reliably hit 4.2GHz all-core on the Precisions, and put up Cinebench R15 scores in the mid-1100s with cheap quad channel! I’ve put together several of them as very cheap Ryzen-chasers. There’s a thread over on the TechPowerUp forums for Throttlestop (and XTU) overclocking workstations, with some spectacular results.
@doesitgame
3 жыл бұрын
@@techyescity Enter proof of concept: kzitem.info/news/bejne/qK2JzZd6amSLrHY A lost-the-silicon-lottery 1650 v2 clocking in over 1050 in R15 at 4.2GHz. I suspect the 425W and 685W power supplies will trip over-current, but the optional 1300W doesn't complain.
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
@@NextMerckx Agreed. The cooling and airflow on these OEM chasses is IMO not up to snuff when it comes to the heat from an OC'd E5-1680v2. A E5-1650V2 is an excellent choice and at today's prices is a price/performance gem. At 4.2Ghz, these babies run stable and will last. Sure, they can hit 4.5Ghz+ with decent cooling, but on a low cost second-hand OEM desktop server, they are the perfect choice for an all-arounder that can do Hi 1080P gaming. Pair it with a RX 580 8GB and you have a little beast on the "cheap".
@moose2706
3 жыл бұрын
I've got an old precision t3600 with a e5 1620 that I'm having a ton of fun playing around with loll
@CarlCoxx77
3 жыл бұрын
got a X99 UD4 running a Xeon 2690 V3 on it with Turbo Unlock and 103MHz Blck @3.6GHz in total and its a beast and i payed only 200 Bucks for it ^^
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
GR8 deal.
@khanscombe619
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a long time Tylersburg X58 OC'r & loved it but I had to admit, even 1st gen Sandy Bridge (E5-1660) was nice improvement on my trusty ASUS P9X79-E WS & DDR-2400 Cl10. 4.3Ghz out the box XMP with TPU enabled. i was like wow! but then onto the 1690-v2. My mobo never officially supported it but it works w/ BIOS v1203 - 1704. But for us blokes who did drop some quid on this, make use of it (£1,200). It's tempermental on mine but OC's fair & temps not bad coming from a 4.6Ghz 1660 on air. I agree, Keeping these CPU's u over 4.2 needs a good mobo and power control & cooling. i'm impressed to add that even at a respectful 4400 daily that ASUS S4/S4 works. Never did on any of X58's (REII/IIIE, P6X58-E WS & P6T WS) at anything out of a mild OC. Simple featue we take for granted.
@belther7
4 жыл бұрын
those old xeon are awesome for cheap builds, one that I love is the Xeon E5-2689, it's old, X79, DDR3, but it's very cheap compared to the alternatives
@johntiles
4 жыл бұрын
Brian it's the era of ryzen, this isn't worth it
@MarcoGPUtuber
4 жыл бұрын
And soon once there are good values on X170, X299 Xeons, we'll get videos on those too.
@MarcoGPUtuber
4 жыл бұрын
@rek Yeah. I know him in real life. We did a couple videos together in June 2019 when in Taiwan.
@LawrenceTimme
4 жыл бұрын
Missed the point completely. Ryzen is most boring thing to oc ever, xeons are fun to oc. This is for the fun not the performance.
@Quicksilver-7791
4 жыл бұрын
@@LawrenceTimme not to mention price
@LawrenceTimme
4 жыл бұрын
@@Quicksilver-7791 the price to fun ratio depends on if you can get a deal with used parts.
@quakecon2009
Жыл бұрын
Great video, as someone who only has a 1650 xeon in his X79 (as of today!), I am very tempted to give the system a last squirt of life before I retire her under the bed as I can pickup this 1680 v2 CPU for 85 dollars now. Its basically the best CPU that you can buy for the X79. Money is tight atm and I only have a 6gb rtx, but I think if I upgraded to the 1680 V2 and give its a mildISH overclock, I would have 70 percent better benchmark scores AND if I trade in this GPU and update it for something with 8GB and add a 100 dollars or so maybe 2080 super or 6600 xt or 6650 xt) (I'm british but speaking in dollars) I could have a nice boost to my system for about 175 dollars, which seems much more appealing that spending close to 1000 to do a proper upgrade. My 1650 does about 8000 in passmark, the 1680v2 in stock form does about 12800. (cpu benchmark DOT NET) With a fairly mild overclock, that should be possible to up to about 14500-15000, which is nearly double my existing CPU. Add in another 25% on the GPU and I honestly think for less than 200 dollars and no hassle I could be rocking the X79 platform for a fair bit longer. With the amount of graphic options in games, you can actually turn a lot of the effects down and still retain good FPS and lose not a lot of quality. The obvious route is to move onto ryzen or something, I get it probably makes more sense (lower TDP), but I like the idea of showing a bit of loyalty to the system that has served me so well for 10 years now and not spending much to get a decent boost right now. Thanks for the 1680 v2 vids, you defo convinced me to consider going there, even at the start of 2023. If I can hold back as long as possible on the upgrades so when I do the big upgrade I can get the much newer stuff like AM5 and hopefully have a system which will serve me for another 10 years, minus the 4-5 year GPU upgrade.
@Trick-Framed
4 жыл бұрын
TECH YES!!!!! x79 x RTX 3090! ! ! And this is why I LOVE this channel!!!!
@car1o
3 жыл бұрын
true!)
@johnstevens7049
Жыл бұрын
great analysis!
@lapptech
4 жыл бұрын
For $150 it's not worth imho, for around $80 it could be. I'm looking to get an older Xeon (8 cores or more) with lots of RAM for a new virtualization machine (Proxmox) on the cheap.
