If you can permanently deform a rapier just by flexing it... that's a problem....
@NocturnalPyro
4 жыл бұрын
yeah
@toxicelamain2494
2 жыл бұрын
@@DeruwynArchmage Well you can just bent it back
@Neon-Lines
2 жыл бұрын
@@toxicelamain2494 lol
@AliothAncalagon
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. You can basically bend every blade past the point of permanent deformation with your bare hands if it has a certain length. But if the blade is so willingly accepting to be flexed like that this is obviously an entirely different thing.
@josebatistaneto3301
7 жыл бұрын
Have you seen those soldiers from Hammerfell? They've got curved swords. Curved, swords
@tiberseptim1769
5 жыл бұрын
Nicee
@juuishjuul1695
5 жыл бұрын
You never should of come here
@BasedAlaric
5 жыл бұрын
@Toasty boi Then pay with your blood!
@BasedAlaric
5 жыл бұрын
@Toasty boi ugh, haagh! Oofh...
@originalname5096
4 жыл бұрын
Jax _Ragdolls_
@metatronyt
7 жыл бұрын
Very good video thank you for sharing pal :) you have got some really nice swords
@cster9261
3 жыл бұрын
You could say he is Flexing his swords!
@vaporhtrail4350
6 жыл бұрын
Bending the rapiers so much that they will not return to their center is making me cringe
@danielhristov6175
4 жыл бұрын
Those were not rapiers. All toes are fingers but not all fingers are toes. Rapiers are thick, narrow and solid not thin and wide. Neighter wobbly.
@doomguy5410
4 жыл бұрын
Why cringe, are you stupid ?
@goncalobaia1574
3 жыл бұрын
Actually that is a way of testing the integrity of the blades
@johnwickinyt3017
2 жыл бұрын
@@doomguy5410 why is he stupid?hiw do you define cringe?
@toxicelamain2494
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielhristov6175 They’re by no means thick.
@iamscoutstfu
7 жыл бұрын
Skalla, I wont you to know that "end him rightly" references are popping up everywhere. I live in seattle and I SAW A SHIRT WITH "END HIM RIGHTLY" WRITTEN ON IT!
@DeutscherDummer
7 жыл бұрын
I saw one of the M&B devs referencing it, TB said it while talking about For Honor... IT'S EVERYWHERE !
@QuickQuips
7 жыл бұрын
DeutscherDummer Can you end someone rightly in that game?
@SgtKOnyx
7 жыл бұрын
Kyle Simon Even before the crossover they were on Lindy's channel
@DeutscherDummer
7 жыл бұрын
No, you can't, which is why it sucks :c Got my hopes up for Bannerlords though. There needs to be a unit called pommel-thrower, for ending every single bastard rightly !
@Dr_Cannibalism
7 жыл бұрын
I've seen "end him rightly" used in the comments of InRangeTV videos.
@theardanaut9407
7 жыл бұрын
*tries to pierce opponent* *sword overflexes, can't penetrate* *opponent laughs* *unscrews pommel and throws at opponent* *opponent is ended rightly*
@burritowyrm6530
5 жыл бұрын
TheArdanaut >fml pommel starts to overflex
@TrashDeviant
5 жыл бұрын
*tries to stab opponent* "Weird flex, but okay"
@jakerosen3251
7 жыл бұрын
Every time that you bend your sword past the elastic limit, when it takes on the bend, you will work harden the material, making it more and more brittle, eventually you'll bend it to show someone and the blade will snap in your hands.
@naderzein2435
7 жыл бұрын
Jake Rosen Hi fellow Engineer. Civil?
@jakerosen3251
7 жыл бұрын
Hello, nope Marine engineer!
@ShermanT.Potter
7 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the sword stayed bent as well, it makes me cringe. Simple principle, I use it to break low tensile fence wire on a regular basis when I don't have pliers. Or in a multitude of other applications. :)
@Cragified
4 жыл бұрын
@Ironclaw XII Point is you shouldn't be able to bend the blade that far. If it bends that much demonstrating the flex it will bend in use. Blade needs to be tempered again.
@CallipygianDrawings
7 жыл бұрын
gently play with the pommel if the blade is too floppy, that might make it more rigid.
@yetanotherrandomyoutubecha4382
6 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept
@sneaky5141
5 жыл бұрын
careful. you might end up with premature ending rightly
@keirfarnum6811
5 жыл бұрын
Wilson hare Stroke it gently at first, then more vigorously to achieve best effects.
@goncalobaia1574
3 жыл бұрын
Bruv
@fudgebrownie73
5 жыл бұрын
“Hmmm yess this sword is made out of sword”
@red_doggo7219
4 жыл бұрын
What a sharp observation.
@idkusername5789
4 жыл бұрын
The Archer class really is made of Archers!
@frankcastle4715
4 жыл бұрын
WhadalalonkaBadonkadonk
@Sugardaddy501
7 жыл бұрын
It needs a thick firm spine and should not be too floppy; if it is too floppy rub it some more.
