Hey all, I made a typo on the CVT models. For both the SJ Forester XT and Outback wilderness the CVT should be the TR690HT. Whoops!
@Doc1855
9 ай бұрын
In 21 I bought my wife an Outback for her birthday gift. I was tired of us having to park her old Camry 3-4 months every winter. She would drive my old Rav 4WD and I’d drive our 4WD pickup. We’re 5 miles from town up on our mountain where we get 5-7 feet of snow. Her Camry was very reliable but after 18 years of driving it and then her having to use my car it kinda made sense to buy her an Outback. We LOVE the traction both on a mild off road trips that a year later in 22 I bought a Forester Touring for myself. We sold my Rav but donated the Camry to the church for a single mom who desperately needed a car. We never take our Subie’s off road for “4 wheeling”, but they’re great on logging and forest roads.
@fozzy_che
10 ай бұрын
Was very interesting to see
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
I was genuinely intrigued when it just drove right up.
@seanstewart6292
3 ай бұрын
seeing the 2 Pitbull's in the mine made my day as a dad of 4 pitties. they are the best doggos ever.
@Databyter
10 ай бұрын
I've got the same car, a 2022 OBW, the only mods I made are a bronze highlight delete on the exterior (kept the badge tho), and I have 245 Falken Trail AT's on Motegi 7,5X17 Rally Wheels, which gives me a half inch more clearance on paper, but in reality is is probably closer to 3/4 " because the Falkens tend to sag less than the Stock Tires as well as being taller. Any way you slice it I have over 10" clearance, which isn't much for trails like these, but better than stock and it's TRUE clearance, no Pumpkins etc. I do have the Subaru Recommended Skid Plates, self installed from front to back, and although people say they are inferior, I think they are misunderstood. This is a Unibody Frame. I don't want a super hard Plate hammering up into my frame and suspension. I want deformable energy absorbing tech, which is what the recommended plates do. They are designed to deflect and deform, much like modern bumpers vs those in the 60's. This is widely misunderstood, and People who bragg about super hard hits on their aftermarket plates with no damage, might want to look at the deformation of what they are mounted to, because unlike a Body on rails truck or jeep, you wouldn't want to jack up a car with a unibody skid plate. Just sayin. Anyhow, I digress. Great video. It would be fun to try some of that, but I mostly just explore without getting too technical. So far I've only needed Xmode a few times. I love my Rig. I keep it light, with minimal camping gear, a tow hitch that can be mounted in my factory receiver, hi flow air compressor, soft shackles and dynamic tow rope. All of which is mostly insurance that I haven't yet needed. I've been on super soft dry hot sand, snow, and mud, and only got stuck once, and Xmode and a skid plate got me out in less than 5 minutes. I probably didn't need the skid plate, but I didn't want to take the chance of digging down in sand. The Xmode didn't let it slip at all, I had been in normal mode for most of my sand experience, and it was fine for most of it, until I had to do a hard stop, self sticking myself. Cheers. Yeah Subbies. And all the other cool vehicles and brands on this video. Databyter
@iluvdrt8776
10 ай бұрын
The Wilderness OBW is a beast man. Im super impressed with it. 40k miles on mine now
@woodjunkjrjr2689
10 ай бұрын
How is it in the rain, on pavement?
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
Jason, when we did the oriflamme canyon trail with your OBW, it was hard for me to gauge because you have such a “driver mod” 😂. This obstacle was much different.
@iluvdrt8776
10 ай бұрын
@@woodjunkjrjr2689 sticks like glue
@iluvdrt8776
10 ай бұрын
@JonDZ_Adventuring yeah, it's funny, I was reading some comments on that one today and man did I have some haters lol
@woodjunkjrjr2689
10 ай бұрын
@@iluvdrt8776 Just need bullet proof glass and a tear gas turrent, and I can drive it in Seattle.
@FIF0101578
10 ай бұрын
Great video like always. More Nissan Xterra content would be awesome though.
