This is his channel! It's an on screen link at the end of the video but for some reason it seems like people either have those turned off or aren't seeing it. kzitem.info/rock/5iQbzytP3DN5eZhKiUVNsg
@erythrosnoia2919
Ай бұрын
Thank you! this video was amazing
@jackielinde7568
Ай бұрын
I agree with the analysis, but I would have framed it a little more polite. It's a good question for thought experiments, so no need to be rude. I would have started off defining the parameters and definitions first and then go into every kink in the question. Also, another consideration that your engineer friend missed is that the explosion that would have ejected our poor dino friend into orbit would have destroyed our dino friend long before air resistance got to do its job. Anything that would have been ejected would no longer be recognizable as dino bone and/or tissue.
@patrickmumford1194
Ай бұрын
As an engineer myself, 100% loved this and would like more content similar. TBH all the stuff that makes it on your channel is quality.
@sheakennedy-ordway1156
Ай бұрын
Suck it "Peasant Rail Gun"!
@starryeye6511
Ай бұрын
It was honestly a damn good question for engineers to contemplate
@thomasrogers8239
Ай бұрын
"did scientists-" No. They didn't.
@twicedeadmage
Ай бұрын
"Did scientists find the cure for cancer?" Nope, everytime.
@Tathanic
Ай бұрын
did wizards though?
@ymmijx6061
Ай бұрын
@@twicedeadmage i mean scientists have found very effective treatments for MOST cancers.
@mercaius
Ай бұрын
Name me one time, ONE TIME, that scientists have done anything in the history of the universe. You can't. It's impossible!
@twicedeadmage
Ай бұрын
@@mercaius Nukes were pretty nifty
@ornu01
Ай бұрын
Don't blame the engineers, if they stop calculating their brains will overheat and catch fire.
@draconis307
Ай бұрын
Engineers brains overheat when not calculating at a rate inversely proportional to the rate at which non-engineer brains overheat when they -do- calculate.
@Handles_AreStupid
Ай бұрын
@@draconis307 The exact value can be simplified to 66,673.4*15, which can then be plugged into 8 bit binary with the last missing digit being substitued for a zero.
@cj6498
Ай бұрын
@@Handles_AreStupid I'd tell you two to stop, but... you know.
@TheDoc_K
Ай бұрын
@@cj6498 don't want them overheating.
@afrophoenix3111
Ай бұрын
It's true. If I don't calculate the square root of ten-figure numbers by hand every morning, how do I even know I'm alive?
@delcox8165
Ай бұрын
That last "no". Mathematically perfect comedy.
@TurtleTreehouse
Ай бұрын
Paleontology professional here. Excellent stuff! The physics aspects were enlightening, some new stuff there for me. A correction on that last part for your engineer friend--dinosaur bone fossils are almost always still dinosaur bones. Contrary to popular belief, the permineralization process does not replace the entire bone with rock. It only fills the vacant spaces of the bone, the parts that are empty after fluids have dried/drained and most of the soft parts have rotted out. Our bones are full of holes, they are like sponges made of calcium phosphate and collagen. During life that mineral sponge is filled with lots of blood and soft tissues. In death, if a bone is lucky enough to fossilize, most of those things have drained or decomposed away before the bone is preserved through permineralization. Water draining through the bone sponge, laden with its own minerals, deposits crystals on the remaining latticework of bone. Over time, as more water drains through the soil and picks up its minerals, these minerals are redeposited inside the bone sponge until all of its holes are completely filled with crystal (mostly quartz). It's the exact same process that forms geodes and agates--or, less romantically, the crust on your showerhead that gets deposited over time by hard (mineral heavy) water. Either way, the soft parts of the bone decompose, leaving hard parts and empty space. Over time, hard minerals grow to fill in that empty space. It's as if you soaked a dish sponge in cement, and then let the cement dry. The sponge is full of cement, sure. But it's still a sponge. All that to say, when that Maiasaura bone went to space, it was still a dinosaur bone. Just a bone whose empty spaces had been filled with crystal growth. The bone's calcium phosphate and any remaining collagen were still original--the same ones that were in the animal while it lived. So yes, in that ONE category of situation, dinosaur bones have been in space. But the other stuff--fantastic! Thank you for teaching me some cool things about physics. I hope it's not too obnoxious that I return the favor with a cool thing about dinosaurs.
@Connorisreal
Ай бұрын
The answer I didn’t know I was looking for! Follow up thought… are there currently any birds in space? Like on the ISS? Because birds TEND to have bones, and you can’t exactly evolve out of a clade.
@TurtleTreehouse
Ай бұрын
@@Connorisreal That's a good question--to which I don't know the answer lol 🤷♀️ But it would be interesting to find out!
@zobblewobble1770
Ай бұрын
@@ConnorisrealAs far as I’ve researched (NASA had a page on all the animals in space) there haven’t been any birds in space, (though there have been some zero g experiments with them on airplanes).
@abbilocke736
20 күн бұрын
Thank you, this was a really interesting read!
