To answer questions regarding why this was done the way that it was. Why no LVL or steel?- If I straighten this run completely, it won't be coplaner with the rest of the ceiling that has also settled for 70 years. We're aiming to finish this ceiling with T&G recessed up to help make the ceiling height appear higher as well as add some detail. Single joists for as many runs as possible was the goal and I will be carrying the T&G down and mitering it around this triple as well as the joists next to it to box all of them in together. It's a cottage with 6'-3" ceilings and a larger joist or post in the dead center of a living room wasn't an option. Why not southern yellow pine?- Southern yellow pine in my area is pressure treated, we're not allowed to use pressure treated indoors for a ridiculous reason which is that in case of a fire they don't want firemen inhaling it(I know, ridiculous). Also, the spans for SYP to SPF are within 6" of each other, neither of which are anywhere near what's necessary for this span. Why not through bolt it?- 4 1/2" lag screws that were designed to replace lag bolts are more than adequate. This triple as well as the entire run of undersized joists are assisted by a wall that runs up to oversized roof rafters with extra blocking and hangers. I worked with an engineer for a field solution that kept everything coplaner as well as not having any posts in the middle of a living room. This survived as a double for over 70 years and it will survive for a lot longer with the solutions provided. Thank you for the overwhelming majority of positive comments and to any negative ones all I can say is to just take off your black and white goggles and understand that there's some gray in the world of construction and remodeling.
@bwj999
2 жыл бұрын
You should not interpret comments adding additional suggestions or ideas as "negative" - obviously you improved your ceiling and offered helpful ideas - but you need to realized that others need to see the glass half empty side of this - especially as half those watching your video are going to be looking at removing a supporting 2x4 wall as step #1. They need to proceed with a full picture. As for my comments I should have mentioned that it is a helpful video and a good starting off point - just overlooked that point. Good point about trreated wood - one option is to get 2x8 in pine and rip it back to needed dimention.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
@@bwj999 I wasn't referring to the comments recommending proper solutions such as steel, LVLs, yellow pine, or through bolts as negative. I meant the very few where I was called lazy or told I shouldn't be near structural work. There was only a couple. I certainly invite constructive feedback. The real point of this video is that regardless of the span or beam size, this is the procedure. If I was to be sistering multiple at once, I would show them all being jacked up in unison by a single header, rather than individually as some people may mistakenly do. I really enjoy structural work and I do run into it fairly often. Hopefully I can run into it soon where headroom isn't restricted and I can use properly sized beams to really make a big difference. Thanks for your feedback sir.
@deusvult6920
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter there's always people that think there's only 1 way to solve a problem (and that they know it). They'll never get far in life though because they can't think outside the box. They'll be helpers for their entire life they're never going to run a crew. Tradesmen understand there's multiple ways to do things and they understand when to do different things. Ignore the haters. They'll always be there.....at dirt cheap wages
@hordori
2 жыл бұрын
As we said during the gut reno of my house..."it's a G-O-K job; God Only Knows. Good luck with things. Those of us that have done jobs like this understand that it won't ever be perfect. Sometimes you just have to understand it's a really old house and from time to time you have accept the build otherwise you'll go crazy and end up spending more time and money than it's worth. Again, good luck.
@barryallen5507
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the indepth comment, so I'll subscribe
@christopherforadada3835
2 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see actual construction shit that makes sense lol. I’m tired of tools being used for the wrong purpose or people doing shit completely wrong. Great job great explanation
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, I appreciate that.
@Brian-yz8dj
2 жыл бұрын
The worst are the tool tip videos that post nonsense videos of them making nothing out of scrap.
@Zadesniper
2 жыл бұрын
@@Brian-yz8dj The silver lining out of those is the guy who makes fun of them
@MrWhateverfits
Жыл бұрын
If the job got done does it really matter how it was done? If it was done right. It's like if a bad idea works was it really bad?
