One thing remember from OG Wotlk is that Rogue was insanely squishy class , thus playing with one was stressful and felt like you need to be a pro by default to succeed compared to some other classes ...
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Thats so true, rogues are definitely squish
@user-ou3zn3cu2k
Жыл бұрын
Thank you man for this, rogue my best class. Playing from wow classic on rogue and all time that i spent on this class i play only pvp so your guide very useful for my comeback in wotlk classic
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I could help you out :) I appreciate the comment, I hope to see you in future videos!
@zorey96
Жыл бұрын
Just what I needed
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply! Glad I could help!
@zorey96
Жыл бұрын
@@itsego_tv xD
@caseyneistat1071
Жыл бұрын
you never want to use deadly poison as a subtetly... how are you gonna control your targets if you have DP up on them? Sub rogue is all about control and burst, maybe in rare cases you want DP for warriors or to keep a stealth class out of stealth, but it's a bad tip. It's not a bad video but there's several things that are not correct.
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
So I used Deadly for the extra DoT damage, that's my personal choice! Though you can swap Deadly for Instant or something else for sure for allowing Gouge and Blind
@jessiesfrosties
Жыл бұрын
@@itsego_tv Sub uses wound and crippling, that's about it. Wound on main coz it procs on major abilities like cheap shot (vital) and crippling on off-hand. There's no other poisons that are good for sub in pvp.
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
@@jessiesfrosties Great notes thanks!
@jeanjosephbourge9416
7 ай бұрын
you can't favor 3 stats at the same time, either you sacrifice arpen and you keep ap and resilience or one of the three at least davo6du t10 277 to keep a little arpen
@chrism2027
Жыл бұрын
Rouge and Frost Mage, verry nice Combo.
@r.t.6490
Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video! Did you also make one about setting the interface like the one you use?
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
No I haven’t but that’s a great idea!!
@zeroresistance7203
Жыл бұрын
Hmm is expertise cap really worth it in pvp? Like i'm thinking you can always Shadowstep kidneyshot, to land Guranteed Kidneyshots. When you have shadow dance up Since cheapshot can't ever be dodged, parried or blocked. However it is possible to miss with it. I've had some games where i lose due to the fact of gouge getting parried, but idk i just get the feeling that you're loosing to much attackpower to compensate for expertise capped in pvp.
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Expertise is definitely worth going for, you don’t want to be getting parried during your fights whenever you can’t stun them - a good player will always be facing you, unless they’re stunned
@WellWisdom.
4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@tommythehedgehog9240
Жыл бұрын
Finally there it is
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoyed it, took some time to make for sure! Haha :)
@tommythehedgehog9240
Жыл бұрын
@@itsego_tv sub rogue for me is the way to go. I switchet often between combat and assa whyle pve until I got the right daggers. So the fun can begin ^^
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
@@tommythehedgehog9240 heck yeah!
@krutoypacan5652
Жыл бұрын
thx for guide bro
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment :)
@rifkyfidhal3127
Жыл бұрын
I had a question. Actually i'm a main warrior dps and i ever fight against rogue at pvp, But why sometimes when i hit rogue my hit is just miss tho my hit rating is capped 8%. And I know that rogue has evasion skill (50%dodge) but how is that possible every time i hit them always got miss although the evasion skill has 3 mins cooldown.
@ibeatbitches
Жыл бұрын
if you play a human rogue would you recommend putting in a tank trinket to help with the rogues squishyness some or would you recommend two dps trinkets?
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
DPS trinkets personally!
@Sliver7744
Жыл бұрын
Insane guide bro, Sub / like and much love
@tiagoferrari2392
Жыл бұрын
hey man, awesome video! in your opinion, what would be the good 2s comps with another melee?
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Enhance Shaman, Ret or even a DK!
@conika98
Жыл бұрын
Goat
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
You're a legend :)
@albeshino8875
Жыл бұрын
Great short video. So do poisons only proc on normal attacks or they can proc on abilities too? If they can proc on abilities then wouldn't it be better to have deadly on main hand even if it’s a slower weapon?