@timmiller1
19 күн бұрын
Concrete worker/sponge manufacturer here! Excellent comment, but I must say there was a small inaccuracy. Your cement filled sponge analogy was a little misleading as there are several factors which would prevent one from filling a sponge with cement. Just kidding. I wanted to be smart too. I was going to go on for a while, but decided it’s not worth it.
@OscarGonzalez-yd7mf
Ай бұрын
Ahh yes the perfectly cubic, 0 deegrees celsius and with no air resistance -Rex. The engineer favourite dinosaur
@KAZExNOxSAGA
Ай бұрын
The Engineerex
@justineberlein5916
Ай бұрын
Meanwhile, the physicists' favorite dinosaur is the point-mass-asaurus
@nuyabuisness7526
Ай бұрын
I literally just finished thermodynamics and fluid mechanics. You'd be surprised how often an object just gets estimated as a sphere or cube for drag calculations.
@AmberMetallicScorpion
Ай бұрын
don't forget they need to assume air resistance is negligible
@Pinkstarclan
Ай бұрын
I love spherical cow-esque answers
@Crazor2000
Ай бұрын
Realistic answer: "no" ttrpg answer: "You can certainly try"
@kyleepratt
Ай бұрын
You need a mat 20 for that, then I'll let you roll a percentile die. 95 or higher you get it. I got a 97 .............fine............Space dinosaurs exist, and you did meet one.
@Mordecrox
Ай бұрын
"Ok what I roll for?" "For how hard you fail"
@Hillwisekid
Ай бұрын
Nat 20! For a score of?
@s0ph053
Ай бұрын
“Bare in mind, anything can be attempted”
@RaethFennec
Ай бұрын
Warframe is a Tencent game.
@OpenBiolabsGuy
Ай бұрын
I wasn’t expecting Science education on this channel. But here we are, and I’m entertained. I love the way he shuts down stupid click bait questions with an abrupt “NO!”
@buffewo6386
Ай бұрын
This is why my GMs have learned that seemingly innocent questions like "Is it an oil or alcohol based perfume? " or "Is the chicken frozen & will it fit in the pipe?" are just subtle signals that his carefully planned scenario is about to go off the rails. The suspicious "Why?" I get as a reflexive response gives me that warm-fuzzy feeling, evwn if I'm just trying to get a wall color to distinguish areas for a mental map. My groups also have learned to fear my power! Puns, Dad Jokes, & the latest insights from my 7 y/o can be just too much for their young twenties to thirties brains... Btw. Pro GM tip: when a player asks what is on the shelves in the high school chem lab in your game (modern setting); the answer is NOT an inventory. It is "What are you looking to do? Why? Exactly how?" Unless you want to find out who understands basic chemistry, stayed awake in class, remembers it & and had a really fun teacher. (Also, Iron-Aluminum is not the only reaction called thermite. CO2 is heavier than air. And actually reading the warnings on Material Data Sheets is both educational & terrifying. )
@lordfelidae4505
Ай бұрын
Ah yes, become the reason your table bans something. I got explosives banned because I used them to one shot a BBEG. Backpack full of grenades + fireball = Ash.
@stephenspackman5573
Ай бұрын
If a player ever asks you to explain what exactly happens to the light hitting an illusory mirror…. I had _so_ much fun that session. Especially because a little while later the GM asked my opponent _how_ invisible he wanted to be, and he replied “very invisible. Like 95%.”
@user-rr2jx5tg3r
Ай бұрын
That is... the single worst thing I have ever heard, and my gratitude is immeasurable. Thank you, I owe you my life.
@MrWrathkun
28 күн бұрын
I cant imagine getting constantly um actuallyed in a made up game is very fun
@stephenspackman5573
28 күн бұрын
@@MrWrathkun Ah, but getting yes anded is awesome.
@koreamify
Ай бұрын
Hey now, the Earth is in Space! Therefore all dinosaur bones are in space!
@craigh5236
Ай бұрын
Were in space. There are no bones right now
@segevstormlord3713
Ай бұрын
This is the objectively optimal answer.
@Cephalon_Dante9826
Ай бұрын
"What is space?"
@bananabanana484
Ай бұрын
@@craigh5236 Actually, there have been examples of non-fossilized, with some rare cases even potentially having soft tissue! So, depending on your definition, there are still Dino bones in space!
@koreamify
Ай бұрын
@craigh5246 all time that was is and ever will be is always everywhere! 😉
@TheSeventhChild
Ай бұрын
This feels like the kind of conversation that comes up when the Wizard in your Spelljammer campaign just learned Polymorph.
@Raghetiel
Ай бұрын
More like, during week long trip through Flogiston, where there's nothing to do
@godofthunder4242
Ай бұрын
Clearly the Wizard has the power to make the answer, "There WERE no dinosaur bones in space."
@Ivel1oss
Ай бұрын
"are their dinosaur bones in space? No. Lets change that"
@psymar
Ай бұрын
@@Raghetielis this named for the debunked scientific concept of phlogiston
@projectarduino2295
Ай бұрын
Engineer here: According to “ Trajectories and distribution of material ejected from the Chicxulub impact crater: Implications for postimpact wildfires” around 12% of the mass thrown by the impact had escape velocities. That is *a lot* of mass. It was primarily crust of the earth. You know what is in the crust of the earth during the age of dinosaurs? Dinosaur bones. While most of the crust ejected turned molten, some of it may not, and large chunks of rock could have contained dinosaur bones. The velocities may have oblated the rock and not the bone, thus preserving the bone at escape velocities. So, yes, it is theoretically possible in a large chunk of earth that during the Chixulub impact dinosaur bones were jettisoned into space.