@tslater1989
Жыл бұрын
Right. Like, obviously this isn't "ideal" but it makes the most sense. It's not overly intrusive. It will do a great job of helping hold that load. For those that think lag screws are inferior. I have bad news. Thy are often much better because they are smaller in diameter and cause less splitting. All the while, having a higher shear strength. Good work, sometimes engineering is a matter of compromise.
@James-wd2uu
2 жыл бұрын
That little cut could have helped me so many times, damn
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
You have to learn the hard way lol
@noelsteventopia726
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter ⁰000
@2009dudeman
2 жыл бұрын
No kidding, in gonna remember that one. I have a couple joists that are sagging and one that's split down the middle starting at a knot. This is going to save me so much headache.
@James-wd2uu
2 жыл бұрын
@@2009dudeman yeah here I am putting 12 footers through windows and ripping up an extra 5 foot of floor when I could have literally taken 20 degrees off my angle without sacrificing and structural integrity.
@jasonbeisiegel5550
Жыл бұрын
...that cut should not exceed 1/4 of the joist depth.
@VYZUNZ
2 жыл бұрын
1st vid I've watch of urs. Awesome job on explaining the nuances of getting the job done. Essentially what a guy should be thinking. Subscribed!
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shaun, I appreciate that.
@jamesrussell6870
2 жыл бұрын
Remove old joists, flip them upside down, enjoy the perfect flat floor in about a year as they move towards sag again in 2 years... Undersized joists are the gift that keeps giving..
@thanos9846
2 жыл бұрын
Mark Wahlberg narration... Nice work, especially that end notch. Not his first rodeo.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir.
@sympathy4thedevil88
Жыл бұрын
Say hello to your mother for me
@d_ward4871
Жыл бұрын
@@sympathy4thedevil88 you beat me to it 😂
@sympathy4thedevil88
Жыл бұрын
@@d_ward4871 😜
@nemonameless6082
2 жыл бұрын
Had to do this a few times working in old century+ homes, always a good time. Had one that was almost six inches out over 10 ft😂
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. Remodeled a house last year that was built in 1860. Someone hacked in a bathroom on the 2nd floor. The plumber drilled 3 1/2" waste pipe holes through 2x6s underneath a cast iron tub and under a supporting wall for the dormer they cut in to make the bathroom. It was sagging over 3". I had my plumber reroute the waste pipe so it ran down one bay to the basement with no holes through the joists. I sistered all the 2x6s with 2x8s and used two 20 ton jacks over the course of a few days with some fun creaks and pops. I finally dropped everything back onto the 2x8s and was only left with ~1/2" of sag. Very satisfying.
@johnsandlinjr
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you added that at the end. I was going to say this should easily be steel or atleast and LVL
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you watching until the end. I should probably mention things like that at the beginning of these types of videos.
@bwj999
2 жыл бұрын
True I did one once with 1/4" steel plate bolted through every foot. Very strong and took all the sag out of the ceiling.
@MrStuffdude
2 жыл бұрын
@@bwj999 do you have a video on steel plate and bolt reinforcement? Thanks for sharing!
@Tuks7210
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter no sir....you saved the best for last💯🤙🏾👍🏽
@bwj999
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrStuffdude I do not. A metal worker (place that sells ibeams etc) just made a 17' 1/4x7 1/4" with predrilled holes staggered and we cut a groove and raised it into place while jacking the floor to straight (probably 150lb it took 3 guys) and thru bolted it with half inch bolts. Bolting it to wood actually worked great as the wood kept the metal vertical and from twisting under load (thus no 'i' beam necessary) and the metal obviously provides tremendouse support to the undersized wood girder.
@nathan584
2 жыл бұрын
"cut any nails in the way" SCHHSCHCHSCHCHSCSHSHSHSH!!😂
@Kildahl1776
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit I panicked and dropped my phone because my wife Is sleeping 😂
@nsmith0723
2 жыл бұрын
There was this guy named Igor that was pretty much a literal giant. We basically did that to every joist so it would feel so springy to him. We also got him a lot of custom amish made furniture. Me and my two cousins could sit comfortably in his chair side by side. He use a 6 person dining table as a desk. He was the nicest guy in the world Edit Igor not Egor
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
That's an awesome memory brother. Thanks for sharing.
