Hate to break it to you (others already did), but there is literally nothing he did that indicates foul play
@theweedkage1689
5 ай бұрын
He has back buttons how is that not cheating its basically auto throw you can just change your button layout for your throw button to be switch to your back buttons which are also auto tool.
@freddzai1512
5 ай бұрын
@@theweedkage1689 copium brah
@luvsik7
5 ай бұрын
@@theweedkage1689 yeah idk what the fuck back buttons have to do with anything, how is changing your binds giving “auto throws”?
@BlackSpiral_1
5 ай бұрын
@@theweedkage1689that’s like saying using L1 and L2 for DI and D parry is cheating bc it’s mapped to a single button
@damizan8331
5 ай бұрын
As a manon player, if you aren't dedicated to practice - trust me, those ranked matches will be your "practice". There's tons of character that can rush/counter Manon bullshittery that you only win by making less mistake, or taking on a player that's worst than them. You can see multiple mistakes (Empty Command Grab) because of his missinput. The "grab at the same time" happen only if Manon was on hit stun. Your grab will whiff since your opponent is in the hit stun so Manon's grab take priority. If he's cheating, trust me - he's not staying Diamond after those 200+ hours on ranked.
@theweedkage1689
4 ай бұрын
Ranked is not practice my guy at all if anything ranked just makes you a small fraction better Ive beat masters and trust they didn't do what this manon did or even diamond ranks have more practice than ranked match.
@theweedkage1689
4 ай бұрын
A solid player has at least 100hrs of practice even back with PS2 fighting games you spent most of your time practicing in the practice room.
@damizan8331
4 ай бұрын
@@theweedkage1689 Back in PS2, of course you'd spend more in practice (no rank match, limited online). "Ranked is not practice". Yeah I know. Manon is my main since I bought the game and I haven't play other character yet, but mostly I learn from getting wrecked by setups/options from my rank matches. Of course it wasn't fun looking at my LP going up and down, but it's just the way it is. Get wrecked, learn some more. Look for how to counter it online or just go to practice mode. I have my fare share of "complaining to the monitor" too, but never ragequit. I'm not that solid of a player myself, but have you used Manon? Her combo route aren't that much so it's actually pretty easy to learn her basics - To be a REALLY good Manon is a different beast though. They said her buttons were "good", but most of it are very situational with limited combo/route options. Most Manon main hope that she will be buff a bit so that her buttons are more functional. If it helped, my region is Asia - so yeah... Even the Plat players aren't that easy to fight with.
@theweedkage1689
4 ай бұрын
@@damizan8331 I've played manon enough to know you can't grapple and throw at the same time especially on PlayStation your frames are slower now with AI botting on ps4 you can
@damizan8331
4 ай бұрын
@@theweedkage1689 Which impossible part of grapple+throw at the same time are you talking about? 2:28 You jumped on Manon and it hit. HIT STUN. You can't throw you opponent if they're in hit stun, it'll whiff. A few frames after that Manon put out her throw and it connect. You're not "grabbing at the same time".
@bitdgamer3891
5 ай бұрын
Not cheating at all, the player is playing normally, a cheater usually is impeccable and they run a script, it's like watching an AI show and they do moves without fail 95-100% of the time. No one does that. The stats can be confusing though.
@theweedkage1689
5 ай бұрын
Yes bro this is that
@bitdgamer3891
5 ай бұрын
@@theweedkage1689 the player seems too timid and not having irregular high probability counter of every move. I've dealt with serious cheaters, this is a small time example if possible.
@angelous4x
5 ай бұрын
distance and frame data, if you really curious if he is cheating look at the replay with frame data on. i noticed he walks back when you grab so you wiff. and you also try to grab when you are too plus. talking trash when ur losing makes you look hella salty. plus cheats are only on PC as of this video, the dude isn't cheating and it might not even be his main character.
@kuro-koma
5 ай бұрын
213 hours only and you calling him a cheater? I have 241 hours and have Ryu, Chun, Lily and Zangief to Master, and Jamie to D5. This's my first SF game. You need to sit down with someone and understand how this game works and how to play fighting games because there's nothing that i can see that's blatantly suspicious from that Manon.
@theweedkage1689
4 ай бұрын
He only had 24hrs of practice how is that good, watch the video closely
@damizan8331
4 ай бұрын
@@theweedkage1689 200+ hours learning a character isn't "practice"?
@theweedkage1689
4 ай бұрын
@@damizan8331 ranked match isn't practice really if you don't even understand frame data really watch the video my boi
@Fromchaostheory
2 ай бұрын
@@theweedkage1689 I practice new characters in ranked all the time.
@BlackWeeeb
5 ай бұрын
if he was cheating he wouldnt be diamond 2. just get better
@BlackSpiral_1
5 ай бұрын
Respectfully, you’re just bad
@BlackWeeeb
5 ай бұрын
agreed
@Jardonius
5 ай бұрын
Not so sure is cheater, just annoyingly calling out some shit. The whiffed grab om that jump in was from the plus frames your hit got. Made the grab whiff and they punished it. For future reference give us the replay with inputs and we can check pretty easily if theyre cheating. Also dont forget, some folks come over from console to PC or vice versa. Had a guy unranked absolutely styling on me and i took him to custom room he was like "yeah finally got a new pc" and was excited to rank up again. Didnt look very fishy to me, but cheats are also getting more sophisticated these days Dope ass name though lmao, thats the Kage I'm voting for
@JoaoDuarte308
5 ай бұрын
He's not a cheater bro... U are just a crybaby
@mikee9167
5 ай бұрын
be more respectful of people who beat you, that's who you want to share ideas with
@beans8459
5 ай бұрын
Sorry you had to figure out that you’re bad like this 😭
@Fadesign100
5 ай бұрын
This is nothing .... Today we had a Guile with 7 hours in the game show up in BH. Master with 20,000 games played lol Right... guy played like a gold level player to. The cheating in this game is non stop.
