Having a pillar women would totally distract Joseph in an instant.
@TheWarmachine375
6 жыл бұрын
And that'd be hilarious for that said Pillar Woman is an ally of Joseph or a part of Kars' Fitness Squad if she survived the Pillar People massacre.
@XG417
5 жыл бұрын
NIIIICE
@the_Red_Star
5 жыл бұрын
No doubt, the first thing Joseph does or says when meeting Santana is wonder if there are any pillar women.
@LordVader1094
5 жыл бұрын
Cars and AC/DC really should have anticipated that and made sure one survived to join them. Lol
@bumblebabble18
5 жыл бұрын
Okay but imagine instead of marrying Suzi Q Jospeh marries the Pillar Woman instead. Part 3 has Jotaro as a quarter Pillar Man on a quest to save his half Pillar Woman mother from the vampire DIO When Jospeh is caught cheating in Part 4 his wife gives him a death by snu snu
@Beriorn
7 жыл бұрын
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: where even the nameless background extras that were killed 10.000 years ago as part of the villain's backstory strike fabulous poses.
@autisticduck3071
4 жыл бұрын
Thot Destroyer You already know one was called Nike
@NepetasShippingWall1642
4 жыл бұрын
Thot Destroyer and those are only the guys! imagine what kind of names the girls would have!
@NepetasShippingWall1642
4 жыл бұрын
Star Platinum hmmmm.......yeah,why not? :p
@DefinitelyNotEmma
4 жыл бұрын
Jojo is all about these poses :v
@AlliwantisAIDSHelpImKidnapped
3 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Att4ck Petra
@darrylferguson3622
5 жыл бұрын
If Kars had let a Pillar woman join his group all those years ago, Joseph would have lost from the start.
@gustavopereira4924
4 жыл бұрын
Joseph would renegate his humanity in the very start
@voodooozo3755
4 жыл бұрын
Damn, if there was a way of becoming pillarman, (well I wonder if Giorno isnt actually able to turn people into pillarmen who the hell knows right now?) I would defnitely become pillarman and get some gut thicc pillargal.
@teodornikolov6391
4 жыл бұрын
now we all understand why kars was always so pissed of all the time
@darrylferguson3622
4 жыл бұрын
@Aspiring Marauder Yeah, Kars plan sounded good on paper but in the long run it would be a rather boring result.
@georgeliu6261
3 жыл бұрын
@Aspiring Marauder His *boyfriend* Excuse me, *WHAT*
@Dekomlev
8 жыл бұрын
so basically, Kars is the DIO of their race
@codafett
7 жыл бұрын
Only difference seems to be that Kars was fully willing to share his power.
@GnosisZX
7 жыл бұрын
codafett indeed he wanted his race to ascend to the level of gods humans once believed them to be
@darsch853
7 жыл бұрын
He was actually a good man rip
@MrManueldx
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah , but he is still resting in peace in space
@neardarkroad1347
7 жыл бұрын
can't stand sunlight.... *THE FREAKING LIGHT FROM THE MOON IS SUNLIGHT TOO!*
@justarandomsovietofficerwi2023
4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that Kars did all this only for him to be yeeted into space by a man who thought that his own mother was hot.
@daddychill02
3 жыл бұрын
Lol when you put it like that...
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, tho. And it's not like his people were even right, as Kars defeated them and yet did not destroy all life on earth, instead figuring out how to feed more efficiently and also hibernate. I honestly think the Pillar Men should have won and the outcome wouldn't have been that bad.
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065
3 жыл бұрын
it's called plot armor, the protagonists of jojo always win thanks to plot armor because the villains are usually so overpowered if the story was actually logical the protagonists won't even last a second against them, from Kars, to Dio to Diavolo, all the villains only lost because of plot armor
@vn9574
2 жыл бұрын
@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 it's not only plot armor, but plot armor mixed with by the heroes using quick thinking to outsmart the villains. It kinda makes plot armor more realistic like that. (Even though it's not really still that realistic)
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065
2 жыл бұрын
@@vn9574 kars for example had like 500 iq he was the smartest being alive there's no way he'd lose in a battle of thinking.
@na00097
Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad to live among a man like Hirohiko Araki who has lived long enough to share with us the story of his people
@bababoi5815
11 ай бұрын
lmao
@Complete_Stranger7050
11 ай бұрын
He is the ultimate life form
@UMadara-s1i
10 ай бұрын
well he is a pillar-man
@Darth_Bateman
8 жыл бұрын
Those Pillar Ladies tho. . . . . . . .
@MrTheil
8 жыл бұрын
I wish we got to see them in Battle Tendency :/
@FIENDXIX
8 жыл бұрын
Yea... kind of an idiot move for Kars to wipe out the entire female population for his species...
@MrTheil
8 жыл бұрын
FIENDXIX He could have repopulated THEN powered them up with the Stone Mask. That way, a race of immortals could have been born. Goddamn it Kars
@FIENDXIX
8 жыл бұрын
A. Theil Exactly! genius my ass a real genius would have had a race of immortal vampire gods in a matter of years!,
@enggigg6644
8 жыл бұрын
Well he did come up with the stone mask wich we still have no idea how the fuck it works.
@DraculaCronqvist
7 жыл бұрын
I think that people are forgetting one important thing. Kars, Esidisi, Wamuu and (maybe) Santana all used the Stone Mask, thus enhancing their abilities. "Ordinary" Pillar Men were probably much weaker than them and didn't have eternal life (they still had children, so they weren't completely immortal), nor elemental modes, likely (Santana had no elemental mode, which leads me to believe that he's an ordinary Pillar Man unlike his three comrades). Remember, there was an old Pillar Woman in this very scene. if she was immortal, why would she look old unless she was in the last stages of her life? The Pillar Men we see in the main story are basically the vampires of the Pillar Men - or rather, they are the Pillar Men and the race they originally belonged to which is shown here had no name.
@romajikaiser8450
5 жыл бұрын
DraculaCronqvist Santana is immune to hamon
@sharilshahed6106
5 жыл бұрын
The Pillar Men used to devour the Vampires, or specifically Santana did by turning them first via the stone mask and then making them suck up other human. That's how he became stronger than the other Pillar men. Theoretically the regular Pillar Men were still stronger than vampires, but weaker against hamon. However Hamon is still effective against the surviving 4. They rightfully feared that a hamon user with the right mastery will definitely be their doom before Joseph came along.