@rebel8689
2 жыл бұрын
I’m concerned you might need a support post in the center too. It looks like a 12’ to 16’ gab from wall to wall.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
It's 16' and I explained in other comments that this floor is also supported by a wall upstairs that's hung from oversized roof rafters. It's a cottage built in the 50s. It lasted this long before I added everything so we know it will perfectly fine without a support post in the dead center of the living room.
@WayPastCrazy2525
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter I was thinking the OP meant the center point of the new beam might sag just from the length. Maybe you screwed the ends and then moved the jack to the center to screw that beam in place?
@bwj999
2 жыл бұрын
Spruce doesn't add much strength compared to yellow pine. Makes good match sticks though.
@331whf9
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@erichood3169
2 жыл бұрын
Love when there's 1000 2 inch nails hanging from the ceiling.
@erichood3169
2 жыл бұрын
Multi tool comes.in handy
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Ya lol I think the person installing the subfloor wanted to try out their new nailer. I used a grinder to cut a bunch of nails but mostly a sawzall. Must've cut well over 1000 nails.
@evictioncarpentry2628
Жыл бұрын
I did a bathroom remodel in a 1950s house with undersized joists. I don't think people realize even being undersized how strong they are. I pulled 4500lbs of concrete/mortar and tile out of the ensuite and there was no sag in the floor after 70 years.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
100%. The structural integrity of materials are judged by their absolute minimum capabilities. They take the weakest lumber in its class and make codes based on that weakest link. Sometimes it's 50x weaker. You could drive a truck across a couple 2x12s on the flat.
@andrewfreeman88
Жыл бұрын
Also they were made actually size, 2x4 was 2x4 inches not 1/2 inch less as it is now.
@UnionParkPlumbing
2 жыл бұрын
I've always was told to run 1/2" bolts with washers to truly get a good sister between the joists, those structures screws seems a bit undersized, but then again I'm not sure what code actually calls for
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
These are more than adequate.
@acrinsd
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I've done that on a joist that was over notched a few times. Sandwich with 3/4" ply (per engineer) glued together and fastened with 1/2 in bolts with nuts and fender washers.
@pulaski1
2 жыл бұрын
I've always used bolts and washers, at least 3/8", .... But I've never needed to sister anything anywhere near that long. I think even the longest was less than 8ft. .... To fix problems an idiot caused when old joists were inconveniently in the way for tub drains, so he cut out more than half the width. The next joist over he removed 4ft of joist _entirely_ to make room for toilet drains and the vent stack. He "replaced" the missing 2x8 joist with some 2x4s! 😲
@charlievanlandingham567
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like those are the head lock or timber lock screws that are equivalent to a longer screw/lag
@Slowhand871
2 жыл бұрын
The code is what a structural engineer specifies as is all structural components of a building .
@2869may
2 жыл бұрын
F*cked around and got a triple double....
@aaronanderson7619
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even have to use my aye Kay, today was a good day.
@Patrick-jx1yo
2 жыл бұрын
🤜🏼💥🤛🏼
@tcap7917
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not saying "fish plate"
@Acme12345
2 жыл бұрын
It's actually called a "whale plate" and yes that is NOT one.
@GT20232
2 жыл бұрын
a right angle drill bit is handy in tight spots as well
@syesie5502
2 жыл бұрын
Love the how to video and explanation in the comments. Thank you.
@mini_worx
Жыл бұрын
Bro that top cut is a freaking saver. Thanks!!!!!
@2wheelsurfer
Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much strength you get from gluing and stapling plywood to those
@trainnerd3029
Жыл бұрын
I have use this technique so many times over the years I can’t even count. The little chunk you cut off before putting that floor joist in is the key! Nice work!
@cowtailcalvin
2 жыл бұрын
Run a temp thing to cut your button berry and drip it about there to the red light .. add a random measurement... Boom 💥 fixed your problem
@jonathandexter135
Жыл бұрын
I love sliding it in!