@cxfives9023
7 жыл бұрын
the internet I knew something was wrong with this comment
@MedievalSolutions
7 жыл бұрын
I like how you call yourself "the internet"
@cxfives9023
7 жыл бұрын
Very fitting indeed
@martijnvanweele6204
7 жыл бұрын
Tightening the pommel also works sometimes, though many don't like the feeling.
@justanotherinternetexpert7743
7 жыл бұрын
i agree or slap the pommel. or try sticking a finger or two in its scabbard that works with mine sometimes.
@JustGrowingUp84
7 жыл бұрын
It seems that the Town Guard sidesword is one of the best swords you've acquired recently. *checks the link in the description and looks at the price* Oh, that explains it...
@Skallagrim
7 жыл бұрын
Indeed. :)
@webbedSpiders
7 жыл бұрын
Is anyone going to mention that when he was showing the rapier at around 6:20 that he... ACTUALLY bent the blade too far and warped it? Or was that from a previous accident? Either way, it's a bit of a shame to see a rather interesting piece have such a major flaw.
@nathanbritto568
7 жыл бұрын
Echoes Reverb yeah, he actually keeps trying to fix it after it
@willfrey1159
6 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that it wasn't just me that noticed it. Wasn't the only one he bent I counted another after that one, but there may be more near the beginning I wasn't looking for it then lol
@nicolaiveliki1409
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, the blade was bent past its elasticity point. I think it needs to be professionally straightened out and retempered to fix this
@RuneTrips
5 жыл бұрын
Lmao and he did the same kind of bend to the one that was "lent" to him. Good friend huh lol
@KazimierzRat
5 жыл бұрын
@@RuneTrips His friend gave it to him to demonstrate the flex, so that's expected anyways.
@oolooo
7 жыл бұрын
Sound problem right during the sexual innuendo .The Universe is against me .
@christiantarango2522
7 жыл бұрын
Elektro/PyrokineticChosenOne I got it too. I'm sure it's the video.
@scholagladiatoria
7 жыл бұрын
Great vid Skall - I was wincing seeing those blades getting bent though :-D
@Skallagrim
7 жыл бұрын
Can't blame you, it's terrible. That rapier is painfully frustrating... such a nice overall shape, great handling, and then the blade is a floppy noodle. Why Vladimir, why?
@gabriel300010
5 жыл бұрын
@@Skallagrim because context. noodles are very safe . worst you can get is cardiac arrest.
@thugnificent210
5 жыл бұрын
Dont get so bent out of shape no blades were harmed in the making of this video 😂😂
@bretnmannn
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skallagrim i have a ultimate off the wall question if you were to go camping in Grizzley Bear territory and could only have one sword? which would you pick? im thinking you would want penetration much more then cutting? please help with this true self defense ? thank you!
@Skallagrim
2 жыл бұрын
@@bretnmannn A sword against GRIZZLY BEARS? Sorry, I'm not suicidally foolish. :D
@jmvt3
7 жыл бұрын
Here's a metric you could use. Hold the sword horizontally and hang a kilogram weight on the tip. The distance it drops in centimeters is the flexibility. Edit: So a lot of people are saying that I forgot to take the sword's length into account, because a longer sword will drop more. But does that matter? The Blacksmith might want to know the flex of a given steel per length per width. However what we are taking about is the flex of the sword, not the sword's steel. So the this information is for the swordsman, and the swordsman is unlikely to change the length sword that often. Think of cars and acceleration. The salesman will tell you in how much time the car will go from 0-60 mph. But you might say that that method is flawed since if you change the car's mass you will change the car's acceleration. The manufacturer does need to know how the engine will cause the car to accelerate per unit of mass, but the customer does not require such information. All they need is how quickly this car will go from 0-60 mph. How mass of the car affects the engine's ability to accelerate is irrelevant to them. TL;DR- Yes length is a variable, but its a variable that doesn't change. So you don't need to take it into account.
@hjorturerlend
7 жыл бұрын
By Imperial decree, Ich hereby dub thize unit of measurement, ze "centiflex" x)
@mangoretheogre4178
7 жыл бұрын
beat me to it
@G1Bryce
7 жыл бұрын
Kawaiiser Wilhelm II Von Hohenzollern Fuck you you racist piece of shit.
