I don’t know I am the Neptune person and it’s the Sun person who has been making me very uneasy and suspicious of their motives and intentions.
@therosebrigade
Жыл бұрын
This here. For me, the sun person has sun square neptune natally and very neptunian. I am not neptunian at all. I am plutonic, saturnian and uranic so neptune always seems like a dreamy liar to me.
@butterwings1403
3 ай бұрын
Same here😢
@lora3996
3 жыл бұрын
Oof this finally explains everything. Run for the hills if you are the Sun person. I've had the semi-square and this resonated word for word.
@jolliepoussey9
2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO!!
@vokosvokos8987
Жыл бұрын
Having this aspect and being the sun person is like willingly taking the risk , and taking the dangerous path, knowing there will be consequences, knowing you’ll be taken advantage of but still wanting to go there like a blind lamb and at the same time thinking to yourself “what am I doing?”
@sodapop83
Жыл бұрын
i disagree
@ShadaeMastersAstrology
Жыл бұрын
@@sodapop83 What are your perspectives about this aspect?
@Supported32320
Жыл бұрын
@@ShadaeMastersAstrology for me i felt absolutely NONE of what you described. i was the sun person and i had no idea he was everything he was. i never felt like i just knew i was going to be taken advantage of or thought to myself what am i doing. just doesn't resonate
@regishaiba
Жыл бұрын
The Sun of the relationship, needs to know exactly the direction he is going, ALWAYS. Neptune just lives the distant life being carried to and fro by outside influences like the Moon or the Wind. Neptune is considered the Ocean, the Sea. The Ocean can always make fun of the Sun "You can't turn me to smoke" But remember, the Sun always rises above the Sea, its not the nature of the Sun to burn or to destroy anything, it gives life to everything BELOW it, the Sun never touches the Sea and is never in danger of being swallowed up by the Sea, never.
@themoonbleu627
8 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@rarecoral212
2 жыл бұрын
I am the Neptune person here. Infact the sun person is very delusional lying not trustworthy at all. I am being very authentic and honest in this relationship but the sun person not sincere..
@user-dn3dm1kb8y
Жыл бұрын
No u just THINK they're not sincere and making things more complicated
@ShadaeMastersAstrology
11 ай бұрын
@@user-dn3dm1kb8y 😭 lol
@Alicia-cq9si
6 ай бұрын
Just putting it out there that a friend in high school got pregnant nearly 30 years ago now and they are still together. I have no idea what their relationship is like, but they appear to have it really good. Very supportive of one another and always having a good time. They have a 5-degree square and 4.5-degree conjunction, so it's a double whammy. They also have other Neptune hard aspects.
@jenniferbutera1866
2 жыл бұрын
I know someone who had this placement with her now ex. He was 15 years older, addicted to drugs, ex con, and physically abusive. All of us friends were like wtf r u doing????? This is scary and crazy! Leave! Anyway, she didnt until he locked her in a bedroom and beat her up. Cops came and put him in jail and that was the end of that Sun sq Neptune relationship.
@suzisuzim50
2 жыл бұрын
May I ask which one was the neptune and which one was the sun? 😊
@juhi9290
2 жыл бұрын
who was the Neptune & sun person??
@jenniferbutera1866
2 жыл бұрын
The abusive man was the Neptune person, my friend who got beat up was the sun person. I should also add my friend has 4 planets in pisces… she is neptunium herself
@alicehagsss111
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly in my time of studying charts (both well known people and personal people), this is the hottest mess aspect in synastry I've ever seen. I think it's something about the aspect of a square itself - the Neptune just degrades, dissolves and quickly erases the Sun person's ego. Really weird stuff, I don't like seeing this one
@JewelMayberry
3 жыл бұрын
I might agree with you.
@MimiTheHamster
2 жыл бұрын
I have sun conjunct neptune and uranus natal, as well as pluto conjunct ascendant, square saturn and a retrograde mars. Life fucking blows, literally wish I was dead lol
@signatureblonde5956
2 жыл бұрын
In what way
@realdavidjones1623
2 жыл бұрын
@@MimiTheHamster please don't say that, there is always hope!!
@blessed507
Жыл бұрын
@@realdavidjones1623 typical comment related to Sun/Neptune square....interesting...
