Building speakers is not just making a box and adding the drivers. The exact size for the specific driver and the target frequency range and tonality is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more sciency than just slapping together a box for drivers. The box dimensions and chambers inside is almost if not more important then the drivers you choose.
@marcelinblockform
12 күн бұрын
absolutely true
@itsJoshW
12 күн бұрын
Correct, but programs do exist today that aid in this (ToidsDIY is a great resource for this, if you are not looking to buy a prefab kit).
@jparky1972
12 күн бұрын
Yep. I built a sub box for a specific area in my car. It was under the necessary volume area for optimum sound. I added a tube to allow air to escape the box. It could have sounded better for sure. But it was in a 1980's car so hardly high fidelity.
@eddtru
12 күн бұрын
This is one of those things that seems easy on the surface and then there's a whole iceberg of really technical shit.
@mr.bennett108
12 күн бұрын
Yes! And it's not JUST the volume/size, either. There are SO many other little idiosyncrasies pro-manufactured audiophile-grade speakers have. The rabbit-hole is endless when you're going well beyond what the human ear can theoretically detect and start trying to crack the proverbial "Three Body Problem" of harmonic interference that Audiophiles claim is the reason they pay thousands of dollars for a 3ft piece of copper wire. Like, my inner audiophile was SCREAMING "BEVEL YOUR EDGES! NO SHARP CORNERS INSIDE THE SPEAKER!" and "NO RIGHT ANGLE JOINTS! 3% DISTAL TAPERS IN HEIGHT AND DEPTH! MOLDING ON THE BRACES, DON'T LEAVE THEM 90DEGREES!!" and "NO WOOD GLUE! SILICONE ADHESIVE ONLY!" and "DOUBLE-THICK WALLS! LAMINATE WITH VISCOUS SOUND DAMPENER! LINE THE INSIDE IN LEAD FOIL AND TAR PAPER! MORE MASS MORE MASS!"
@gormdenorm678
9 күн бұрын
Yeah dont buy speakers, build them. Step 1: Buy a CNC Machine
@SoftAsFur
2 күн бұрын
LOL! 😹
@Zaque-TV
Күн бұрын
You can do it with basic woodworking tools. But..... step 1: Have a garage!
@gormdenorm678
Күн бұрын
@@Zaque-TV 😂
@fortyfukinseven
11 күн бұрын
Tip for budget minded individuals: if you can't afford practice runs for the veneers, do the bottom, back, and any face that may be against a wall first. They won't be easily visible, and give you the practice needed before doing the front and top.
@luciflash
8 күн бұрын
Even better tip, buy already veneered mdf. You can find them almost anywhere in Europe at least.
@Lumi_Tassu
10 күн бұрын
"Build speakers, don't buy them" thanks, on my way to buy my dream workshop in 20 years when I get a stable job Great video btw, this is why I love the concept of engineering and knowing how to do all the stuff. Like, having a workshop like that with tools, and having all the skills, that's like a dream come true to every tinkerer!
@tylercaia4681
6 күн бұрын
I worked as a finish carpenter for a kitchen and bathroom business. All the skills demonstrated in this video directly translate to building beautiful custom cabinetry, gables, fridge, and island pillars. You can even wire in lED backsplash lighting. I love how craftsmanship and creativity can be harnessed to achieve almost any end result.
@ManBearZac
12 күн бұрын
Did I watch all of these as they came out originally? Yes. Did I still watch all of this again? Again, yes.
@Ricky_Camacho
12 күн бұрын
man i was thinking the same lol , especially when he said "first time using veneer" lol
@SlevinKalevera
12 күн бұрын
SAME
@cuackgg
9 күн бұрын
is he re releasing or what?
@blinkachu5275
10 күн бұрын
As someone who actually worked at Sonos (before I was let go after 9 years because of downsizing, so no, my opinion of the product itself is not swayed by the fact I used to work there), you cannot just take a bunch of wood and add a bunch of drivers and be like "yo I made this home theater setup that rivals a big brand, say goodbye to *insert brand name here*" It's cool you made them, absolutely! It's awesome to do manual labor and figure things out, but making speakers is SO much more involved than what you did here. The drivers have to be set to a specific target frequency, the drivers have to be of specific sizes based on low tones or high tones, they have to be pointed in certain directions for a wider audio spectrum (no, just pointing them forward is not the right answer), they have to be a specific DISTANCE from one another, the material and paint of the box itself, the shape of the box itself, the actual dac that's used, the software that's installed that equalizes and normalizes the audio etc etc etc. I literally can go on. Then if we're talking Sonos specifically, the interconnectedness between speakers, the way you can control multiple rooms, the way you can group rooms, the way you add speakers at any point you want, the way you can tune them specifically to the room they're in. Sonos isn't perfect. Heck, if audiophiles are to be believed they sound decent but don't rival higher end stuff. Their app has had some of the worst changes over the years (holy fuck was that a pain to troubleshoot) However, it's just not possible to rival the quality of a Sonos Arc for instance with just your DIY boxes with drivers. Again, it's awesome you build them, but let's drop the "say goodbye to Sonos" on the thumbnail? (or whatever other brand you could put there really), ye? The amount of R&D that goes into building speakers at Sonos, Harman Kardonn, Bose, Samsung etc. is just not something a single individual can achieve. The way the thumbnail is currently is just disrespectful to the ton of work that goes into those types of speakers.
@brzt4256
10 күн бұрын
There's another video you might like, it takes into account all of these things but the makers use a completely different type of speaker, with flat panels. It's called "World's Best Speakers!" by Tech Ingredients. I'm curious what you think about of this one.
