0.5 for a Surfer!!!! OMG!! A Surfer finally DEMOLISHES 85% of all the cars in one aspect. I can die in peace now.
@dafff08
8 жыл бұрын
good video but there must be another factor, because driving off road lowers your engine power. you can easily test it with trevors bodhi which has a "off road grip loss" of 0. the engine does sound stressed on higher speeds. once you glide back on asphalt you can hear and feel the acceleration
@CaptainOguretz
8 жыл бұрын
Broughy, you know, to my mind you are the best KZitemr that I've ever seen. Firstly, it doesn't seems like you're doing this for money - as you mentioned, you don't even get the minimal wage for uploading these videos. Secondly, you share your knowledge with us, which is really helpful. You not only have the video materials, but you also know how to systematize all that information. Your racing school is very helpful for anyone who would like to improve their driving abilities. And you always explain the facts you've found out. What's more, your work isn't done here - you've created that beautiful spreadsheet, even though you obviously don't get any paid views for that. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for uploading such useful and informative videos! Oh! Almost forgot - in spite of having more than 60 000 subscribers, you still manage to answer on some questions in the comment. We really appreciate all your work!
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Well thank you man I really appreciate that and your kind words :) Makes it all worthwhile
@CaptainOguretz
8 жыл бұрын
:D
@ISeeUTrolllin
8 жыл бұрын
I love how you put actual thought and work into finding things out like this. It kinda sucks how many people are oblivious to the real speeds of cars and stuff. Good job man
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Cheers! :)
@deytims
8 жыл бұрын
1:05 "This is by the way the how youre supposed to take this corner." gosh that stream(was it, nor? xD) was awesome
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah that was from the same legendary stream XD
@deytims
8 жыл бұрын
was that new years eve or around christmas? cant remember, or am i completely wrong?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
padfoot LP New years day
@deytims
8 жыл бұрын
***** feels so long ago...strange xD
@deytims
8 жыл бұрын
Guille Viper oh i´m sorry, you could post it by your own and ill like it! and comment that i had the same idea? promised! :D
@gregoryatkin1509
8 жыл бұрын
Some of the 'Off Road Grip' factors I honestly think should be increased. It doesn't seem fair that supercars are the dominant factors off-road, as necessary as it is, it should be quicker to keep them on the road. I'd want most of the Supercars to have a value of maybe 1.5, and same for a lot of the sports class. I'd definetely want a high value for the Race Bicycles as it's several levels of bullshit they're faster than the Scorcher off-road. But thanks for the video, opened my eyes to a few things.
@Wolfiebigtail
8 жыл бұрын
fact finding vids are always good good job bruffy
@Kidzspeed
7 жыл бұрын
1:04 sick wallride brough!
@ithrangroenen1787
8 жыл бұрын
WOW! i have offroad tires on my kuruma and always jokingly tell my freind that makes it better than his [insert car here] for offroading. turns out, im right for the wrong reasons!
@AlessandroAntonetti-v2r
8 жыл бұрын
1:05 Nailed it ;-) Btw, Broughy, is racing in rain condition exactly the same as normal sunny condition or it's affected by some values in the game as we see in off-road?
@MrGolferguy22
8 жыл бұрын
Why in the word do the Dubsta 6x6 and the Sandkings have 0.8 values??? That's craziness.
@australovenatortomino_1741
7 жыл бұрын
Grant Gilmore they will still remain one of the best offroad vehicles because of their suspention and ground clearence
@andregoncalves5200
6 жыл бұрын
I was asking the same thing
@deleted3657
8 жыл бұрын
Amazing on the effort you put into all of this! Keep it up Brough!
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll do my best :)
@TrowaPX
8 жыл бұрын
The Baller's dominance offroad is severely understated. The Huntley will get demolished offroad to the point its not worth testing because the Baller is vastly better. Might aswell walk if you are going to use Huntley VS Ballers offroad.