@truints
Ай бұрын
I was thinking about bones contained in the earth making it to space. Using ice as an example when it's more logical to use earth as an example put me off the explanation. Seems like bias to me.
@zobblewobble1770
Ай бұрын
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Considering how much people like to throw the “panspermia” theory around for the origin of life on Earth, I didn’t think it seemed that unreasonable to have a few small fragments of dinosaur bones that were buried in the earths crust be in the right size chunk of rock to survive ejection and still make it to space. I doubt they were complete bones, but maybe a couple cm of material might be in an asteroid somewhere.
@thewingedporpoise
Ай бұрын
I will be completely honest I highly doubt that any of that crust made it to space at any reasonable temperature. Given that the impact if I recall correctly vaporized stone. I feel like you'd actually have to show your work that something could remotely survive after being hit by the meteor and then ejected into space. There are glass spherules littered along the boundary layer, the explanation for them is superheated rock that was ejected falling back to earth and cooling before impact, like hail.
@insanegeek
Ай бұрын
@@thewingedporpoise More a thought exercise the mathematical proof... the entire earth was not vaporized, so obviously there was a change point where the energy exerted went from vaporization to moving rocks. That point a millionth less of a joule under vaporization level still had an insane amount of energy dumped into moving a mass of material.
@aboyokayak
29 күн бұрын
@thewingedporpoise Mars meteorites are a real thing that apparently survived the initial ejection from Mars and the atmosphere and impact on Earth. No idea how big of a hit Mars took for any of them but it does confirm that meteorites can knock pieces off some planets at escape velocity.
@Whitewing89
Ай бұрын
Birds are dinosaurs, and birds have been taken to space. Living birds have bones, ergo, dinosaur bones in space.
@andrewchapman2039
Ай бұрын
This is like XKCD's What If from a parallel universe where Randall doesn't care if he makes you feel bad.
@richtigmann1
Ай бұрын
Yeah that's exactly what it felt like
@Brent-jj6qi
Ай бұрын
Submissive vs dominant XKCD
@jackielinde7568
Ай бұрын
I sent XKCD this question asking for their take and provided this video. I'd like to see how they would handle it.
@steveaustin2686
Ай бұрын
@@jackielinde7568 Probably with a LOT MOAR math. More is MOAR in space, cause KSP. :)
@dryued6874
Ай бұрын
Randall _doesn't_ care if he makes you feel bad. He just usually makes you feel good afterwards.
@FeignJurai
Ай бұрын
"Any time a headline is a question, the answer is no." This is called Bettridges Law, named in 2009, it hasn't been shown to be wrong since.
@thundersheild926
Ай бұрын
What if the headline is "Is Betteidges Law true?"
@Aaa-vp6ug
Ай бұрын
@@thundersheild926paradox
@GravSh4rk
Ай бұрын
@@thundersheild926No
@TheGerkuman
Ай бұрын
@@thundersheild926the editor wouldn't let it through, because if it was true, it would be an admission that they and others had intentionally acted falsely and thus open them up to litigation.
@Agnes.Nutter
Ай бұрын
It absolutely has been shown to be wrong wtf? Multiple studies have looked at it and found that it’s close to half and half, and if anything, leans toward “yes”
@frederickambaritaa8057
Ай бұрын
This reminds me of Randal Monroe's "What if" books which tries takes stupid questions and answers them scientifically. In fact, the first book also includes a section about launching things into orbit and is where I first learned about the 8 km/s thing. It's a really interesting read if you're into that kind of stuff.
@DTDdeathmas
Ай бұрын
So technically, birds are dinosaurs and birds have been sent to space. Thus, dinosaurs have been to space.
@simonnading
Ай бұрын
Tobo, thank you, not just for the in depth answer, but for all the lovely portmanteaus like "dinojectile"
@artistpoet5253
Ай бұрын
add a -dysfunction.
@TheDoc_K
Ай бұрын
@@artistpoet5253 dinojectile dysfunction.
@ivaldi13
Ай бұрын
@@TheDoc_KNew band name acquired.
@Kryptnyt
Ай бұрын
I adore the evil look on the face of the Astronaut as if he's doing something naughty by bringing a fossil into space
@HaloInverse
Ай бұрын
...is he _not?_
@MrDj232
Ай бұрын
@@HaloInverse There's pretty severe weight limits. Either he smuggled it on board, or he sacrificed bringing something else just so he could say he brought a fossil to space.
@HaloInverse
Ай бұрын
@@MrDj232 Exactly. Totally naughty. Right there, in space. Astronaughty.