@Schmalvis
10 күн бұрын
I work for Sonos currently and the recent re-org was a really rough time. Sorry you were impacted by downsizing
@MP-qn1jw
9 күн бұрын
Sonos sucks. Like Bose, they R&D the crap out of the cheapest components around. Bose Wave Radio retailed for $500, while it has about $50 worth of components inside. I can make ANY shit speaker sound better with DSP too, anyone can. It's not rocket science like Blows & Sukos would have the public believe. While little over engineered shit speakers are ok for surround sound systems due to THX's 80hz HPF, they absolutely suck for music. Especially modern music. Anyone can beat Sonos Arc's performance, easily. The ONLY time smaller is better in the world of speakers is if you value vanity over performance. In this video, dude makes nice furniture. I would not call them speakers though.
@blinkachu5275
9 күн бұрын
@@MP-qn1jw Yeah no, Sonos does not suck. Tell me you've never heard their products without telling me lmao They're not the best by any means in terms of audio quality but y'all audiophiles genuinely are so brainrotted with your "FLAC is so much better than MP3" and other bullshit like that when the differences are so minute that I just can't take y'all seriously.
@AndroidDevil
9 күн бұрын
So can any of y'all tell me what's the top g of speaker brands?
@BestLittleStudio
10 күн бұрын
One point of contention among builders is the method of connecting wires to drivers. In this case, you've soldered them, but as you've noted, others prefer crimp-on connectors. In my experience of over 20 years, I recommend using a standard blade connector. Insert the wire into the crimp section, ensuring there’s a bit of excess wire coming out the front. Crimp the connection, then fold the wire over and solder it. Afterward, apply heat shrink tubing to ensure a solid and durable connection. Once that’s done, press the connector onto the speaker terminal and gently give it a small squeeze to ensure a secure fit. The advantage of using blade and socket connectors is that they provide a physical lock thanks to the small hole and nub on the connector, allowing for a removable yet secure connection when necessary. Relying solely on soldering, especially with modern electronics solder that no longer contains lead, can lead to issues. The vibrations in the system can cause the hardened solder to crack and fall off over time. In contrast, a physical connection won’t deteriorate in the same way, ensuring a more reliable setup in the long run.
@mastermattie
7 күн бұрын
I used to work for a company which installed speakers at Super Yachts. This are state-of-the-art speakers but the most impressive were their custom designs. As every square inch matters on these yachts, sometimes we had to deal with pipes, cables or other yacht related components. So the speaker houses sometimes need to have the most weird shapes. But the most important rule is the volume of the housing. As long as this matches the driver specs, the speakers will sound awesome.
@RDHMT24
12 күн бұрын
takes you a few days using incredibly professional tools. imagine how long its taking us mere mortals
@theradioweyr
10 күн бұрын
Incredibly professional tools?
@Toqom
6 күн бұрын
@@theradioweyr Ya, most people don't have woodworking tools at the ready. Just past 40, I've only recently gotten myself the tools to do what he's doing and at his age, I had nothing at all. Let's also point out he has a professional workshop, most people don't even have a garage to work. And I started this before he mentions the damn CNC machine, so ya, most of what he has is professional grade and he has a youtube channel to show for it.
@zachmalone428
6 күн бұрын
I think it's more of priorities. Obviously the guy is passionate about woodworking, so he bought tools to do his hobby. I'm sure if he started in metal and welding, he'd be starting at 40 like you. No need to ostracize the dude because he has/had different priorities as you.
@TheStonedSpidR
5 күн бұрын
my cousin builds speaker boxes to specs given by the speaker makers in his backyard with just measuring tape, a jigsaw and a circular saw. dont need a whole shop to make a speaker box.
@zachmalone428
5 күн бұрын
@TheStonedSpidR hell yeah! Honestly new and expensive tools just make things easier. Definitely doesn't determine if one can make the thing or not. Woodworking should be fun, not something that gives you anxiety about not having something!
@OrigMaelstrom
12 күн бұрын
What in the world does this have to do with Sonos? I mean, it's beautiful work, as usual, but I was expecting wireless (with the mention of Sonos)
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
11 күн бұрын
Called "click bait" GOT YOU B×××H! 😂
@lassikinnunen
11 күн бұрын
Yeah that kinda implies putting in a raspberry pi with dac or not and an amplifier in there. This is more like "a center speaker build" or "a soundbar". Sonos would imply also having the raspberry do some dsp tuning of the signal to flatten the signal(or boost bass)
@ck17350
10 күн бұрын
Yup, disappointed to watch all the way through with nothing related to powered speakers or wireless/bluetooth features. You know, the things that make Sonos speakers different than passive ones. I got baited and switched.
@ubacow7109
11 күн бұрын
It's a yes/no scenario. You can build sound bars that are probably better than a Sonos, but you're also not going to be able to do the room correction without an AVR. Which will cost more than just getting a sound bar.
@MP-qn1jw
9 күн бұрын
LMFAO!! AVRs have shit DSP unless you spend >$2k. There is way more to system tuning than room correction. There are plenty of DSPs on the market to fix shit speakers that cost way less than, and perform way better than most AVRs. Sonos sucks just like every sound bar. You can only polish a turd so much. Even car audio now has DSPs to accommodate proper system tuning.
@ubacow7109
9 күн бұрын
@@MP-qn1jw I think that perspective is a lil outdated. You can absolutely buy AVRs now w/ DIRAC for less than a grand. Keep in mind up until like a few years ago you couldnt get DIRAC on a system w/o spending like $4-5k on a processor. Theres also the fact is that you can buy a soundbar now from like Klipsch that even ships w/ DIRAC out of the box.... So building your own sound bar is kinda hard to justify when theres so much high level DSP capabilities nowadays from manufactures.