@DiscardPile1
5 ай бұрын
So why is there copium on my feed. Edit: Read the reply for more goodness. Also, its mad ironic that the guy playing on Modern Mode is complaining about Manon having an easier time because he has back buttons to bind stuff too. I have nothing against Modern players but he complaining like Manon is doing DBFz auto combos.
@DiscardPile1
5 ай бұрын
Aight, so I'm skimming through the video and gonna point out where I see mistakes At 2:34: Where you both "grabbed at the same time", you tried to grab him in the middle of when he was in hitstun and as a result, you whiffed the grab. While you were in the middle of recovering from your missed grab, he grabs you back before you can tech it. Next time, learn the timing of when they exit the hitstun and then you'll be landing throws after hits a lot easier. TLDR: you didn't grab at the same time. You accidentally and subconsciously tried to combo into a grab which is not possible. The solution is to space out your strikes and throws. Unironically the rest of the video: There was literally nothing wrong with the rest of the video. The Manon was doing basic Manon things man, its just you playing poorly gang. "How are you able able to hit me?" "She's playing with a reader?" Gang, shes a fucking grappler she read the fuck out of you its not her fault 29 hours of practice was all she needed to dog you bro.
@theweedkage1689
4 ай бұрын
So you can grapple and throw at the same time cause I only know of AI doing that you said yourself we grabbed at the same time but his manon did a grapple instead of a throw and immediately changed to a throw I already had input throw at the same time as his grapple. As I said you cant grapple and throw at the same time with manon you would have to wait a few frames to do it.
@Bard2DaBone
6 күн бұрын
oh brother, you’re just bad
@theweedkage1689
5 күн бұрын
@@Bard2DaBone you know this was when there was bugs in the game like crazy I think your just ignorant
@Bard2DaBone
5 күн бұрын
@@theweedkage1689 absolutely hilarious how you will just pull anything out of thin air
@theweedkage1689
5 күн бұрын
@@Bard2DaBone I don't just pull anything outta thin air your IQ must be real low for you to defend their not being any cheats at all in the game. I find it funny there's millions of KZitem videos showing cheats of people cheating and it's quite often yet people still act like it's new. Bud get a life and quit eating Cheetos at home and trolling.
@EvgeniyFurman
5 ай бұрын
Yeah. Probably cheater. Ed grabs first. Few frames later Manon makes grab move, but Manon does throw instead for some reason. I know that A.I. can do that kind of cheats. A.I. may jump and attack through Chun Li energy ball (Kikosho super) sometimes. Or it can grab my character when character has already fully extend his leg while kicking. But I have never been able to replicate that. So players can't do that. I guess
@angelous4x
5 ай бұрын
what the hell is ungrapple?
@theweedkage1689
5 ай бұрын
Throw or a tech throw
@theweedkage1689
5 ай бұрын
He had extra mods on his controller for auto throw meaning he can tech any throw
@theweedkage1689
5 ай бұрын
You can buy them online for 60$
@angelous4x
5 ай бұрын
You mean like mapping the throw buttons to a back pedal of a like Xbox elite controller?
@angelous4x
5 ай бұрын
By the way. Great name
@EvgeniyFurman
5 ай бұрын
2:29. I don't know how grab could wiff, if Manon didn't move back at all. And they grab almost at the same time. But Manon is slower. Manon literally has cancel recovery and starts grab immediately. New kind of cancel?
@Ramxenoc
5 ай бұрын
You can't grab someone after landing a hit with them in hitstun. If the hit was blocked then grab lands unless they tech
@theweedkage1689
5 ай бұрын
I said the same thing
@theweedkage1689
5 ай бұрын
I was like how do we throw at the same time and it still gives manon the throw
@Ramxenoc
5 ай бұрын
@@theweedkage1689 you threw first but since she got hit instead of blocking it your throw whiffed and she threw in response to your throw.
@theweedkage1689
5 ай бұрын
@@Ramxenoc hmmm it looks like its at the same time tho and not whiffed
@theweedkage1689
5 ай бұрын
Cheats/hacks and modded controllers ( even pro controllers and back button attachments ) should not be allowed for online play Should only be allowed to use the controller that came with the console. Even playing field then.
@BlackSpiral_1
5 ай бұрын
Bro your modern you have single button DI and parry your literally doing the same thing😂😂
@tajhill989
5 ай бұрын
@@BlackSpiral_1 on top of one button supers. This is the hardest cope I have ever seen. Bro needs to just take the l and move on.
@theweedkage1689
4 ай бұрын
The player played with AI remember street fighter is on ps4 as well you can hack on PS4 still and cheat even easier on it, and this player had ps4. So no bro this wasn't a normal L I usually just take it and move on. This player legitimately cheated you can see us grab at the same time but manon does a grapple instead of a throw and then immediately changes to a throw mid grapple yeah I believe that's cheats.
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