@josefst2677
7 жыл бұрын
Mangore TheOgre wouldnt that be the Federkonstante
@hjorturerlend
7 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that idea from? o_O
@PogoMeraki
7 жыл бұрын
"Dear Skallagrim! My name is Barney and I'm a former member of the Familia Gladiatoria Pannonica, Europe's first gladiator reenactment group founded in Hungary in 1986. I am intimately familiar with The Scissor and I can also tell you what exactly it is and what it was used for. First, you need to understand is that gladiators had certain 'weapon classes'. You had the Secutor, the Myrmillo, the Retiarius et cetera. However, not all gladiators classes fought all gladiator classes. The matchups were custom, and different classes were matched against each other based on a number of things, partly historical-religious-spiritual, party simply what was entertaining to watch. The object in question was used by a class we called 'Scissor', so we adressed the combatant by this term, rather than his tool, but you could argue that we named the class after his tool, but regardless... The Scissor exclusively fought the Retiarius. And the Retiarius was the gladiator armed with the Trident-Dagger-Net trio. The Scissor was a fighter wearing heavy armor (lot's of chainmail) and had very few and very small target areas the trident wielding Retiarius could strike. He had a gladius as you said it yourself and the scissor itself. Against him, you had the Retiarius with next to no armor apart from a so called 'manica' which protected one arm and offered some minimal protection to the head and as I've mentioned, a trident, a dagger and a net. That was it. The role of the scissor was not a primary weapon meant to damage the retiarius (although it could be used as such in a pinch), rather, it was a tool to deprive the Retiarius of his net. We had a number of choreographies around this and it works really well, the net becomes almost entirely useless as soon as it touches the scissor itself. I cannot say how historically accurate this thesis is because I was just a fighter, my primary concern was doing choreographies or free-fight where I simply wanted to win (I was a Retiarius myself), but I do know that the event organisers and our leaders did research on the subject so we definitely hold 'some' historical credibility. I hope this cleared up your confusion about this unusual item, I will be the first to say that without a net in the picture it's pretty useless compared to a sword for example." - A guy (not me, mind you) commenting on your scissor weapon video.
@noelhann5262
4 жыл бұрын
Cole Lutscher I’ve wondered how dangerous gladiatorial fights actually were. There had to have been some danger, what with everyone having weapons and that, but if it was to dangerous, it would be super expensive. If half your gladiators die every match, how can you get experienced gladiators, or even keep up with the demand? So how dangerous were they really?
@TheSaberra
7 жыл бұрын
what's that you were holding on thumbnail? Some kind of a BDSM stuff?
@yuyanglim7693
7 жыл бұрын
TheSaberra a fencing rapier i believe
@glisero4043
7 жыл бұрын
TheSaberra Looks quite like it, doesn't it?
@dogestranding5047
7 жыл бұрын
yuyang lim What's a "fencing rapier"?
@JustNatax3
7 жыл бұрын
Bryan Wheelock GOOGLE helps.
@momololo3223
7 жыл бұрын
fencing rape?
@PatrickStannard
7 жыл бұрын
I spar with a hanwei 43" rapier on occasion when my Darkwood or Castille's are being used by other folks. While the flexibility doesn't effect a good thrust that much, once it comes in contact with another blade is is very easily manipulated by the opponent, and can throw off point control in the middle of a bout.
@ms4eji0bek
7 жыл бұрын
You can actually bypass a parry with a long, flexible rapier! When someone blocks, the tip plip-flops around the block and stings them right in the friggin eyeball!
@ChadKakashi
7 жыл бұрын
ms4eji0bek You would have to strike with the flat, and you would deal even less damage.
@Excalibur-je5pk
7 жыл бұрын
Alibey Bal but the stun effect is much better than damage. The opponent is closing their eyes or flinching therefore letting you bind their sword and get a fatal strike
@aanon4019
7 жыл бұрын
If you are looking to bypass a parry, you may as well just throw your pommel
@ihatetheantichrist193
7 жыл бұрын
+A Anon But that's a finishing move
@blueoceancorporations1019
6 жыл бұрын
ms4eji0bek Then they wil have a scar in their eye and the scar causes 14% pain all the time and makes people have -15 friedship with him because he is disfigured. Also you used the bionic eye on your sniper yesterday.
@MrFizzletn
7 жыл бұрын
3:18 just looks so horribly wrong. Internet what have I become?
@manuxalunx6522
6 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment
@bunathan2485
6 жыл бұрын
BattleFred I didnt notice it until now...
@AYAyayayaya987
5 жыл бұрын
@@manuxalunx6522 Yea me too xD
@weswolever7477
5 жыл бұрын
Ohhh....that’s nasty
@evn2787
4 жыл бұрын
especially the face he makes like he has been caught sharping his blade
@acada6594
7 жыл бұрын
When I worked in heat treatment company, we got swords from two different makers. Both of them used spring steel (not sure if the same). One used the rectangular profile and just grinded the shape out of it. Second one used the rod with circular cross-size and hammered the flat sword body out of it. Sword from the first maker were like springs after heat treatment. Swords from second one were flexible, but not as much. Older guys from the company confirmed, that when you forge the sword from the bigger chunk, it is more rigid than swords just grinded out from the flat piece.
@TrashDeviant
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, by repeatedly striking it with the hammer, you're actually squashing the molecules closer together. You increase its density which adds more rigidity. First crappy sword I made was two bits of corten welded together then heated with an oxy torch and roughly hammered to shape, then shaped more with a grinder, and it turned out rigid. I can't flex it even a little but its only a 18 inch Gladius style thing. I'm currently in the process of polishing and finishing it and then I want to try to make a nicer one. But I don't work at the same place and don't have access to those tools. So I might try setting up a small traditional style forge. But yes you are 100% correct. Beating the crap out of it with a hammer will make it stronger.
