I swear, That Pedal Show has cost me more money than any other channel on KZitem.
@LeonTodd
3 жыл бұрын
Man I remember that initial demo video for the Timeline - that set a whole new standard for what a humble "gear demo" could be.
@playinmyblues
2 жыл бұрын
After getting back into guitar playing and pedals for awhile, this channel has been very helpful and informative in my exploration in pedals and sounds. I have had the Empress Zoia for longer than that. I realize the Zoia is kind of not so much in line with the content of your show as it is so flexible but requires a lot of learning. And so many people are using it for more than just effects. Your content is so interesting that I still get drawn in by your shows even as I am thinking about what the Zoia/Euroburo and Poly Hector could do here.. This latest one that I have watched has put so much of what is out there in context of the past and more recent delay type pedals. Great stuff. I know I will be watching more future and past content.
@skovgaard2000
3 жыл бұрын
Loved seeing Rhett, Bea, and Andy. More of that please! Also, I need the Free The Tone on my board asap, that thing sounds godly
@phillipasby9202
3 жыл бұрын
And while hooking something up to a computer is never my first option - the DD500 editor does make finding and adjusting substantially easier - it's all in the menus but a big screen layout with click and adjust sure is helpful particularly when wanting to rearrange presets and the like.
@madangleradioshow8341
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan & Mick. Very interesting and thoroughly informative as usual.
@danec1384
Жыл бұрын
Funny to see Andy Timmons talk about the development of the Keeley Halo!
@ScottMedinaX
3 жыл бұрын
How is it that I’ve never seen a review on a mad professor golden cello pedal??
@bobthejohnsson
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan and Mick, I like all the comparisons between the delay pedals and personal favorites are the Echosystems and Timeline. Especially all the stuff you can do with parallel and in series. However, I still very much like to compose my own preferred delays hence have the Catalinbread Belle Epoch and Providence Chrono delay on my board. Question: with the new G3; cant you do exactly the same with positioning your most favorite delays as you require at any time in series or in parallel? Don’t need a multi delay then right?
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly Bob! And we agree with you - we’d probably go with two or three of our faves (swapping more in and out as the mood takes) rather than go for one the multi units. But a lot of people can’t be bothered with that, or don’t want to spend the cash so a multi makes sense. But otherwise, yes, we’d always advocate using the best examples of specific types (best to you of course, nothing is universally ‘best’. Cheers!
@DarClaude
3 жыл бұрын
I'm really stuck now as I'm looking at getting a decent delay unit and was about to pull the trigger on the Mako D1 but it doesn't have analog dry through (or a display), I didnt realise that was a key factor but it's got me in a quandry now.
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
It only matters if you’re doing wet dry. If you just play straight mono or stereo, all is good. If you don’t want to do wet dry, it’s a fantastic choice!
@DarClaude
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow Thanks for coming back to me! Following your awesome demos I am about to delve into the wet/dry world with a 2nd AC15 so I decided my first proper delay would be the Strymon DIG which I actually ordered today. Nearly went for the Volante but, like Mick, I appreciate a certain amount of simplicity in a pedal so, the DIG it is... Can you DIG it? (Greg Koch gag, sorry!)
@williambock1821
2 жыл бұрын
Hearing the phrase,”Non-gender specific monarch” was worth getting up today!
@straightedgeecw
3 жыл бұрын
How would the Future Factory sound run stereo through 2 parallel loops of the G3 into one amplifier? Any faux stereo imaging or just 2 very nice delays mixed in parallel?
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Erm, yeah. The latter. One amp means it’s monaural no matter what you do. That said, the RF Phase thing could create some interesting movement perhaps. And indeed by having some mod on one and not the other etc. Cheers!
@conservativeguitarsingerjs7937
3 жыл бұрын
The item management system in resident evil four is very similar to trying to optimize pedal board real estate lol
@RabeaMassaad
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for asking me chaps! Great video. Honestly I really really liked the free the tone! But, yeah, to migrate from my beloved timeline and all my presets.... I don’t know if I have the energy hahah! Thanks again! Much love ❤️
@paulcadwallader3000
3 жыл бұрын
looking great Rabea!
@niebuhrsongs
3 жыл бұрын
What reverb are you pointing to on your board? Is it a Strymon as well?
@danbrazieruk
3 жыл бұрын
@@niebuhrsongs Bea runs the "Stryfecta" I think. Big Sky, Timeline and Mobius.
@Po1itica11yNcorrect
3 жыл бұрын
Dang, Rabea! Where did the rest of you go? If intentional, great job. If not, get to a doctor quick!! LOL
@oloflundin3876
3 жыл бұрын
The timeline might be the king but the dd-500 is surely the boss
@Keysounds0
3 жыл бұрын
And the Echo System is the empress, surely
@questocd174
3 жыл бұрын
Zing!