@NoxiousAffection
Ай бұрын
unrelated but is your pfp ... magikarp Dan Dan? I hate that I even recognize that but it's gonna haunt me if i don't know the real answer
@Kryptnyt
Ай бұрын
@@NoxiousAffection That's it exactly
@a-bombmori7393
Ай бұрын
My immediate first thought was "Birds are classified as avian dinosaurs!". So after a few quick searches, I found that Russia has actually launched Japanese quail eggs into space multiple times in the 80s, and after several tries they eventually got one to hatch! So the answer is actually yes, dinosaur bones *have* been in space.
@Aberrant17
24 күн бұрын
No. Birds are NOT dinosaurs, but they are descendants of the so-called "bird-hipped" variety of dinosaurs.
@a-bombmori7393
24 күн бұрын
@@Aberrant17 Look up "avian dinosaur". I understand animal taxonomy is a little bit wishy washy at times, but birds being dinosaurs is a pretty cut and dry topic.
@davidec.4021
19 күн бұрын
No, birds are, technically, dinosaurs. And, technically, also reptiles but let’s not get into that
@eroseland
Ай бұрын
The problem with the reply is that it assumes math based on reentry, not a departure from the atmosphere. The air and it's molecules get thinner the higher you go up, not the converse as in the math. Does that mean I think there are dinosaur bones in space? NO!
@blarghchan
28 күн бұрын
Less of an issue than you propose, because the dinojectile will be at it's highest velocity when the air is thickest, so it's going to light up DAMN fast.
@eroseland
27 күн бұрын
@@blarghchan If only every mathematician just ball-parked their numbers as you imply.
@felixjohnson3874
17 күн бұрын
That wouldnt change anything. An object in reentry and unentry (aka exit) is passing through the entirety of the atmosphere. Reentry *_might_* be worse since gravitational acceleration plays a role, but that wouldnt meaningfully alter the aerodynamics.
@MrBioWhiz
Ай бұрын
I love the astronaut's face, like what was his sinister plan for that fossil lmao
@noneuklid
23 күн бұрын
Okay hear me out. Jurassic Park was trying to isolate the dinosaurs from the general public by putting them on an -island-.
@MarioMonte13
23 күн бұрын
@@noneuklid Jurassic Park Luna! Seems a lot more secure since it's a 3 day trip by rocket back to Earth, and surely it's a hell of a lot easier to keep things on Luna than it is to keep something on an island.
@daddymememaster5432
23 күн бұрын
@@MarioMonte13Yeah, even if something goes wrong, I don't think any T-Rexes are making it very far. Just airlock their asses.
@Sarcasmarkus
18 күн бұрын
😂 it reminds me of that south park episode where butters was pretending to be a dramatic evil super villain and his worst most sinister action was switching two people's plates of food at the restaurant before the waitress brought it out. Then they were just like oops, and switched them back.
@statelyelms
Ай бұрын
This is exactly what I want when I say said stupid questions. Not just "is there?" but also "what would need to happen FOR there?".. it's the Mythbusters way.
@KingNedya
Ай бұрын
I think the same. Years ago my mom was annoyed at my brother for asking what she considered stupid questions, and as an example she asked him "what if the moon was purple?", to show him how pointless his questions sounded. But then that got me thinking: what if the moon was purple? What would have to change to allow that? And what would change as a result? Maybe the material of the moon itself is purple, which would suggest a drastically different origin of not just the moon, but the solar system as a whole, because the very composition of the solar system would have to be different because in its current composition I'm pretty sure there's not that much purple stuff to make a moon out of. Or maybe the sun itself emits mostly purple light that the moon then reflects, which has even wilder implications because due to what wavelengths are possible in blackbody radiation, purple stars can't exist. So our sun (and by extension moon) being purple would require completely different laws of physics and that changes everything. I suspect culture, mythology, language, and perhaps economy would even change to some extent. Silver is often associated with the moon in mythology and literature, which affects language. But if it was purple, that wouldn't be the case, because silver obviously isn't purple. And this cultural difference might also change how we value certain materials. In conclusion, so-called stupid questions can result in the most interesting thought experiments.
@TlalocTemporal
Ай бұрын
@@KingNedya-- At some point un the past, before green plants took over, the ocean was probably dominated by purple algae. There may have been enough to see the dark side of the moon lightly tunged with purple, and this purple reflection may have been visible during a solar eclipse. The Moon may already have looked the slightest bit purple.
@bartz0rt928
Ай бұрын
The Mythbusters way would be to construct an orbital cannon and go looking for dead elephants whose bones they could use.
@savvivixen8490
Ай бұрын
@@KingNedya Dunno if it counts, per se, but there was a series of photos that captured moon image year-round, showing an interesting spectrum of colors we perceive of it over time. I was lowkey mesmerizing for me to look at. Then again, perhaps color relativity may have something to do with it too, but I like the photo itself alot.
@skyaero8773
Ай бұрын
@@KingNedya Funnily enough, I remember hearing that it would be more common for alien plant life to be purple than green due to it being more likely that plants would feed off infrared radiation due to its abundance, causing purple pigments.
@thomashowe1583
Ай бұрын
The quick and decisive "no" that cuts off the ethereal background music sends me every time XD
@BlazeGamma
29 күн бұрын
I just learned there's a name for this: Betteridge's Law of Headlines, and that got me right back to this video
@Zetact_
Ай бұрын
Okay, but hear me out here: alien dinosaurs.