@levimoore8341
2 жыл бұрын
Comment for algorithmic purposes
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Hey I really appreciate that. Thanks
@charlesco7413
2 жыл бұрын
How did you gey the ridiculously long piece of wood down there in the first place?
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
It's the 1st floor of a cottage, not the basement. Only 6'6 ceilings.
@charlesco7413
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter ok, but i got serious basement energy from your camera angles.
@Steve-hj6xv
2 жыл бұрын
I'd add construction adhesive, in addition to the lags Overkill?
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing is overkill my friend. There was a 2x3 added next to this that was glued to this joist and the subfloor to receive some recessed T&G, so technically it's glued as well as the lags.
@Steve-hj6xv
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter ☮️
@dustinpomeroy8817
2 жыл бұрын
Haha I can fix that sag with a chalkline and a Skilsaw
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you want your 2nd floor to double as a trampoline lol
@dustinpomeroy8817
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter I mean who doesnt, trampolines are expensive
@mitchellw7118
Жыл бұрын
Was never a carpenter or any skilled trade I was always very strong and could lift anything from scaffold boards to sleepers, but watching these types of videos has made me fall in love with workworking and I've brought a selection of tools to do some basic work in my garage. Love watching professionals like yourself 🙏
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
Keep tackling projects. You can only get better. I hope my videos help
@gunghokage4986
Жыл бұрын
I was doing a similar repair once guess I did one to many pumps because the 4x4 I was using literally exploded into 100 pieces. It was a mess.😂
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
That's the very dangerous reality of using bottle jacks. You really need to go slow. Things settle over decades and they need to be lifted over time. If I'm picking up a heavy load I generally do it over the course of many days. You need to allow things to reset themselves and allow nails to pop. That's why we hear all those creaks and pops while we lift structures. It's a slow process. I've never blown a 4x4 apart but I have had a whaler spring out of place during a lift. We're both lucky no one was hurt.
@skillstacking
2 жыл бұрын
Great work dude
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@samuelanketell8190
2 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from pine floor joists if laminated beam ,steel H beam or seasoned hardwood was used problem solved
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Read pinned comment.
@boblab
Жыл бұрын
The screws should be going in from the side of the new joist into the old Joist for better penetration and holding power
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
They go from both sides.
@egotboi360
Жыл бұрын
Whoever framed your house , needs to be fired, seeing all those nails come through 😂
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
That was just someone who was trigger happy with their new nailer. All the primary subfloor nails hit the joists, that was just a secondary subfloor for laminate, which has since been covered with white oak.
@Ritzcrkrz96
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done this a few times with my dad nice video and great work 👍
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir.
@bnk28zfp
2 жыл бұрын
wow impresssive i need you help!!! hpw do i find some one like you?
@RK_Insanityy
2 жыл бұрын
Finally, home reno’s/ fixes done right
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tyler.
@thensr2011
2 жыл бұрын
Looks good 👍 as making it literally beefier... but, I did notice that the new sistered joist is only supported; the cut opening, on one side. 🤔 ... however, i also realized that the doubled beam does have a joist hanger on the end. Good job bro.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry.
@Lohanujuan
Жыл бұрын
Wow. So nice to see actual, well explained work on shorts
@davypig571
2 жыл бұрын
Watch out for those nails! There must have been a sale 😜
@louish.9414
2 жыл бұрын
So use 2 1/2 screw’s
@buellb0y
2 жыл бұрын
Lagged it from the wrong side…
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
It's lagged from both sides.
@charlesgutheil937
Жыл бұрын
This is great work. The remodel game is strong with this one.
@nickhealy1745
2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see it done properly! In the UK we would be required to use 12mm coach bolts and star washers staggered every 300mm or so for the full length, is this the same in the US? And yeah similarly to you, regs would say that should be a double flitch or RSJ.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick. It's not required here. It's being assisted from above with a wall and hangers that transfer to the oversized roof rafters.
@louish.9414
2 жыл бұрын
Spax 4” lag screws are just as strong without having to drill holes.