@sandiaswara1940
4 жыл бұрын
For 150$ you can get ryzen 7 2700x plus wraith cooler new
@Knebebelmeyer
4 жыл бұрын
they cost more than 150....for that price u can get a 3600 ryzen with a cheap b450...and you have same or better performance!! these old xeons are good, but today, thx to amd...we have a better choice!
@sandiaswara1940
4 жыл бұрын
For current price ryzen 5 3600 6/12 185-200$ and ryzen 7 2700x 8/18 135-150$
@edharding9363
4 жыл бұрын
Get a 2678v3 and an AliExpress x99 board, (mine with 16Gb of ddr3 was 175 euro) 12 cores at 3.3GHz, quad channel memory. Ddr3 ecc reg is still silly cheap 😉
@Knebebelmeyer
4 жыл бұрын
@@edharding9363 yes true...ddr3 reg is very cheap! but most countrys use taxes for china and u have to spent much more, than u actually want! 180euro is a good value, but u have an old plattform! no nvme boot, no usb 3.1 no standby mode... there are some circumstances with these x99 xeon rigs... you can deal with it, no problem! but for "usual" pc owner this is not a good idea!
@mapesdhs597
4 жыл бұрын
Bryan, remember, the 3930K *was* an 8-core, just with 2 cores disabled (check original reviews). So Intel had already been holding back for some time; they could have released a consumer 8c for X79 anytime, they chose not to since back then AMD could barely compete with the 2500K. Later XEONs as you say proved what was possible for the X&9 socket; consumers got screwed early on. The real takeaway from the results though is that, if one believed those who love to diss older hardware, what you observed should not be possible. Older systems are far more potent than most people realise.
@mapesdhs597
4 жыл бұрын
@Charles Clarke Indeed, yes I know (though most later 3930Ks will happily do 4.7 or 4.8); I have three R4Es, with a 4930K (also at 4.5), 4820K and 3930K, plus a P9X79 WS with 3930K (and 4x GTX 580 3GB), a P9X79-E WS with a 4960X, another -E with a 2680 v2 and lastly a standard P9X79 WS again with a 2680 v2. Not in use atm are four more 3930Ks, a 3970X and some other XEONs. I've done a lot of stuff with X79. :} Here's the WS with the 580s: www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/3930K_quad580_13.jpg Note btw much of my testing was done with high RAM capacity setups. I was one of the very first to achieve a high oc on a WS with a 3930K and 64GB RAM @ 2133. ASUS helped me do it, needed some non-standard tweaking (they said no tech reviewer had used so much RAM; I was building a rig for a solo pro who used AE). I had another WS but I donated that to the Learn Engineering channel, also with a 2680 v2: kzitem.info/news/bejne/yGiNz36Efox9gY4
@mapesdhs597
4 жыл бұрын
@Charles Clarke It's completely nuts. :D The oc on the 3930K isn't huge, only 4.7, but the key part is the system has max 64GB RAM @ 2133, that was tricky to get stable, especially with four GTX 580s @ 900MHz. It was for researching CUDA performance for pro apps, the 580s being faster back then than two Titan Blacks, and especially strong for FP64. One pain though was the MSI 580s are just sligthly wider than 2 slots (by about 1 or 2mm), making it a real pain to fit them in, with of course barely any airflow for the upper three cards, despite the 4 intake fans. If they were on water loops they could run much faster, the model in question reaching 1GHz core in most cases. Oh, I forgot, I have another WS board with a 3930K and 64GB, the original pro app build I did for someone in 2013, now returned as I upraded his setup back in January to a 2700X on an Asrock X470 Taichi, again with 64GB but now at 3200. Better performance than the 3930K was at 4.7, but without any oc needed, so more efficient, better stability, etc. (after being hammered for 7 years with After Effets alongside three GTX 580s, the 3930K was beginning to degrade). See: www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/tests-jj.txt
@SABREX7
4 жыл бұрын
I'm still running an x79 asus sabertooth with i73930k
@elemkay5104
2 ай бұрын
UPDATE: Here in the UK, Dell T3610 systems fully loaded with parts are going on ebay auction for a measly £40-£60, and you can pick up the 1680 v2 to drop into it for £35. Absolute bargain.
@2lazy2think91
4 жыл бұрын
Xeon v3 have avx2 instructions compared to v1 and v2 with only avx instructions
@mattsmechanicalssi5833
4 жыл бұрын
And the 1600 V3's still have an unlocked multiplier, but Intel locked them down in the V4's. Was a shame that they locked down the 2600 series, as boards like the EVGA SR-X was designed for overclocking 2 of them, and was already being produced when Intel locked the multipliers. I could just about imagine a pair of 2697-V2's! 24 cores at 4.5GHz+.
@jb678901
4 жыл бұрын
It is when you can get a MINT ASUS P9X79Pro locally, in its original box and with all paperwork and accessories...for US$20!!!! I landed the E5-1680V2 last year for $155. Currently OC's to 4.4Ghz on air with BCLK at 100. CB R15 multi = 1587. Not bad. It's the 32GB of desktop RAM at 1833 in 4 channel for $120 that makes it a decent bang for the buck, IMO. To cool this beast I am using a PCCooler GI-D66A "GameIce" with 230W TDP (6 nickel-plated pipe, dual 120mm RGB fan, shrouded with RGB top-plate...$70). With Prime 95 (version 26.6) it tops out at 79C after 16 minutes. That being said, I also think the packaged deal containing HuananZhi X99TF + E5-2678V3+32GB REEC DDR3 for $240 delivered is a great deal.