@HondoTrailside
Жыл бұрын
@@TrashDeviant That is a myth. I mean seriously, a hammer changes the molecular structure. Old wives tale. There is such a thing as work hardening, but that is a cold technique, and does not "pack" the steel either.
@HondoTrailside
Жыл бұрын
Generally anything you do does not make it stiffer. What does happen is the point of plastic deformation occurs at a higher load if the heat treatment was correctly applied. "Metallurgy Principles Why Doesn't Heat Treating Affect Steel "Flex?" March 13, 2018 Larrin One concept that can be difficult to understand intuitively is that the hardness or strength of steel does not change its stiffness." You can google that and get the full skinny. So much so that I saw one traditional Toledo sword maker, and he only heat treated the last 1/3rd of the sword. Or for that mater Samurais swords are only treated on a fraction of the edge. In the case of the Toledo rapier, The butt is stiff enough and strong enough to never bend past the point of plastic deformation, and it is not used to cut much (it would still cut and it might block better when soft). But the rate of bend in the point could cause a serious set on a strike so that flexible end bit needs to be hardened. Of course one could harden the whole blade and that would be great. But it is a lot easier to harden the equivalent of a fish filleting knife.
@Uncephalized
7 жыл бұрын
+Skallagrim, Of course you can quantify flex. (Distance of flex) / [(Force applied in flex direction) * (Distance from anchor point)]. Put the sword in a vice or clamp at the cross, with the blade parallel to the ground. Choose a point on the blade, and measure the distance to the floor (Df1) and to the cross (Dc). Now attach a known small weight (W) to that same point on the blade, and measure the distance to the floor again (Df2). Your "flexiness" f = (Df1 - Df2) / (W * Dc). Stiffness would be the reciprocal of that, s = 1/f = (W * Dc) / (Df1 - Df2). If you want one single number to give the best idea of overall flex, you should use the tip as your weight point, but you could also build a curve for a given sword by testing multiple points on the blade, if you wanted more detail--this would tell you if there are areas of the blade where the stiffness changes abruptly (which you generally don't want as that would tend to cause stress concentration and be a likely breaking point). This measurement is normalized by blade length, so it won't tell you what the sword will *feel* like in the thrust--it's a measure of stiffness *per unit length* of blade rather than for the whole sword. To get a good indicator of that you would want to still measure at the tip but eliminate the Dc term in the calculation, F = (Df1 - Df2) / W. That should get you a first-order approximation of an apples-to-apples index for perceived stiffness of swords of different lengths.
@frankenstein6677
5 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the time Gordon Ramsay was demonstrating a knife's flexibility and it snapped, flying towards the cameraman.
@jasonsoliva6678
7 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail makes me worried. If that was me flexing the sword like that I'd probably stab myself in the eye.
@PauloGarcia-sp5ws
7 жыл бұрын
I remember when you had only 20,000 subs. You make me feel old.
@C43P9
7 жыл бұрын
Reben Snow Same here, my friend... ^^
@PauloGarcia-sp5ws
7 жыл бұрын
J. K. props to the old boys ;)
@Skallagrim
7 жыл бұрын
Heh, it's been a while. Thanks for sticking around.
@C43P9
7 жыл бұрын
Skallagrim And I'm sure, all of us would do it again. Thanks for the time & afford you spend and always have spent to provide us good, informatial and entertaining content! Greetings from Germany (I hope, I haven't done to much grammar-mistakes, that were always my weak point... '^o^)
@automatedminer7158
7 жыл бұрын
Jesus I scared myself there when I checked the sub counter
@pedrogameprais7304
5 жыл бұрын
While you where on dates with girls, I was studying the blade
@oscarofastora7422
7 жыл бұрын
Who cares about the blade? We all know the real weapon is the pommel...
@oscarofastora7422
7 жыл бұрын
*hopefully skall doesn't hold a grudge* °~°
@fakinggenius5291
7 жыл бұрын
END THEM RIGHTLY!!!
@mrblack8447
7 жыл бұрын
Ok so I'm not usually a childish person but I can't stop laughing if you imagine he's running a sex ed class and replace any mention of swords/blades think about dicks xD
@smegskull
7 жыл бұрын
flex isn't subjective... it's just Young's modulus.
@michaeltraynor9388
5 жыл бұрын
The rapier that you sold your rifle for , stayed bent when you demonstrated it's flexibility. That's a shame. Looked like a great sword from where I'm sitting. Love your reviews and knowledge. Keep them coming.
@mischa3666
5 жыл бұрын
Weird flex but ok
@anotherrandomcommenter4473
5 жыл бұрын
6:28 lol you permanently bent it!
@RukaSubCh
7 жыл бұрын
Aren't Chinese martial arts swords supposed to be flexible ?
@azuregriffin1116
7 жыл бұрын
I have no idea.
@eerolehtonen7318
7 жыл бұрын
we may never know
@SlothIn3D
7 жыл бұрын
Ruka Erika im not sure
@jarrodong4430
7 жыл бұрын
i thought they were small :)
@epic0wnag
7 жыл бұрын
Ruka Erika modern wushu ones are completely historically inaccurate. Historical chinese would have a degree of flex but not like these modern steel ones.