@sennecartoos622
8 жыл бұрын
mad spread sheet gamplay!! oh and the kuruma bits to:) ;)
@alfblack2
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you thankyou for making this video. Answers my questions before I asked. :)
@MrSteakPotato
8 жыл бұрын
YES! I've wanted to know this stuff since the original fastest cars (stock)
@dangregory2217
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Broughy! been looking forward to this one!
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome :)
@LoganFerguson
8 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Always love off-road related stuff! :) I bet the Jester was supposed to be 0.4, considering it's an AWD car. Also, I'm still banned from the forums. Dunno why, considering the last time I posted was about my newborn baby.
@Klemhaken
8 жыл бұрын
I love snow rally racing and gta fact finding AWESOME
@ReiCaixa
8 жыл бұрын
On and by the way, I never stay on road, I like to think that its not there, and at all, I loved this video
@almostlastplace
8 жыл бұрын
Can you do a fact finding about how rain affects the cars' traction? I think it'd be interesting to see if there are actual stats to back up the 9F's dominance in the rain for instance.
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
I'll look into it.
@darkknight9991
8 жыл бұрын
I always refused to believe that the Kurama was better then Sultan for Rally races, guess I was wrong lol
@darkknight9991
8 жыл бұрын
+Neeko B I also like how the Sultan flys off of corners, its acceleration is top notch.
@ishxnnn
8 жыл бұрын
+Neeko B If you don't like the rollovers but you want to go as quick as the Kuruma, try the Massacro RC ;)
@Saize420
8 жыл бұрын
I always did too, until I tested it on my own
@baldo19724
8 жыл бұрын
Broughy, on what system/s is this track available? This looks amazing! Great info.
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
PS4 only I'm afraid. Here's the link anyway: socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/ps4/jobs/job/dja_-B98ek-RKlNbRwL9Iw
@baldo19724
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you.
@A2DaJGaming
8 жыл бұрын
You had me at spreadsheet buddy. . .wondering if I was "some of you guys that like that". . .your talking to the guy that had a statistician put together a pivot table of $/minute and maximizing $/minute for missions. . .I now realize I should have never posted my math nerdiness . . .oh well post!
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Wheeler :D
@richardidle1289
8 жыл бұрын
Interesting, cheers Broughy.
@l_quinn_l
8 жыл бұрын
Cool to see this series back! I don't think you need to test the vehicles on a off road track either. This does the job well! I wish super cars were hurt more off-road. Like if their traction just went to garbage off-road or something. I want "off-road" vehicles to be the fastest vehicles in off-road racing. Maybe hurt some of the sports cars as well but also maybe have some sports/coupes/compacts improve on an off-road track and have them be almost like rally cars. I just want a rally car class really haha
@josemartin3630
3 жыл бұрын
Your wish kinda become true with Sports cars: -Kuruma -Omnis -Tropos Rallye -GB200 -Flash GT -Issi Sport -Sentinel classic -Comet Safari -Sultan classic There is enough rally cars now to make a rally race with car variaety
@TheDominator
8 жыл бұрын
hello broughy _turns around in tall swirly chair_ i've been expecting you
@ReiCaixa
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I already said lots of times Kuruma was good for Off-Road, he is probably the best car in the game, he is an awesome off-road car, awesome at drifting, he have a good top-speed, he is armored, he can jump walls if you crash the spoiler on the wall, so you cant get stuck in a house with a Kuruma and you can use his spoiler to hit people's head, he is the best car at all
@DJSinocan911
8 жыл бұрын
Heres some facts i found out myself: 1. 9F Cabrio has no engine (front/rear). 2. The left tires of all cars is pointing the wrong way, can easily be seen by tall cars. 3. Some cars have switched names with spoilers (Rapid GT + Rapid Gt convertable). Theres cars with switched names with exhaust too, but forgot witch one. 4. Elegy RH8 is not OP, it has not High top speed and shitty brakes, like really shitty brakes. 5. The slow family car "Stratum" has a Titanium tuner exhaust as stock.... Becouse R32 GTR 6. Broughy's real name is Don, not Adam #JustHatin'
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
You're wrong on 4. Elegy is OP. The rest I'm willing to accept. Except perhaps 6 ;p
@DJSinocan911
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 Nah fam, you admitit several times your name when you rage xD youre Don, you SO Don
@ElLen.Fazzueli
8 жыл бұрын
all facts I found myself: 1. none
@deth1634
8 жыл бұрын
A true fact i found myself: Someone raging in races because of his shit skills.