@MP-qn1jw
8 күн бұрын
@@ubacow7109How AWESOME!! Technology is great!! DIRAC is said to be good. If you can get it in an HTR under $1k, that's awesome!! However, soundbars suck and so do the speakers in this video. I prioritize music over movies, and it has been a struggle to build a system for both. HT is way easy from the standpoint that THX has a HPF at 80hz. In no way is that musical. Personally I have not used DIRAC, I actually have measurement equipment of my own. I usually let auto-tuners in HTRs do their thing. It's after they are happy, that I go back fix it properly with my measurement gear. Size does matter, and no soundbar, Sonos, or Bose can do what real speakers in real boxes hooked up to real amps can do. Some people care more about what it looks like, that's fine. It's just really sad when I see people being told that this is anything but a piece of furniture. Yes it makes noise, but so will a computer hard drive if you hook it up to an amp. I am not an audiohpile, and I have never recommended McIntosh to anyone, because I don't know anyone who would spend that money. I might consider it if I hit the lottery, but not really. You don't have to spend $5k, but there is a lot of overpriced garbage out there. Sonos, & Bose are the 2 biggest rip offs ever.
@nieks.7326
8 күн бұрын
Room correction is very overrated
@MP-qn1jw
7 күн бұрын
@@nieks.7326 1st every room has different reflections. 2nd no speaker is flat. Enjoy your Sonos.
@litzy7892
6 күн бұрын
Sub build, YES PLEASE! I love building my own speakers myself as well so hello fellow speaker snob. It's a rabbit hole worth jumping into. My main reason for DIYing my own speakers is to have control over build quality and parts quality that is simply not on offer in the price range I wish to spend. Build on brother! Subscribed!
@JamesGarwood
12 күн бұрын
When I use a hole saw a tip I was told was to drill a relief hole on the outside of the hole you are drilling with a 10mm drill bit so the dust can escape, stops the mdf from burning which smells awful, lovely build :)
@winebird8952
11 күн бұрын
So, mark the hole with the hole bit, then send a 10mm through the mark?
@Etacovda63
8 күн бұрын
@@winebird8952 drill a 10mm hole inside the the edge of the outer diameter of the circle you plan to drill (I find its easiest to start the actual hole you want to drill, then use the scored mark to align a 10mm drill bit to, that way you can make the edge of the 10mm hole tangental with the edge of the cut hole, so it doesnt go over the finish line). Man, this is a lot easier to explain with images...
@winebird8952
7 күн бұрын
@@Etacovda63 I totally got it. You and I said the same thing in different ways.
@MattOGormanSmith
10 күн бұрын
I thought my 4" hole saw was blunt, so I spent a good hour carefully sharpening it. It still rubbed and burned. I now believe the problem is the lack of power on my cheap 350W drill press. Bigger motor time.
@barthchris1
2 күн бұрын
Hole saws seem like a good solution but they're meant for hole making in mild steel. An example would be creating holes for conduit connectors going into an electrical panel. Cutting regular plywood/ wood doesn't really work well. MDF is torturous to the saw and will quickly dull/ burn no matter how powerful the drill. Recently carbide tipped the hole saws have been introduced, they shouldn't burn but still it's not the right tool for the job. If you've ever gotten The leftover wooden slug stuck inside the hole saw that might give you a clue right there.
@zackj997
12 күн бұрын
I really love the look of those rear firing atmos speakers. It has such a cool intentional presence instead of the usual hidden designs of them.
@fr0nk3nst31n
12 күн бұрын
If you want to really test your surround, the beach landing scene in Saving Private Ryan is always a good choice.
@exiztent818
5 күн бұрын
I totally concur. Def. top of the soundcheck/demo playlist. Pink Floyd's Pulse tour also comes to mind; as well as the "Do not go gentle" scene from Interstellar (When Hanz Zimmer so artfully falls asleep at the organ again, lol).
@R4wF4ce
4 күн бұрын
I was snared by the "RIP sonos" tag on the frame thing and thought that you had added DSP to your past projects (which I did enjoy thoroughly, great work 100%), as that's really what makes sonos hit the way they do. So while it's nice to have these all together for first time viewers, I didn't love that its essentially recycled content. That said, I love what you do and look forward to future videos.
@Mr.PoopyDoobertPants
12 күн бұрын
Nice craftsmanship, but the video title is a bit misleading. You’ve got a workshop with $10,000+ worth of high end tools. Not exactly DIY friendly.
@klaaskingma7435
12 күн бұрын
In some of his other speaker video’s he’s said you don’t need the fancy tools. You can build it with less specialised tools too. He has the tools though so he’s using them
@itsJoshW
12 күн бұрын
That's not misleading. I did this with a table saw and a harbor freight trim router a year ago for the drivers lol. More expensive tools just makes it faster.
@jparky1972
12 күн бұрын
You could do this DIY. I'd actually argue this is probably one of his easier builds. Buy the MDF from a DIY supply shop that will pre cut the sheets for you. The speaker holes can be cut with a drill and hole saw or jigsaw. I suppose you could even use a coping saw if you don't mind taking your time. If you don't or can't solder. Then buy the crossovers pre built. Trimming the veneer can be done with a knife and sand paper. Trim router not needed. All the sanding can be done by hand. I'd say a drill and a jigsaw are all that is needed to build this. Everything else just makes the job easier. Easily less that £100 / $100 in tools if you buy none branded tools.
@brionlund2467
12 күн бұрын
Sure he does, but all of the things he does in this video can be accomplished with far fewer and less expensive tools. If you don’t know how to use your existing tools to accomplish what he’s doing in this video, then that’s a skill issue, not a tutorial issue.
@lloydChristmas-j6n
12 күн бұрын
Don’t even need tools. Come up with a cut list and send it off to a company like send cut send or just make friends with the guy at a big box and give him a nice tip to cut everything for you. Then, it’s just assembly.
@Mr.sassaman
11 күн бұрын
Watching Zac build stuff just does something to me. Don’t care what he’s actually making, I’m just here for him 😋
@robertt8273
11 күн бұрын
Have to agree with you. He is great to watch. He is a perfectionist and nice to look at. Just takes too long until the next video. I will wait though. Great work Zac!! One observation, as you get older you are going to wish your chop saw table is higher, your back would thank you.