@FunkCakes
4 жыл бұрын
I think the 1650v3 is the go if they are cheap enough because I’m noticing the used market is still inflated at the moment in Australia
@krampus6538
4 жыл бұрын
You can get the E5 2667v2 for 100 Dollar and have same performance with OC like 8700k and better than ryzen 3600 or 2700x.X79 is nice this days....
@Xbc971
4 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Please do a video how well does age 1650v3/4
@AdmV0rl0n
4 жыл бұрын
So - I spent some time looking into this. In terms of cost, when the cost rises, I really get turned off the whole thing. Given the reality of the age of the processors and the instruction set and security issues, I really only want this at cheap pricing. On that note, and this is really where it kinda gets interesting - albeit with caveats - the combo kits on Aliexpress start to hit the spot. The X5675 and E5 1620 v2 come in at 'the right price'. The boards as stated here are not overclocking platforms - and unless you want to spend time in the russian bios scene - take them as they come. In this area, people can get a board that respectively hits 3.4Ghz, or 3.9Ghz - you may find quad channel boards, generally power usage is terrible so its not going to be cheap on power however you cut this - but its a very cheap way into a gaming rig. Add a PSU, Case, CPU cooler and a GPU and these make a respectable game rig. But. And this is the true but. The security, hassle and instruction set issues loom. These chips and the platform are dying - and not worth overspend. I think the E51620 V2 is the bargain here. Less cores but a 3.9 turbo. The info and discussion is awesome - so please don't take my comment as critical - not meant to be! Cheers
@valuehunter5544
4 жыл бұрын
same, which is why I picked up a 1620 v2
@wolffangalchemist
4 жыл бұрын
Really it depends on how deep your pockets are and if you are "upgrading" from weaker hardware or not. I went from z97 with a 4690k to the 1680 v2 and just kept my ddr3, psu, case ,cooler, and ect from that. after selling my old mobo and cpu and mobo only cost me about $100 and performs much better. Still using a 980 ti i overclocked the piss out of untill i see decent prices on a better rtx 20xx card or a rtx 30xx is more easily obtainable.
@thiscouldntblowmore
4 жыл бұрын
The flex: "..with RTX 3090" XD
@IIITr3yIII
4 жыл бұрын
i fucking loved you man. cheers from the states B)
@keennm
4 жыл бұрын
Why not Ryzen 7 1700? it's only 110$ on Aliexpress and its also 8 Cores 16 Threads and a great upgrade path
@BoomBox02
4 жыл бұрын
Isnt the pop filter meant to be facing the front of the mic??
@calebtyler_
4 жыл бұрын
I was really just watching one of your old xeon builds
@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE
3 жыл бұрын
1680 v2 overclocked vs 2678 v3 turbo unlock. Surprised no one has done that on KZitem.
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
I have both platforms in my house (P9X79Pro+E5-1680V2 (4.5Ghz); X99TF + E5-2678V3 (3.3Ghz w/TU)); both on air. The X79 is a better gaming rig; the X99 is superior on productivity. X79: CBR15 = 1587 CBR20=3326. X99: CB R15 = 1824 , CB R20 = 3912. For the X79, the max GPU I would consider is a 1080Ti or 2070Super. For the X99, a 1080 or 2060Super/2070. Note, the AVX2 instruction on the Haswell chip may prove advantageous on certain games vs IvyBridge (AVX only). IMO.
@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE
3 жыл бұрын
@@jb678901 Nice, I've got the 2678 V3 (hitting 1861 in CB R15 with 2113mhz DDR3 at CL10, was hitting 1900 with more aggressive undervolting but it wasn't 100% stable) and an old X58 X5675 (hitting 995 CB R15) @4.2ghz. Looking to get an X79 to add to my Intel HEDT obsession (I got onto X58 nearly 10 years ago with the i7 920), and the 16 core 7960X (for better overclocking and thermals than the 7980XE since many of my workflows favour high clocks rather than just pure thread count) which has come down in price hugely on Aliexpress recently.
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Yes, with 5 XEON platforms across 2 apartments...my own XEON addiction (from SandyBridge to Haswell) seems to have no end in sight! Every family member has one, except the cat, of course. Every time I get an itch to build one, I find someone in the home to hand it off to. Running out of family members, what to do?
@21stWallStreet
4 жыл бұрын
Who is Marco? I demand an answer
@sudhispillai8885
4 жыл бұрын
Can you make video with e5 2689 and new rtx 3 series gpu?
@MrProject55
4 жыл бұрын
you should do more on x99 and overcloclocking guides like you did with x58! ive got a 5960x that will do 4.7 but WONT oc ram at all.
@MrProject55
4 жыл бұрын
PS, my GTI and corrado are both manual....
@gorbynr1
3 жыл бұрын
Is this the only overclockable Xeon for the X79? Been trying to find a list but no luck. Thankful for any help
@matus570
3 жыл бұрын
1650, 1660, 1680 and possibly 1620 both v0 and v2 should be overclockable. However I would look it up before purchasing. 1620 v0 may be partially unlocked like the i7-3820 (up to x42 then you need to use cpu strap). These xeons are mostly X79 i7 counterparts.
@mariodrv
4 жыл бұрын
You got the spitguard on the wrong side of the mic.
@0mnikron702
3 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the intel x79 motherboards I picked one with a I7 for $120
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
Which brand/model?