@deth1634
8 жыл бұрын
And doesnt have eyes to see that the 9f has a rear placed motor.
@gabrielsnow6509
8 жыл бұрын
Wanna know how mrbossftw would do it? Hey guys were checking the tracktion off-road with cars, begins to drive on mount chilliad. Now all the super cars have great traction because its awd, and its fast
@sakkelipsanen2460
8 жыл бұрын
u said it
@trustypatches669
8 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most important part "Subscribe, share, like, comment, follow my Facebook, Tumblr, instagram and ... profiles and ....
@gabrielsnow6509
8 жыл бұрын
Alireza M oh yeah, that's the most importent part. (from iceland so im not that good at english sorry)
@Hellfire36
8 жыл бұрын
Well...that explains why my Jester does not work well offroad.
@Trunks7890
8 жыл бұрын
i was wondering if this traction loss stat is what affects vehicle performance in rain/snow or is it some other stat on the spreadsheet? its generally agreed upon that the 9F is excellent in rain and snow sports car races but the traction loss is a 1 for it. i also wasn't aware of many of these vehicles were so good off road. i'll need to take my baller LE for a drive around lucky jim's for sure! thanks for all your hard work!
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
I believe rain and snow is somewhat different. More investigation is needed :)
@stevenwalls8482
8 жыл бұрын
So when it snows in GTA online do all the surfaces change to "offroad" or does snow have a separate line of code meaning that the effect snow has would stack with that of a normal offroad surface?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
I believe rain and snow are separate in that respect.
@fig00r11
8 жыл бұрын
If there were a way to get snow back in GTA Online, it would be interesting to see how the off-road cars would behave on your track when it's covered in snow, and compare the times to your regular testing. Maybe the Bifta or even the Brawler would beat the Sanchez? I'm almost ceirtain the Kuruma would, at least.
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure this traction loss stat has anything to do with performance in rain/snow. More investigation is needed.
@MrMirofl
8 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks! :-)
@seanifferson5534
8 жыл бұрын
Weird that the Technical has a lower off-road multiplier than the Rebel, I'd have thought they'd be the same
@Vedran563
8 жыл бұрын
+seanifferson weight of the turret maybe?
@sbcavo4332
6 жыл бұрын
1:03 What a way to take a corner lol
@Anthonytch
8 жыл бұрын
I remember when tony join during this race ;-;
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
:)
@rhysthomas5811
8 жыл бұрын
I Find that the Baller to be top heavy when racing off road. You can turn a huntly sharper into a corner and carry more speed through it. With a baller it is far easier to tip it over
@philp2489
8 жыл бұрын
Karuma FTW!
@roguereaver634
8 жыл бұрын
Spreadsheet hype
@d3Rm0Nk
8 жыл бұрын
Really surprised by the Sultan. It always felt quite good offroad...
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
It isn't bad off road by any means, but there are much better.
@Mecks089
8 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I kinda see now, it's doesn't explain how I out drove a Sanchez going up hill in a Sandking SWB, but whatever, physics is physics.
@ishxnnn
8 жыл бұрын
9:45 Broughy are you sure most of the sports cars have a value of 1? I have noticed the Massacro RC leaves Elegies in the dust off road and can even rival Kurumas.
@quincygang
8 жыл бұрын
+Ishan826 Don't know if it makes alot of sense but i have a feeling that it's a combination of the ridiculous engine power the massacro has and its weight not causing it to bounce around on the bumpy offroad as much as a Jester for example wich is a really light car and quite hard to control offroad.
@deth1634
8 жыл бұрын
+Quincy Spijker Im sure R* nerfed the Jester and made Op the Massacro.because the massacro was slow af for me.