@st0nedpenguin
12 күн бұрын
The dampening efforts are reminding me of the 90s when the craze was mounting all equipment on glass shelves that were floated on tiny pointed feet lol.
@dinostocchero2347
7 күн бұрын
Love how you mounted the AV receiver under the cabinet. Hope you made modifications so that the top of the reveiver air vents are not blocked.
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
11 күн бұрын
For subwoofer enclosures a popular technique to negate resonance is line the inside with fiberglass resin. (Basically takes 6 days, pour the reason in one side..... Let cure then rotate..... Or if you want to spend a lot more, you can get UV cure)
@null6209
10 күн бұрын
Also, good audio lasts for long, so don't be afraid to go into the used market, I got super lucky and this guy that works in a BOSE store sold me his old Klipsch R-26F for 225$ for both No shipping no nothing, he brought them in and I took em. They are by far the best speakers I've ever heard and I am running them off a cheap amp, (I am planning on buying a better amp eventually but you know, to get em going) If you prefer Bass that makes half the neighbourhood tremble you will need a sub, but for me, which I personally enjoy more relaxed bass, they are all I need
@danielprivate7442
11 күн бұрын
My man, be careful mounting your Denon from the top like that. You've covered where the heat is supposed to vent from...and you will overheat and cook your receiver when you drive your speakers at high wattages. They get hot. I know. I have one. I put 5V usb fans on top of mine to keep it cool. Gonna be an expensive mistake.
@ReCyke
10 күн бұрын
I was wondering how he did that,... and then .. why ?
@jackielinde7568
9 күн бұрын
Funny thing is, I have a Dennon AVR, and I've seen those vent holes ALL THE FRICKEN TIME. Didn't think of this. Good catch.
@MP-qn1jw
9 күн бұрын
Speakers? LMFAO!! Those noise makers will never get that amp hot. Soon as they get 25w their coils will melt. lol
@Jimmeh_B
6 күн бұрын
@@MP-qn1jw IF the power resistors in the generic crossover kits, GLUED TO THE TIMBER enclosures don't burn the house to the ground first.
@echtogammut
12 күн бұрын
Lovely "Overnight Sensation" builds. These were my first speaker build, although I dare say they were not as good looking as yours. Unfortunately bouncing sound off of drywall is a poor Atmos height approximation. The only way to get Atmos overhead is to use ceiling mounted speakers. The bouncing thing was created by Dolby and manufactures as a gimmick to encourage people to buy new gear and get a bit of an effect. Most home theater snobs would advise you to just mount 'height channels' and skip Atmos until you punch holes in your ceiling. That said, it is also true that Atmos isn't heavily used in movies and the best Atmos effect is in the Dolby test suite.
@jackielinde7568
9 күн бұрын
Yeah, I've seen reviews that also said not to mess with Atmos because it's not used that much. I have a rear set of Bose 151's that are mounted close to the ceiling and pointed down into the room. I have another set I was going to set up on the sides of the room in a similar fashion... (except things in the room prevented me from doing that.) Not ideal, but ideal for the situation. Again, don't go for perfection, just what's good enough for the situation.
@echtogammut
9 күн бұрын
@@jackielinde7568 That is similar to what I've tried. I used the SVS atmos/height channel guide, angling the speakers down from as high as you can place them to slightly in front of your seats. It works almost as well as in ceiling speakers.
@thedeadblitz
9 күн бұрын
Dude your videos are amazing and super underrated. Such an inspiration no matter the project. Keep doing you man!
@mndlessdrwer
11 күн бұрын
You can absolutely build speakers out of hardwood, but you'll want to add some vibration dampening materials to the inner surface of the panels to prevent them from resonating as much. A thick aluminum-backed or mass-loaded vinyl-backed butyl rubber sheeting would do very nicely. You can also do this for MDF or HDF if you want, it's just not an intrinsic requirement like it is for hardwood construction, since the composition of such materials is already less resonant.
@lassikinnunen
11 күн бұрын
You can break it up to different frequencies with a brace that breaks the surface in to inequal lengths and so on and put damper on the inner surface. Its really not that big of a deal outside of serial production.
@mndlessdrwer
11 күн бұрын
@@lassikinnunen Absolutely! Internal bracing isn't just for strength. I saw a really good video where the guy's goal was never really about strength either and all he did was drill holes through the sides of the cabinet and glue in some 1" wooden dowels to reduce resonance and it seemed to work beautifully based on the before and after demo. Butyl rubber sound dampening is just another relatively easy option if you want to reduce cabinet resonance due to material choice rather than cabinet design. Another option, if you have a flooring store near you that sells off-cuts or remnants, is to carpet the inside of the cabinet with some dense and deep pile carpet. Glue it down and use some staples to keep it in place and it'll definitely reduce standing waves and resonance. Carpet is one of the best materials for sound absorption you can get for cheap. Carpet padding is also great for this as well and you can see about acquiring remnants or off-cuts of that too. My favorite secret for the ideal sound treated room is to just carpet every hard surface with a premium deep-pile carpet and a premium carpet pad. Just glue and staple it to the walls and ceiling as well as the floor and it'll feel like you walked into an anechoic chamber.
@Nobe_Oddy
12 күн бұрын
ummm @ 0:22 what do you mean by "as your Front and Left channels" ??? why just LEFT??? and why FRONT?? don't you mean "you Left and Right channels" ???? I'm confused.. was this a mistake or am I missing something??? 🤷♂
@itsJoshW
12 күн бұрын
It was a mistake, he meant front (center) and right & left lol.
@techguypaul
8 күн бұрын
lol I mean if you're gonna argue form over function for speakers then don't bother building your own and just buy nice looking speakers. Just a waste of effort
@herantd
4 күн бұрын
Exactly, all the parts and all the tools that are needed gonna cost you a lot more than a pair of very decent speakers.