@Ben-mv9xc
2 жыл бұрын
This probably a dumb question but how did you make that opening or was it there already?
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Not dumb at all and I enjoy questions. I used an occilating multi tool. A sawzall would work as well, just not quite as clean of a cut.
@Ben-mv9xc
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter thanks I was wondering how you would do a cut like that I’m new and things like that cut always make me a slow worker
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-mv9xc Good to hear you're getting into the trade. Don't worry about being slow. We all start somewhere. I'll do my best to post some common cuts I use the multi tool for and how I keep them accurate.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-mv9xc I threw up a short video with a couple multi tool tips. I hope it helps.
@Ben-mv9xc
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter thanks a ton.
@alexayache8556
2 жыл бұрын
I love wood, love feeling it, love holding it. Love me some damn hard wood, even love soft wood.
@bmo14lax
2 жыл бұрын
@@joeschmoe8320 do you Respect wood?
@TonyVM775
2 жыл бұрын
Pause
@leeshellam3150
2 жыл бұрын
In the UK these joists must be bolted together not screwed....
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
These are 4 1/2" lag screws designed to replace through bolts in most applications.
@leeshellam3150
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter yup, I've seen them. They would fail building control in the UK.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
@@leeshellam3150 Well that's your loss. These are more than adequate for this situation. If it was a triple LVL with steel flitch plates then these would absolutely be through bolts. I do see a lot of comments from foreign builders trying to bash our practices any chance they get, so I know you're just fishing for something. Thanks for watching.
@leeshellam3150
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter No fishing here buddy 👍 just a comment stating that in my opinion as a structural engineer, and the UK's building code state, all joists must be through bolted. Its the best way, I'm just not into short cuts. Since we have buildings that survived 2 World wars and 300 years. I think the proofs in the pudding. When a building comes down at a mouse's sneeze. Questions must be asked .....
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
@@leeshellam3150 Correct me if I'm wrong but 300 years ago nuts and bolts weren't common practice for any country. Most things were notched which later proved to be problematic in its own way. I'd invite you to stay in one of our ocean front homes during a winter storm and tell me what you think about it falling down from a sneeze. Our ocean front houses in the Northeast take some of the most abuse in the world.
@jefsel881
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t look like Douglas Fir or Yellow pine. Using standard construction lumber is a waisted effort.
@constitutionalist938
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you didn't build the place originally but WOW! Talk about undersized joist... Another way is to take quality 3/4" ply, glue, clamp and screw the hell out of it with about four layers of this ply to create your own micro-lam, then add joist in between the existing joist. For example if you had 2' on center joist, add to create a 1' on center joist system along with making your own micro-lam in place. By going in between the joist to create a 1' on center system is way stronger than sister joist and keeping the 2' on center type of system. Of course this does not pertain to your triple joist you created for floor openings. Not saying you have 2' on center here,,,, just say'n... The system in the video appears to be 16" on center going by the sizes of timber I am sure of like your post for jacking. When we have done this we notch the joist corner the same as you have done here for installation ease and not to pop any tile or other existing flooring.
@bwj999
2 жыл бұрын
"Lets triple this double", that is usually opening comment when being served at the local pub... :D
@tysonmadding8559
2 жыл бұрын
Well I learned sumtin that cut will help out alot
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Glad I could help. Remember the size of the cut needs to be kept to the absolute minimum to maintain integrity.
@jakerossgil3048
2 жыл бұрын
Did a lot of good learn your woods that board is spruce needs to at least be a yellow pine
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
I needed the ceiling joists to remain coplaner for finishes so straightening this joist entirely would've caused problems. Spruce is a lot more common in my area so I worked with what was available. I wasn't going to special order a yellow pine 2x6 for a 16' span that would have made a trivial difference overall. There is a wall above the double that's hanging off of this triple so I used some extra blocking in the rafters as well as some larger fasteners and hangers so that the roof would assist with holding up this span. This was all done for free because the ceiling wasn't exposed before the quote was given and I never charge extras. Small potatoes in the overall scheme of adding a second floor to a home. Thanks for watching.