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
As I said there are plenty of other variables but as mentioned above engine power has something to do with it. Traction loss will be a percentage of the total traction, basically bringing the elegy closer to the massacro in that respect (massacro starts with lower traction so technically loses less). The elegy gains all it's time from traction around the corners and is left for dust in terms of straight line speed by massacros even on road. Translate that to the lower grip dirt and the massacro certainly fares well with it's high engine power. The elegy is still up there though depending on the track because of AWD. It all depends on the track layout frankly.
@ishxnnn
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 Very interesting. I'll still be using my Massacro RC for rally races, since the Kuruma is a Felon on steroids :P
@KnoxR
8 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about this recently, posted it in another video a while back, but i still wonder if the suspension really effects anything in a noticeable way. It wouldn't change grip or slowdown and stuff, but would change how your car can get across rough or bouncy dirt. I'd figure that the longer straight near the airfield Trevor takes over, near the train tracks would be a good place to test. Have you put any thought into that?
@KnoxR
8 жыл бұрын
+Prowler Caboose I also only had time to look though half the video, so sorry if you got to that point, i had to rush off to talk to someone about a job and didn't have a chance to watch all of it quite yet.
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Suspension is something I hope to cover in the future.
@KnoxR
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 awesome I'll happily await that video.
@Cyb0rgLP
8 жыл бұрын
What about grip loss when it rains/snows
@deth1634
8 жыл бұрын
Then rip the grip
@xL1PEx
8 жыл бұрын
+Der Boss (Killuminati) Now I'm wondering that as well.
@vxwk
8 жыл бұрын
A fun little fact about the rain on GTA is that it actually increased top speed because there is less friction.
@deth1634
8 жыл бұрын
vxwk Yep,much more speed with bikes.
@rouzbeakhlaghi3038
8 жыл бұрын
What race is this? And is it available on PC? Looks so damn cool!
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
It isn't available on PC unfortunately, just PS4
@t-bone4445
7 жыл бұрын
Broughy, does the off road traction loss apply to rain and snow too? or is that an entirely different modifier?
@broughy1322
7 жыл бұрын
It doesn't.
@Guthrak
8 жыл бұрын
Do off-road tires change this stat, because it would be quite a difference since some of the cars come with offroads stock.
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
No they don't.
@gameslayer-zt6sy
8 жыл бұрын
Brought is it possible you can do a car show with subscribers?
@hfg369
8 жыл бұрын
i'm sort of puzzled why you didn't touch on the AWD aspect of things. i always thought it had an impact on off road performance.
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
In so far as AWD being dominant in the game in general yes, but there's nothing really special about it when taken off road. The massacro for example is a very quick car off road and is RWD
@Arsene_Lupin_the_3rd
8 жыл бұрын
What is faster? Hakuchou off-road on wheelie or Hakuchou on proper road leaning forward?
@hamzaniaz8574
8 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
@topiviitala4600
8 жыл бұрын
Can you do more showdowns and rallycross videos?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
I'll try my best :)
@topiviitala4600
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 nice to hear that :)
@Himerosteam
6 жыл бұрын
But do you need off road wheels on the kuruma? or any wheels and it will still have good grip?
@GreenTheGrape
8 жыл бұрын
In the new update, did Grand Theft Auto skimp off the traction control ? I only assume this because all of the cars seem to have a big decrease in traction
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Haven't noticed any difference.
@dizzieraptor3455
8 жыл бұрын
Do q and a plz
@AnnihilatorCZ
8 жыл бұрын
But what about the speed? I remember back on last gen, BV5, the track was Sunabozu. I had to get a Massacro just because of that track, simply because it was so dominant on the sand section. It was losing a lot less speed there than the Elegy. So what's up with that?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Speed is reduced and I believe it's caused by the same factor, but the massacro has a much higher engine power so overcome it. Therefore when traction is equalised somewhat the massacro in some situations becomes the better option.
@oleg_aka_djmeg
8 жыл бұрын
2:30 "this is the code" i believe that the code is located in GTA5.exe and everything else is game resources.
@ScourgeOTG
8 жыл бұрын
+oleg_aka_djmeg You'd be right if it wasn't for the .exe pulling data from handling.meta, which you can edit with notepad after extracting from common.rpf
@KK-qx1je
8 жыл бұрын
What is this track, I've seen you race it several times and I'm sure you mentioned the name but I can't recall what it is and I'd like to play it.