@wowitsshit9734
4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the mind to upgrade my PC extremely cheaply, luckily in the UK the market for used parts is very good. I upgraded my computer recently as such: sold my AM3 motherboard for £25.00, bought a socket 1151 mobo for £45.16 sold my phenom ii x4 975 for £35.00, bought a i5-3570K for £31.05 sold my 8gb of ddr2 for £32, bought 16gb of ddr3 for £45 sold my hd 7950 for £50, bought a gtx 970 for £70 cinebench r15 score went from 393 to 630. (both are overclocked scores). My upgrade for just under £50. Yes I am cheap and I'll keep doing this if not for the great reset and looming democide plan that is in progress.
@Fin4L6are
4 жыл бұрын
which games is there a difference between AVX1 and AVX2?
@ivanorais9284
4 жыл бұрын
who did the subtitles?
@sijedevos2376
4 жыл бұрын
Could you included ac odyssey in cpu testing? I used to have a ryzen 5 2600 and a rtx 2060 and that wasn’t a great experience. Was getting constant stutters even with playable framerates. After upgrading to a 3700x the stutters were completely gone.
@NitrousXProductions
4 жыл бұрын
I have a Aorora R4 would this work with the xeon CPU?
@joaquimpsantos
4 жыл бұрын
Could you test some games again with HT off?
@redaanalla9458
4 жыл бұрын
pls can u try newer xeons(like v3/v4 and v5)
@niekschoten9262
3 жыл бұрын
Running a i7 4930k 4.5ghz with a gtx 1080ti. Gaming on a 1440p 165hz monitor, and mostly on a 4k 120hz tv. I've noticed 4k is a big deal for the 1080ti in newer games. What do i have to upgrade first, CPU or GPU? Or maybe bothXD
@car1o
3 жыл бұрын
GPU)
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
@@car1o In today's market?!? Nah...go for the CPU. 1680v2 and 1080Ti are still a very good match.
@car1o
3 жыл бұрын
@@jb678901 he is playing in 4k dude, much CPU power is not needed, he gonna get much more fps with 3080 gtx, rather that with 1680v2 and 1080ti )).
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
@@car1o Good point that I overlooked. Yes, in 4K it really is more GPU dependent. Only at 1080P, the 1080ti is a better match with no bottlenecking.
@car1o
3 жыл бұрын
@@jb678901 yes, I have this config 1680v2+1080ti and play 144 hz 1080p, In this case yes CPU is needed much, but if you play 4k 60 fps, you'd better save money for GPU )
@morgorth3242
4 жыл бұрын
could get a 12 core threadripper for 290 euro and mainboard for 190 would be a beter deal
@mckinleyscottie3466
3 жыл бұрын
Not bad for the price. I paid $415 for a 3800XT.
@ryancastello9994
4 жыл бұрын
I got an i74930k in an x79 (asrock extreme 6) mobo with a ram memory problems Idk what it is but the channels don’t work I’ve tried like every configuration with 2,4 or even 8 sticks but only some random config works (4 sticks randomly placed 16gb total) and then I can’t overclock cause it doesn’t boot after I apply it. I really wanna try overclock to extract some last performance soo if u know abt it plz help thanks
@car1o
3 жыл бұрын
read some basic overclocking manuals dude), it is timings and frequency of the memory, that some of your memory chips cannot bare, you need to set the timings and frequency suitable for all the memory chips you use together).
@ReganMarcelis
3 жыл бұрын
Bryan, I have a 7990 dual gpu that can still get up and boogy enough, tis works okay along with decent psu, ssd and hard drive along with the older AMD 1100T so just need a MOBO - board for this CHIP - Reccomendations? I want to throw this build together for my nephew to do some light to medium gaming and just get him started on the web as well, he is young and just starting so these parts are just laying around my house thus again, I just need a good board with good chipset for the 1100T. .....Anybody know the best board/chipset ever released for the old boy = 1100T cpu so I can put this together for him? I do not mind spending a bunch on the board if it gets me the best overclocking possible as I also have a nice cooler for it already to ... I liked the small ZOTAC boards they have (seem to be the only ones) for the Phenom 2's as they are ITX(!) and built in wifi, for the time, thats great however I looked and those boards seem to be 95 watt max which would need a 1065T - 95 watt version at best as once move to 1075T and 1090T as well as the last 1100T they are all 125watts. Anyone want to even swap a 1100T for a 1065 95 watt version only - even up? ...Ideas on the BEST mobo, 1100T? Smaller be nice but its not a problem if its standard or larger, matx, just want it to be good too great, smaller would be bonus when comes time to buy the final part as in the case which I already have an eye on a cool sleeper case... as hes actually into that, being so young it surprised me but it is what it is... Thanks in advance and this is a great video. I am typing this from my 1650 v0 at a locked 6/12 .....4.9ghz all core using a dell (made by pny) blower style 1060 6gb on my 2K LG ULTRAWIDE 34 INCH curved monitor and secondary 1080p monitor - never a hiccup... Anyways, The ONLY issue with these great sandy and ivy bridge chips is (or at Last the sandys) with windows 10 at least, they can not hibernate/sleep without freezing sometimes after awhile, sometimes having the dual bios corrupt itself somehow and have to refresh itself even... its super annoying cause everything else is so smooth and buttery. I am extra irritated recently as I tried SOLUS OS (The best linux distro ever IMO and just works on boot, no drivers installed, dual monitors - easy transistion) and what do you know my 3rd gen sandybridge xeon could go to sleep or hiibernate just fine so its NOT a hardware issue, its the damn windows / intel collab to make it this way 'I suppose as they are still "too good" , for to long in thier eyes prob... I am trying caffiene now but wish it just worked the-way it was intended! What is windows doing or not doing that solus is, I mean c'mon man! HAH... All this time I thought it was a hiccup in the gigabyte assasin 2 mobo, its NOT... Its a widespread problem people been trying to work to fix fully since 2013 all the way until today if google it correctly, insanity! ..... That leaves out the part on how many folks just got rid of thier system because of it and how many think it is some other issue as it can be tricky to realize whats happening....