@paulemery9733
Жыл бұрын
Cutting some 1/2 plyboard to with will help oh so much with strength against sag, full 8ft length in the center, sandwich between the lumber....
@IllusiveChristie
2 жыл бұрын
What is the span? No beam?
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Check pinned comment.
@farmerbill6855
Жыл бұрын
Another 2×6 is way past the point of diminishing returns. The added weight of it will actually make this problem worse, not better.
@madyottoyotto3055
Жыл бұрын
FFS Why Just use a 2x4 and prop it nice hard kick with foot and screw Using jack's FFS
@heywoodjablome2018
Жыл бұрын
I miss framing/remodeling. Left bout 10yr ago to learn industrial mechanics. Money is better in industrial but not nearly as fun.
@ironmanxrp4980
Жыл бұрын
Should probably use lag bolts but I guess it depends on code in your kneckbof the woods... lag bolts would carry the weight better.
@bigreddog502
2 жыл бұрын
Palm nailers are awesome 🤘
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Yessir. I used them a lot more in the past when I didn't have a positive placement nailer but they're still useful in a tight spot. Simpson makes hanger screws to so a right angle drill/impact will get into tight spaces as well.
@patricknester435
Жыл бұрын
It is great to see somebody that knows what there doing and how to do it properly kudos for your video and keep up the good work and the good instructions on how to do something. My problem I'm in this business for 50 years and I have nobody behind me that even knows a 3rd of what I know so what's the world gonna come to when I'm gone and you're gone but kudos for keeping up great work
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
I'm 29 so I haven't done it long,17 years now. Older guys psyche out the young guys by telling them they don't want to be carpenters, get a comfy desk job, etc. It weeds out the weak, but it's been counterproductive. We need workers. We have nail guns and multi tools now, it's an easier world. Some softy's can handle it.
@toolsandtactics
2 жыл бұрын
awesome work!
@drlong08
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning a flitch plate!!! many long span joists with low depth will NOT be strengthened with yet another matching piece of lumber that doesn't have near the Fb of older lumber. Just wish you actually did it.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that and you can read the pinned comment to see why this was done this way.
@earlmcnastybmfcodm
2 жыл бұрын
You'd never fit an electric palm nailer in there lol
@kaydogcreations
Жыл бұрын
Jesus christ did you guys see all those nails xD wtf
@Mc-nn6nj
Жыл бұрын
Palm nailer! Don't use them much when framing but when you do, you do
@331whf9
2 жыл бұрын
You used cheap light weight spruce....shoulda used southern pine
@lenhart8487
Жыл бұрын
I have beveled the top of a sister joist to roll it in place
@mygame595
Жыл бұрын
You should be using yellow pine
@charlespressley1178
2 жыл бұрын
The police officer should have not been called for helping others sad.
@sheepdogpleb1509
Жыл бұрын
The Diablo torch blade is epic for nails and screws. Great clip I enjoyed it keep building the work my friend
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. The torch blades are awesome. They're just too thick for the blade flex required to hit some tight spots. I cut over 400 nails with a basic thin diablo that cracked at the collet and still lasted for another 40-50 nails. My biggest issue with blades is their weak point at the collet and Milwaukee fails while diablo lasts. I don't have enough experience with every blade on the market to say that diablo is the best but they certainly make me the most money.
@dtnineninety9406
2 жыл бұрын
I like these construction technologies are still from last century
@MrCrafter80
2 жыл бұрын
White pine has barely any added strength in deflection a better species or engineered
@remixm3594
Жыл бұрын
Didn't know nick Bosa from 49ers working carpenter too
@jpbonhomme5051
Жыл бұрын
You would have a field day in my 100 yr old house. Not a level surface, perpendicular wall or 90° angle anywhere in the building. It has 2 redeeming features though. 2 layers of tongue and groove hardwood boards running at 45° to each other really stiffen the floor. Also, the original structural wood members are actually 2×8s and 2×4s measuring 2"×8" and 2"×4" when measured
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
I see that more often than you'd think. I joke that it's structural T&G. It's not. I did a house a while back where every wall and ceiling was over 2" out. I couldn't straighten everything so I pulled some lines and cut some wedges so everything looked proper. We're not just carpenters, we're illusionists lol
@OriginalCoons
2 жыл бұрын
So I see why he takes some off the top and where he slides it in - what does he attach the other side to?