@bruceyyyyy
10 ай бұрын
Came for the Sube. Stayed for the Porsche. Btw the Wildy has a HTTR690. Not 580. I only point this out because seeing them both side by side I don't think they share any parts.
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
It was a typo. I created a pinned post. The SJ FXT and OBW both gave the TR690HT and there is no such thing as a TR580HT (although, that would be pretty cool!)
@aoweiman
10 ай бұрын
"There's plenty-" Classic moment, Subarus have good ground clearance but they're approach angles leave alot to be desired.
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
A bigger subframe drop will fix that. Too many Subues are modded out to get a 2” lift, and not enough with a 4” lift with 2” subframe drop. With that said though, Abe’s OBW wilderness was totally stock and he got through the trail and back at camp like a trooper!
@onetimer100
6 ай бұрын
It's a car not a rock climber or even a 4x4
@4WDisLife
9 ай бұрын
and yea that locker slide is something interesting, I also found out after I installed the rear locker, maybe in some scenarios, it's better to not lock and just let atrac does the work?
@JonDZ_Adventuring
9 ай бұрын
That’s one thing we learned from our “Trail Sensei” Nori. Where you don’t want to slide (like off a cliff in Moab), don’t use the locker. In some cases, momentum will be a better option.
@jximages
9 ай бұрын
This was a fun watch. I'm currently trying to decide between 3 of the vehicles you showed. Those OBWs have a lot going for them. Great production,
@Doc1855
9 ай бұрын
OBW and the Forester Wilderness are very good choices for serious off roading. Both our OBW and Forester are not the Wilderness trim, as we needed vehicles with superior traction. We get 5-7 feet of snow up on our mountain every winter. Our road is private so we have to plow and maintain it ourselves. When chainsaw are required to travel over the mountain passes between us and Seattle, the State Police will always allow Subaru’s to travel with just snow tires and chains are optional. During snow storms if we have to go into the city (25 miles away), the Subaru’s are mostly in the fast lane going around 45-55mph while all of the FWD and other AWD and 4WD vehicles are in the slow lane driving around 30-35mph. We have only seen 1 Subie in the ditch (it was a 17 year old boy driving). We pulled over and picked him up and drove him to his house. Every other time the vehicles in the ditch or spun out are Not Subaru’s. Whenever we have to drive to the family ranch in Montana (12 hours away), people with Subaru’s are confident in their vehicles. When ours wear out, we’ll replace them with another Subaru
@jximages
9 ай бұрын
Nice. I really enjoyed sitting in the OWB at the dealership@@Doc1855 . Right now the choices are OWB, Taco Off-Road w/6 ft bed, or a 4Runner Off-Road. It'll be for forest roads and high clearance vehicle roads in Northern NM, and Colorado. So snow and and challenging terrain will always be a concern. And I need something to be able to sleep in at low temps and high winds. I know just about every other person in the southern rockies has a Subaru, very popular for mountain driving.
@pnw_element9822
10 ай бұрын
Tough and what a great driver as well heck yeah guys fun fun fun
@jeffnaval4894
9 ай бұрын
Crosstrek wilderness easily beats the OBW when it comes to this type of obstacle.
@popeyerubi1981
10 ай бұрын
Let’s go, Abe!!! Wuhoo!! Nicely done bro! Haha! That jetboil at the end. 😂😂😂
@loganhagen5548
9 ай бұрын
You need to test a stock Forester Wilderness. Just got mine two weeks ago!
@chuckwalla2967
9 ай бұрын
Sure it made it up, but how much wear and tear did it cause on the CVT?
@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531
4 ай бұрын
Get a person from Bolivia, Pakistan, & Madagascar they will get those vehicles anywhere on the trails!
@davidwelty9763
6 ай бұрын
A company with the light off road credibility of Subaru should never had embraced the CVT.
@no-lodesigns
10 ай бұрын
Another solid adventure in the books!