@wulf67
2 жыл бұрын
DD-500 might be the boss, but the Memory Boy is the... boy?
@jayyoungmusic919
2 жыл бұрын
Corny
@John-e4p1x
2 жыл бұрын
Remeber: BOSS stands for: Body Odor of Strat Slingers. Strymong stands for: quality
@nimh1515
3 жыл бұрын
That pedal show, is still king of pedal shows for sure.
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Ah bless you!
@maniacalion6170
3 жыл бұрын
Normal people: what a 1 hour and 20 min KZitem video 😡 That Pedal Show viewers: YAASSS over an hour of awesomeness 😁
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dylanmackay1657
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow I watch while I’m working in Calgary, and it’s the best way to start my day on Fridays. And almost an hour and a half?? Bonus!!
@bicisnobombas
3 жыл бұрын
I thought exactly the same thing
@fawkesandhound
3 жыл бұрын
TPS fans: Hour 20!? is that all? 😉
@archie3k433
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love this show.. 1+ hour of video, 15 minutes of acutal information. lol
@jordanlatham3704
Жыл бұрын
I sold my timeline a few months ago after owning one for almost 7 years. Went down a rabbit hole of delay pedals and came out of it with a newly purchased timeline as of 2 days ago 😂. It’s that good. I didn’t realize how much id miss the simplicity of work flow and how awesome it sounds.
@PeterBurton1991
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a Timeline user since it came out. Hundreds of gigs and it’s never let me down! I’ve tried a few other more recent releases and nothing has kicked it off my board. There’s a certain thing that the tape algorithm does when running stereo that I just can’t live without 👌🏼
@RabeaMassaad
3 жыл бұрын
Dude you’re the reason I use it! I remember coming into your room back in Guildford hearing you have it set up in stereo. Blew my mind!
@wolfhorsky
3 жыл бұрын
I totally get You. Same dTape camp, here ;-) The way the delay repeats sound and can be set really ambient with Filter and Grit knobs... There is something magical in it. That feature alone is making this unit worth the money.
@PeterBurton1991
3 жыл бұрын
@@RabeaMassaad Ah yes! I'd forgotten about that. Can't believe the pedal has been out for nearly 10 years!
@willgoodfellow3144
3 жыл бұрын
Watching this with my 6 day old son asleep on my chest. Thanks for keeping me sane!
@mattflickinger8151
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! My young 10 month old has seen / heard many a TPS
@danbrazieruk
3 жыл бұрын
congrats, Will! My kiddos love watching/listening to TPS too :)
@willgoodfellow3144
3 жыл бұрын
@@danbrazieruk cheers Dan!
@ramon2008
3 жыл бұрын
Congrats brother !!! Your son is off to a good start
@alexsawyer7313
3 жыл бұрын
❤️
@therealdealblues
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what everyone else is talking about, I'm still stuck on Andy Timmons may have a signature delay coming out 😯 As far as Timeline, sold it for DD500. More options than about anything out there. Would love to play the Free The Tone Future Factory one day though.
@xthexadvantagex
3 жыл бұрын
AFAIK Andy just used a couple of old finicky memory mans. Now if they can get a new pedal to sound like those old beat up beautiful delays I’d buy it. It would be even more amazing if it was Electro Harmonix! Half analog half digital.
@denismguitar1552
3 жыл бұрын
Whatever Andy does ends up great. Just sayin. Can’t wait to see what it may be.
@therealdealblues
3 жыл бұрын
@@xthexadvantagex Yeah, he did. He always used 2 with modulation set for that 1/4 note and dotted 8th thing. But that's part of what has me curious. Will it be a digital pedal, or an analog stereo dual modulated memory man style delay pedal. Definitely interested to find out.
@MrEdsousa
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if the company in question is JHS.
@therealdealblues
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrEdsousa That was my first thought.
@VonBlade
3 жыл бұрын
Mick upgraded the firmware and also happily delved into a menu?! Who are you and what have you done with the real Mr Taylor? (also being a pedant, the Future Factory party tricks needs moving back on the timeline in the chapters, and the DD500 putting where the FTT is)
@all_mesa_man922
3 ай бұрын
What in God's holy name are you blathering about?
@ozmassb2594
3 жыл бұрын
*looks at old beaten road worn DL4* Not today old friend You’re still mine
@evanpowers1795
3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about my dd-20 😕
@latontolog
3 жыл бұрын
I've got a Nemesis and it's very nice and all, but there's just something magical about those slightly imperfect and gritty old Line6 algoritms.. They're still going strong within my HX Stomp!