@mvooo
3 жыл бұрын
Do you think this CPU is worth picking up if you're currently running an 4930k?
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. When I upgraded from E5-1650V2 to E5-1680V2 (at similar OC of 4.5Ghz) the results were significant. I would sell the i7 for $90 and spend the extra $60 for the 1680v2, if it were me.
@davidlee6136
4 жыл бұрын
What's would you call a "good price" for an X79 and for an X99?
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
First, shop locally for good deals and where the evidence that the motherboard works is visible (pics with HWinfo or CPUZ...) and you can inspect the board before handing over the cash. Market price is around US$200 for a good average board (e.g. ASUS P9X79, Asrock Extreme 4 or better). A good price(?)...well, I managed to find a MINT condition ASUS P9X79Pro + CPU + RAM + cooler in a package deal. I paid US$220 at the time (1 year ago). The CPU, an i7-3820 (worth about $80 used), 32GB of desktop 1600 DDR3 RAM (Hynix xFury worth about $120 used), a CoolerMaster H412S cooler (worth about $25 used). At most I paid $20 for the motherboard...at best I got it for free. My recommendation...focus locally and try to find a package deal where somebody is simply moving from an older system (DDR3) to a newer system (DDR4) and practically upgrading everything in their box. Great prices can be had in such circumstances. For X99...I also have a HuananZhi ("HZ") X99TF that I bought off of AliExpress from the HZ official store. It costs about $100 and did not disappoint. Paired it to an E5-2678V3 (12C/24T) for US$85. Turbo-unlocked all cores with the MiyConst tutorial on KZitem; all core 3.3Ghz. They are selling package deals (E5-2678v3 + X99TF + 32GB REEC DDR3 server ram) for about US$250 delivered (duty excluded). This is a really good deal IMO; the HZ X99TF is a well made/quality motherboard and the XEON is a steal at today's mkt price. Name brand X99's are a bit overpriced IMO...but I suppose local deals can still surprise here too. Remember, there are only about 5 Xeon Version 3 Haswell's (in that socket) that are compatible with both DDR3 and DDR4...the E5-2678v3 is one of them. Also, not all X99 boards can handle DDR3, the HZ X99TF (dedicated 4 slots DDR3 or 4 slots DDR4) and HZ X99T8 (all 8 DDR3 slots) are the two that come to my mind. CB R15 = 1824 , CB R20 = 3912. CPU runs very cool with SNOWMAN Dual 120mm 6 pipe tower cooler.
@loneventhorizon
4 жыл бұрын
You can't throw all your eggs in one basket. I'd put money on Intel being able to put out a crazy chip whenever they want. They probably have the designs already for the next 6 years
@boncharusorn6173
3 жыл бұрын
I just got p9x79 pro w/3960x and intel 1200lcs for $155 (everything used but have org.box&accs) did I got ripped off? Thinking to get the xeon chip but additional $150+ held me back....I don't know
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
As long as the motherboard is in good condition, you certainly did NOT get ripped off! I have seen the E5-1680v2 now for about $135 on eBay. You will need a decent cooler (230W TDP or better for OCing..I am using a PCCooler GI-D66A)). Also, some decent DDR3 (e.g. 1600 desktop)...at least 4 slots utilized for the 4 channel config. Power supply...I would go with 600W GOLD or better (depends on GPU really). Sell the 3960x for ~$100. Net cost to upgrade with 3960x sale = $35 With an air cooler add another $70.
@boncharusorn6173
3 жыл бұрын
@@jb678901 Im running 4*4g@2400 ram and a custom AIO setup now, able to do 4.3 OC stable....but only 6 cores. I wanted 4.2 OC on 8 cores....might have to get 1680v2 for real
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
@@boncharusorn6173 With a custom AIO you should be able to manage the 8C/16T beast just fine. Stable 4.2 to 4.4 Ghz is readily achievable with avg 1680v2. A stable 4.5+ with an aged 1680v2...silicon lottery, as usual.
@boncharusorn6173
3 жыл бұрын
@@jb678901 on the sad note, my 3960x OC score just matches a stock Ryzen 1500.....but my components looks pricier hahaha
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
@@boncharusorn6173 The 1680V2 at 4.4+ will match the 2700x.
@worldhello1234
4 жыл бұрын
@8:36 If it is available, it is way more expensive than 150 bucks. :)
@lasseberg7317
4 жыл бұрын
does mechwarrior 5 use avx2? cant find it anywhere? The only game that i can find that uses avx is horizon zero dawn.
@kognak6640
4 жыл бұрын
If a game uses AVX instructions, it won't run on non-AVX CPU. Only exception would be if game comes with two builds, other compiled with AVX enabled. It's not likely to happen.
@lasseberg7317
4 жыл бұрын
@@kognak6640 yes, and usally games runs som sse instrucktions, but i think horizon is the only game that requires avx at the moment. But i could be wrong.
@kognak6640
4 жыл бұрын
@@lasseberg7317 Death Stranding is another. There's probably a few more less known games.
@lasseberg7317
4 жыл бұрын
@@kognak6640 cool, thanks.
@JezyYT
4 жыл бұрын
Tech yes baby!