@bpalpha
11 күн бұрын
You're such a good craftsman. These look spectacular. Crossovers don't seem so simple to me.
@cayankeelord3730
2 күн бұрын
Managed to pick-up a pair of Altec Lansing 604-8G speakers with cross-overs, NOS still in their original cardboard shipping boxes at a yard sale. $100 for the pair. I plan on building enclosures for them based on the original plans downloaded from an Altec Lansing connoisseur collectors website. Don't know which enclosures to build yet, as there are three or four different designs. I also acquired a Pioneer SA-9800 amp years ago at an estate sale for $150. I don't think they knew what they had. Can't wait to build the enclosures to test out the Altec's. I don't know if they'll compete with the "Voice of the Theater" Altec Valencia 846U speakers that I inherited from my dad, but we'll see. ( or hear! )
@TheClintB
7 күн бұрын
Just a little tip to keep from burning up those hole saws.... If you will barely start the cut with the hole saw, and then stop. Grab a drill with a drill bit that is maybe three times the width of the kerf of the hole saw blade (So maybe a quarter inch), or bigger, and drill a hole on the inside of the kerf, where the very edge of the drill bit cuts out a tiny piece of the kerf of the hole saw, but all the way across the kerf, so that once it's cut out, the hole doesn't still show. The hole you drilled with the drill should fall out with the middle piece of the circle you cut. Anyway, now continue cutting with the hole saw, and because all that saw dust instantly has somewhere to go, it will quit burning whenever you use the hole saw.
@1981chrisjones
10 күн бұрын
@ZacBuilds Hole Saws... You have to remember that 99% of hole saws do not have material extraction, so you have to keep lifting out of your cut and clear out any material (preferably with compressed air) before continuing. Hope this helps and keep up the good work.
@davidperry4013
12 күн бұрын
I feel like designing and building 3 way 12-inch stand-mount speakers with air core inductor and film foil cap crossovers, bi-amp binding posts. I want it to sound great with pink floyd and ave have a remove back plate so I can mount the drives in such a way that hides the screw holes and be able to caulk the edges so pressure does not leak out of the enclosure.
@Fl4nken
10 күн бұрын
Really cool speaker builds, i love it! small concern about the blocked heat extraction on your reciever setup
@MP-qn1jw
9 күн бұрын
That amp will never stress running those dinky noise makers.
@professormarill3251
11 күн бұрын
Planning to build a set of speakers for my jeep. Thanks for all the good advice
@tray22
2 сағат бұрын
Those are beautify speakers. One tip, blind nuts should really go on the inside of the speaker not the outside. Add some super glue to them to make sure they don't pop out after things are buttoned up.
@JoyRaptor
7 күн бұрын
Those lip edges around the baffle look great but cause a lot of diffraction (canceling) in the mids and highs. Champhers, angled facets, or inch roundovers and driver flush mounting allmost completely solve this and can look quite nice. Clear mids and consistent highs.
@marioStortuga
6 күн бұрын
Step 1 get a house Step 2 Get a garage with woodworking gear Step 3 Build speakers Step 4 Buy speakers (much cheaper) Step 5 Watching cause I love this stuff
@altosack
7 күн бұрын
I know a lot about sound and wood working, and I would do a number of things differently than you did here. However, I don't think most of the differences will _make_ enough differences for the average person to detract from the intent of the video: "BUILD speakers; don't BUY them!" Your presentation, video quality, and editing are all quite good, which adds to the "You can do this!" vibe; well done. Additionally, anyone watching the evolution of your system can see they can start with two bookshelf stereo speakers and get more complicated and challenging from there (if they want!) without starting over. 👍
@dhgodzilla1
12 күн бұрын
Kermit the Frog is also a Carpenter
@lolybube
12 күн бұрын
Not trying to hate or anything like that but didn't you already build those speakers and also make a video about it or am I just confusing something?
@dougbrown7150
12 күн бұрын
He made a natural wood version. He explained why he's replacing them in this one
@JEDSaje15
12 күн бұрын
He took all his previous speaker vids and put them in 1 video. This is a re-run episode LOL
@lolybube
12 күн бұрын
@@JEDSaje15 oh okay thanks
@Nikonfanboy1982
10 күн бұрын
Zac. Nice build. I am going to do this hopefully soon one day as soon as I am done remodeling my house (so never). But I have a bone to pick with you. Will you PLEASE for the love of god, give that Monstera a moss pole. You're a wood worker you have no excuse.. There are BEAUTIFUL builds you can make some KZitem videos on and that poor baby is growing every direction and has no support. I look forward to seeing my suggestion video come to life.
@DrLoveQc
12 күн бұрын
You always make great looking wood devices on your channel. I love it. If I can do some constructive points on the setup. - Center channel is the most important one in an HT. I would use the same drivers as the left-right channels and not a smaller size to keep the sound signature exact from speakers to speakers. I would even space them more or add another driver if any plans call for it. It really make a hige difference -the new tower speakers are nice, but they dont fit the other ones. I would keep the same look for all of them even if that 45 angle can screw a bit the sound. - i would space as much as I can from the wall and use some isoacoustic feets on all my speakers. Sound like a gimmic I know, but thoses feeds/stand really impact the sound. I would use them also for the dolby atmos over the towers. - I would look into mdf sealer like shellac to close the wood and make it super smooth, even more on sides. Also look at some videos from "Hifiside" for a piano finish on some part of your speakers. Lot of work but the result is so nice and profesional. Great content, I really like all the videos!!
@inayathchoudhury
12 күн бұрын
OMG I’m building a speaker for one of my classes this is so helpful!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
@masondegaulle5731
11 күн бұрын
I have those 3M bt earmuff/headphones, possibly the best earmuffs I've ever used, and great quality sound to boot. I've been tinkering with the idea of making some new fronts, Yours look great, time to pull my finger out!