@TheElrondo
3 жыл бұрын
It's golden times for us guitarists. There is such a mass of pedals in every genre to choose of. Even affordable pedals come very close and do a good job for the average guitarist. ...and what comes to my mind writing this: What are we driven by to chase for the perfect sound, wich never exists? Are we trying to get a piece of the fame and abilities of so called "guitar gods" instead of practicing more and create our own sound? I own about 8 or 9 Trem pedals and every time a new one pops up i think "Maybe it's better than my other ones?" Is the newest Overdrive maybe "better" than the other 1500 that already exist or the 10 i already own? What is it what i'm driven by? Covering my own disabilities of my playing? No, i don't know why i'm in such a philosophical mood. 😎
@melvoid01
3 жыл бұрын
And there was me worried about why I own 4 chorus pedals, I shall sleep easier tonight thank you.
@joelpickett812
3 жыл бұрын
Whether it is or it isn’t, it has certainly stood the test of time.
@EpicStuffMan1000
3 жыл бұрын
line
@druwk
3 жыл бұрын
@@EpicStuffMan1000 beat me to the punch! 😂
@SomeKindOfMadman
3 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Sir!
@joesatchton212
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Although, TBH, 10 years is not a very long period of time. Now stuff like the FuzzFace... :P :)
@BobJones-bh9qz
3 жыл бұрын
I was very impressed with the flashback x4
@zakyokingco9599
3 жыл бұрын
On the analog delay engine of the boss DD500, you just change the "Stage" parameter to "4096x4"and the delay time gets longer :)
@RobCarleton
3 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this!
@michael_caz_nyc
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, on page 14 in the DD-500 manual, you can Extend the Analog Delay Time. The repeats get even darker and more degraded = similar to the EHX Memory Man or the Analogman ARDX 20.
@murfmurphy6212
3 жыл бұрын
Yes - its to simulate adding multiple BBD chips i.e. single one for 300ms, more for longer times but more filtering etc
@LTJR.
3 жыл бұрын
Man who remembers plugging in the big Reticon chips? Came up on a couple of those in pill containers in foam beds, in a tackle box the other day. I had the first incarnation of jam man in a rack mount... Wild Jimi Hendrix backwards solos so long ago
@herschelvonrudiger
3 жыл бұрын
Longer like infinite without going crazy? I mean constant and stable?
@benjaminturcotte7620
3 жыл бұрын
Just some thoughts about the lack of screen on the echosystem... I’ve had the echosystem since pretty close to when it came out. I’ve played many gigs with it now. I find that during gigs, the lack of screen isn’t an issue. For a while, I used the “bank preset system” with an external tap tempo. So that gives you 3 presets hot and ready, and fairly clear indication of which bank/preset you’re in/using. Eventually I wanted to be able to access more than 6 presets (2 banks of 3 presets each). At that point, if you’re using that many presets, then you probably want some kind of MIDI controller. You’d also probably want a more clear way of indicating the currently selected preset-a screen. Luckily many MIDI controllers have a screen so really, the only pain is when you’re playing around trying to find a sound... Although I’ve had a number of happy accidents where I find a really awesome sound when I’m looking for something specific, sometimes you just want to get the specific sound and play the damn song/part. That’s when it can be really useful to just have the engines and thing 1&2 parameter mappings memorized (or a screen) especially for the less conventional delay types/modes. Also, the advanced configuration is awesome because it allows for a lot of flexibility, but most of the time (even after over 2 years) I still need to double check the manual to make sure I’m changing the thing I think I’m changing... I had to google it during sound check once... I wanted to turn the cab sim on because the amp went down. I got it figured out just in time, but having a screen would’ve been much less stressful. I guess what I’m saying is that it can be inconvenient at times, but the sounds and features are just so damn good. It’s been the only pedal in the last two years that has never left my board. My advice to someone considering the echosystem but is intimidated by the manual-diving etc.: if you have the attention span to read this whole comment then you’ll do just fine.
@alannedelec2714
3 жыл бұрын
I am considering replacing my EHX Grand Canyon by a more high end delay in few months time. And definelty the echosystem is on the short list. But I have to replace my reverb first and the order is passed for the Empress reverb. Such a great pedal company.
@theyearoftherat
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Used Timeline since it came out and the Empress kicked it off my main board and to a smaller grab and go board. The Echosystem, for me, just brings more to the table.
@mattheweastel129
3 жыл бұрын
Great summary, thanks for that
@Stoffendous
3 жыл бұрын
I skipped through your post. Should I skip the echosystem as well?
@chapter_black3234
2 жыл бұрын
I read the comment and I’m ADD 😂
@DavidDyte1969
3 жыл бұрын
In these pandemic times, I only buy my pedals from the Analog Drive Thru.