What about rain? They say the 9F is best on wet tracks but it has a traction loss factor of 1 (like most of the other sports), so which code determines the grip in the rain?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
That's something to be explored further in the future.
@TROllingNINJA2031
8 жыл бұрын
in races with the slipstream on, what happens to a car's stats? does it magically increase engine power, top speed etc or does it actually reduce drag like in the real world racing? i slipstreamed in a Adder and getting a good feel of its top speed id know when its reached but flying past another Adder at top speed? on some highway races i shake and bake with some randos to the end note these races only had slipstream on and catchup off
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
I believe it decreases drag
@TROllingNINJA2031
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 do you think there's a way to measure the highest top speed possible on land? like have a car start in last and have one long line cars ahead giving a slipstream. then move up car to car while trying to calculate the speed. I've tried before and failed miserably
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
TROllingNINJA2031 Maybe. I'll see what I can do about it
@TROllingNINJA2031
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 I don't know m8 the amount of organization needed drove me nuts. it's like trying to orchestrate a flight of jets
@vxwk
8 жыл бұрын
+TROllingNINJA2031 I think if we're in last by a far enough distance you just get given constant slipstream anyway.
@coltallic3114
8 жыл бұрын
Wait so judging by this video, the Slamvan Custom is the best Muscle car off-road, right?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Wesrl
8 жыл бұрын
2:06 how is the hydra faster then the lazer if the hydra is 50 years older and without circuitry as they said in the heist.
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Because you shouldn't believe everything you hear or read in game.
@blackdragondlb
8 жыл бұрын
Why does the Massacro and Massacro Racecar say 1 for offroad traction loss? When testing, it clearly keeps more of its original speed than the other sports cars, except for the Kuruma.
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
It has a lot of engine power so the speed loss appears to not be as much, but it still loses the same speed as others. Massacro is quicker than most on tarmac so it's going to be the same off road too
@blackdragondlb
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 I did some further testing myself. I was basing it off of what a friend told me, and he has become a prime example of what you said in your "Should you buy the 811?" video. He couldn't use the traction potential of the 2 cars. Plus I found it easy to get tricked. the Massacra feels like it is on rails with how smooth it is over bumps, especially with off-road tires, but it doesn't actually have much traction offroad.
@nathanhenderson-walls5058
4 жыл бұрын
would the elegy retro custom be a good rally car?
@Sanderst125
8 жыл бұрын
Zearxys stream was great
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah it was pretty funny XD
@Sanderst125
8 жыл бұрын
***** it was fun for everyone
@MrToast107
8 жыл бұрын
Can you determine what goes into armor values?
@fravolt2
8 жыл бұрын
The value for all coupes is the same, 1, does that mean that for example top speed for all could decrease 1 mph? or is it like a percentage?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
It's a percentage, so 1 equates to some level of speed loss, and 0.5 equates to half as much as that.
@fravolt2
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 ah thanks! really informative video by the way, keep it up ;)
@ThoDumbo
8 жыл бұрын
Does snow have the same grip loss as the other off-road surfaces?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Unsure. Hard to really do any testing on that.
@beillyzhu9932
7 жыл бұрын
it doesn't feel like the kuruma has no effect on any surfaces
@Lukas19360
8 жыл бұрын
Can I get a summary or something...? My attention span isn't long enough for this.
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Nope :p
@levi_user_name
8 жыл бұрын
Brawler vs Sanchez off-road, who would win?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
On a circuit the sanchez. If it's a long straight section probably the brawler
@BDT17
8 жыл бұрын
It's obvious that the Sanchez would still do the best Off-Road, mainly because it's a bike.
@deth1634
8 жыл бұрын
Ya know,the Brawlers here too but it haves made in china brakes
@tobiemufukinmuffin5514
8 жыл бұрын
Can somebody link me the race he was doing in this video?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/ps4/jobs/job/dja_-B98ek-RKlNbRwL9Iw PS4 only though
@Mantastic84
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 Not true mate, it was transfered to PC: rsg.ms/fad4704 :)
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Mantastic84 Niiiiiice!