@brokenone22
4 жыл бұрын
I have this same motherboard and cpu but have ddr3 2400
@mattw3406
4 жыл бұрын
Brian - how about swapping out my 5930k for a 6950X in late 2020 for $350?
@rulik006
4 жыл бұрын
Dumb, because you can buy i9 7920X for $400 6950x max worthy price is $270
@mattw3406
4 жыл бұрын
@@rulik006 that would require an x299 motherboard which would be an additional $250 minimum. Where can you get a 6950X for $270?
@rulik006
4 жыл бұрын
@@mattw3406 x299 are cheaper than x99
@mattw3406
4 жыл бұрын
@@rulik006 I already have an x99 - if I'm buying a new mobo and cpu I might as well go with Zen 3.
@rulik006
4 жыл бұрын
@@mattw3406 i want too, but 5600x - overpriced 5800x - super overpriced
@tommypearson9260
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 6speed manual lol wtf man are you spying on me???
@chuskex7719
4 жыл бұрын
No. You can get Ryzen 7 2700(X) for
@2ball212
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah . . But i don't know whose on the wrong side, is it you or the pop filter?
@txddyfarquh69
4 жыл бұрын
Dammit, I needs that win key asap 😭😭😭
@mouse454
4 жыл бұрын
People forget how much the top-end Xeons costed new. Suitable only for overcapitalized billion dollar startups and military-industrial cash burning
@surrealmemes3518
4 жыл бұрын
Haven't been to tech yes city in a while. Feels good to be back.
@AliHamza-hw5rs
4 жыл бұрын
Same, been like 3-4 years. Glad he's grown his channel so much.
@andrieslandsberg5187
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the covid making us all save on tech.
@GLDragon93
4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the unlocked E5-1680 v3 vs this v2 version. So that way we can see the impact that AVX 2 instructions really have !
@tylerspecht7553
8 ай бұрын
100% agree. As far as from other benchmarks I've seen the v2 is quite a bit behind the v3
@gumbi79
4 жыл бұрын
used xeons were brilliant , and alot of fun , but the prices for mobos are stupid , you can get a r7 1700 pro and a x370 mobo for under a 150 bucks and it will be faster and more efficient
@techyescity
4 жыл бұрын
Ryzen has been great for the market. I wish the GPU market would have the same disruption. Though the 1680 v2 is more an exotic, definitely not a value play on the Xeon Front.
@ultimateroosterreturns8258
4 жыл бұрын
@@techyescity Hey mate if you had the choice which gaming laptop would you buy ASUS ROG Strix Scar G732LWS 17.3" i7 Gen10 RTX2070 Super or MSI GL75 Leopard 10SFSK-407AU 17.3" i7 RTX 2070 Super im trying to decide but having problems .Any help would be greatly appreciated.
@CaptainKenway
4 жыл бұрын
Some of the brand new Chinese X79 and X99 boards are pretty decent and come in at $100 or less. You can't get the absolute most out of the chip with the X79 ones due to no voltage control, but I had my 1650 v2 at 4.2GHz no problems on an X79 Turbo. The X99 ones, especially the Huananzhi TF and F8, are even better and DO have voltage control, allowing you to get up to 4.5-4.6GHz. The Haswell Xeons really aren't much more expensive either, at least where I live, plus you also have the consumer i7s as an option like the 5960X.
@gumbi79
4 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainKenway yeh ive tried a few of them and had some success with custom bios from the crazy russians , but ive went full amd for every client build now , its just so much cheaper and just less hassle
@KalphosZeromar
4 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainKenway you can get a rly good new b450 for under 80 that would be great with a 1700
@besssam
4 жыл бұрын
1680 v2 Xeon makes no sense, you can get the same performance from second hand ryzen 1800 or 2700, by the time you buy the 1680 v2, DDR3 modules, motherboard, and a powerful cooler as you suggested then you might as well go second hand ryzen 1800 or 2700.
@flozam5468
4 жыл бұрын
True.. if core for core performance is key... but latency and reliability are the key points over the ryzen... besides its a bit like having a resto-mod car... it would make more sense just to buy the new factory model, yet sometimes you just want the old shape... f.y.i:- my 1680 system with 5700xt gets a 3dmark timespy score of 9791... You've gotta have a hell of a 2700 overclock to come close....
@jb678901
3 жыл бұрын
I think the point is that many people already have or can acquire cheap DDR3, which in quad channel and low latency is a cost benefit. Same for the PSU and Cooler. However, if you have to start the build from scratch, then yes, a Ryzen platform makes a lot of sense...or at least it did before recent market prices make Ryzen a premium choice overall.
@TechnoBabble
3 жыл бұрын
DDR3 is cheaper, the Xeon supports more RAM, more PCIe lanes, a higher end platform that generally has more expansion and connectivity, and in certain workloads the better latencies and single core performance on the 1680 V2 would lead to much better performance. I use a 3700x right now and I would never have purchased Zen or Zen+ CPUs because of those deficiencies.
@jacksonbtb571
4 жыл бұрын
Im using this cpu in my system! Overclocked to 4.4 ghz on an Asrock x79 extreme 6 motherboard which, surprisingly, supports ECC registered dimms. So of course I got 32 gb of that running in my rig as well
@jb678901
4 жыл бұрын
Same here, but with ASUS P9X79Pro and desktop RAM (8x4GB HyperX Fury DDR3 1600). Board cost me US$20 (local purchase), CPU US$155 (eBay), and RAM US$120 (local purchase).