@HeinekenSkywalker636
Жыл бұрын
Last week I actually fucked around and got a triple double
@charlievanlandingham567
2 жыл бұрын
Why not msr syp? Doug fir not gonna carry the same load.
@dleasman
Жыл бұрын
Won't that 3rd 2x6 just sag with the other two, as they are already compromised. The problem is that it's just another pine 2x6. Using LVL would be a better fix, as it could do the job even without the existing timbers.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
It didn't correct the sag, it strengthened the existing joists. That's why I titled it the way I did and mentioned the flitch plate and larger joist at the end of the video.
@FreshBeatsification
2 жыл бұрын
As a house inspector I can say this was done proper and will last for a very long time
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Austin.
@Acme12345
2 жыл бұрын
As a builder I don't want you anywhere near any structure. If it was done properly it would not require reinforcement
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
@@Acme12345 You must be trolling. This is an on the fly add-on for a little additional strength that wasn't even required by a structural engineer. I chose to do this myself free of cost and it's more than adequate. Feel free to watch other videos of this build involving the support of the vaulted ceiling. I think you'll find that you're being extremely dramatic for absolutely no reason.
@charlievanlandingham567
2 жыл бұрын
@@Acme12345 is correct at least for our building dept. Ours says anything structural other than the studs (up to certain height) must be syp. I understand this is remodel but new construction, building inspection would fail us for sure
@osielmunoz2050
Жыл бұрын
Whats up with all the nails coming out the plywood?😂
@lossless4129
4 ай бұрын
KZitem, thank you. Nice lil short here brother 👌🏽
@derekbutler3409
2 жыл бұрын
By not putting in the correct size wood from the beginning that’s where you get your SAG then by adding a third piece is just lazy instead of adding the correct size it’s a Band-Aid it’s not going to last very long it’s going to sag eventually anyways so instead of going through all that problem to put a third piece of wood up you should just go ahead and put the right size one up to begin with i’m a certified carpenter I know everything about building houses and what you were doing is called scabbing in word and is lazy
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a licensed general contractor who works side by side with engineers. Did your certification involve learning that things can actually be supported from above as well as below? This span is assisted by a wall above it with hangers that transfer the load to oversized roof rafters. I don't scab anything I do. I propose my field solutions to a structural engineer who then approves them. I think I'll trust someone who not only costs a lot of money, but earns it having gone to school for 8 years and has been in business for 20. I honestly can't even imagine the arrogance behind a statement such as "I know everything about building houses." No one does. It's an ever evolving practice and a true master is an eternal student. You're just in your own little bubble of ignorance. Thanks for watching, I hope you learned something today.
@zefrum3
Жыл бұрын
U doing it wrong: dont use a saw for what a hammer/mini-sledge should be used for to get that sistered. Because, most of the strength of that sistered board was removed with your saw…translation: this DIY is a fail, and certainly not a DIR, Doing It Right
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
Lol I'm looking forward to your videos
@DaMaceIAm
Жыл бұрын
This was done correctly. I approve. This method is also used to help support the roof when load-bearing walls are removed to 'open up' several smaller rooms into larger one, a somewhat common practice nowadays in remodeling. But don't do it without an engineer! No engineer, no remove wall!
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
Depends on the guy. I used an engineer for this to approve of supporting it from above. At this point though, I can almost always correctly guess which size beams, posts, and hangers I need. I'm just remodeling though so things are fairly consistent, I'm not building skyscrapers. Boise-cascade also has some free beam calc software available for anything questionable.