@T_oddsoul
3 жыл бұрын
The EchoSystem sounds incredible, but the lack of a screen is a real barrier for me.
@moonsama395
3 жыл бұрын
Same opinion , the interface doesn't cut it imho
@danjamesstew
3 жыл бұрын
I am the exact opposite! To each their own :)
@sebastiens7621
3 жыл бұрын
to have had the Time Line and the echosytem today. the sound makes you forget the lack of screen. the difference in sound quality for me is really too important, not to mention the dual engine which allows almost limitless combinations of delay. on top of that, the ecosystem takes up half the space.
@chriskocher1469
3 жыл бұрын
I like the way it sounds , but have the same concern. You could get a Selah Quartz to remedy that (and do Aimee other cleverness) but that’s lots of extra £
@christopherwilliams375
3 жыл бұрын
It definitely requires a lot of secondary knob functions and button press combos. But it’s so lush.
@oliverbarry7160
3 жыл бұрын
The epic delay pedal series you did years back lead me to buy a dd-500 and it's been the king for me ever since. So much more than just a delay
@scott_brandon
3 жыл бұрын
The Timeline totally has a Dual engine that can be set in Series or Parallel. Not sure how or why Dan said it doesn’t. Pattern is not the only option for dual delays on it.
@ninocarlitos5229
3 жыл бұрын
Nononono......none of them can do 23 second delayed reverse intro like old almighty DD-20!
@mykelc205
3 жыл бұрын
DOD RUBBERNECK.
@CaesarTjalbo
3 жыл бұрын
No, no, no, no, you have to do it completely different. Let me show you: "Hey Mick and Dan, how about a show that features the Jam Pedals Delay Llama Supreme/Xtreme front and center? You could compare it to some other similar delays such as the MXR Carbon Copy Deluxe and the DOD Rubberneck but it's mostly about something from Jam Pedals so don't worry."
@brettdiaz
3 жыл бұрын
I love the DOD Rubberneck
@stanislavmigra
3 жыл бұрын
When they did the Whisky setting of Echo system, they must be drinking Laphroaig 😁
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Peaty. I can’t do it! Mick here.
@stanislavmigra
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow what I completly understand, even as it is my favourite whisky brand.
@darrencunningham4782
3 жыл бұрын
I love my dd500. My mate uses a line 6 hx effects just for delays. Sounds great!
@marslightsnoise
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a close thing, but I think the DD500 has taken the title
@aaronbusch1993
Жыл бұрын
I came here to decide between Echo System and Timeline…. And walked away with the FF-1Y I don’t know what it was exactly, but the first time it’s played at 33:15 is just stunning. The ping pong, clarity, slight modulation… everything. It just nails what I wanted in a “simple” but robust delay pedal. Coming tomorrow. Super pumped. Thanks guys!
@ThatPedalShow
Жыл бұрын
We feel the same way about it, there’s just something in it
@chrisegg7936
3 жыл бұрын
I was REALLY hoping I could come away from this episode without feeling the urge to spend a couple thousand dollars.... alas.... Lucky for me I have no capability to do that.
@ArtyShat
3 жыл бұрын
I love my Walrus Audio D1 Mako, way more compact and all the sounds you would really need from a delay. I'm sure soon we gonna have something like Dr. Scientist Atmosphere but delay version.
@joecoombsguitarist
3 жыл бұрын
Strymon managed to figure out very early on that analog dry through, large quantity of presets and high-quality DSP algorithms were going to be the new big thing for pedals. I have been a Timeline owner for about 3 years now and every time I use it it is just the exact sound I have in my head and is a serious tool in the studio. Kudos to Strymon, they really changed the world of Pedals.
@ryanprescott933
3 жыл бұрын
This video coming out two days after I bought a Timeline is just 2020 in a nutshell.
@hodge8947
3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I have found that has tempted me to "make do" as someone who won't ever afford to have a Timeline and Bigsky.. is the Dispatch Master... which shocks even me, because it has basically no features and 1 switch, on or off.. but it just sounds so so good.
@bicisnobombas
3 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I so completely enjoy TPS is watching how much fun you two have geeking out over pedals and getting to partake a bit in that fun. The fact that these shows are also highly informative makes everything you all do just fabulous. Thanks!
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andreas, glad you enjoy it!
@antonyfaulkner8649
3 жыл бұрын
TimeLine does have dual delay lines. Its one of the Engines, strangely enough its called "Dual". Top panel right above Digital. PARALLEL sends delays 1 and 2 to Left and Right respectively if using stereo out.
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@chateautemp
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow TPS: 'Pretty sure it doesn't make coffees or teas for you while you play'. Commenter: 'Actually if you split the first menu into the return of the effects send and override the flux capacitor it'll make tea, coffee and throw in an iced vo-vo for good measure'.