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
Thanks Ian! I actually had a little advertisement on our way to the arch, but my video was over 50 minutes long and I had to do some trimming 😭
@elijahcavin2408
10 ай бұрын
That xterra was impressive. Went through it like it was locked. I have a second Gen cayenne diesel and love it for road trips and rough roads. I think the first gen would definitely be better in high tourque situations with the low range i just wish they had a diesel for range and mileage. Been looking at touaregs because they did have a diesel. If there was a way to put the old transfer case on the second gen I think it would be the best having the 8 speed trans and better traction control.
@FIF0101578
9 ай бұрын
For the size of the engine in an 2nd gen Xterra it’s kinda of a torque monster. 4.0 v6 265hp and 285 torque. Less hp than a 4Runner but more torque and when it comes to price they’re worlds apart.
@KrazyKoots
9 ай бұрын
That was Definitely a Pro4x Xterra. They come with a rear locker. I'm sure that helped
@jltplease
9 ай бұрын
Bro, I saw you driving in Irvine freeway on Saturday. Passport is looking cool.
@JonDZ_Adventuring
9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!! 🙏
@50ccAdventure
10 ай бұрын
Have the specs on that f150? Props to the guy bringing a full size out!
@Easan302
10 ай бұрын
It’s a 2018 XLT FX4 w/ 5.0. Factory skid plates and rear locker. Icon suspension on 35”x17x12.5 Kenda Klevers R/T
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
You’d probably make it Ernesto. It would be very tight though, totally not worth it 🤣
@spartanj2957
7 ай бұрын
My 78 Subaru 4x4 wagon would have done it easily.
@marden888
10 ай бұрын
as always, awesome content🤙🏼 goodjob jon!
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
Thanks John P!
@OverlandOverloaded
9 ай бұрын
Glad you didn't die at the end!
@0HOON0
10 ай бұрын
When did the Outback first get the TR580? Earlier models had the TR690 until at least 2023 MY.
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
Awww crap, did I make a typo?
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
I made a pinned post about the error
@javierlugo259
10 ай бұрын
Awesome Video Bro......Many Thanks.
@thomas735
10 ай бұрын
Are the newer CVTs heavier duty?
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
Same model CVT, but with improvements and updated programming
@thomas735
10 ай бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring hmm interesting. They do seem to drive better compared to the older ones.
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
The capability difference is quite substantial, but it appears that it also has a lot to do with how the traction control system is more aggressive.
@thomas735
10 ай бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring you would know! I have to say I’m surprised at what “car based” crossovers can accomplish these days. I also never knew a passport could be so capable.
@rodrigogoytia925
7 ай бұрын
they beefed it up a bit and their cooling is upgraded for all wilderness trims so it doesn't overheat easily.
@Hondo21435
10 ай бұрын
What’s the max height to clear that. I wonder if I can fit under the arch 🤔
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
I’m not totally sure, but there’s height and also width to worry about. It’s a good obstacle because it forces the driver to use a max amount of momentum. My guess is that the dead center is about 90” tall, but it’s an uphill obstacle and it tapers to the center.
@sfshilo
10 ай бұрын
The second gent x-mode in low drive selection does well on the non wilderness as well. I think people try and shove too much tire on these which is going to impact the cvt performance by over torquing the trans.
@JeffSpehar-ov1cn
10 ай бұрын
The OBW has a transmission cooler also, the other models do not.
@FnFUMusic
9 ай бұрын
Wonderful, handled with the grace and stature of a drunk penguin. I’ve never seen so many cars that shouldn’t be doing something they are doing somewhere they shouldn’t be.
@moonsapling
9 ай бұрын
Jeeps arent meant for highways and malls yet they spend 90% of the time exactly there.
@Jase583
9 ай бұрын
It is about the adventure and let's see if we can.
@aberolick7857
9 ай бұрын
yeah, we're lucky we all made it out alive!
@LionRunner
9 ай бұрын
That's a beauty to see just basic 4WD + Atrac work. Why I never wanna go back to AWD world.
@4WDisLife
9 ай бұрын
safe to say my tundra is probably too big for it.
@florianraducan
10 ай бұрын
I tried finding out what is the crawl ratio for a Honda CR-V 2008 i-CTDi 2.2l diesel, but can’t seem to find this info. Is there a way to calculate the crawl ratio?