@cutratecontractor1000
2 жыл бұрын
A real man uses 2 by 12s and not the nominal crap either
@jzeerod
Жыл бұрын
oh yeah i just bought a right angle cordless because of working around joist. might only NEED to use it a couple times a year but use it all the time doing stuff between joists simply because its more ergonomic and reach.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
I bought my right angle M12 for some steel cable stair rails. Thing is a gem. The torque is very impressive. Needed to drill a 2 1/2" holesaw through a triple stud and nothing else fit. It was scorching hot and produced that oh so familiar burning plastic smell but she got it done and is still going strong.
@nicholasphillips5406
3 ай бұрын
We were doing a plumbing remodel for a customer the other day at a huge home. She wanted the toilet relocated to the other side of the bathroom. No prob. We start demo and fine a steel plate like you mention. Except it’s 1” thick and 9” wide. Thickest one I’ve ever seen!
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
3 ай бұрын
@@nicholasphillips5406 Damn, back to the drawing board lol
@nancyselzer628
2 жыл бұрын
Are you always at mellow or did you just smoke a doobie?
@normbograham
4 ай бұрын
even after tripling this joist, it's still not strong enough. In my house I was wondering why one floor was bouncy, only to discover it was 2x6's, nearly 12' long.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
4 ай бұрын
Ya I mentioned that in the pinned comment.
@tanvirvirdi9956
Жыл бұрын
So is the beam supporting the structure or the structure is holding up the beam? If there are no support pillars, seems lile the structure is holding up the beam...
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
Structure is supporting the beam. Pinned comment explains the process.
@chrisvrabel4462
Жыл бұрын
the temp base for your post should span perpendicular to the floor joists below, no parallel. You're only using one joist to prop up the whole ceiling above...
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
I took off the 2nd floor, there was nothing above. Next question.
@darronshirley7886
2 жыл бұрын
If you have a doubler that is sagging you need to add a doubler or one on each side preferably use 2 that have a good crown of about 3/4 of an inch I am the most called structural failure specialist
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Check pinned comment.
@Iwillnotbepushed
Жыл бұрын
You put that piece of lumber in upside down. All dimensional lumber is cut with a crown that goes on top. That way when it’s loaded it straightens out.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
Not all lumber has a crown.. I had a straight piece of material because my lumber yards have a high turnover rate.
@davefinstad2979
Жыл бұрын
‘You can’t triple stamp a double stamp’
@trog.lodyte
Жыл бұрын
That one old joist is full of huge knots, has very low strength to begin with, no wonder it sagged carrying the stairwell beam mid span.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
It be what it be brother. Good fucking eye though. Old growth still far surpasses our nominal lumber. That's why we generally resort to engineered joists these days.
@thomasbabor6259
2 жыл бұрын
Why all that work just to add a POS white pine board ? If the job is worth doing then do it right. Use the correct lumber or a peace of steel
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
Read the pinned comment. Also, if you would like some references on the strength of lumber, watch the channel 'Engineering hub'.
@Cannisseur119
2 жыл бұрын
Ive watched this half a dozen times....
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
In a good way I hope lol
@Cannisseur119
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter definitely in a good way. I own a drywall company and we finish behind some of the absolute worse framing sometimes.... good to see framers focus on the small details
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
@@Cannisseur119 Thanks sir.
@robertkrohmer6593
2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Only one thing. Yellow pine vs white pine would delfect less.
@369ZIR
Жыл бұрын
Is it common for the bails to be sticking out like that in old homes? 😂 I’m from Australia have never seen this in any of our old homes.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
It was a secondary A grade 3/8 subfloor on top of a cheaper 5/8 subfloor. Someone got trigger happy with their new nailer.
@WhimsicallyDee
2 жыл бұрын
"Let's triple this double that is pretty undersized."
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
2 жыл бұрын
6'-6" ceilings.
@BrCarla
Жыл бұрын
Beam being hold by post and Simpson lay on 2x2x2 concrete now a window hopefully your header is good
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
Жыл бұрын
Neither side of this beam was ever carried by a proper post. So you'll have to elaborate on this.
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