@manuelmateo3392
5 жыл бұрын
@@romajikaiser8450 Santana isn't immune to Hamon, he was resistant to Joseph's weak Hamon at the time. Pillar Men skin automatically repels weak amounts of Hamon and sunlight, but their organs show no such resistance, since Joseph uses Hamon to tear Santana in half in that very fight.
@silvat1193
5 жыл бұрын
The Pillar Men, unaffected by the Stone Mask, seem to have extraordinarily long lives (Kars doesn't show visible signs of aging despite being 90,000-100,000 years old by the time he made the mask), but it's noted that it was only with the Stone Mask that Kars became 'immortal'. From a human perspective though, they'd seem pretty ageless.
@EnrocaLaRoca
5 жыл бұрын
Actually, couldn't Santana turn his ribs into blades?
@QuintetMagician
8 жыл бұрын
So if Wammu and Santana (according to the wiki) are 12,000 and 10,000 years old in part 2 (respectively), then that means a Wamuu is 2,000 years older than Santana, meaning since he was a baby when Kars and Eisidisi took them away, that a 2,000 year old (at LEAST) Pillar Man would still be a baby. Huh. Interesting.
@shinshun6140
8 жыл бұрын
This hurts my brain a little bit.
@QuintetMagician
8 жыл бұрын
Shin Shun XD yeah, I overthink things a lot
@NeoGamemaster
8 жыл бұрын
Araki forgot
@TheTheThe_
7 жыл бұрын
Archer Bennington and they become fully grown adults in 8 human years.
@lapotato9140
7 жыл бұрын
when does it say that Pillar men become adults in 8 human years?
@FIENDXIX
8 жыл бұрын
Geez they were basically a peaceful society comprised entirely of extremely long lived attractive perfect bodied models who didnt like sunlight... wtf Kars! why would you need to be all powerful when you had a paradise situation, at the very least you should have spared one or two of the females,
@namishusband818
8 жыл бұрын
But sex is useless! Why else would Kars not have a female Pillarman as an ally?
@enggigg6644
8 жыл бұрын
True he could give any less shits about his race he just wanted to become the ultimate lifeform and look were that got him.
@namishusband818
8 жыл бұрын
Enggi GG Perfect, but forever alone.
@enggigg6644
8 жыл бұрын
The Greater Ark I mean hif him alone caused all that trouble imagine a bunch of pillar men with his power they would easily deplete earth of its natural resources.
@SliverEmperor
8 жыл бұрын
Really, the issue was Kars's pure ambition. He knew his race was powerful already, but he wondered why they could be vulnerable to a little thing like sunlight...so he decided to figure out a way around that. I guess along the way, he realized that overcoming that weakness would also make his race effectively unstoppable, so he picked up some serious delusions of godhood. Throw in a forced massacre of his own race and several millennia to obsess over his goal, and it's small wonder he's gone completely nuts by the present time.
@xxdomoxxkunxx
8 жыл бұрын
I like how this presents itself like a anime unto itself
@lordfridge4849
5 жыл бұрын
lmao
@NepetasShippingWall1642
4 жыл бұрын
Domo Von Imperium it'll be an interesting anime,i guess
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I wish it had been. We got to learn so little about one of Araki's best ideas. So frustrating.
@irdsqrgitro
2 жыл бұрын
This side-backstory of a Pillarmen in Jojo's Phantom blood is more solid than the story of entire Animes
@mooganify
2 жыл бұрын
Its disappointing that all this creative lore was just thrown away for other ideas that clearly werent thought through *ahem* Stands *ahem*
@adriansimonsen6533
4 жыл бұрын
When you realize that Kars and Esidisi are canonically better parents than Jotaro
@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu5323
4 жыл бұрын
they left santana behind though
@Benja_Superperfecto
3 жыл бұрын
@@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu5323 but he was old
@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu5323
3 жыл бұрын
@@Benja_Superperfecto wasn't santana like the youngest of the 4 pillar men
@Benja_Superperfecto
3 жыл бұрын
@@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu5323 yeah, but still, he was 10.000
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
@@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu5323 Yeah, but he was old enough to run the temple alone. It's a shame Araki never gave us more info on the details of that situation. Kars reaction to Joseph bragging that he killed Santana was the only time Kars came off as villainous to me, to be fair. That was pretty harsh. Santana seemed like the Pillar Man equivalent of a teen/young adult, so maybe they had a legitimate falling out we don't know about, as all of the Pillar Men just accepted it and moved on, even Esidisi who is the most emotional. Man, whatever the case, though, I felt really bad for Santana and rooted for the Pillar Men because Joseph is a dumbass. Santana did nothing wrong.
@najihaharbainvevo2322
6 жыл бұрын
Man, If the pillar people were extraordinarily long lived, that old lady could might have been born at the time when dinosaurs were still roaming.
@avruvimtu2204
5 жыл бұрын
More like 300,000 years before or something.
@govinlock8568
5 жыл бұрын
Dinosaurs were extinct 65 million years ago, while Pillar people raised about 10 million years ago, and the old lady could aged 1 million years old.
@thedemonhater7748
5 жыл бұрын
Najihah ArbainVEVO …I doubt they were THAT old. Kars looked relatively young- but he was still a grown adult at a few thousand years of age. I’d have to guess that a normal pillar man could live about 10,000 years, but Kars used the stone mask to become immortal.
@Zeew707
5 жыл бұрын
@@thedemonhater7748 Kars created/finished the mask when he was about 90.000 years old though, and he still looked young at that age despite not wearing the mask yet. So there's no way original/normal Pillar Men only lived up to 10.000 years old, their life expectancy was probably around 200.000 at least. But I agree that they're most likely not as old as dinosaurs
@snifey2233
4 жыл бұрын
Even saw Godzilla on the way
@spiderclabaslashiearea8984
Жыл бұрын
This actually made Kars way scarier in a way. Bro literally had such a strong ambition to the point where he was willing to kill off his entire race.