@Louis_Rain
3 жыл бұрын
Boss DD-200, maybe easier to use and program? I love it.
@christophernoia5197
3 жыл бұрын
You gotta ask Ed O’Brien his thoughts! We know you have his number and we know he’d be down!
@thinkthirsty1305
3 жыл бұрын
Crucial timing, gentlemen. This is the very dragon I'm chasing at the moment
@chaz32
3 жыл бұрын
The real question is when is the next breakthrough chip arriving? SHARC has had its day. In the meanwhile, my vote is for the Volante - I've been tweaking that pedal solidly for a year.
@ontheroad579
3 жыл бұрын
There's SHARC+. There are more powerful DSP chips in the SHARC/SHARC+ catalog than the ones Strymon uses.
@thomasshugar5636
3 жыл бұрын
The DD500 can also be run in Series, or Parnell. The Screen is so much better than the Timeline. Those two factors were a huge selling point for me.
@houseofshred3725
3 жыл бұрын
Great episode! I'm hopelessly stuck on the Carbon Copy though. I know it's cheap and plain and boring compared to these splendid delay units, but there's something about that murky, dark, modulated sound that's just great. It's like a delay, a reverb and a chorus at the same time. MXR just nailed it with that thing.
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
It’s awesome. Does analogue delay better than anything here! Mick here.
@erpringle
3 жыл бұрын
The carbon copy and the echo plex will never leave my board. Carbon copy for slap back and mod and echo plex for the aged warbley, if that's a word, slower delay. The flashback x4 does the rest that I need. To me, nothing sounds as good as an echo plex.
@thinkthirsty1305
3 жыл бұрын
CC is an eternal board fixture for me
@lashlarue7924
Жыл бұрын
+1
@jorgenvandeburgt8670
3 жыл бұрын
It's nice, but it's no Deluxe Memory Man.
@Dan-tp3py
3 жыл бұрын
That board would be perfect if they replaced each of those super delays with a DMM! (That's right, 4 DMM's!!)
@mykelc205
3 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@sjoerdvanloon
3 жыл бұрын
What's better about the Deluxe Memory Man? I have tried it when I bought my MXR CC (also compared to the Line6). After that I bought the Timelime, and a while back I treated myself with the DOD Rubberneck (which is noisy but cool). Looking for a reason to buy an extra delay ;).
@Dan-tp3py
3 жыл бұрын
@@sjoerdvanloon that’s like asking Why whales beach themselves. Do yourself a favor, and just get one.
@kjphoto
3 жыл бұрын
"...dreadfully cool." --copyright Mick Taylor 2020
@Ben-iz5ml
3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 250k. That being said, I’m curious why the channel hasn’t reached the heights of some of the other guitar channels out there. Do you have insight into this? It’s ultimately just numbers, and obviously not the reason why you all do what you do, I just feel like you do it better than anyone and yet you’re in some cases millions behind others within the niche. This is my first comment (have watched since 2016) and it’s a little bit of a downer, sorry! I love your work! My best to the entire TPS family.
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Our videos are long, we don’t do cheap focus stuff, one of us is a middle aged bald guy, probably a few reasons
@proof377
2 жыл бұрын
I think what makes others get lots of views is that they do shorter, easier to digest videos. This channel does longer, more in depth/existential videos. I love both forms and I fully believe there’s a need for both.
@jz0h4d
3 жыл бұрын
After I watched this one I bought a dd500, after massive disappointment for a few days I got the Timeline! The Timeline is the one for me in the studio.
@savanaviolenta
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That delay covers all your needs for a delay in a studio. All the rest are just variations, that are good to have if, you have the cash. Lost of choices these days.
@1alexanderkup1
3 жыл бұрын
what was wrong with DD-500? I'm using mine for 2 years already and it does exactly what I need. Slightly modulated delays with adjustable BPM
@antonyfaulkner8649
6 ай бұрын
330ms - 10 seconds on the Timeline. 30 minutes on all the others combined. Still King. 😅😊
@rtosborne4
3 жыл бұрын
Also, did anyone else crack up at the word, “Swellebration”? 🙋🏼♂️🤣
@alexlewis8468
3 жыл бұрын
The end of the world really is happening,... first Covid and now Mick is updating firmware on a digital pedal! Great show guys!
@petelavery1866
3 жыл бұрын
Fancied a timeline, went for a DD500 and have a volante running alongside it. Covers everything for me. Great video guys as usual!
@peterosipov400
3 жыл бұрын
Never bonded with a Timeline. It sounds great, it has tons of features, but every time I play it I'm like "Wow, cool!" and after five minutes either switch to playing without delay or switch to my analog delay that does just a small percentage of what Strymon can do, yet I can spend a lot of time playing it. To me Timeline is not an inspiration machine, but a workhorse that could handle all my delay needs (and a looper too) if I'd play in three bands of different musical genres. But for writing my own songs it just doesn't work somehow, though I really want to love it.