@ymmijx6061
Ай бұрын
as in aliens that look like dinosaurs or dinosaurs that somehow got transplanted to another world and have since developed a means of getting to space?
@BertoxolusThePuzzled
Ай бұрын
Or, hear me out, dinosaur astronauts.
@vanhoras3082
Ай бұрын
No
@SirStanleytheStumbler
Ай бұрын
@@vanhoras3082 the correct response
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS
Ай бұрын
Well done, you are now a writer for the SyFy channel..
@SomeoneYouDontKnowOfficial
Ай бұрын
I know a lot of engineers and i guarantee if i asked this question to any of them their first thought wouldnt be "no" it would be "we could make sure thats true" and then theorize how they could make a contraption to get a dinosaur bone into space
@globin3477
Ай бұрын
That part is actually pretty easy. Just put a chicken on the next moon mission.
@thundersheild926
Ай бұрын
@@globin3477 If we're willing to count avian dinosaurs, we've already sent dinosaurs to space.
@NoxiousAffection
Ай бұрын
Problem: There are no dinosaurs bones in space Solution: Put one there ...New Problem: There are no dinosaur bones, just like, generally
@globin3477
Ай бұрын
@@NoxiousAffection Birb
@globin3477
Ай бұрын
@@thundersheild926 Oh, neat. In that case, the answer is yes.
@SonOfSofaman
Ай бұрын
LOL @ "dinojectile". That "the answer is no" rule of thumb reminds of Betteridge's law of headlines. Wise words.
@Nightenstaff
Ай бұрын
This was spectacular and enjoyable. Much fun was had by all! Great voice work, great delivery, great art. Also, perfect topic for a stupid lil engineer rant. Loved every second of it.
@christianlecroy980
Ай бұрын
Well obviously if there aren't any bones in space we need to put bones there
@Woodledude
Ай бұрын
This is true. If we go to space, and there are no bones there, where are we supposed to get our bones? There need to be bones already there, and if there aren't, we have a responsibility to put them there. (I am being facetious.)
@mme.veronica735
Ай бұрын
There are bones in space, they're just in the astronauts
@pedroscoponi4905
Ай бұрын
be the change you want to see in the space and whatnot
@TheGreatDayne1983
Ай бұрын
That’s how you get cosmic zombies
@samuelmeasa9283
Ай бұрын
How about fossils that might have been ejected into space sometime during the past? Like that mars rock people thought was proof of alien life.
@329link
Ай бұрын
I love when hypothetical questions get definitive answers with a thorough explanation.
@schonnj
Ай бұрын
Short answer: No. Long answer: No, with work shown.
@briandowdell358
11 күн бұрын
You guys would make an incredible comedic duo! More!
@Sparkbomber
Ай бұрын
I love the usual content on the channel. But this science informative short? Excellent too.
@bucketts6148
Ай бұрын
I hope this leads into each person getting their own handful of episodes, like larry
@Tsuusetsu
Ай бұрын
Yeah i really enjoyed this episode. The friends crew expands! Loooore!!!
@programmerdave9893
Ай бұрын
“Let’s do that Socrates shit that Zee loves.” Awesome quote 😁
@webbowser8834
Ай бұрын
This is a quote from a man who has spent a significant portion of his life being Zee's friend. I love it.
@RaulMartinez-wj2ow
Ай бұрын
This is the type of content that keeps me going. Unexpected but DAMN entertaining. Keep it up Zee!
@gam1821
Ай бұрын
Amazing video, question, answer and animation. Your quality is already a work of art routinely
@MrFlame-zk5cy
Ай бұрын
The popsicle stick on the dinosicle asking the question as well is such a cute touch
@tomshortell1046
Ай бұрын
If you look close, you can see the "No" answer in the ice for after you eat the dinocicle
@sadgeman4589
Ай бұрын
Zee Bashew channel shape-shifting into an XKCD channel. I'm so here for it
@micahwest3566
Ай бұрын
I was gonna say this is the exact kind of Question Randall Munroe would absolutely love to answer with his What If? Videos he’s been doing recently
@webbowser8834
Ай бұрын
@@micahwest3566 Fun fact: There's an entire web comic series published by the man himself called "what-if". They are effectively longer form XKCD comics with way more words on them. If that sounds even remotely appealing to you, I highly suggest checking it out.
@basilmemories
Ай бұрын
Holy crap I was LOCKED IN from the moment he started talking. Excellent breaking down of the science, excellent storytelling, subbed as soon as I saw the link to his channel.
@mariogariazzo2024
6 күн бұрын
Your animations have great comedic timing
@furiouskaiser9914
Ай бұрын
As a dino nerd i admit i had never thought of this before. Thank you for peaking my interest and then crushing my enthusiasm on thinking about it in one video 🤣 🤣
@ninjalectualx
Ай бұрын
*piquing
@furiouskaiser9914
Ай бұрын
@ninjalectualx Whoops, my bad. Leaving as is.
@humble1107
Ай бұрын
Finally we get this guys voice, the zee-nimatic universe expands
@ConceptualQuanta
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Speaking as an engineer here. So happy this exists.