@Raximus3000
11 ай бұрын
Though i do wonder if some did not survive. Would everyone just blindly attack him? Some could have survived though i am guessing they are still hiding being afraid of Kars.
@spiderclabaslashiearea8984
10 ай бұрын
@@Raximus3000 makes sense, but their probably just living normal lives, so we wouldn't think much of them.
@ohhellwhereami2574
3 ай бұрын
@@Raximus3000kars was awakend for centuries you think pillar men could sneak like that?
@Raximus3000
3 ай бұрын
@@ohhellwhereami2574 Was his goal ever to wipe out his race? No, he was just convinced they died out which seems pretty absurd.
@ohhellwhereami2574
3 ай бұрын
@@Raximus3000 either kars would make him join his team or eliminate him to not wanna be God of world
@Nate-ik8cf
8 жыл бұрын
Is anyone else weirded out that The Piller Men's Race were literally just metrosexural feminine men and fabulous ladies with the uncanny ability to know just how to pose in the weirdest ways?
@kenansabic2901
8 жыл бұрын
It is perfection.
@lapotato9140
8 жыл бұрын
Well-Mannered Nate why aren't humans like that
@Famygdala
7 жыл бұрын
There must be a way for Man to achieve that level of style...! I shall trek to Mexico and find it! The secrets of posing left behind by the Pillarmen!
@lapotato9140
7 жыл бұрын
Right, because his use of the word "feminine" was _so_ derogatory. the only person who needs a reality check here is you, pal.
@ultimatepredatorx2937
7 жыл бұрын
im of mexican indiginous decent (mexican native or indian mexican if you like, yes we have thouse too not just the U.S), aztect and olmec from my grandparents. thouse this mean i hold the secrets to of pillar men posing and muscles?!!!
@justanormalcat1839
5 жыл бұрын
You see those Pillar Ladies, see Araki isn't gay, he's attracted to woMEN
@frostyfrostin459
4 жыл бұрын
Just a Normal Cat i see u evrywhere
@theonlychickensama8353
4 жыл бұрын
@@Comical1984 also Yasuo and all those anime panty shots
@GI0GI0
4 жыл бұрын
@@theonlychickensama8353 anasui panty shots😳
@hardworkingf2p912
4 жыл бұрын
I mean,he has a wife
@majungasaurus6814
3 жыл бұрын
I mean 90% of jojo characters are attractive
@Excalibur5k
7 жыл бұрын
shame we didnt have any pillar woman characters
@titan133760
6 жыл бұрын
You can thank Kars for that
@miquelescribanoivars5049
6 жыл бұрын
Also Araki's editors at the time most likely.
@TheWarmachine375
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they pretty much screwed over combat-capable female characters.
@miquelescribanoivars5049
6 жыл бұрын
Allegedly, Lisa Lisa would have been more prominent in the original manga, with more emphasis on her abbilities as a hamon user, but the idea was scrapped at least partly due to Araki's editor. Again, I'm going by memmory here and I'm unsure about the veracity of the original statement.
@theonlychickensama8353
6 жыл бұрын
Probably for the best the pillar women were killed off. *glares at rule 34 and tumblr peering from the shadows* .... Yep!
@olzu1952
4 жыл бұрын
Wamuu was the favourite kid of Kars and Esidisi. Poor Santana, his dad called him a guard dog
@Nowherebuteverywere333
Ай бұрын
To be fair Esidisi called Wamuu a worm atleast once
@codafett
8 жыл бұрын
It stands to reason that because Kars, Eisidisi and Wammu used the Stone Masks, all three of them would be several times more powerful than your average Pillar Man.
@lapotato9140
8 жыл бұрын
codafett he did win a 2 on [every] fight in this video, so probably
@DraculaCronqvist
7 жыл бұрын
It's actually implied that Santana was the only one not to receive the power-up from the Stone Mask, so he'd be a good gauge for how strong the average pillar man was.
@thephantomthievesofhearts4388
7 жыл бұрын
Lol *stands*
@jonathanjoestar7640
6 жыл бұрын
DraculaCronqvist still very strong i supposed
@caav56
5 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanjoestar7640 And, apparently, he was able to withstand a bit of sunlight, before getting petrified (not disintegrated).
@yorusuyasoul69420
8 жыл бұрын
and he lives fabulously forever
@TheRecmo
8 жыл бұрын
he turned into a meteor tho
@kishinasura1504
8 жыл бұрын
A FABULOUS meteor.
@ulquiorraschiffer1956
8 жыл бұрын
+Kishin Asura lol true dat
@TheWarmachine375
6 жыл бұрын
And he stopped thinking.
@TovKafur
4 жыл бұрын
I love the irony of whole part 2: Stroheim claims to be the Ubermensch, and his theme has verses of "Thus spake Zarathustra", but in fact it's Kars who is literal, textbook Ubermensch: he has his own ideology and morale, and he kills his whole race because they refused to evolve alongside him.
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, except that he killed them because they were trying to kill him. It was tragic.
@TovKafur
3 жыл бұрын
@@ANPC-pi9vu The road to the top means one for sure: in the end, you will be alone.
@guywithsoil1241
Жыл бұрын
Charles Darwin when animals brake his rules:
@deauthorsadeptus6920
Ай бұрын
@@guywithsoil1241"Curse these damn barnacles!" - Darvin, trying to find out wtf are those and what they are related with.
@darkbribe777
5 жыл бұрын
When I saw those pillar ladies. Pants: AWAKEN MY MASTER!
@zachp8163
4 жыл бұрын
Expando Dong Overdrive!!!!
@robinroy7123
4 жыл бұрын
Ayayayay!!
@minecraftoverlordpe2842
6 жыл бұрын
So basically the pillar men achieved a perfect society and then one of them pulled a Dio (or did Dio pull a Karz?) and ruined everything?
@silvat1193
6 жыл бұрын
Minecraft Overlord PE essentially, yes. Though, it’d be pulling a Kars, since he predates Dio by...10,000ish years.