@samosaarts
3 жыл бұрын
Kind of have a similar experience with the timeline
@AndrewNuttall
3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, had the exact same reaction. Ended up just leaving it on one or two settings, then selling it. Ended up going back to the ARDX20, and now switched to the Thermae from Chase Bliss, with a Mood and Blooper doing second and third delay options when needed. Found them just more inspiring and can get all the sounds I liked from the Timeline without all the menu tweaking.
@malcomjohnny3880
3 жыл бұрын
I agreed! Just got timeline and bigsky today and it was amazing but make me less playing.
@iamnoone4046
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@weschilton
3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewNuttall I love the Thermae, just picked one up a few months ago.
@alexanderwebb3032
3 жыл бұрын
There’s a setting in the Analog mode on the DD-500 that lets “add more chips” which gives you more time. Took me forever to figure it out but I noticed an analog preset that had longer time. The tape and drum modes have hidden multi-head modes as well.
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Aha, thank you. See it’s stuff like that that just doesn’t make sense to me to hide it away like that!
@alexanderwebb3032
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow It drove me crazy for a good long while. In the end I didn’t keep it and I’ve tried the timeline a couple of times but ended up selling it as well. I find that end up fiddling with knobs too much or I’ll just cycle through the presets and play a couple of lines and move to the next one (I do that with multi-effects). I don’t find that they make me very creative musically. I seem to be overwhelmed with the options I guess. The Volante has worked better for me I guess because everything I need is in front of me.
@2speedy4u22
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow all about making it a more authentic simulation. But I agree takes more energy to get your head around.
@jwm9106
3 жыл бұрын
Hidden just scares me off.
@mattrussell106
3 жыл бұрын
@@2speedy4u22 yeah, Dan even commented that the DD500 modelled the noise in the chip.
@nevusofota
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned the Timeline for about 7 years . Gigged it weekly for that entire time. I only scrape the surface of what it can do and only use about 3-4 delay sounds regularly. However, it’s worth owning and will probably never leave my board because, besides having excellent standard delay tones, I also like to use it as an inspiration generator at home by using its unique delay sounds and looper. I don’t ever see myself needing another delay pedal.....ever. The Timeline is now a timeless classic, it’ll always be regarded as a game changer for pedal boards, much like the 2290 was (and still is) for racks.
@mgbasinski
3 жыл бұрын
Check out Vol 77 of Homeskoolin (Nov 3): Uncle Larry has the Timeline on his pedalboard in the Bukovac garage!
@PaoloMarelliGuitar
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have an Echosystem and I love it, but the Free The Tone looks so cool too. Although one thing that makes the Echosystem stand out and it's often overlooked is that it has an inbuilt ISOLATION TRANSFORMER in case you use it with 2 amps :)
@adrianhjordan1981
2 жыл бұрын
Presumably you can then send different delay lines (running in parallel) to each output, so for example a slapback in one amp and longer delay to the other?
@eriknorlander5814
3 жыл бұрын
When I put the Timeline on my board it just became the centerpise of it. It's never going away.
@MartinCliffe
3 жыл бұрын
Had a Timeline for about 5 years. Only use it sparingly. Much prefer something simple like an MXR Carbon Copy or a Mad Professor Deep Blue Delay, or even my crusty old TC Nova Repeater. Same story with the Mobius, sounds great, but just never make much use of it. Perfectly happy with the programming side, so it's not that. Just doesn't inspire me.
@cirjames2540
3 жыл бұрын
Good gear is great tone. Taste may change through the years but like the 808, Klon, Big Muff and many others, good tone will stand the test of time.
@bensonliang4702
Жыл бұрын
I will say the king for me is Empress Echosystem.
@wesleyfletcher7654
3 жыл бұрын
We need a TPS on how to get 80's rack style sounds with pedals!
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Mick here - I’m kinda half stepping there with my Kingsley preamps / Mesa power amp rig. But I really don’t want all that nasty digital sheen... so let’s see what unfolds!
@wesleyfletcher7654
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow I like solving this particular puzzle better than I like the results :) But there are times where I really like that sound!
@newyeareves
3 жыл бұрын
I second this!!
@jwm9106
3 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyfletcher7654 Just buy a Rockman. R.J Ronquillo just did a great video on this subject.
@djm-check1458
3 жыл бұрын
Simple on the DD-500, select the SDD-2000 or 3000 mode.
@joshbrown8098
Жыл бұрын
Hate to say it guys; the looper functions are almost as important, or even equally as important to users with these types of units. It’s really unfortunate that you guys never get into that part of the functionality in your delay reviews.