@legrandfromage9682
7 жыл бұрын
Minor correction at 5:06: friction doesn't depend on area of contact surface. A narrower blade displaces less material though, so less force is exerted onto it, which is what accounts for the greater friction. Anyway, keep the videos coming Skal
@sephiroth952
7 жыл бұрын
Am I seeing it right on the Cervenka? It looks like you were actually able to bend the blade after flexing it. That seems pretty crazy.
@riicky83
7 жыл бұрын
From the looks of it the rapier you've shown at 5:48 the blade stays slightly bent after you flexed it.
@BespokeCarpentry
3 жыл бұрын
Try twisting the rapier when thrusting. I know nothing about swords, but from an outside perspective, it might stop some of the flex and make it able to actually use to force being applied to it.
@PlaceBotox
7 жыл бұрын
The opening statement, you know us so well Skall.
@sgtblades2829
7 жыл бұрын
so the question is... have you had a chance to test the flex on antique/historical pieces to compare against their modern counterparts? ( I know museum curators frown upon doing this kind of thing to their collection)
@straba3976
7 жыл бұрын
Rapier have a lot of fexibility because it was made for pierce under the rib cage and flex to pierce the hearth. It was a technic mainly used in French duel
@alonsoaceves3524
7 жыл бұрын
as a former fencing student, every time you flexed the rapier i was cringing because i thought it would break
@kevinshepardson1628
7 жыл бұрын
There are actually quantifiable measurements of stiffness/flexibility out there. For example, the "spine" (i.e. stiffness) of arrows is checked by at least some high-performance archers, who know what "spine" or range thereof is correct for their bow. I would presume that a similar measurement method could be developed for swords, though it would obviously need to account for blade length. For example, the sword is braced a specific distance from the guard and point, then a specified force is applied halfway between the support points - measure how much deflection that load produces, and compare it to the distance between the supports (or measure the angle of the resultant bend), and you'd have your number.
@justanotherinternetexpert7743
7 жыл бұрын
great video. i like that u actually educate us on the weapons instead on just review them and test them. the history behind them, and the different qualities of similar weapon. very cool thank u.
@morganoliviero5101
7 жыл бұрын
The FIE has a stiffness metric for olympic fencing blades. With the blade being a standard length of 90cm, it is clamped 70cm from the tip. A 200g weight is attached cm from the tip, and the distance from weighted rest to unweighted rest is measured at the tip, in millimetres. The required variance is established by armourers depending on the weapon. So I would suggest skalla could do the same (probably with a heavier weight) with swords he knows are "right" and then let us all know.
@Norilius
7 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about evolution of armor ?
@igno3798
5 жыл бұрын
Hello! I don't know how many you know about olympical fencing,but the reason behind flexing blade is 2 important things(as i know) the first: These swords must be flexible coz they made to slice with it(similar like a whip) the second reason is(it's not really a reason,just worth mentioning) in these times the swordsman's had an off-hand dagger weapon,behind their back.As i know the rapier just wounded(they strike with it like a whip,as is said) the enemy,then they stab him/her with the off-hand dagger. Also sorry for my english,i'm Hungarian.
@igno3798
5 жыл бұрын
Oh and i almost forget. The rapier blade was a light blade,and this means a lot in the battlefield.Of course, you can fight with a Claymore,but it's lot heavier than a rapier. Btw the rapier is a really difficult weapon,you must have to pair the strength with mobility.Thats why in this era duelists was Masters of this blades.(like french, italian,spain rapier masters)
@alllan5968
7 жыл бұрын
That kind of over flexible rapière could make sense in a duel, just to draw blood without severe injuries.
@levifontaine8186
6 жыл бұрын
Rapier duels were generally fought to the death. And also, they were used more for self defense, battlefield use. And if you want to not kill but draw blood, use a weak cut and not a thrust, as thrusts are much harder to treat as a wound.
@immort4730
6 жыл бұрын
Levi Fontaine Not French duels
@jaymiddleton1782
5 жыл бұрын
0:40 cutting swords can be floppy. There’s a type of Chinese dao which is incredibly floppy - it’s designed to be. It is used in a very nice piece of choreography in the opening scene of the second Drunken Master movie, I think it’s called the Legend of the Drunken Master.
@aurourus6894
7 жыл бұрын
I changed my medicine, it's working better and i'm not high anymore. Thanks Skall.
@sancheenull420
4 жыл бұрын
3:48 slapping that pummel real good now Skall.
@feedux6570
7 жыл бұрын
I've been practicing kendo for a couple years now and I was wondering because sometimes in a fight you might have to block but why can't you kick so my question is was kicking ever used in fights and how practical would it be???
@christopherdunn8767
6 жыл бұрын
Feedux Potentially quite practical, depending on the weapons involved. Try searching "Harnischfechten", German armoured swordsmanship. Lots of unarmed attacks and general pragmatic fighting in there.