@tonep3168
6 күн бұрын
Oh those baffles! (Centre speaker) That makes them very directional, and possibly self reflective… I also would have used larger drivers in the centre speaker, as you want it to go down to 80Hz, and a larger volume cabinet would also help with that, and better fit the shelf your putting it on. Oh, and spade terminals are notorious for developing resistance and bad connections as they age.
@mikeyfoofoo
11 күн бұрын
Nice builds! I'd love to see you build a Sonos Move with a battery charging dock. Bonus points if you can build two and get them to Sync and play in stereo.
@RetroZero64
11 күн бұрын
I was taught that allen key trick by one of my coworkers except instead of a clamp, saw, and eye protection, we used bolt cutters and the patented "squint and look away" technique
@loudroarTV
4 күн бұрын
I would love to see you implement BASS SHAKERS into your setup!!
@miscbits6399
7 күн бұрын
FWIW, my 1983-puchased Kef C60s were made out of 40mm (1.75 inch) MDF - and weighed as much as you'd expect As others have mentioned, internal volume matters, as does the shape of the cabinet (parallel internal faces is a _bad_ thing but most people go with it as a compromise) and positioning of the vent in addition to the diameter/length of the port Personally, I'd add clip on grilles. Not everyone likes to look at the drivers and it keeps probing fingers off the surfaces Making a "strappy picture framey" thing is a matter of using a ratchet strap and cutting some wood blocks to suit Crimping, then soldering makes the connections even LESS reliable than a properly done crimp (crimps apply hundrreds of tons per square inch on the joint and the assembly cold welds itself over time) GIven you have a router, rounding the inside of the window braces should be a no-brainer (less scratching when stuffing the things) and to be honest I'd be highly tempted to use the dynamat on the inside of all the cabinets toppped off with the same acoustic panelling you used to focus the height speakers (all that really matters inside the cabinets is bass. You want to kill virtually everything inside the cabinet above its resonant frequency as that's unwanted Modern design software would allow a lot more tuning of the cabinet than old-style slide rule design. With a 3d router I'd seriously consider shaping the inside of the cabinet faces to act as a waveguide AND give scattering of the higher frequencies. All that said, Covid has killed my hearing (I went deaf for 3 months and top end sensitivity is gone) so would likely all be lost on me
@singerap
4 күн бұрын
Water-born contact cement is a lot nicer to deal with. Additionally, I would recommend a "J" roller to apply the pressure needed to form a good bond.
@TheJensss
12 күн бұрын
Great build and video! Maybe a high quality and loud party speaker build are next?
@TheFotoGuys
12 күн бұрын
Please build a subwoofer as well! That would be very cool to watch!
@genuismensa
6 күн бұрын
When you are doing dados, switch over to high tooth count laminate/fine cut blade. They take a full width cut, instead of it being tapered when you use a ripping/cross cut generic style blade. That means you get flat, smooth bottom like a dado stack without all the extra setup.
@HenAndPenn
11 күн бұрын
Love every project you have shared. You should use non BT headphones to protect that smart brain of yours sir! Sorry just trying to look out for
@augurkur
11 күн бұрын
Click bait title. This doesn't replace a Sonos in any way. This is just regular 1990s stereo speakers.
@gamebent
12 күн бұрын
I have veneered speaker cabinets using pvc glue and an iron. Much less fuss and still stuck 10 years later. Nice job in any event..
@ReclaimerTyphoon
11 күн бұрын
I just shoe-horned in some random speakers I had lying around to get a couple of Atmos channels into my system - finally upgrading from my AVR made in... 1998, to an incredible Goodwill find that had... you know... modern stuff, like HDMI ports, and, surprisingly, a little bit of Atmos support. It's subtle. I definitely need to create some shrouds to direct the sound. My go-to scene to test Atmos is Rogue One, right after the young Jyn hides in the cave, there's a lightning storm, and it was convincingly real/vertical when I was using Atmos for Headphones on Xbox. I can also attest to having a good center-channel (and discrete surround sound) turning one into an audio snob. I have a full-range floor-speaker as my center channel (my dad gave me my speakers, he was using a little thing that had no treble or bass), and it's night and day. I love having the center channel, and it really sucked for the month and a half when the old AVR died and we were just using the sound out of the projector/a soundbar we had lying around. Woof.
@coreydavoll7622
23 күн бұрын
Very cool! You should definitely build a subwoofer
@ZacBuilds
23 күн бұрын
I've already started putting together a parts list haha. As soon as I started thinking about it I got too excited to back down. I think I've found a way to make it wireless so you can position it anywhere in your room.
@itsJoshW
12 күн бұрын
Subwoofers are fun! Dont use wood glue for them, use the strong polyurethane glue and be sure to use a double baffle. I also copied a few kits seen on parts express, except I made mine double thickness for mass. My biggest regret was not using a stronger glue (like the polyurethane gorilla glue), but it still is fantastic during most frequencies. That was also the first speaker I tried a box port, which was fun lol.
@richardcampbell8685
12 күн бұрын
@@ZacBuilds that’ll be cool
@gamesnic
12 күн бұрын
@@itsJoshW I just use screws, mostly because the subwoofer I built was a 4th bandpass made to be hidden under my bed
@bear4759
6 күн бұрын
I can hardly wait for the sub build now It will be my 1st speaker build - woo hoo I already have the Polk S60's & Definitive Technology BP2006TL speakers After I build the sub, I just have to figure out how to connect it up to my Yamaha AX-592 amp But I will cross that bridge when I come to it
@unic0de-yvr
10 күн бұрын
In addition to having uniform density, MDF is also much more "anisotropic" with respect to rigidity and elasticity, than regular wood lumber - meaning it has roughly the same elastic properties in all directions (at least compared to wood, whose elasticity depends heavily on whether the forces go along or across the grain.)