@CalebCissna
10 ай бұрын
Lowest Transmission gear ratio multiplied by the axle final drive ratio
@florianraducan
10 ай бұрын
@@CalebCissna Thanks! The crawl ratio would be 3.93x4.11=16.1523. Is that ok for this type of SUV?
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
That’s actually pretty good for an AWD, and it’s diesel? Even better!
@ChrisShawMedia
9 ай бұрын
That Gen 1 Cayenne. Awesome √
@nagval7592
4 ай бұрын
Второго
@lolness116
8 ай бұрын
Man would love to see a forester wilderness try this.
@JonDZ_Adventuring
8 ай бұрын
I would imagine it would make it up. If you watched the Sarah N Tuned hill test. the OBW didn't make it up, but the FW did.
@AntilleanConfederation
3 ай бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuringforester W with the outback’s 2.4 T and a manual would be insanely capable. Modern version of the lada niva.
@Jaypher
9 ай бұрын
Are you using the empty spare tire space for something? I get the appeal for a swing arm spare on the crosstrek given it doesnt come with a full size spare. Adding the swing arm just seems like added weight, so your insight is appreciated!
@aberolick7857
9 ай бұрын
yeah, in the spare wheel well i have permanently mounted a 100Ah lifepo4 battery, 30A dc-dc charger, 1000W inverter, fuse panel, and two radios (gmrs and ham). i have all my tools/recovery gear in there as well.
@Easan302
10 ай бұрын
Good times 👍
@JonDZ_Adventuring
10 ай бұрын
That was a good trip, especially the target practice afterwards. We did more during the Death Valley trip. Very good day doing drills for me.
@Andrew-jh5uv
10 ай бұрын
NO! Diff lock it and bin CVT subaru🙄
@BodiesByJason
9 ай бұрын
I wanna see the wilderness do the same obstacle with a rear locker
@dannyboy1984
9 ай бұрын
Did you use Xmode 1 or 2 ? Deep sand and mud work's better in my opinion plus it give's more agressive throttle input
@aberolick7857
9 ай бұрын
x-mode 1 (snow/dirt) for sure.
@Dudleyism1
9 ай бұрын
does the 2022 have the same cvt as the 2023 ?
@jorgeserrano8806
10 ай бұрын
For the Outback wilderness, what is the brand for your front skid plate?
@aberolick7857
9 ай бұрын
primitive racing
@rener44
10 ай бұрын
Flip flops
@TOFU2urDOOR
9 ай бұрын
I was impressed by the Subaru until I looked up the price.
@shannonstrode7967
9 ай бұрын
Man i wouldnt trade my trail hawk for any of these
@JonDZ_Adventuring
9 ай бұрын
That Porsche is 4WD and has 550 hp and torque
@shannonstrode7967
9 ай бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring a locker is so nice to have tho
@JonDZ_Adventuring
9 ай бұрын
@@shannonstrode7967 True! I believe the cayenne can be optioned with one. The 1st gen Touareg has that option.
@trailrunnah8886
9 ай бұрын
Those first gen Cayenne's are awesome, but I have to imagine they're a maintenance nightmare.
@sjfk1306
9 ай бұрын
It’s really not that impressive if 2 Honda AWD minivans made it….
@JonDZ_Adventuring
9 ай бұрын
LOL
@JonDZ_Adventuring
9 ай бұрын
It’s truly impressive for the Subaru CVT platform
@OcaroPineappl9033
8 ай бұрын
Within the first 10 seconds, i knew the driver was unfamiliar with subarus symmetrical awd
@johnwayne8475
3 ай бұрын
One thing you might not realise is the Outback 3.6R 5sp SEAT has a LSD rear diff which helps with traction when there is wheel lift.
@JonDZ_Adventuring
3 ай бұрын
Source? Subaru incorrectly called their brake vectoring an “E-LSD” for a while. Not sure if they still do. Some versions of the older outbacks had a mechanical LSD with no brake vectoring, but the LSD would wear out and act as an open differential.
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