@ConceptualQuanta
Ай бұрын
Been thinking about this, and there are a few edge-cases worth exploring. The answer is still probably no. Numerical inconsistencies like the choice of escape velocity are "reasonable to within a margin of error". At an escape velocity of 10Km/s, with the Karman line transition to space at 100Km above sea level, you really need to survive exposure to extreme temperature for about 10s. Most of the atmosphere is below this level, and above this, you're dealing with heat you soaked up, but that's it. First effect worth considering is the Leidenfrost effect. This goes a little closer to the ablative heat shield mention, but the idea is if the temperature differential is significant enough, the decreased thermal conductivity of the gas phase of a liquid can shield a solid from further harm. This allows someone to survive dunking a wet hand into molten lead without injury. The key is the gradient MUST be hot enough. This would not be interesting if the duration of the exposure was significantly longer than 10s, but with such a short time, it becomes interesting. Second, there is the concept of phase change material stabilization. Wrapping something in a material undergoing a phase change can lock the maximum temperature the stored material is exposed to at that of the phase change. As was noted, the sheer amount of energy involved is such that if there were a fraction of a percent of inefficiency (several percent is likely), it would be sufficient to ablate everything involved. Third, bones still count as bones if they're buried, so the container does not need to be a fleshy dinosaur to allow this to work. You could start with a dead dinosaur encapsulated in mud, sand, or tar. You could have a partially developed dinosaur inside an egg. There are combinations of materials here that lend themselves more to absorbing the heat in the form of a crust. Some options are better than others for thermal barriers, but you don't need to rely on the argument that it's flesh acting as a shield. If you have a layer of sand, you get some benefit of a silica shield, which is what actual space tiles are made of. These are not the same quality as shuttle tiles, but it's better than expecting a flash-frozen dinosaur to survive the trip. Finally, bones turn to ash over 1250 degrees F, so you have some margin if you have layers of materials absorbing, stabilizing, and re-radiating the heat as you go. If there were to be bones in space, I'd expect at a minimum you would need to effectively nest bones inside layers of material that take advantage of the sum of these effect. The likelihood of bones encased in alternating layers of thermally absorptive rock, sand, and temperature stabilizing materials probably excluding water (which likes to explode when it boils in a confined space) necessary to protect it is slim to none, but it's worth calling out the directions to dig if there's the slightest possibility of a "Yes". That said, that type of layering is not unlike where we find fossils today.
@anothisflame8266
Ай бұрын
You two should collab more often. His delivery with your animation style is hilarious.
@nuyabuisness7526
Ай бұрын
I'm an engineering student, the first sentence made my brain reboot then my next thought was "anything getting enough energy to be ejected into space is getting vaporized first."
@klasodeth
Ай бұрын
Rocket payloads usually manage to avoid that problem.
@Mordecrox
Ай бұрын
You might notice there is minor but non negligible difference between shape, size, composition and attack angle of a diplodocus carcass compared to a Saturn V
@JustAGoatwastaken
Ай бұрын
@@klasodethThat's because rocket thrust lasts for longer than a second
@jmchristoph
Ай бұрын
As mentioned in a separate comment, this is precisely incorrect. The shock wave is faster than the rate of any thermally-driven phase change. It's why meteorites (and failed spacecraft) disintegrate rather than vaporize.
@TlalocTemporal
Ай бұрын
There's a _lot_ of ejecta going to space in such an impact. Would it not be possible for all that rubble to punch a massive shockwave through the atmosphere, and some poor mangled creature to "survive" the trip to space?
@qrangejuice8225
Ай бұрын
Your engineer buddy has a great voice and delivery style
@Nevict
Ай бұрын
I need a friend like that: seriously cobsidering my stupid questions and grounding me with math.
@pyroman7196
Ай бұрын
I’m glad this wasn’t a short, most people Mark shorts as “do not show”, we would have never seen it as a short and this is gold Zee
@ChibiRuah
Ай бұрын
I love this video. Something about your friends dynamic and your framing and "ooo" after he kind of destroy it, feels really relatable. Honestly love to see more videos like this of just silly ideas.
@majormoron605
Ай бұрын
If the title of an article is a question, the answer is no. That´s a really useful rule of thumb, and definitely something more people should remember. If only to save themselves from wasting time on those kinds of articles
@Joe-zl5tb
Ай бұрын
honestly random videos like these are why you're one of the few people i subscribe to just like fun content all the time even if its like adjacent to the channel theme at best
@Fireclave
Ай бұрын
I'm loving this new "The Animated Engineer" series.
@kevinthedot
Ай бұрын
Is Zee not currently trapped in a basement dungeon animating? No.
@HellecticMojo
Ай бұрын
He does enjoy his Socrates gimmick though
@M0d4l3
Ай бұрын
I immensely love this chaotic mess more then... no wait... this immensely well worked mess is as good as your immensely well workout scripts. Yes, this is in it's own way, something awesome.
@TheShadowwalker007
Ай бұрын
Yay! Fun. Good job. (I’m really really sad this week, really sad, your video has done really important work this week. Thank you 🙏)
@psychronia
Ай бұрын
I like how the argument to kill this idea isn't anything about the mechanics of sending a dinosaur into space, but rather the fact that their bones would not survive a Chicxulub-Rocket Jump.