@Mystifax
6 жыл бұрын
Afaik there is a way to measure flex, it's called "Shear modulus" and it defines "flex" of a certain material. However it doesn't really account for the overall structure of the blade.
@jeffreysmith2775
7 жыл бұрын
Psshhh...buy and review an Urumi! No problem with flexibility there.
@gonndalfderblaue6449
7 жыл бұрын
Have some fun with testcutting your self.
@jeffreysmith2775
7 жыл бұрын
There are so many Asian weapons that are more dangerous to the user than anyone else (if you don't know how to use it)
@Wavemaninawe
7 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Smith Half swording an urumi?
@OldSchoolGenius
7 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Smith nunchuck? i dont know how many time i hit myself in the head with that one as a kid.
@roceb5009
7 жыл бұрын
I'm under the impression that in the very late medieval period, for civilian rapiers, the high end swordsmiths would demonstrate how much their swords could bend without breaking, possibly back to touch the blade or hilt. however, that's different than being "wobbly" like you're showing presumably it would have taken some doing to actually bend the sword like that, and it probably wouldn't spring back to shape, the point just being that the blade is good enough it won't snap. I have no source for this besides "someone once told me" but it's just something I thought I'd mention
@ruim2495
7 жыл бұрын
There's a type of Chinese sword,it is so flexible,you can wear it as a belt,so it's a kind of a hidden weapon,usually used by assassins,especially female assassins.
@ruim2495
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah,you can find this type of blade in many Chinese movies.
@Darksky1001able
6 жыл бұрын
Rui M Thought it was from India originally.
@chrisdeatherage2772
6 жыл бұрын
Jackie chan’s belt sword
@jackhudner3804
6 жыл бұрын
Darksky1001able You're probably thinking of the urumi, which IS an Indian weapon. Urumi were supposedly practical, other than the fact that the weapon takes a ridiculous amount of skill to use.
@kevinmcthoy4589
7 жыл бұрын
I know that in the SCA they measure flex as a one oz weight on the end of the blade and a specific drop in elevation.
@mcglubbinfishworth3370
7 жыл бұрын
Have you tried turning the pommel on and off again?
@Blaisem
7 жыл бұрын
Not a physicist by any means, but I'm not sure that a narrow blade implies better penetration. Once you've perforated the material (depending on the pointiness of the blade tip), I think further insertion shouldn't be hampered much by friction, kind of like how once you get your car rolling you can push it with your bare hands pretty easily. On the contrary, a blade less narrow will have more mass and apply more force to achieve the initial penetration and thus apply more thrusting force. It won't be as fast or controllable due to its weight like a narrow blade though, which means that in real combat sacrificing raw thrusting power in order to gain speed so your opponent can't defend, or control of the thrust to maintain power when you lunge with an outstretched arm, might be worthwhile. And certainly there could be a point of diminishing returns here. I don't know how big and heavy blades could get, but obviously if it's so heavy/long you can't wield it with sufficient speed to direct the thrust, then it will start becoming less effective at thrusting.
@toomdog
3 жыл бұрын
The engineer in me wishes to point out that you can apply a known force along the axis of the blade and measure how much deflection is produced to quantify the flexibility of a blade. Things like the modulus of elasticity (if known) and moment of inertia of a cross-section will also tell you a lot about the flexibility of a blade. It absolutely blew my mind when you flexed that rapier and it took a set. That is TOO soft.
@newtonianlaw3249
5 жыл бұрын
OK as someone that is just getting into Skallagrim's channel, the first couple of episodes that I watched were very hard to get into, but as I watched more of his content, it had became very apparent that he is very knowledgeable and passionate about his content, which is great, but is it all sword and armour reviews?
@ondrejh571
7 жыл бұрын
Hello, i think you could easily measure the flex by securing the sword horizontally at the grip and hang some specific weight on it at the tip. Then just measure the distance the tip moves downwards and you will have a comparison.
@josefst2677
7 жыл бұрын
Ondřej H but a longer blade would flex more because it has a bigger lever
@ondrejh571
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that's what happens when you thrust. Longer blade will alway be more difficult to make as stiff as the shorter one, but that's the price for the lenght... Maybe to better test the flexing when performing a cut, one should hang the weight at the center of percussion. But from what I've seen recently, that's not necessarily the best place to cut with + it also shortens your reach.
@SKy_the_Thunder
7 жыл бұрын
I'd rather say measure the degrees between the direction the tip is pointing and the axis the grip is secured in under certain levels of force. Using that the thrusting longsword from the beginning would have a flex rating somewhere around 5, maybe 10, while the floppy rapier is 180+
@ondrejh571
7 жыл бұрын
I think that measuring the distance is easier and more precise, due to problems with different distribution of flex of different blades, and by that a different curvature. If you measure just the distance, you have a valid information of average amount of flex through entire blade. But when you measure the degree of the tip direction, than more floppy sword can get away with smaller angle at the tip. Btw,, when you secure the sword horizontally, it cannot flex by weight hanging more than 90° ... ;-)
@virgosintellect
4 жыл бұрын
Cold Steel Smallsword is very rigid and a few minutes with a belt sander, can put a pair slashing edges along the frontal quarter of the blade. It can also be blued, except for the nickel and stainless wire handle. Melting wax into the wire wrap gives better grip and was a custom preference of George Washington.