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Great question and I’ve been doing some research to try and get a definitive answer and I believe they proc off abilities too yes. So the reason you’ll always want deadly in your off-hand is because your main source of damage isn’t your poisons as a Sub, you gain more utility from them than anything so you’d want Wound on your main to ensure constant application
@albeshino8875
Жыл бұрын
@@itsego_tv Yeah they're utility indeed. Tbh personally I'm not yet convinced to spend 2 points on Waylay talent so I use crippling and wound anyways. I was just curious about the procs though. thanks for letting me know... Btw, Deadly can break gauge or blind, I guess, So if one wants to use deadly just as a bit of extra damage, instant can also be good.
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Instant can be good yep! Even swapping Waylay and using Crippling instead of Dead and putting those talents maybe into improved ambush?
@albeshino8875
Жыл бұрын
@@itsego_tv exactly
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
@@albeshino8875 I might experiment with that
@rikkithomsen4735
Жыл бұрын
I LOVE IT FINALLY
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Wooohooo! :D
@thegreekgeek7113
10 ай бұрын
for expertise, is that 40-60 rating or points? i assume rating but wanted to confirm lol
@atoomhun2477
Жыл бұрын
which talent u use the most?
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Everything in the guide is used all the time. For skills tho I use Cheap Shot a lot lol
@tiagoferrari2392
Жыл бұрын
Do you think PREG/ROGUE Works better than RET/ROGUE?
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
For 2v2 I honestly think Ret works nicely but you really want a disc priest
@tiagoferrari2392
Жыл бұрын
@@itsego_tv TYVM for all the answers mate! So, we deicided to play SPR + ROGUE... we are currently at 1400 rating with 60% win rating... we are havgin a blast, but the comp is damn hard to play, no mistakes can be done!
@OchoBandito
Жыл бұрын
Dumb question but is there any use out of shiv? I was going to keybind it but it seems like it's take up space. I almost never click it.
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
If you need a quick Crippling Poison application to slow down a target, Shiv is great for it :)
@OchoBandito
Жыл бұрын
@@itsego_tv cool thanks for the response! I was talking to some other rogues and it seems like it gets some very marginal use
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comment, I love to reply!! Yeah it has some uses but it won’t be used in EVERY single fight lol
@albeshino8875
Жыл бұрын
Hey Ego, Have you ever tested if Ambush while dancing benefits from Lethality talent?
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe it does because it requires you to be stealth unfortunately :(
@albeshino8875
Жыл бұрын
@@itsego_tv I also thought so. But I in this video (kzitem.info/news/bejne/162bsIGcqIleoo4) Shobek says it does affect Ambushes during dance.
@albeshino8875
Жыл бұрын
see after 4:10 on his video
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
@@albeshino8875 it might because you aren’t stealth but Idk I’d have to look hmmmm
@toas7359
8 ай бұрын
where i can buy Arcanum of Triumph? )
@varragoastu
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and gosh I love undead rogues.
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Undead Rogues too they’re my fav!!
@Trefort90
Жыл бұрын
You're trolling with the deadly poison on off hand, right?
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
I may have made an error on the poisons, you may not want to use deadly at all and go for Crippling and Wound
@beefchalupa
Жыл бұрын
What do you think the best race for horde is? Undead for fear trinket, blood elf for instant silence and energy, or orc for stun resist and blood fury?
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I prefer undead for the extra fear drop!
@devincowden9017
Жыл бұрын
Orc for stun resist and blood fury because will and trinket share a cd
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
@@devincowden9017 they have a 45 sec CD share that’s true, I also just prefer undead for the looks lol
@mizzbachmeier9580
Жыл бұрын
does deadly poison make blind not work?
@AliAliOxenFree
Жыл бұрын
is it viable to start with the entire pvp set at 80? pve stuff is hard to come by on my server since the other faction makes up 95% of the population
@thadoctorreturns2999
Жыл бұрын
I didn't see anything about glyphs, unless I just TL;DRed it.
@brandonkruse6412
Жыл бұрын
If we get Cata Classic, I’m 100% going sub rogue for raiding.. those legendary daggers are op
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
Cata Classic will be interesting!
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
What do you think about Sub Rogue? Do you like playing them? Do you hate going against them? Let me know!
@Claymore1314
Жыл бұрын
Glyphs?
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
I use Shadow Dance, Prep and Cloak of Shadows
@Retardedspecies
Жыл бұрын
You dont want expertice as you will be behind your target anyway
@itsego_tv
Жыл бұрын
You won’t always be behind your target, there are times where you may be in front of them, not to mention, you can also be dodged - a good PVPer will always be facing you unless they’re stunned
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