@kyleepratt
Ай бұрын
Hear me out, a Dino tower of Babel, but they did reach heaven. No burn up speed if they made a cretaceous space elevator! 😜
@MrDj232
Ай бұрын
@@kyleepratt The asteroid wasn't a coincidence. It was punishment for Dino hubris. Humans got off easy in comparison.
@QwertySanchezSA
Ай бұрын
the fact that be brought up being in orbit as a requirement sticks in my craw because nobody said anything about trying get it to orbit the planet, but ultimately it would take more energy to leave the planet's gravitational pull than to be in orbit anyway so it doesn't technically make a difference. but STILLLL
@Pentten
Ай бұрын
Bless you for animating this rant
@aninnocentbystander119
Ай бұрын
This is amazing. Your friend's delivery is gold and sells it so well. I particularly like "Any time I see an headline that is a question, the answer is 'no'."
@henrychurch6062
Ай бұрын
I guess a better worded way to say this would be "Could an already fossilized dinosaur bone have been thrown into space by the impact of the asteroid 66 million yeas ago and sent it outside of earth's orbit and into space." And the answer is.... maybe.
@SikerGaming
Ай бұрын
No, for the same reasons the dinosaur would vaporize. It's be like a reverse meteor, and it'd burn up well before it reached orbit.
@sleadaddy
Ай бұрын
@@SikerGaming You just need it to be in a bigger chunk of rock initially. We have pieces of Mars that landed in Antarctica, so we know that stuff can be ejected into space from impacts. Just not a living thing bigger than a microbe is all. But a fossil? I don't see why not.
@sleadaddy
Ай бұрын
Except for the fact that fossils are so rare to begin with, and dinos were only around for a short period of time not that long ago, of course.
@henrychurch6062
Ай бұрын
@@SikerGaming I seem to remember us finding rocks on earth from mars at some point called "martian meteorites" which granted are ultra rare, but do apparently exist from asteroids or comets knocking bits of mars up into space. I'm assuming that the opposite would be possible as well, leaving earth and then just going off into space in a direction that doesn't hit another planet. I can't prove it either way, martian meteorites may just be misclassified terrestrial rocks for example, but it's an interesting thought experiment IMO.
@henrychurch6062
Ай бұрын
@@sleadaddy Not really. Dinosaurs went extinct at 66MYA when the meteor hit. But we had our first known dinosaurs as early as 230MYA (but possibly as early as 240MYA but i'll hedge my bets with the more conservative estimate) So that's about a 164 million year window. It takes about 10,000 years for a bone to fossilize in good conditions. So that window can be reasonably estimated to be about 16,400 times the duration required. It's weird to think of the world in geologic time, but those dinosaurs were here for a good long while.
@einar_476
Ай бұрын
Could a dinosaur fossil be in space, in a chunk of rock lobbed into orbit by the impact would have been my follow up
@ravenousvisages
Ай бұрын
There are plenty of Martian rocks being discovered in Antartica
@tigercrush2253
Ай бұрын
This is outstanding. I watched it twice just to appreciate your friend's delivery.
@magicmissilestudios
Ай бұрын
As someone who really likes HanksChannel this kind of approachable science content is what makes waking up in the morning worth it (or at least significantly less excruciating)
@thebolas000
Ай бұрын
One of my Spelljammer players is playing a living tar pit plasmoid. So in my game at least, there are dinosaur bones in (wild)space.
@johnnye87
Ай бұрын
I think what this has really proved is that the answer is "only if the dinosaurs had spaceships".
@godofzombi
Ай бұрын
If reading Calvin & Hobbes has told me anything it's that they only managed fighter jets.
@daleseibert9454
Ай бұрын
This was a great episode! I love these videos.
@paleo2002
Ай бұрын
Never thought I'd find a pop-science parody video on a DnD channel. This is awesome!
@RayPoreon
Ай бұрын
That's just what the alien troodon overlords want you to think
@Dukayn66
Ай бұрын
As an ARK player, fuck troodons.
@Saurophaganax1931
Ай бұрын
@@Dukayn66 you’ll be happy to know that, as of present, Troodon isn’t considered a valid species.
@___i3ambi126
Ай бұрын
As a random engineer friend, that's too high of expectations. No way I'm pulling random numbers like that off the top of my head.
@schonnj
Ай бұрын
I'm guessing he made a call on the plausibility and then looked up the numbers to back his case. Or he's a literal rocket scientist and he has things like escape velocities and reentry temperatures on tap.
@meeperdudeify
Ай бұрын
@@schonnj ...It's not that hard to estimate escape velocities as "Really fast (somewhere around a couple km/s)" and "really hot" (idk, they use special ceramic shit for heat shields so that's gotta be hot enough that other materials wouldn't do, and we're asking if a material would hold up)
@QuarterCentum
Ай бұрын
My sister-in-law once wrote a short paper on whether Godzilla's biology was scientifically feasible for the hell of it, so I understand the reasoning for this.
@QuarterCentum
Ай бұрын
The answer was NO.