@jeremyf1901
12 күн бұрын
I wish I could build stuff like this. Great work man. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a ps1 mod video. Especially after the 39th anniversary reveal from Sony.
@AndrewBrierley
11 күн бұрын
love the video, I built my Atmos speakers by cutting a Tannoy centre speaker in half and shaping into wedges, works great. My only question is why didn't you face the Atmos speakers veneer to match the floor standing speakers?
@psibug565
11 күн бұрын
As far as I know wood isn’t bad for making a speaker. The problem comes when you want to make a stereo pair as it is hard to get two bits of wood to be identical acoustically. At least that’s how a review of a VERY expensive pair of Italian wood speaker explained it. Find the idea of making speakers interesting but my main pair are only 20 years old so don’t feel the need to change them yet. Still great to see some classic ideas for making speakers put into action with the floor standers. Remember the isolation feet are not just to make it sound better for you. They also reduce sound transfer through your house. Edit: One of the best films for demonstrating the up firing/ceiling speakers is Patriot’s Day in DTS-X on Blu-Ray. I hear it is better to use a disc based sound track as there is less compression and there is more content on 4k disc’s. I haven’t changed to 4k discs because of the lack of support for Atmos on Blu-Ray I lost trust in them providing content.
@Psikeomega
11 күн бұрын
So I have looked at building my own loudspeakers in the past. There is a pile of science, a pile of "art" and a pile of superstition about it. About the best i have found is if you want a nice hardwood speaker but dont want to tune the size and shape, or pack a ton of sound insulation to deal with echos, MDF is great for build and then you can always ad veneer to give it the hardwood look (as was done in the video). One of the things I heard from an oldtimer speaker builder was he swore that when you glue the cabinet together, you never want to drive the tacks deeper than you can pull them out when youre done, and then putty the holes before you veneer it. He saidnhe could hear the difference. Ive never heard the two side by side, so I dont know if it actually matters. His favorite speakers he said still had the hardwood veneer to donsome fancy sound magic, but also had polyfill stuffed vinyl upholstery on the outside, to help soak up the echos in the room. I mean, yhey looked like a dogs breakfast. But he swore you could hear a difference. Nowadays, sound foam is cheap enough, and its decent styling to put sound foam in your room so ... 🤷♂️
@miroberghegen2069
12 күн бұрын
nice man! considdering to make speakers of my own aswell
@leighgray8537
12 күн бұрын
Allen Key - Hex Key, new ones sounds a tiny bit muffled but that could just be KZitem compressing it or what it's sitting on having a slight vibration, I think they sound great, can you do a video on how to isolate vibration to get the best sound out of your bass speakers? After the fact of course lol
@NotFound-ll5kc
2 күн бұрын
7:20 Soldering crimp connectors usually is not a great idea. Liquid solder is wicked into the stranded cable and dries, creating a sharp transition from strands to solid mass. Repeated flexing of the cable at this junction can quickly cause the cable strands to fray and the cable lose current current capacity or even break outright. In your case the joint will be essentially undisturbed within the speaker cabinet so it should be fine, but if it was subject to frequent handling it would likely fail quite quickly.
@T1cksandLeeches
11 күн бұрын
Sorry, I can't help myself...keep the heat on the connection you're trying to make just a little bit longer. Those look like cold solder joints that have a lot higher chance of breaking loose over time. I'd use flux paste instead of the solder/flux combined junk too. Flux is almost more important than heat when it comes to a great soldering job. Cleaning wires with alcohol before putting the flux on is usually a good idea on wire that's been exposed for a while, or if you just twisted them with your fingers. It all depends on what your definition of "permanent" is lol. Soldering is some solid therapy once you nail it.
@marcgautsch9737
12 күн бұрын
Hi, i am realy fan of your video. I love the skill you have to build thigs with some kind of perfection and aestetic sens. Just a little thing : when you build speakers box and put the front panel behind the lateral/top/bottom panel edge your are modifying the speaker frequency response. This must be taking in account when the crossover is developped. It is the same with driver positions on front panel.
@MetalMan1245
11 күн бұрын
Definitely want to see you build a subwoofer, sounds fun.
@quinndirks5653
11 күн бұрын
is doug demuro your brother? similar sounding voice. Every time you say "this" I'm like here we go with a doug demuro video
@adriantjuuh
12 күн бұрын
really great video as allways !!!
@nunocampos1805
12 күн бұрын
Still hoping you'll revise the tower speakers in the future to have the atmos modules inside them, like some Klipsch speakers have them. And I'm sure if you have atmos modules for the rear speakers the immersion will be much better. But overall , you did a fantastic job. Must be great watching a movie and then look at the speakers and think "I made these".
@kayosfrawg
11 күн бұрын
When doing the height speaker wiring you could save yourself some time and moving your setup around by pulling 2 new wires using the existing wires.
@DonnieMulligan
12 күн бұрын
Nice Job! Great improvement with the towers. I've enjoyed watching the process, the mistakes, adjustments, and growth. Nice video, editing, and info. I'm still a bit confused with your Atmos cabinets though. Why did you recess the baffle? I've never seen anyone do this. Even with the sound damping material, you are essentially creating a megaphone. The thin sound damping material only works for certain frequencies. It won't stop full range diffraction. Also, the angle of your Atmos speakers looks too shallow. Just prop it forward with a book and run your test again. Diffraction and bad angles might be why you are struggling to hear a lot of height effects. I know your receiver can compensate some, but it can solve everything. Not an expert, just a guess.
@jbg6961
12 күн бұрын
Nice speakers 👍 i think a home built sub with a dayton 15 and an pa amp would be an nice upgrade
@casperunnerup
11 күн бұрын
The feet places inwards on the cabinet bottom makes them easier to tip over. Plus T-nuts are leaky. You should really seal them up
@Sc1Z
11 күн бұрын
Nice job! I would have slotted the braces to give them a little more to glue and hold and maybe used a router on the inside to help it not be a sharp edge too. TL:DR great job, I needlessly over complicate things.
