Thank you for introducing me to Professor ☺ Kehinde Andrews, whose work I didn't know until today (maybe I should watch GB News). His point of view is crucial, as is the way he expresses it. The thought of Kemi Badenoch as PM does make me want to die but apart from that... great episode, guys ❤
@tamugray2650
9 ай бұрын
I love these two. if we are going to hell in a hand basket, i want Nish and Coco in my basket.
@alextyler9912
9 ай бұрын
As a lifelong anti fascist i am so disappointed with the lurch to the right across the world. However, I'm so happy I've been listening to all your stuff for the last 6 months - it has given me a sense of hope back, that the next generation of fighters (yourselves) are stepping up. Thank you both x
@thepetermullins
9 ай бұрын
Good to hear from Kehinde, always love hearing a lovely Brummie accent on the pod. We need to end these divisions in our society. That said, as a University of Birmingham alumni, screw that Birmingham City University piece of trash! BOOOOOO!!!!!!
@mndrew1
9 ай бұрын
Never heard the term 'coconut' used that way before. In the US you are most likely to hear people like, say, Clarence Thomas referred to as 'Oreos'. Which just goes to show you that America's unhealthy relationship with food is transcendent.
@buchanfoulsham6314
9 ай бұрын
😂
@shadebug
9 ай бұрын
As a rule, oreos are black on the outside and coconuts are brown on the outside but we can't be expecting racists to keep their slurs straight
@vvwalker7261
9 ай бұрын
Adding to your list of racist slurs... What a day 🎉
@Kaltagstar96
9 ай бұрын
I 1000% agree with Nish about the concern about the rise of the hard right all around Europe, like, especially in places like France, Germany and Italy (you'd think they'd be three of the countries to know what happens when you go that far to the right).
@Jackal-ML2024
9 ай бұрын
"You think that's encouragement? ... Fuckin hell" LOL you two crack me up! Keep doing the theme tune, Coco, it was a delight!!
@JustStopPlayingGames
9 ай бұрын
LET COCO SING IN THE CREDITS AGAIN!
@jgray2718
9 ай бұрын
I was wondering what coconut meant. I assumed it was some slur against Pacific Islanders, but apparently not. In America "coconut" is usually "Oreo".
@troyaturner1979
9 ай бұрын
You guys call them coconuts? We call them Oreos😂
@rorrt
9 ай бұрын
It's interesting, in the discussion with Andrews, around the conservatives, adding black and asian people to it's ranks. So it can target THOSE very people with policies. At university, there was an interesting lecture, by a photographer Simon Roberts (if anyone has seen the photograph of John Prescott eating a pie, with wide open eyes, you've seen a photo by him) he went through all the photos on the Conservative flickr account (this was around 2012/2013). Every single photo had a black person, or an asian person... Vastly higher than the proportion of it's membership, or it's representation in the HoC... As a sign that "listen.... I know we have the reputation of the white/gammon party... BUT HEEEEY! Look how diverse our party is!" So fucking diverse, there was barely a single white person in any of the photos.
@saxoeeee
9 ай бұрын
If it makes you feel better Nish, coconut is a term used in the states too. I’ve seen Mexicans use this term to describe other Mexican Americans that they deem too “white washed” 24:54
@dm0016
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for a great pod and for introducing me to Kehinde Andrews. Fascinating interview!
@CPaulCounts
9 ай бұрын
Definitely!
@magspies
9 ай бұрын
(no offence) but the ignorance of english about northern ireland is insane. the fact they don't even know NI currency is not even consider legal tender in britain sums it up nicely.
@jsrodman
9 ай бұрын
It's almost like the UK doesn't really care about the needs of the Irish.
@magspies
9 ай бұрын
@@jsrodman the uk = britain and northern ireland. and considering a few folk in NI consider themselves british, yet the english still don't really care about NI.
@jezlawrence720
9 ай бұрын
I would like to hear Coco and her super-happy voice narrating an audio book. Ideally one maxed out with gloom and doom, like Watership Down. '"There's a dog loose in the woods!" oh, how lovely! (giggles)"
@sophiemcmillan4073
9 ай бұрын
Sadly, very few people even know what the Cop 28 is and even fewer pay attention
@KThyme
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I hafta disagree with the guest on trying to educate and change opinions. Growing up in a predominantly white area, I benefited a lot from the insights of my friends and community later in life. I see the guy's point, but at the same time, I don't think "don't waste your time" is a valuable response.
@digitalcareline
9 ай бұрын
The mockery on ITV news about COP28 - 3 separate private planes, one 12 hour visit by 'Oil be back' Sunak and a Greek flag tie trolling of the century.
@windlessoriginals1150
9 ай бұрын
Never forget and never learn 💯.
@kittybluett8887
9 ай бұрын
In New Zealand we say brown onion. Coconut is a derogatory name for Pacific Islanders which they now have owned.
@vvwalker7261
9 ай бұрын
Let the competition from racial slurs against brown people who don't think like you begin!
@DavidSpalding-s6h
9 ай бұрын
Getting a bit Smashie and Nicey guys
@BeccaAl
9 ай бұрын
#BribeAWhitePerson for change! Great show. Cheers.
@GhettoGirlTravels
9 ай бұрын
I LOVE his mom! ❤ Preach 🙏🏾 Queen!
@kittybluett8887
9 ай бұрын
New Zealand too have the far right party as part of our new government, god help us.