@Unhipsnow
4 жыл бұрын
@@yannkam2127 kars wanted the power of the stone mask to make his race better and conquer the sun so that their biggest crisis will be no more
@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard
4 жыл бұрын
@Tornike Tvalchrelidze Araki also stated that, had Dio known, he would also have cared for kittle Giorno
@majungasaurus6814
3 жыл бұрын
@Tornike Tvalchrelidze he only met pucci long after part 1, in part 1 he definitely didnt care for anyone
@Unhipsnow
3 жыл бұрын
@Sad Life he stopped caring for them because they feared him to the point where they were gonna kill him
@IAMSN
8 жыл бұрын
That fabulous and perfect formed squat from Esidisi at 2:19 though....
@jacobp7037
8 жыл бұрын
such is the way of the Aztec fitness gods
@lapotato9140
7 жыл бұрын
IAMSN those heels are not touching the ground, cyka blayt
@soul9299
6 жыл бұрын
/squat
@voodooozo3755
4 жыл бұрын
@@lapotato9140 but they are touching the ground. The heels stop doing so when kars and acdc jumped but before the jump they were legally squating like real slavs.
@user-zm9wv5up6r
8 жыл бұрын
Dat. Pillar. Woman.
@Famygdala
7 жыл бұрын
We could have had one as part of Kars' Fitness Squad but Araki wasn't yet at teh level where he could tell his editors to fuck off.
@TheWarmachine375
6 жыл бұрын
It's really sad we don't get to see a Pillar Woman. Probably as one of Kars' Fitness Squad or an ally to the Joestars and needed their help to kill Kars once and for all.
@TheWarmachine375
6 жыл бұрын
That works too as well.
@violet-trash
4 жыл бұрын
She looks like the Kirin Monster Hunter girl.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
4 жыл бұрын
Pillar Men turn boys gay, Pillar Women turn girls lesbians. Jojo is truly a masterpiece that is not comprehensible to mere mortals
@glubby2262
3 жыл бұрын
am i the only one that would love to see a spinoff series of jojo revolving around this time period ?? this setting has so much room to be a show of its own even !
@crabbyink9849
2 жыл бұрын
Same especially with the way the music swells when kars eliminates his race and stuff
@dyingscarlet
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on if any of the Pillar race had 'Jo' in their name.
@StarPlatinum7912
11 ай бұрын
Sitcom of kars and esidisi having to raise wamuu and Santana
@dibs6462
Ай бұрын
Lmaooo imagine if one of the very first joestars actually WAS a pillarman who lived with the remaining few of the species who somehow fell in love with a human or something, this could explain why the joestars can survive some of the most absurd injuries
@hubertdenise3100
2 жыл бұрын
It appears that the pillar men race was actually pretty chill and non evil, since they were a peaceful society, which respected their natural limits and the needs of the earth lifeforms to survive hence why they opposed the stone mask because all other life would have been taken.Wammu was probably the closest thing to what the society was like, a non malicious being but one of honour and loyalty
@bitacash
Жыл бұрын
did you lose your head? The Aztecs are not a peaceful society. they are a cruel race, not even sparing their children. read about their culture, punishments, methods of education. Yes, even volleyball, where the losing team is dismembered. so they themselves attacked the kars.
@b-fenix5789
6 ай бұрын
@@bitacashthe pillarmans aren't the Aztecs.
@bitacash
6 ай бұрын
@@b-fenix5789 kzitem.info/news/bejne/wISdzXdugJNpqX4 cultural features, sacrifices of young girls, cultural outfits, paganism, hierarchy, despotism, ranks, pyramids, drawings of the Aztecs and their culture against the background of the ending, the cult of the body, sacrifices in connection with the rules, the Aztec city, . What part of your body did you read/watch jojo?
@Drip_Wooper
2 ай бұрын
I honestly find Kars' hypocrisy somewhat funny, he seems to think less of humans for their hubris, yet he is the same. He exterminated his entire race, rejecting a peaceful life within a near perfect immortal civilization just for more power
@me67galaxylife
Ай бұрын
@@Drip_Wooper He's the sociopath of his race, probably can't take accountability
@Ale-mv3gr
7 жыл бұрын
It seems regular pillarmen were not really that powerful, also, I really like the.friendship between Kars and Esidisi, its a great way to convey an extra dimension to your villains
@DraculaCronqvist
7 жыл бұрын
"Friendship"... Yeah, if that's what you want to call two buff men living together for several thousands of years, who raise two children together. Then again, maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.
@TheWarmachine375
6 жыл бұрын
Ahh, the unfortunate implications.
@AbsoluteMongoloid
5 жыл бұрын
@@DraculaCronqvist I'd raise a child with another man, if he were responsible. Are you insinuating that I'm gay? You'd be very wrong.
@jessepinkmanfan69
2 жыл бұрын
friendship????? naw bruh they married 😭
@haggis357
8 жыл бұрын
1:38 Damn, look at Pillar Grandma's forearm...if you don't eat the food she makes for you she looks like she could beat you up.
@edgargaebolg9307
7 жыл бұрын
Seymour Butts True XD. By the way, she somehow looks like Enyaba
@maximusdarkultima
7 жыл бұрын
by "eat" she basically serves you a living breathing animal and expects you to absorb it like they do all the time
@sketch-eee4165
7 жыл бұрын
maximusdarkultima "ABSORB THE LIFE ESCENCE SONNY and then you get the cookie". n~n
@ilikesaying
7 жыл бұрын
ABSORB THE FUCKING COOKIE
@christopherauzenne5023
7 жыл бұрын
Eat the food sonny or granny will have to drop kick a bitch
@MagillanicaLouM
7 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the actual name of the Pillarmen race is. I don't think that's what they actually refer to themselves as, since that seems to be a manmade term. On a side note; THEM PILLAR LADIES THO, HOT DAYUM
@manuelmateo3392
6 жыл бұрын
Musomania27 They're not real, fam.
@TheWarmachine375
6 жыл бұрын
They're not real is because they're dead and gone. Plus sex is useless.
@Ocean_Lord_derpfish
5 жыл бұрын
judging by their appearance i guess they called the Aztec God
@watertower1989
5 жыл бұрын
@Oliver Zinn *ehem* 0:17
@WarmLusamine
5 жыл бұрын
This ain't Jojolion!
@whensomethingcriesagain
6 жыл бұрын
They're not especially clear here, but they do show that Kars wasn't alone in fighting the other Pillar Men, Esidisi was with him when he did it, and honestly was probably the only reason he succeeded at all, seeing how Kars lacks any sort of ranged attacking
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
Esidisi is such an under rated husbando. Such loyalty! Such passion!