@Matbombardier6985
4 жыл бұрын
would really enjoy a version of this for the x99... I have a 5960x at 4.4 and 32gb of ram at 2800 and a gtx 1070 ti and would love to know the max logical GPU. in my garage I have an x5675 (4.4 and 24gb at 2000 gtx 1060 6gb) because of you. I've been sub'd since 4th gen intel was new... thanks for the years of therapy
@MarshallSambell
4 жыл бұрын
Look at the Xeon e5 1660 v3
@nathangamble125
4 жыл бұрын
@@MarshallSambell What would be the point? He already has a 5960X, which is almost identical to a 1660 V3.
@nathangamble125
4 жыл бұрын
An RTX 2070 Super or 5700 XT would probably be the sensible maximum GPU, depending on what resolution you play at and what games you play. I'd wait for the RTX 3060 and/or 6600 XT to come out and get one of them.
@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX
4 жыл бұрын
had the 5820k overclocked and would say the top GPU for x99 would be the RTX 2070 (non super), i was reaching max capacity with it and in fps vs my stock i5 8400 was running pretty similar, recently changed to a 3300x ryzen, and much better than both for gaming imo, mostly due of having high ram speed. i still run my x99 from time to time, but now left it more as a render pc with a gtx 1050. Edit: forgot to mention, but i play on 2560x1080p 144hz, but for 4K gaming i guess you could stretch it all the way to a RTX 3070 when they are available.
@Adhmuz
4 жыл бұрын
If you play at 1440p or higher you have no reason to think a 3080 would be restricted by your CPU. If I can get my hands on a 3080 I can confirm this as I have a 5960x too, I have mine at 4.5GHz and 32GB 3200MHz RAM. I'm sure someone will test this eventually.
@JimminyGryom
3 жыл бұрын
what about x58 vs x79 vs x99? Or 1680-v2 vs 1680-v3 vs pre-1680-v2 equivalent, getting all AVX version tested?
@MrEditsCinema
4 жыл бұрын
Personally I don't think any of the older cpus apart from ryzen are worth it.. They are much newer, less power draw, more fps in games and run on great modern motherboards.. Very easy to re-sell too
@spider02540
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and it's nice to have things like M2 support and built in USB 3 ports
@MrEditsCinema
3 жыл бұрын
@@spider02540 yep..
@TechnoBabble
3 жыл бұрын
Newer Ryzen chips are a lot more expensive and lack some features compared to old Xeons like the 1680 v2. It all just depends on what you're using your system for. Something like a Ryzen 1700 or 2700 are not going to outperform the 1680 v2 in a lot of workloads because of their poor single core performance and latency issues.
@WarriorsPhoto
4 жыл бұрын
Bryan, my favorite of your style videos. I like that you test these older chips out against the high end of the modern world. I am also not surprised by how well these older platforms perform. Considering they were the high end only a few years ago. Hopefully Intel's next enthusiast platform has as long of a life. (:
@techyescity
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@WarriorsPhoto
4 жыл бұрын
@@techyescity Of course.
@flozam5468
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome... Thanks mate.... I had a feeling the ol-1680 had finally met her match with these new cards.. but am stoked you took the time to properly evalute it for us.... I love my Rig but in the coming year, I'll seek a new platform to start the build process again... and just for "flex", my 1680 sits on a rock solid 4.5ghz at 1.25v.... Long Live the O.G - overclockers
@dog_knight
4 жыл бұрын
Picked up a 2678 v3 thanks to your recommendation. Performs brilliantly. Even stock it out performs a Ryzen 3600 in Cinebench R20. Got it for $160 delivered.
@jb678901
4 жыл бұрын
I bought this 12C/24T CPU about 6 months ago for US$105 and I now see prices on AliEx for around US$85! The HuananZhi Official store sells a package deal (HuananZhi X99TF + E5-2678V3 + 32GB R-EEC 1333) for US$240 delivered. Also, recommend the TurboUnlock (all core to 3.2Ghz...all 12 cores). As an FYI, I found MiyConst's turbo-unlock guide excellent.
@dog_knight
4 жыл бұрын
@@jb678901. Thanks for the info. Brian actually did a video on it not long ago. But seeing as this will be running ESXI for my home lab, won't be able to have any permanent windows adjustments made to it. Either way, big upgrade from the 5820k it was running before.
@techyescity
4 жыл бұрын
Its a very solid CPU that one, will be doing a build with it soon.
@jb678901
4 жыл бұрын
@@techyescity Love this one. I built mine on one of those AliEx vertical test benches, (the ALU red/black ones). Thru in a little RGB bling with the SNOWMAN + X99TF. Looks cool on the desk.
@MarcoGPUtuber
4 жыл бұрын
XEON > iPhone 12
@MrThomashorst
3 жыл бұрын
The AVX2 on the Haswell's are great ... the 4770K (4 Cores) @4.4 GHz is delivering the same game-performance as the 1680v2 @4.6 GHz. Their AVX2 is about 35% faster than the AVX1 instruction set.
@car1o
3 жыл бұрын
yes), they basically did this to kill the dd3 and old platforms, they simply cannot suggest anything significantly better and don't know how to make people buy same overclocked processors, and it is a Big big shame))!
@ReganMarcelis
3 жыл бұрын
Niceee specs, impossible to find ...... ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/198010/intel-xeon-w-2275-processor-19-25m-cache-3-30-ghz.html
@FrameChasers
4 жыл бұрын
My favorite cpu of all time
@pacifiststormtrooper8839
4 жыл бұрын
Going to brag a little, got x58 Asus running x5675 got it booting from NVME! Have an asus x79 work station board p9x79ws with 1680v2... but the jewel in the crown is the x99 rampage v extreme asus got the x79 and x99 from Japan, USD 150 and 200 respectively. Looking for a 12 or more core for the x99 which are not cheap, high core count x99 v vs threadripper vid? im addicted and i blame Bryan.