@music_YT2023
9 ай бұрын
I don't really agree with the professor. Having diverse voices gives rise to and highlights diverse viewpoints. Saying that we'd have better outcomes for minority groups with only all-white committees also ignores the long history of homogeneous committees being blind to the unique issues and injustices faced by minorities. Even today, on committees I sit on, I have to remind the faculty (the majority of whom are from middle and upper class families) that open houses, recruitment activities and youth engineering classes need to take into account low income families and schools that don't have the funds/resources to participate/travel to these events. And these are people that are willing to listen and open to inclusion - I couldn't imagine how horrid it would be trying to discuss these matters with someone who doesn't even view me as a real person.
@tammielynn8273
9 ай бұрын
Great segment on race. A really good book to give an honest perspective on where white supremacy comes from is The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy by Robert P. Jones.
@marknugent9851
9 ай бұрын
I like Nish a lot, that guest was was ace but... #CocoIsTheMostDelightfulHumanEver
@peterreeves6825
9 ай бұрын
The rise of Reform makes me sad, but, Richard Tice has just come out in favour of PR, maybe that will put some pressure on the Labour leadership to follow the will of the Labour conference and put electoral reform in their manifesto. Great show Coco and Nish, I listen every week and always enjoy it. P.S. I am white and open to bribery 😉
@alygray8779
9 ай бұрын
Thank you both for a timely and important discussion on race and privilege.
@bbirda1287
9 ай бұрын
I hate to quash Coco's hope, but I'm not convinced that the wealthy have an existential problem with climate change. I'm sure they don't feel a problem. There have always been slums where the poors live and they can all move to where ever the new coasts end up and have martinis on the new imported sand beaches. I don't even know that it will affect their caviar supply, what is a few hundred dollars more for a serving? They certainly don't shop for foods, it just appears and their accountants write it off as a business expense. Although it does affect wine supplies, hmmm, maybe that's an angle to pursue. And tea and coffee, dammit.
@Vulcanerd
9 ай бұрын
Well, they do have nice haircuts... no! No!! Bad youtube commenter! Bad!! 🤣
@FSMDog
9 ай бұрын
Joining the Corbyn pile on? #ItWasAScam
@GuntD-rz1xb
9 ай бұрын
Hope Not Hate was part of the scam.
@jamesmccabe2000
9 ай бұрын
adele on money no thanks lol
@eimearkavanagh3608
9 ай бұрын
"Whack Adele on the fiver!"
@ericschichl5996
9 ай бұрын
In America we use oreo
@SusanOnTVShows
9 ай бұрын
Fun fact: in the US the term is oreo rather than coconut.
@vvwalker7261
9 ай бұрын
Who knew you could create "fun facts" out of racist slurs... Well done you 🎉
@SusanOnTVShows
9 ай бұрын
LOL! Wasn't sure how to phrase so...yeah.@@vvwalker7261
@niamhperreault4844
9 ай бұрын
Hahah hilarious comments on the bank notes but please know trying to get anyone in London or elsewhere to accept them as legal tender is minus craic! PS Adele would get my vote but should clearly be on a 20 quid note at least a fiver wouldnt do her justice.
@alicemerray
9 ай бұрын
I find Badenoch (or Bad Enoch) very dangerous, as she's outwardly appealing: she looks like a young, slightly hip Mum. But her beliefs and rhetoric are revolting and far too much in thrall to the worst of US politics. I very much hope the Prof loses his bet!
@sheep4521
9 ай бұрын
Ballz so sweaty
@TheStrangeBloke
9 ай бұрын
Associating colonialism with whiteness seems like a no-brainer, but capitalism? Capitalism is just a structure by which goods and services are exchanged. There is no reason it has to be colonialist in its structure, and many countries in latin america and Asia were able to become very wealthy via investment and building themselves up. I agree we need to reassess the global financial system but it's more complicated than just saying "capitalism". A system that cares for the earth but uses markets to assign values to things like 'beach front property' would be capitalist but this hardly indicates some great moral compromise. I do get the point regarding political pragmatism and interest alignment rather than moral persuasion, but his own statements indicates that he thinks people *have* been persuaded and finds great hope in this.
@EdwardLindon
9 ай бұрын
That's because you're apparently thinking of whiteness as something substantive or real rather than structural. The point is a system of domination and exploitation, an ordered racial hierarchy and the treating of human beings as instrumental means to an end. Actual skin colour is irrelevant.
@jsrodman
9 ай бұрын
Both of these systems originated in the same places and have been interlinked for their histories. To expand a bit, the idea of race was built in order to justify empire, in terms of "we have all these enslaved brown people why is this okay?" Race was cooked up to explain it. Now, why did we have all these slaves? To exploit their labor and accrue capital. You might think race is a normal, natural idea. But it's a pretty recent construct, about 200 years old. We don't need it. And whiteness is the blessing of oppression by and within this system.
@magspies
9 ай бұрын
@TheStrangeBloke what do you think colonialism is/where did it stemmed from? it's all down to capitalism, you can't seperate the two.
@gingerbiscuits
9 ай бұрын
Well people exchanged goods and services before the invention of capitalism, so I'd define capitalism as a system where private individuals who already have wealth can use that wealth to create more wealth. It appears to inevitably lead to the mass exploitation of labour/resources from wherever can't defend itself - i.e., usually poorer countries in the global south - because there isn't a single capitalist economy today that doesn't depend on some form of slave labour (and cheap labour) to produce cheap food and cheap goods. Capitalist organisations are still using violence to achieve their aims, i.e., Shell funded miltia to kill Nigerian civilians who opposed Shell's pollution and environmental destruction. Isn't this still basically colonialism? Maybe we could imagine this ending if there was some kind of global income equality but I honestly think that would mean the end of capitalism - no more massive profits without massive exploitation. Just my opinion.
@TheStrangeBloke
9 ай бұрын
@@magspies Colonialism predates capitalism by multiple centuries though, and capitalism argues colonialism is inherently wasteful.
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