@minanodi5608
2 жыл бұрын
OTP
@imlivingunderyourbed7845
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Kars had other loyalists besides Esidisi but didn't survive the battle.
@mooganify
2 жыл бұрын
@@imlivingunderyourbed7845 Nah I think OP has a good point of pointing out that Esidisi is standing next to him
@pashaliszisis2770
2 жыл бұрын
he wouldnt lose.He had used the mask on himself only thing that could hurt him was the sun or hamon at the time.The weapons the pillar men used were useless
@juannaym8488
6 жыл бұрын
That old pillar lady could've been Kars' mother
@user-wp5no6cn2b
Ай бұрын
@@FunnyFishFart33 why not both?
@Woodsy2575
7 жыл бұрын
Kars and his partner wink wink nudge nudge
@MsMvsc
6 жыл бұрын
Woodsy2575 I ship it
@alissaoldham7128
6 жыл бұрын
They have some kind of relationship they both raised two kids together
@starsfalldown1234567
5 жыл бұрын
I love that it was a subtle hint to them being gay. I mean gay people are everywhere they can be heroes, normals and in this case power hungry villains.
@AbsoluteMongoloid
5 жыл бұрын
@bootyeater 69 That is possible as well. People these days don't know what brotherly love is.
@moahammad1mohammad
5 жыл бұрын
@bootyeater 69 If they say no homo, it ain't homo
@jotaroiv2189
4 жыл бұрын
"Dio: I reject my humanity jojo!" "Kars: I reject my pillar race!"
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
Technically they rejected him
@villals
3 жыл бұрын
Kars:stop rejecting me:,( Sun:haha ya have to wait like 90k years for that boi
@VERGILGASM
2 жыл бұрын
Pillarmanity?
@gamescentrel2951
2 жыл бұрын
Kira : I reject and unordinary life Diavolo i reject being found out pucci I reject not reaching heaven Funny valentine, I reject not collecting body parts
@reywe963
Жыл бұрын
Me: i reject the Creators Idea of Making Peace to hell
@Elsantopo
8 жыл бұрын
the funny fact in here is that the guys do more sexy poses than girls...no homo
@juneraphsody
4 жыл бұрын
_Me likey, me likey a lot_
@Magma09
4 жыл бұрын
that's funny.Considering that you're talking about Jojo here
@t0jifushigur087
3 жыл бұрын
U damn right bruh..
@janfranceskyle4352
3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@yorusuyasoul69420
2 жыл бұрын
Remember poses does matter than talent
@LordVader1094
4 жыл бұрын
"To search for the ultimate power, and the perfect body." Literally the Quest for Gains.
@angelmarquezoramas4356
7 жыл бұрын
Dude...those Pillar Ladies... *Lenny Face*
@neodarkend
5 жыл бұрын
Searching for a Perfect Body? But... they already possess a perfect body...
@cherrabenoussama3509
4 жыл бұрын
Immunity to the sun
@BaronessAishi055
3 жыл бұрын
But they wanted a body immune to the sun's rays.
@navyntune8158
3 жыл бұрын
Physically.
@jaeyoonkim4663
4 жыл бұрын
Joseph: "sees Pillar Women" NIIIICE!
@PuchuKt
5 жыл бұрын
Pillar women look just what i thought the female counterpart of a race of aztec bodybuilder gods would look like E X T R A T H I C C
@toraiseijuro
4 жыл бұрын
Should we ignore the fact that *Esidisi* stood with Kars even when the whole Race was against him. And only I Speedwagon got Appreciation as a Friend!!!
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
This! Esidisi best boi.
@Massive_Legend_Here
2 жыл бұрын
Its more like "aight, either i dont help you and get killed OR I help you reach your goal and become more powerfull myself."
@TheAscensionChanel
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Kars give a mask to acdc and later: "Man, this blood powers its great!!! I will help you to get more power if i can be a god like you say"
@mooganify
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAscensionChanel we dont really know tbh
@drinky_3021
4 жыл бұрын
God. I could imagine Ultimate Kars easily destroying DIO (Stardust crusaders). That would be satisfying seeing villians duel each other.
@zh7334
4 жыл бұрын
He would easily kill Dio. All Dio could do is stop time to get away. Even then Kars would quickly catch up.
@drinky_3021
4 жыл бұрын
Even if he did leave, Kars could detect him with his super natural healing.
@felipecosta-kv2fx
2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure actually, do pillar people have natural defenses against stands?
@LUUUUU8
2 жыл бұрын
@@felipecosta-kv2fx it's actually confirmed that the Pillarmen like Kars, Esidisi, and Wammu are able to sense stands
@felipecosta-kv2fx
2 жыл бұрын
@@LUUUUU8 where?
@mediocreindigo
7 жыл бұрын
The comments in a nutshell: 50% Pillar women are hot. 30% Kars is a dick. 20% Other.
@alecfongy3175
7 жыл бұрын
Well its true ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Pillar women are hot
@Red-32
11 ай бұрын
.....
@diabolicamires
Жыл бұрын
2:02 If you look closely you see Esidisi is protectin Kars' back
@rico4376
3 жыл бұрын
2:02 I like how Eisidisi just appears out of nowhere
@mac189
8 ай бұрын
i think its because of the speech he made convinced him to join kars
@pachutoazumadre32xD
2 жыл бұрын
1:39 "Pillar woman Enya doesn't exist she can't hurt you" Pillar woman Enya:
@FRALICESAW15
5 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, EsiDsi and Kars were basically Wammu’s gay parents
@_Sep_13th
3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: There's still 1 living Pillar Man on Earth and his name is Santana.
@xandersosing
3 жыл бұрын
The mvp
@mervan1982
2 жыл бұрын
Kars is living to but he is in space
@yunglean4759
2 жыл бұрын
@robloxvision112, not really kars transcended past his pillar race so you can't really count kars. He's no longer a pillar man because he became the ultimate life form
@supermaximglitchy1
Ай бұрын
No I think Joseph killed him using the reflection of the sun into a well
@tangetstone2.045
Ай бұрын
@@supermaximglitchy1 He's still trapped and imprisoned in the Speedwagon Foundation HQ while being constantly doused with UV rays.