@Burningnewt
7 жыл бұрын
if it is a dueling rapier then more flexibility could be good. duels were fought to first blood, so a blade rigid enough to impale is unnecessary, and it allows you to get flick cuts with the blade tip
@369ZIR
7 жыл бұрын
"It's not going to pierce as far as a stiffer blade". Yep I hear that.
@thadeusstalter4651
6 жыл бұрын
Just for reference, a lot of the modern rapier blades are used for fencing and live combat, so they have a lot of bend to keep from hurting your opponent. This is because you are supposed to hit your opponent and not kill them.
@puddingat4am145
6 жыл бұрын
Glad someone said it. Blade flexibility is not a sign of low quality but of good function and safety.
@HenryZheng-qj8cs
Жыл бұрын
True. But, all of the swords that skall mentioned in this video are specifically NOT training swords. They are meant to be reproductions of and act like real weapons.
@seppstarthebest
6 жыл бұрын
so swords nowadays are like vegetables - beautiful but use-/taste-less ;) standard flexibility test: mount the sword horizontally put a certain weight (1kg?) on the tip or in certain distance to the handle (60cm?). mount a board behind this measuring rack and draw a line underneath each sword you measured
@aboodhemedi236
7 жыл бұрын
slap dat pommel
@dwightehowell8179
7 жыл бұрын
My Chinese sword breaker sold by Cold Steel is kind of odd. It looks like a stabber and does that well but it is stiff as all get out and is apparently meant to be used like a mace except you can shove it through objects like cardboard with ease. A human that tried to catch/block the blade would be in a world of hurt. Hitting the edge ofa shield would most likely knock it aside and while the mass makes it a bit slow for a sword it would tend to knock other swords aside leaving their user open to a thrust. Interesting weapon.
@adamp3223
5 жыл бұрын
Good and interesting, but watching you bend and flex those swords just puts my nerves o edge, man. So nervous
@red_doggo7219
4 жыл бұрын
If you're dueling only to first blood I think you'd use a really flexible blade because it won't penetrate as well as a stiff blade. I'm not an expert it just seems like that's the case.
@generalseal6948
5 жыл бұрын
When swords get to flexible they become more like metal whips
@elijahthornburgh6251
4 жыл бұрын
What if there was a steel so strong that when completely hardened to it wouldn't bend yet it wont snap under pressure would that be the best sword possible?
@Talishar
3 жыл бұрын
No. While you'd have a very strong sword, it wouldn't be very tough and would become fairly dangerous. The flexing/bending is a good warning to the user that you're pushing things too far and you need to back off. Without any bending at all, you wouldn't know you're exceeding the sword's ability until it blew up in your hands and you're now entirely defenseless. Even katanas, which are known to be hardened a lot more than your average European sword, will bend before outright breaking. Though they usually aren't spring tempered so they won't bounce back when they bend but at least they won't entirely, catastrophically fail either without warning. This is actually what the cheap stainless steel swords tend to do. You play around with them and they generally give no warning or bend. They'll just snap on you and you'll be holding pieces of a blade.
@harrylane4
5 жыл бұрын
"You dont want it to be flopping all over the place" *urumi has entered the chat*
@rodrigokiefe3850
7 жыл бұрын
fricton is not a function of area btw. what changes in a narrower sword is the amount of preassure it gives. preassure is the amount of force over an area. so the smaller the area of impact, the bigger the preassure it gives
@stumbling
7 жыл бұрын
*intro plays* "… Flexibility is quite important for sword blades, particularly for your peen…" Well, I didn't last long! xD
@Elliot1949
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this interesting and highly educational video!!
@caperdz9553
7 жыл бұрын
That's why the pommel is a way better weapon! It never flex! :D
@BrazGuitaPlayer
7 жыл бұрын
I wish that they made a unit to calculate flexibility and make this stuff easier to the makers of such blades.. The "skall" seems a good name ^^
@Killing_Edge
7 жыл бұрын
End them rightly
@electricboogeyman5855
7 жыл бұрын
maybe it's a practice sword for thrusting. when you showed your thrust slow mos, you were not linear causing the bend. kinda like hand sawing wood. a steel saw is flexible and will flop around as much as that sword will when it snags and binds. this happens because your wrist isn't rigid ruining the linear push. just my 2 cents. I enjoy your channel.
@FaDe587
7 жыл бұрын
Were thrusting swords designed to be thrusted into bone though? You said yourself stabbing soft tissue is not an issue even with an overly flexible blade. So you can still pierce skin easily, right? So if the blade is flexing a lot when you hit bone (maybe say ribs) it could potentially flex just enough to basically "jump" around the bone and pierce in between. Wouldn't that be desirable? I mean, after all you want to kill, not break bones. Breaking bones helps, but stabbing internal organs or even hearts was probably a death sentence in medieval ages. It's an entirely different story if we start taking armor into consideration though...