@NinjaBray
Ай бұрын
This is what we need, somebody who can seriously and scientifically answer all the stupid questions.
@immortal-ghoul
Ай бұрын
Man, I'm sorry it turned out to be alot more than you thought to make for this one, but I am so glad you made this
@calql8ing
Ай бұрын
This is like 3 Body Problem explanations applied to silly questions. I love it
@liallen9380
Ай бұрын
I'm glad this didn't get to just be a short. This was incredibly well animated, charming, and amusing. Then again, I married an engineer. I know very well how deep this logic rabbit hole goes.
@James-jy3lh
Ай бұрын
Asking stupid questions within earshot of an engineer is basically just the premise of "What If"
@wezul
Ай бұрын
"The answer is No." I love this! This is generally my response too!
@Sleepy12ftPanda
Ай бұрын
Counterpoint: What if dinosaurs were smarter than we believe? What if an ancient civilization of intelligent dinosaurs built a rocket and went to space?
@sempersolus5511
Ай бұрын
We would have found way more interesting fossils than _bones._ Our descendants will be mystified by such relics as "roads" and "styrofoam", and theorize that we must have been made of plastic.
@Sleepy12ftPanda
Ай бұрын
@@sempersolus5511 boooo let me dream lol
@Marf-yt
Ай бұрын
@@Sleepy12ftPanda No. If dinosaurs had technology we'd see it in the fossil record. There's plenty of junk humans have already left in layers of rock such that in millions of years there would be no question that we were here. From plastic and ceramics to radioactive isotopes and lead, we have left a distinctive mark on the fossil record. Those last two are literally distributed globally thanks to atomic tests and leaded gasoline.
@Starsmasher287
Ай бұрын
"THERE'S LITERALLY EVERYTHING IN SPACE MORTY!!!"
@PlatinumAltaria
Ай бұрын
"In space" means "beyond the bounds of the Earth's atmosphere", not "within the fabric of spacetime"
@mskiptr
Ай бұрын
@@PlatinumAltaria Is the Earth in space?
@CarissaNomadic
Ай бұрын
This was great 😂 I figured this channel had to go into science in a big way, some way or another, but this was not how I was expecting that to happen! 😂 absolutely worth!
@Henry-ep6qy
Ай бұрын
As an engineer I love this you should do more of these!
@vidjageam6540
Ай бұрын
Well technically, there are no ENTIRE dinosaur bones in space. But some of the atoms that were dinosaur bones are most likely in space. You can also say: "My bones are partially made of dino bones"
@quondamreveries7258
Ай бұрын
“We are made of star-stuff.” - Carl Sagan
@itsthatguyarc7186
Ай бұрын
"I've got di-no D-N-A-" "-No!"
@LogicDuel
27 күн бұрын
The atoms that were once dinosaur bones were turned into rocket parts and are now orbiting earth
@euansmith3699
Ай бұрын
What an unexpected and fun episode.
@nw9353
Ай бұрын
This sound like the usual 2 hour conversation that always takes place before every gaming session.
@Jasonwolf1495
Ай бұрын
Then the zoologist gets involved and we check if any bird has been to space because they are taxonomically dinosaurs.
@Connorisreal
Ай бұрын
And the answer is yes! Quail aboard the Soviet space station Mir
@charleshaines9715
Ай бұрын
This felt like an angry Hank Green lol. I loved it.
@nickmalachai2227
Ай бұрын
I love how the answer isn't "no, the impact wasn't that big", it's "no, dinosaur bones don't have the structural integrity to be catapulted through the atmosphere into outer space."
@jmchristoph
Ай бұрын
What's funny is that this notably *wasn't* the answer given in the video, but it *is* the correct answer nevertheless.
@Rothanware
Ай бұрын
This was an interesting and super funny short! Great work.
@dudety20
Ай бұрын
Genuinely adored this video. I would watch you guys talk about weird obscure stuff all day. Hmm podcast?
@kid14346
Ай бұрын
Honest-to-God.This is probably one of the best videos of what it's like to live around me
@williamfalls
Ай бұрын
Cat: "Can I has cheeseburger?" Answer: "No."
@musicalsystem927
Ай бұрын
This was a fun little side video to have Zee show that he knows some smart people, and I am here for it.
@jonothanthrace1530
Ай бұрын
Let's assume a perfectly spherical dinosaur made of ice.
@martino1504
Ай бұрын
oh and great video man, been loving your stuff for a long time
@Cebreuss
Ай бұрын
Definitely Dinosaurs in Space, statistically.
@radrob83
Ай бұрын
do more of this i like the idea of conversations in local comic shop had a lot of good/fun/weird ones myself 👍🏼
@nortonplumbing9552
Ай бұрын
Loved it!!! Bit of science, bit of fantasy, hella good animations.
@josuelservin
Ай бұрын
But what if...
@simonnading
Ай бұрын
No 😂
@twicedeadmage
Ай бұрын
It do be like that.
@TheRyujinLP
Ай бұрын
As somebody who has done this kind of thing to my friends many times, I approve of this video.
@lwardrop2453
Ай бұрын
I appreciate that you made it into a full video! very informative.
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