@sensennisya557
4 жыл бұрын
Itachi kills every Uchiha is a JoJo reference.
@altairevangelist5999
3 жыл бұрын
It's funny because Kars has same VA as Kakashi
@user-pi1lb4tf2f
2 жыл бұрын
@@altairevangelist5999 It's gintoki vs Oboro all over again
@ExplorifyQuests
2 жыл бұрын
and only four Uchihas were left same in Jojo.
@aegon4047
4 жыл бұрын
If you think about it Kars has the ability of light Esidisi flames Wammu wind Santana well not so much And remember in one scene where kars fought stroheim And stroheim says "This new body is based on the pillar men in mexico!" Then kars casually replies with "Santana was just a Guard dog.. He was nothing compared to us" So it was clear kars played favorites And since wammu could do all sorts of crap with his wind That was enough for kars to just think of santana as a dog Damn thats deep
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
In the manga there's a scene where Kars is telling his companions that they just have to forget about Santana, and they didn't really question it. Wish we knew more about the backstory.
@danielmoagro7094
Жыл бұрын
Santana has the ability to absorb the bodies
@danielmoagro7094
Жыл бұрын
@@ANPC-pi9vu I hope in a backstory of the pillarmen :(
@ANPC-pi9vu
Жыл бұрын
@@danielmoagro7094 Sadly we didn't get much and probably never will.
@sendylie1774
8 жыл бұрын
Near invulnerability, and this explains Pillar Men's futile reproduction.
@enggigg6644
8 жыл бұрын
Then Kars killed all the females and fucked everything up lol
@enggigg6644
8 жыл бұрын
Last of their kind is Santana though i doubt he would ever get out of that UV prison.
@sendylie1774
8 жыл бұрын
Enggi GG and kars since he's immortal and unable to come back to earth wandering through space forever
@enggigg6644
8 жыл бұрын
Sendy Lie True
@TheWarmachine375
6 жыл бұрын
Too bad the Pillar Men did not think things through about the worse case scenario if their attempt to kill Kars went south and could have sent some of their people away into hiding, and ensure their race's survival and finish what they started.
@Ice-yp4wg
4 жыл бұрын
1:33 Jojo already beat Star Wars to this meme.
@dungeonmaster9123
4 жыл бұрын
Ice 487 Kars killed not just a pillar men, but the pillar women and pillar children too!
@deadaccount5238
4 жыл бұрын
@@dungeonmaster9123 I HATE THEM!
@robinroy7123
4 жыл бұрын
So u saying Vader is a JoJo reference!? No wonder he became so popular 😂.
@multigg1928
4 жыл бұрын
Didn't Revenge of The Sith come out in 2005
@Ice-yp4wg
4 жыл бұрын
@@multigg1928 Even if it did, the manga of part 2 was finished in 1989.
@iliacdeleon1065
4 жыл бұрын
*If a Pillar Woman was with Kars and the other two Pillar man* Joseph: NIIIICE!!!!
@Zeew707
6 жыл бұрын
I think the original Pillar Men are only as powerful as vampires like Dio, and have the same abilities/strength as vampires. The shriveled corpses at 0:56 reminds me of vampire victims whose blood have been sucked dry. I think that's what 'absorb' in this context really means. They also use weapons like spears and blades, so they definitely didn't have extending ribcages, horns that are capable of moving, or arm blades like the four Pillar Men. Some people think that original Pillar Men absorb other creatures into their body like Santana did, but personally, I think they just 'absorb' it through suction using their claws or fangs (like vampires). Santana has been exposed to the mask, which is implied by his ability to absorb creatures directly and contort his body at will, and also that one carving that shows the four Pillar Men with their elements implies that Santana's element is water. As far as I know, Pillar Men only get elemental powers after they used the mask. That's why I think that the original Pillar Men are much weaker than Santana and more similar in strength to vampires. What I'm curious about is the significance of the number of their horns. Is it just a genetic thing that varies from family to family, or does it control their powers/abilities? Most of the people in the flashback has either one, two, or three horns. I don't see any of them having more than three in the flashback (or maybe I'm just not that observant), yet Esidisi has five horns. I wonder if it indicates hierarchy or something like that?
@Masutora
4 жыл бұрын
So based on the fact that the pillar men used weapons when attacking Kars and Esidisi, is it possible to say that one's "mode" is a result of wearing the mask and not a natural evolution?
@ahmadbilalmaster5292
4 жыл бұрын
I think Kars, Esidisi and Whammu are stronger than the average pillar man because of the mask
@beren1898
3 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@Drip_Wooper
2 ай бұрын
The narrator mentions that their abilities were prolonged lifespans and invulnerability, nothing related to the Pillarman's ability to control life and bodies (their own or other's), so yes I think both their power to invade and manipulate bodies, as well as regeneration and elemental modes were from the mask. Vampires also seem to get similar abilities, so I guess "Pillarman" is just the vampiric upgrade of this unnamed race, it's quite possible that they can use the Freezing Blood and Space Ripper Eyes techniques if they desired, but never did due to simply having better options
@kldn-xtlxmr7675
6 ай бұрын
So youre telling me that, the pillar race were pretty peaceful amongst life, and it was only kars who was batshit insane?
@notshockwavedemon7543
3 ай бұрын
Yeah They lived already content with their lives. Only consuming what they need to. And they kept their population low since they lived incredibly long lives so their natural death rate was also almost nonexistent. Kars was the one who wasn't and wanted to evolve further. Esidisi followed in his Ideology
@scoopitywoop5665
4 жыл бұрын
The pillar men race would honestly make for a really cool SCP if you think about it
@junkyporpoise4254
2 жыл бұрын
Damn Eisidisi be loyal as fuck.
@rico4376
3 жыл бұрын
Ngl I want a side series of the story of how Kars became the way he is and how he created the stone mask
@hkkobayashi7657
7 жыл бұрын
So basically super models. A tride of super models. And those piller womeeeeeeen yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!
@AbsoluteMongoloid
5 жыл бұрын
Your profile pic makes your comment all the better.