@CairnOwO
7 жыл бұрын
Vorax "Ah, you stabbed me in the heart. I'm probably going to die"
@aanon4019
7 жыл бұрын
as far as I can tell from these vids, the point seems to mostly stay in place while the rest of the blade flexes as he tries to push further in, so not sure how well it would jump, idk tho
@joseph8684
6 жыл бұрын
Even hearts
@faolan1686
7 жыл бұрын
The amount of "flex" (elastic deformation) is dictated by the geometry, not the hardness. The temper dictates how fat it can bend before it takes a set (plastic deformation) and how much plastic deformation it can take before it fails. All steel have the same modules of elasticity of between 200 and 210 GPa. The modules of rigidity is determined by the shape. This can be quantitied mathematically and could be a property of a sword for sale purposes.
@MrBiggins9999
7 жыл бұрын
The audio messed up a bit at the beginning
@badluckbrian46
7 жыл бұрын
ive learned in physics this year that in theory the amount of surface that touches something is irrelevant for the amount of friction. all that matters is the mass of something :)
@clandestin011
7 жыл бұрын
there actually is a unit for flexibility, it's called young's modulus. look it up
@ricardcharbonier7167
5 жыл бұрын
A new knife review or update would be cool.
@TheCoolanter
7 жыл бұрын
Did you see that dab at 9:55?
@Ryhano
7 жыл бұрын
I'm liking this shit
@adamburke652
3 жыл бұрын
Nice swords and I love those swords
@bernardo0330
7 жыл бұрын
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7 жыл бұрын
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7 жыл бұрын
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@evandempsey7613
7 жыл бұрын
3,717 views ... nice.
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7 жыл бұрын
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7 жыл бұрын
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@user_name_redacted
5 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that most flexible blades were more designed for duelling where killing the opponent wasn't the intention, perhaps like a fencing honour duel or a high-risk sport like old German academic fencing etc.
@giratinaswrath9902
7 жыл бұрын
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@thomaskelly9315
7 жыл бұрын
These rapiers are designed to be that flexible for safety reasons. It lets you spar without having to pull your blows for more authentic looking stage fights and such.
@thomasesr
7 жыл бұрын
in metal and materials, engineers refer to the flexibility as "elastic deformation" or the amount a material can deform and get back to its original state. So, if you look for the specific technical details of some industrial grade metal you can find out and quantify the "elastic deformation" coefficient of the material, but obviously it will change if you work it and temper the metal.
@vsm1456
6 жыл бұрын
that's not the only thing you'd want to know. one of the swords he showed goes beyond elastic phase to plastic deformation
@petersmythe6462
7 жыл бұрын
New reason to add physics in video games. Excessively jiggly sswords
@Lunumbrus
7 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or was Vladimir's rapier blade taking a set bend? That's 100% not OK. :/ I hope you didn't buy the sword with the expectation that it be functional. I mean, shit. Putting an edge on a blunt flexy blade...doesn't make it a functional blade. Wouldn't want my name associated with that shit.
@140boomer
7 жыл бұрын
You saw that bend too?
@alistarcyprian5690
5 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Triangular Cross section blades are illegal in warfare, due to the oddly shaped wound it makes being hard to mend.
@gonndalfderblaue6449
7 жыл бұрын
Damn, did that Rapier stay a bit bend?
@kravcio
7 жыл бұрын
Gönndalf der Blaue happens with softer steel
@alejandroochoa559
4 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video, but as a civil engineer I must say that you can definitely quantify flexibility. It is very similar to spring stiffness, but rather than being compression/tension flexibility (modulus of elasticity) it is bending flexibility. There are equations that use the modulus of elasticity, moment of inertia, and length to calculate a stiffness factor often referred to as k (force per unit of displacement). The inverse of stiffness is flexibility (displacement per unit of force).
@alejandroochoa559
4 жыл бұрын
Your video shows two bending cases: bending due to a moment (when you bend the sword with your hands) and bending due to compression instability aka buckling (when you thrust and the sword bends). The response of the material to both forms of bending are derived from the same material and geometric properties, but the actual behavior under bending or buckling are distinct from each other.
@onelowerlight
7 жыл бұрын
What about modern fencing? Don't they use more flexible blades?
@OfficialGamingPeople
7 жыл бұрын
Joe Vasicek That's because it's not meant to simulate actual duels.
@RickTrajan
7 жыл бұрын
Joe Vasicek maybe they don't intent to kill opponents
@TheComedicPCGamer
7 жыл бұрын
RickTrajan ah man.. that's boring
@rainbowdash9388
6 жыл бұрын
SickBangerzM9 if it was too rigid, it would cause injuries. Besides, the fencing blades are rather stiff, and the strength of the fencer's wrist is what makes it flop like a TV antenna.
@HelixMaster12
6 жыл бұрын
We do, but we don't need to pierce flesh well.
@adamstapleton9756
7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is true but it seems to me that rapiers during a certain era were meant to be that flexible to reduce the lethality in duels as many civilians wore them for fashion and defense.
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