@DarkLinkAD
4 жыл бұрын
Whats your Cinebench R15 single core score?
@johntiles
4 жыл бұрын
A ryzen would slay your x99 especially the non x 3900's which are 240 USD
@pacifiststormtrooper8839
4 жыл бұрын
@@johntiles maybe, 2699v3 18 cores 36 threads with all core turbo mod 3.6 ghz on all cores gives insane cinebench numbers, ryzen with how many cores and threads... fyi x99 is ddr4 3200 mhz quad channel, native nvme so its quite a beast. I have x58, x79, x99, 8700k, 9900k, 3800x all fully built systems, bit of a collector i am
@johntiles
4 жыл бұрын
@@pacifiststormtrooper8839 ah right I didn't realise, yes I suppose that's a great system
@DarkLinkAD
4 жыл бұрын
@@johntiles Ryzen has an IPC near that of a core 2 duo or 3rd Gen I7
@Zetraxes
4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about all relevant old Xeon cpu's with all the relevant motherboards for them for overclocking to look out for its all a little confusing tbh. You would help me out a great deal there thank you :)
@FrLe7
4 жыл бұрын
Small suggestion, Put in a modern CPU of equivalent performance in the benchmarks as well, for example a i5-10400 or some i3s that would be of the same cost.
@tad4053
4 жыл бұрын
We don't care if you're first.
@Adhmuz
4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you put some x99 platforms through your benchmarks. However I agree the boards are hard to find at any semblance of a reasonable price, I got extremely lucky a year ago when I found an Asus X99-A II for $200 CAD, it even shipped from a Canadian seller, slapped an E5-2680 v3 in and use it in my Plex server.
@rulik006
4 жыл бұрын
9:18 Don't buy x79 in 2020, this is dumb Good bargon is X99/B550/Z490 wIth 1660v3 $160 / 3600X $190/ ES 10600k $200
@jamesyoung6878
4 жыл бұрын
First
@XionLuis
4 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible for you to make a video on the i7-5775C? If it's still worth it in 2020 and all that jazz with the new RTX cards I really enjoy your videos, keep 'em coming!
@piro6760
4 жыл бұрын
Tyc what is problem with z400 e3565 My pc is just freezez some time and giving me 5 beeps Whats the problem plz help me out
@fizzystream8868
4 жыл бұрын
ive got a i7 4930k at 4.6ghz with one of the best overclocking x79 motherboards, the asus p9x79 ws
@OVERKILL_PINBALL
2 жыл бұрын
Still rockin' a E5-1680v2 (modified BIOS) in 2022! NVMe bootable drive :)
@tmgcommunications9507
3 жыл бұрын
Just watching this for the second time and one thing you didn't mention is that this processor supports a disgusting 40 PCI-e lanes, has a ridiculous 32MB cache(huge for its age) and 59GB/s memory bandwidth. Absolutely overkill what Intel made back in the days. Even if you could run this stable at 4GHz, it's worth the purchase in my opinion.
@gamingoutloud293
2 жыл бұрын
Today you can benefit from that overkill of 40 PCI E lanes, expanding your system with nvmes over pcie ;)
@user-rs7tv5lq5v
4 жыл бұрын
At $150 it ain’t worth it when +$25 will get you a first gen ryzen7 atleast in America
@AMDJunkie
8 ай бұрын
they go for as low as $55 now
@Trick-Framed
4 жыл бұрын
Oh TECH YES! x99 x RTX 3080/90 incoming? I would LOVE to see that too!
@bywooz7406
4 жыл бұрын
2678v3 seems a better deal
@Chris-se6yh
4 жыл бұрын
How about the chinese x99 with a nice cpu?
@iurabordei933
4 жыл бұрын
My sub box: iPhone 12 Me: XEON
@B260-d1g
4 жыл бұрын
How does it perform against the 2640 V3?
@rulik006
4 жыл бұрын
Same, if 2640v3 turbo unlocked
@lucagirardi5574
4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this old beast yesterday, you are incredible bro. One of the best hardware channels that I enjoy and learn a lot watching
@freaK_09
2 жыл бұрын
Mr Tech YES City I have a i7 3820. And I upgraded to the 1680v2 a bit because if this review. 😉
@Anny0nN
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 3820 as well and I'm deciding between a 2697v2 and the 1680v2, how are your framerates in csgo?
@CoalitionGaming
4 жыл бұрын
This CPU eluded me due to the cost when I upgraded my previous main x79 rig, had to go with a 1650v2. Then when i built my ultimate HP Z420 Xeon rig, I had to settle for the still powerful E5-2667v2 8 core. Love seeing content on the 1680v2! Damn did the price on this CPU drop!
@David-oz7se
3 жыл бұрын
I'm putting an AliExpress E5-2667v2 into my z420 as it's the best CPU it takes. Going to get a 6800xt or 3080 and play at 4k. Your RGB z420 build is fantastic i might do something similar
@JoffasGames
4 жыл бұрын
I'm still on the x79 board with a 4930k overclocked to 4.2 and a 980ti I plan to upgrade when the 30 series comes more into stock. Watching this video shows me that I won't have to upgrade the whole lot just the card for now anyway. And upgrade the rest later. Gotta love Melbourne's lock down gaming is all there is to do haha
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