@ThatPedalShow
Жыл бұрын
Don’t hate Josh, just say it. The hate part is not necessary.
@rockoloco97
3 жыл бұрын
FUTURE FACTORY sounds soooo good. Way above the other 3 in my opinion. It just sounds so Hi-Fi.
@lawrencevaughan5373
3 жыл бұрын
I had one. It sounded incredible, but the build quality was questionable. It feels a bit flimsy in comparison to other pedals.
@danielbertola7868
3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Empress Echosystem all the way. Dual engines can be ran in parallel, stereo, or left/right. Isolated outputs. Cabsim available. Five track looper and much smaller.. Though, in the Timelines defense, it has a few generations older DSP chips. I loved it when I owned it.
@mattflickinger8151
3 жыл бұрын
So glad someone convinced me to go echosystem 2 years ago, was about to go Timeline
@danielbertola7868
3 жыл бұрын
@@vandal_dk It sounds very "pure". Something I like very much. There is a clarity a couldn't find in the Timeline. The TL always had this background character that was ever-present. Not bad just always there. IMO the Empress sounds better in general, though the TL has a better tape delay sound. The differences are minute, but based on the above features, I find it much more useful on my board.
@JP-is9sc
3 жыл бұрын
no screen, so i preffer the timeline. i work everything with bpm
@danielbertola7868
3 жыл бұрын
@@JP-is9sc That is a major plus for the Timeline. I get around this with a global midi clock from the DAW
@christopherwilliams375
3 жыл бұрын
No. Not better in headphones. Not when you make sure to watch TPS in your home theater with a legit rig!
@ONEALIEN24
3 ай бұрын
3 years after.... and im still amazed by Dan patience hehe
@guitarsimon1
3 жыл бұрын
Mick describing the multi repeat tap function on the Echosystem as ‘dreadfully cool’ was cathartic as hell, just articulated perfectly the way I felt.
@Gorphoz
3 жыл бұрын
I was literally asking myself this earlier today. I seem to have joined the TPS hive mind Awesome.
@AlbusBand
3 жыл бұрын
They’re all great...I do enjoy the mash function on the tape setting of the TC (from personal experience), but the fidelity on that Free the Tone was unreal. In fact, the FTT is the only one I haven’t played or owned and it was super cool. I dunno, they all rule. Great job per usual and thank you for always putting so much time and effort into inspiring episodes. I hope you’re well, stay safe. All Love, Aaron
@alanredversangel
3 жыл бұрын
Surely the king is whichever pedal has the longest delay time?
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!
@tompoynton
3 жыл бұрын
my dad has a longer delay time than your dad
@alanredversangel
3 жыл бұрын
@@tompoynton My dad's done time.
@duffdunlap6705
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome show. I do not need that complexity but wow. Thinking about getting the “Free the Tone”..
@matttorres8921
2 жыл бұрын
This video really made me still want the Timeline so I ordered it! I think second is Future Factory even though that delay OD sounds terrible, then Echo System, then DD-500.
@andrewfuentes1632
3 жыл бұрын
I have the echo system only because there’s something kinda cool about how it looks, pretty easy to use, how it works and sounds. And using midi with it really steps it up, plus there is a looper with an update. Excellent show guys! 👌🏽
@bluesful
3 жыл бұрын
That Free The Tone sounds sooooooooooooo good. The fidelity seems to be a level up from the others.
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Yep! That’s what we thought. :0)
@justinguitarcia
3 жыл бұрын
this is the one I have not tried yet and have no reference, really need to check one out since nothing has yet removed the timeline for me (with regard to fidelity, noise, sounds, design)
@dariusliadon
3 жыл бұрын
Seriously how clean is that thing? And the tweakability, I reeeeeally want one now.
@michael_caz_nyc
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Chorus junkie (having played in a Rush tribute band) & their Tri Avatar is the Best Sounding Chorus I have ever heard. (no seasick pitch warble). I can get that Alex Lifeson Sound, but also Sounds Heavenly for my Acoustic gig's. F.T.T. makes top-of-the-line stuff.
@bluesful
3 жыл бұрын
@@dariusliadon sooooooooooo clean.
@Millennial_Mike
3 жыл бұрын
Next time you get to DD500 out whack on the terra echo... it's stunning
@Piplodocus
3 жыл бұрын
2 Thoughts... If you have a Timeline/Bigsky/Mobius do yourself a favour and download the Nixie editor. Handy to just back up and organise presets. If like me you end up sat playing and making presets next to your computer, it's great to just be able to copy, move and tweak stuff about without bending over the whole time or going in the menus. It's definitely not a show-stopper if a pedal doesn't have an editor, but it can make pedals with lots of presets a lot easier to make full use of and keep organised. One thing to note if you have the cunning plan to tweak it via wireless Bluetooth MIDI: the MIDI output on the Timeline isn't fully wired to power a Yamaha MD-BT01 MIDI bluetooth adapter. Boo. So you need physical wires else plug the wireless MIDI return in something daisy-chained off the out that does, e.g. I do Timeline MIDI out->Diezel MIDI In->Diezel MIDI out to MD-BT01.