@Felix-ic1fc
5 жыл бұрын
0:17 that pillar woman is the only character that in jojo don't have defined lips it looks like a normal anime face.
@wilhelmu
5 жыл бұрын
2:00 holy shit i just noticed esidisi is standing behind kars
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
Esidisi best boi
@naranara1690
7 жыл бұрын
*The Story of Kars (with a little Esidisi, Wamuu and Santana thrown in at the end)
@antonioexpositocruz5160
5 жыл бұрын
Esididi was already an adult here
@sensennisya557
4 жыл бұрын
While Kars is laughing like a Maniac, i think he's sad because his best friend is killed by Joseph. That's why he want to kill Joseph first before Conquer the world.
@nameless01XGK
4 жыл бұрын
"The prodigy killed MOST of his race, including his own parents." So it's mean there're the Pillar Men who's still alive?
@aldoborgia7836
4 жыл бұрын
He spared AC/DC (Esidisi), Wammu and Santana (the 2 babies)
@tentilol
3 жыл бұрын
@@aldoborgia7836 who knows maybe some pillar men or women escaped
@b-fenix5789
3 жыл бұрын
@@aldoborgia7836 In fact AC / DC was his partner, he helped Kars create the Stone Mask and kill his race
@CSSoda
2 жыл бұрын
This background ost is so beautiful !!
@mihayseby98
Жыл бұрын
What is the name?
@user-sl7ie9te5r
Жыл бұрын
@@mihayseby98 Fields of Fright
@windowcoolboy445
4 жыл бұрын
"Don't you wish to conquer the sun? Don't you wish to rule over all? Don't you wish to purge your fears? If not, then perish." - Kars
@mac189
8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that speech got Esidisi on his side
@themightynanto3158
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Wamuu found out the truth of how Kars slaughtered his entire race. Would he still be loyal to Kars? Or would he have betrayed Kars and joined forces with Joseph?
@bujinturtle2921
Жыл бұрын
I feel like Wamuu's seen as a litttttle bit more objectively good by human moral standards than he actually is by fans just because his personal passions are in satisfying and honorable battle. He cares a lot about competing in contests of strength with anyone worthy, but killing and the concept of enemies/humanity isn't super relevant to him outside what they can offer him as a warrior, so we get scenes such as Wamuu eating mark/the soldiers/laughing at weaklings/considering keeping a stock of vampires as normal. His perspective is quite different from a human's. He's certainly still got those admirable traits and struggles with killing a child of the hamon tribe, but considering he's already seen Kars do that for him and retains complete loyalty for the men who raised him, I don't think betrayal would be very on the table outside what we already saw in killing the vampires prior to his death. Wamuu knows firsthand how ruthless and pragmatic Kars is and we've seen him react by backing down when his request for a match against joseph was denied until LisaLisa made her bluff. I don't think he's under any illusion that Kars thinks the same as him about honor because of that, since Kars also pretty openly discusses their disagreements several times. If anything they'd just talk it out once again, they've been together for 10,000 years at this point. That and the truth about the incident is pretty much that their people tried to kill Kars over concern for something Kars had by now made a non issue in hindsight so his 2 master's actions would probably seem pretty logically in line with what he already knows about them at that point considering the 4 and later 3 of them also went around wiping out threats to themselves before hibernation. All this makes the dynamics between the 3 more interesting though I think.
@altersaber1460
Ай бұрын
The race who started Jojo poses.😂😂😂
@BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712
5 жыл бұрын
Now I think Kars is some thousand years mad “ scientist “
@janetgarrenson5526
2 жыл бұрын
I could just imagine how they lived. Posing all time giving each other posing tips and what not.
@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002
3 жыл бұрын
Would've been cool to see a spin-off about the Pillar Men.
@stevensteviepryde5888
5 жыл бұрын
Kars is the most dangerous threat of all of JoJo.
@fragsnake
4 жыл бұрын
Kars and Diavolo formed the two halves of powers DIO acquired from the relevant artifacts he got from them indirectly. The Stone Mask gave his immortality, vampiric powers and the Arrow gave him The World.
@Otval_bashky
3 жыл бұрын
Pucci: Bruh.
@stevensteviepryde5888
3 жыл бұрын
@@Otval_bashky it's been established that Kars can and did survive the universal reset.
@Otval_bashky
3 жыл бұрын
@@stevensteviepryde5888 Pucci faster than Kars.
@altairevangelist5999
3 жыл бұрын
Kira Yoshikage can erase Kars's Exist
@abbyling9511
2 жыл бұрын
Only me thinking that the "pillar grandma" is Kars' mother or grandmother? Their hair and horns are similar.
@bitacash
Жыл бұрын
horns are just a privilege and a designation of status.
@jogurtjoestar
2 жыл бұрын
bro I feel like these guys were the BEST villains in jjba, They have a mysterious story, THEYRE AZTEC/MAYAN GODSSS (I have ALWAYS wanted to see mayan/aztec mythology in tv and anime but this is FAR beyone my expectations) and they have a EPIC THEME
@Zpicynuudle
2 жыл бұрын
much better than Dio
@kucingsedihjojofan1428
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zpicynuudle Agreed, but idk why Dio got focused on more
@JustADioWhosAHeroForFun
5 жыл бұрын
Mama Kars and Daddy ACDC
@jolyne1541
3 жыл бұрын
I think Kars is the daddy and esidisi is the mommy :))
@rKhael53
7 жыл бұрын
I think, in the JoJo universe, Kars could be Loki. A smart genius, powerful but kind of a coward and cheater, who enter in opposition with other "gods" (pillar men), and finally causing an apocalypse and a mass destruction of "gods" (Ragnarok). The vikings could knew his deformed story, and deform it again to give birth to their trickster god.
@TovKafur
4 жыл бұрын
It's called Trickster, and creatures like this can be found in various cultures. Overall Trickster ruins status-quo, using his intellegence and wisdom, or pure luck. Joseph also fits Trickster archetype.
@psychogamer7213
6 ай бұрын
That one white haired pillar woman was just there for a few seconds of short screen time and the fandom still managed to awaken their own pillars with so much fanart non the less.