@a.elgevasslien8178
8 жыл бұрын
I got banned last night for one week because idiots kept reporting me for "modding." Reason? They where all using jesters and massacros on a dirt track while i used the karuma. Needless to say I won easily. Kind of wish all of them had seen this video :/
@5usp3c7
8 жыл бұрын
Why were there other people in the spread sheet. It's not that interesting, is it?
@sitasin6545
8 жыл бұрын
Does rain count as off road or is rain something else?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Rain is something else entirely I believe.
@Megamaluco
8 жыл бұрын
Does the off-road tires affect the "off-road grip loss"?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Nope
@deth1634
8 жыл бұрын
But it ignores the borders like if there wasnt any.
@Megamaluco
8 жыл бұрын
Jason Voorhees Including the stock off-tire? That's the only one who looks cool but im not sure if that one works as well
@deth1634
8 жыл бұрын
Megamaluco Only the Offroad Tire has this special ability.
@matthewblainey4254
8 жыл бұрын
what about weather?
@DaProhpetGaming
8 жыл бұрын
Jester vs Masscaro Please Help
@dasdoin9600
8 жыл бұрын
is there an impact of awd or rwd?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Not really. Just depends on the circuit. If it's tight and technical awd will still be king.
@사파이어-m5l
8 жыл бұрын
Does offroad tyre helps racing on the offroad?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
For most cars no
@사파이어-m5l
8 жыл бұрын
Which cars get help? Can I find them in the sheet?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
soda DK Yep, handling data (basic) sheet, tyres can clip column
@사파이어-m5l
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 I mean offroad speed loss. Just on offroad. Most of cars get speed loss on offroad. My question is 'offroad tire' reduce speed loss on 'offroad' ?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
soda DK No off road tyres have no impact on that.
@LucarioNumbers
8 жыл бұрын
I hate self promoters do nothing if u agree or disagree
@dsxz
8 жыл бұрын
why gimp the jester so badly?
@hamzaniaz8574
8 жыл бұрын
on what do you play??
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
Everything
@hamzaniaz8574
8 жыл бұрын
do you do open lobby's?
@barnatoth4594
8 жыл бұрын
+Hamza Niaz when he streams GTA yes
@Slime_threezus
8 жыл бұрын
Broughy gang in this bitch!!!!!
@LordAugastus
8 жыл бұрын
Its so freaking funny, in GTA 5, an OSIRIS or BUGHATTI (WHatever the ingame version is), is better t off road than an 4x4 off road truck. lol
@mylescalderazzo3864
8 жыл бұрын
What happens in the rain?
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
That requires some more investigation
@potatosfortots9909
8 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't care what the stats say, I'm still sticking with my sultan, flipping into space is not for me.
@n1tr0t0m_
8 жыл бұрын
wow new fuck finding :o
@mecca6801
8 жыл бұрын
the jester is shit off-road because it sits too low
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
No, it's shit because of the off road traction loss value being so high. As explained. Has nothing to do with how low to the ground it is.
@mecca6801
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 you'd think because it's AWD, it would kick ass off road...NOPE, sold it after losing many dirt rally races 😭
@mecca6801
8 жыл бұрын
+Broughy1322 I meant to type it as a question about the "lowered stance of the Jester"
@Tonyhotrod69
8 жыл бұрын
The Bifta is utter ass off-road on bumpy terrain. Bottoms out & spins all the time.
@sennecartoos622
8 жыл бұрын
100 likes 0 dislikes it says enough; )
@ericsbuds
8 жыл бұрын
coop = coupe
@WJTW395
8 жыл бұрын
Jester 1.4???? Thats terrible haha
@i_timmy_l8732
8 жыл бұрын
first
@Lewtard
8 жыл бұрын
2 minute + add. Not skipping it. 4 u m8
@broughy1322
8 жыл бұрын
@distastefulvideos
8 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the spreadsheet/URL that shows the offroad grip loss? Very informative. Thanks!
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