@danielgrubb9496
3 жыл бұрын
Timeline is so usable live, always adds to what I'm doing and never gets in the way. It is extremely rare that I ever turn it off. I setup a preset per song, normally a quiet low mix reverby type sound or slapback and then a higher mix more prominent delay effect on B foot switch. This brings me to a few things that timeline isn't good for.. there isn't a option for a pristine rhythmic delay, think Boss style bouncy digital. So I run either a DD7 or DD200 stacked w timeline for that sound. Timeline always wants to diffuse into reverb that ducks below the guitar. The boss delays get very rhythmic and pulse to the beat without losing fidelity as the repeats fade, stacked they kick ass. The last complaint I have w timeline are the stereo features, and I think this is how the timeline will eventually be bested. The timeline doesn't really offer ping-pong or panning delays. They all sound excellent in stereo w a broad image but it the sound seems to never bounce back and forth. Strymon Dig mastered this, Boss Delays handle true stereo in an interesting way as well. Timeline is still king in my world though!!!
@pliocenemusic8667
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t even think TimeLine is the king of the Strymon delays. I had one and sold it for a Volante & DIG...both of those have way more character IMO. But then again I’m not into the mega algorithm pedals. I like pedals that specialize in a particular sound.
@michael_caz_nyc
3 жыл бұрын
Loving my DD-500 = infinite tone-shaping & tweak-ability. You can do some deep-dive editing, and get most Any Delay Sound you can ever want or need. Boss has always done fantastic Delay pedals. I also use a Big Sky & F.T.T. Tri-Avatar Chorus. So many great choices & options. Stay Safe.
@TheSutts12
3 жыл бұрын
I once bought a Boss Giga DD20 and that was me done.......Boomer ism I know
@laf8059
3 жыл бұрын
Still echosystem for me. Only con is you don't get a screen.
@MH5tube
3 жыл бұрын
I do a bit of UI stuff here and there, most fancy digital pedals make me go "oh my god"
@KozmykJ
3 жыл бұрын
I almost went "Meh! more delays" on this one BUT I'd have regretted it if I had. Great Rabbit Hole investigation. Due to financial constraints I'll still probably continue to save up for the Mooer Ocean Machine though ...
@nedward5871
3 жыл бұрын
Nixie editor librarian makes the Timeline and (Mobius, Big Sky) even more versatile to edit patches as well as change order of patches easily - just use their recommended MIDI interface plugged directly into your Mac/PC (no USB hubs)
@geluix69
3 жыл бұрын
Bought the DD-500 over the Timeline , never looked back .
@lending99
3 жыл бұрын
What about the KORG SDD3000 pedal?
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
It’s really great, it’s massive and tricky to power which might put people off but it is a great sounding delay
@christopherwilliams375
3 жыл бұрын
The FF seems in some ways similar to the new Strymon Night Sky. I mean, the FF does to delay what the NS does to reverb. You start with a sort of “base” delay sound pristine digital), and have the means to sonically manipulate any of several parameters to create the delay(s) you want. It’s the ultimate delay playground.
@PeterGuitarSound
3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing lately... still the king !! Love the Volante, but it don't overlap the Timeline in the ease of use, mainly due to the lack of screen. You're doing more and more Stereo rig, instead of Wet/Dry.... Love it ahahah
@OneMoreGrave
3 жыл бұрын
If I had to pick one of those it's the Empress hands down. Personally, I like the idea of the Volante more. A strong engine dedicated to a couple very specific amazing sounds.
@LoffysDomain
Жыл бұрын
"Or any kind of mike?" What does he say in the beginning?
@t3golf
3 жыл бұрын
The Timeline has become the SM57 of delays. They’ll always be around no matter what else comes out. Hardly anyone will ever be disappointed because they bought it. I have my Echosystem much to do because of your initial videos on it years ago. Love it. A bit complicated, but it is incredible.
@colaboytje
3 жыл бұрын
I have one. Love it. However, since the Volante, the Timeline hasn't been on my board.
@11wario11
3 жыл бұрын
Audio alone - the Empress won for me, but the UI scares me. Great video as always, but not a “no-brainer” in the group. Exploring the Meris stuff (analog dry thru?) and Collider for footprint. Keely Echos also checks lots of my boxes.
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