@KunglawAdy
4 жыл бұрын
i misss the old concept of jojo. pilar man , hamon, mask... good old days
@jolyne1541
3 жыл бұрын
Me too😭
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
Same. I can not sit through Stardust Crusaders. Fucking Pillar Man fanfiction is less formulaic than that drivel, so I guess I'm just stuck in this pit of Pillar Porn.
@Kurayamiblack
5 жыл бұрын
1:38 for a second there I was like "Hey look, it's slightly younder Enyaba"
@magnoliaeclair7822
7 жыл бұрын
simply put they are the race who masterd the art of pose
@tofucube7703
5 жыл бұрын
So Kars and his bro adopted santana and Wham and raised them without any pillar ladies.
@tl4460
5 жыл бұрын
His "bro"
@iiikaruz
5 жыл бұрын
@@tl4460 Yes, his " bro " in which he had only a "brotherly" relationship with.
@MsMvsc
5 жыл бұрын
cherry - cola Suure...
@Dreigonix
7 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit disappointed that the Pillar Women aren't just as buff as the men, honestly. XD
@DohTheEntertainer83
6 жыл бұрын
Look at the one at 0:16 to the lower-left, in the background. *BOOM*
@TheWarmachine375
6 жыл бұрын
Abs lol
@titan133760
6 жыл бұрын
@@DohTheEntertainer83 That's a pillar man, not a pillar woman
@fulcrum2951
5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean they're not buff?! They're just buff at...certain places
@Subscribersnodignity
5 жыл бұрын
Dreigonix why would they want to be? They have no reason too
@ziphy_6471
2 жыл бұрын
kars: I REJECT MY PILLARMANITY!
@RoyyCroninn
3 жыл бұрын
I stole this meme When u realized Kars and Esidisi is a better parent than Jotaro
@matthewwright9143
4 жыл бұрын
An ancient superhuman race of strippers posing on a daily basis is something only Araki could come up with.
@Jo-Wilbe-Dina
3 жыл бұрын
The Pillar Men: *adopts sanviento and wamuu* DIO in Eyes of Heaven: *encourages giorno to do his best* Kira: *a good husband, doesn’t kill hayato* Diavolo: *tries to kill his own daughter* No wonder he received infinite death loop.
@Aquele_Neon
2 жыл бұрын
kira killed hayato, but btd bring him back
@Jo-Wilbe-Dina
3 жыл бұрын
1:02 I finally know where DIO got the pose from the End Of The World Opening...
@donutlts5895
4 жыл бұрын
Kars: *gets cornered* Also Kars: DONT YOU WANNA LIVE FOREVAAAAAAAAA?!?!?!
@tba3625
4 жыл бұрын
not just the men but the women and children too
@zalabit927
7 жыл бұрын
Damn, I feel bad for those hot Pillar Ladies...
@TheWarmachine375
6 жыл бұрын
Kars killed them all.
@salado1944
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 Dont worry, kars is now flying in the space "thanks to joseph"
@Skoopish
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think people realize how powerful the pillar men were. Easily more powerful than a lot of stand users
@ashwinravi4621
Жыл бұрын
Kars is the 2nd strongest jojo character
@hindubanodhruvnahi779
Ай бұрын
@@ashwinravi4621 nah he is first He can just copy everything in earth (like he copied Joseph hamon) and made it 100 times stronger If you are talking about dio oh then it's not canon
@gideonjones5712
5 жыл бұрын
A brilliant mind, trying to overcome the crippling weakness of his people to the light of the sun. So he worked and worked and worked, for centuries, perhaps millenia, on this great project to better his people. And as soon as he made the first great step to that goal, his people turned on him in fear. Nothing could be permitted to stand in the way of his goal. Not his own people, not the users of Hamon, not his own followers. Fighting fair didn't work out for them? Then he would be a sneaky bastard. Anything to win. And it worked. His sacrifices were worth it. Until a cocky American teenager used a volcano to launch him into orbit. It was after 700 years of trying to comprehend the physics of that specific event that Kars would finally understand it was no longer worth thinking.
@user-wp5no6cn2b
Ай бұрын
I'm ready for Kars' Bizarre Adventure with his pillar crusader buddies.
@YamaMaharaja
3 жыл бұрын
Kars: the true reason why everything happened in JoJo's
@oqo3310
4 жыл бұрын
Kars : *does neurologic stuff* The whole pillar race : "He is to dangerous to be left alive !" Excuse me what the fuck
@thewatcher751
4 жыл бұрын
did you forget that his plan would eventually consume all life on earth
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
@@thewatcher751 that was what the pillar people believed, it doesn't make it true. Ultimate Lifeform wouldn't even need to consume other living things. They were retarded and afraid of change.
@TheZephyrsWind
Жыл бұрын
The squirrel thing was so crazy but had me laughing uncontrollably.
@plebweeb8868
7 жыл бұрын
1:39 is that... Kars' mom?
@plebweeb8868
7 жыл бұрын
not exactly the milf/gilf type tbh
@plebweeb8868
7 жыл бұрын
also where did Esidisi come from at 2:02?? Did he just crawl out of the cave, back from his Highway to Hell and strike a pose? wtf
@atrep4585
5 жыл бұрын
I mean the hair and horns match. She could be
@NepetasShippingWall1642
4 жыл бұрын
pleb weeb guess not every mom is a milf in the jojo universe
@liap7815
4 жыл бұрын
She is so cool! I’d definitely be gay for her
@Bigtotoman
3 жыл бұрын
If all the deaths from AC/DC,wamuu, and kars Kars’s death hit me the hardest I don’t know why but it felt sad watching him float in space
@ANPC-pi9vu
3 жыл бұрын
Esidisi and Whamu both had some satisfaction in their deaths... Whamu dying in a great battle was his dream and more important to him than surviving to serve Kars, and Esidisi loved Kars so much that he repeatedly squandered chances to escape after loosing because he wanted to stop the hamon users from intercepting the package. Kars on the other hand died a living death at the hands of the teenage human who took everything he cared about from him. It's honestly too cruel a fate. And Joseph even added insult to injury, pretending he had planned that plot armor bullshit just to drive Kars mad. Santa's fate is similarly sad, we just didn't get to know him as well. Ngl, Joseph was the real villain IMO.
@abcdef-mz7gf
2 жыл бұрын
I like how everyone is talking about pillar women being canon.
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