@st0nedpenguin
12 күн бұрын
Mids are often overlooked but they're so beneficial for voices, particularly male ones.
@stephenjervis4426
10 күн бұрын
Bit of a tip for anyone considering something similar - CA glue doesn't like heat, and it's also a fairly brittle bond so vibration's not the best... with that in mind I'd recommend not CA gluing crossover components to particle board...
@drakepamplin8823
12 күн бұрын
Not sure why every video of yours has a ton of people showing up and complaining about things like the price of your tools or how you made your projects. I think your passion for DIY work that has led you to investing in high end tools that let you make whatever you want, however you want to is super cool. I cannot wait to see you make a functional car or something out of walnut only to have a bunch of haters show up. I will have the popcorn ready!
@ginarae5739
6 күн бұрын
Excellent Video and Work 🎉.. I have to agree with others 'save $500 by making your own,.. with a multi-$1000 workshop' 😂 Tis why I bought my last AV speakers, $400 online ❤
@itsJoshW
12 күн бұрын
Link the Soldering Station? (Link is broken lol). I've also built 6 speakers so far, love building them. Subwoofer builds for theaters are incredibly fun, too lol.
@MickelMart
11 күн бұрын
I love the look of those, but I have small children, so an open speaker design will have to wait. 😂
@JasonCarr1979
12 күн бұрын
Yes, pleas build a subwoofer. I went with speakerbox design like in car audio and hid it under the couch--stealth style.
@andrewlane6958
11 күн бұрын
Your hole saws aren't that dull. You're heating up the glue that holds the MDF together, and it's clogging the teeth on the hole saw. Every 1/4" or so you drill down, put the saw in reverse, and push it down in your hole again to clean out the teefers.
@epsilon1670
12 күн бұрын
Great work but you know what you could just buy sonos speakers and not deal with any of this and get an alright sounding initial setup
@SenileOtaku
11 күн бұрын
And have Sonos decide to cancel support for your speakers and send a firmware flash to brick them. Nope, Sonos has screwed over enough customers already for anyone to give them any more money.
@Divyesh_Sinha
7 күн бұрын
2:29 that wood split its always better to use pilot holes and screw them than using nails overtime they hold better Plus nails dont hold the panel enough even while the glue cures
@1962sjm
12 күн бұрын
Great video! 1 question though. How did you mount your receiver to the bottom shelf?
@cesarfilho97
12 күн бұрын
Same question here
@modelcitizen1977
12 күн бұрын
A better question is why? That's like the most important opening on the box for heat to escape through. Looks cool, but surely shortens the life of the receiver.
@PencilParasite
11 күн бұрын
Zac : rip Sonos ! Sonus Faber: hold my pizza !
@ryanbartlett672
11 күн бұрын
Great job! Thanks
@Tyantreides
11 күн бұрын
wow reminds me to the old times in my kids room then i tried to pimp my speakers. To be clear: this has nothing to do with doin it right. Speakers that sound great at the end are results of calculations an precise building. And at last the positioning and the setup brings a lot. When i see someone that is mounting his AV reciever under a piece of wood im totaly convinced that he has no clue what he is doing. So at the end this is a nice way to burn your money and having crap sounding semi good locking boxes in your living room instead of the real home cinema experience that you get if you buy a real speakerset that is paired with that denon. But you can buy a decent car and using it to bring the trash down to the road as well.
@xsixinfantryx
2 күн бұрын
well you need height reflected from the rear too. you cant just do it from the front. Generally the front DOES only give screen height. The rear gives overhead. In my experience anyway. Probably wrong but, when trying to reflect sound vs having actual overhead speakers, thats what i feel like ive always heard
@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse
11 күн бұрын
I like the before and after comparison like my tiny desk speakers let me hear any kind of difference :D I still don't get the spines... what do they do?
@its9429
12 күн бұрын
Uh yeah! This is such a great channel.
@FarFromEngineering
11 күн бұрын
The thumbnail says "RIP Sonos". I might have missed it, but where it the central feature of Sonos, aka the multi room system?
@carrioncrow8191
8 күн бұрын
Zac knows that we want to see that sub video
@RobertJBareIII
12 күн бұрын
7:20 Unless I'm mistaken, I believe those style of connectors are intended to be crimped on.😅
@polkhigh_33
12 күн бұрын
1) In the original video he mentioned that he doesnt own crimp tongs yet. 2) I'd prefer soldering the sleeve connector anyways. Soldering still provides the most flawless conductivity which is important with audio systems.
@RobertJBareIII
11 күн бұрын
@@polkhigh_33 Fair enough on the first point, do what you have to do. Though I'm not sure if I subscribe to the thinking on the second point. Though my experience is more with car audio, the hot solder can wick into the stranded wiring when soldering at that angle and would potentially make the wire able to break with any sort of stress applied the cable before the connector. Crimp connections are used in plenty of sensitive connection applications and I don't believe the perceived benefits of soldering a connector here outweigh the potential downsides. To reiterate, It's not that serious in the context of this video and is probably fine for something that won't move or experience the forces audio equipment in a car would. But even still I think that train of thought could be flawed.
@lassikinnunen
11 күн бұрын
@@polkhigh_33Hifi folks can believe all sorts of funky things like that the solder layer makes a difference(never mind the layer in the amp etc). It doesn't really matter, crimping in cable is just more convienient and harder to mess up in serial production.
@polkhigh_33
11 күн бұрын
@@lassikinnunen Well I'm not one of those Hifi folks, but a trained electrician. If I was investing thousands of dollars into a 7.1 system I'd certainly do my best to avoid any unnecessary transition restistances. Tbh I'd have to fight my inner monk to use plug connectors in the first place :D
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