@oliviamiller1178
7 ай бұрын
I actually gasped when you said age difference this is terrifyingly accurate😭
@alexisvcc3354
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, perfect as always! Giving testimony I had this with 2 important people, in both I was the sun. In the first case it was exactly what you say in this video, I over-idealized it, I felt that he was slightly flirtatious, not strong, but I always felt that something was wrong Inside that bubble, I keep my distance, I didn't like spending time in the same place as him even though it attracted me. In the second case, I was also the sun, but I am sure that I always saw him as he really was, I never idealized him, therefore I did not feel extremely in love, only attracted by his body (other aspects), in this case I could say that I always felt a little bad because I felt that I was hiding something from him, and I do have a secret that I would not like him to know, the reason for hiding it is because of what you say, maybe I am deceiving him, but it is not intentional. Also, I always felt that this boy's ego vanished or was almost completely blurred when I passed in front of him.
@bluejaylene
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex B. 😊 What do you mean the second guy’s ego vanished/blurred?
@beaa2018
2 жыл бұрын
This is so true. I was also the sun person and couldn’t be around the Neptune because I didn’t trust him at all! I’d always look for a way out when we interacted, at the same time I was very attracted to him
@honeybee7473
2 жыл бұрын
I had this aspect with someone. As the Sun person I can say this aspect absolutely sucks. I'm not interested. Lol. I actually have Sun square Neptune natally to a wide degree. So I have this aspect with everyone my age to several years younger than me. I definitely think the Neptune person can take advantage of this, unless they're aware of it and stop themself. Most people I meet who I have this aspect with I want to be friends with, but that somehow feels unattainable. I could tell when a particular person took this aspect to their advantage to tear me down. It definitely depends on the individuals' chart and their own Neptune, but for me this is a deal breaker. I don't have any interest being close to a person who is pretending to be someone they are not when they're with me. Also, it's interesting that you mentioned the age difference. Although I have this aspect with many people my age it really only seemed significant with people who were further from my age. I think age difference and being in a different place in life creates a type of mysticism that plays a role with Neptune.
@sodapop83
Жыл бұрын
i agree. i have it natal and also with a "friend"... no more, the opposite actually, i had to slowly realize she never considered me a friend but was a hanger on slowly taking my projects from me
@sofialuna6210
Жыл бұрын
I have this aspect natally, too. And I'm just so sick of getting into relationships with people my age and then realizing that we were not seeing things clearly at all. Either start projecting whatever they want onto me, or I start seeing them on this overidealized light that doesn't actually allow me to see them clearly. It just feels like a lose-lose scenario all the time. I wonder if it would get better or worse with partners who are older than me.
@Supported32320
Жыл бұрын
I think age difference and being in a different place in life creates a type of mysticism that plays a role with Neptune. bingo
@ferajade8899
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I was the Sun he the Neptune who happened to be hiding in the closet yet blamed me for the issues.
@qwertyJ94
2 жыл бұрын
Had this an ex - they were neptune and I was the sun. I checked our synastry now after being broken up to see. Ha, lo and behold. She lied about her age and about sooo many things to "impress" me. The most hurtful and toxic situation I was in
@alexstar5182
11 ай бұрын
Why do you care about the age if u love her. Its just a number.
@qwertyJ94
11 ай бұрын
@@alexstar5182 it's not about the age, it's about the LIE. That's a massive deal breaker for me..dishonesty. and that seems to be a theme with hard Neptune aspects.
@xuan5469
2 жыл бұрын
Hmm interesting. I am Neptune; he is Sun... he is also like 4 years younger than me. I definitely can see ways in which is naive, and sometimes I'd think to myself, "Damn, I could really do x and he probably wouldn't call me out on it because he doesn't know how it usually goes." But I hold myself back on acting on that because I actually care about him as a person, and I feel somewhat honored by being able to teach him a lot of things I know.
@tragimelody
14 күн бұрын
No experience of mine is unique it seems. 😂 I (female), Neptune, am 4 years older than the Sun (male).
@vokosvokos8987
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful channel, just wonderful that I found your videos!
@sofialuna6210
Жыл бұрын
I have this aspect natally, which means that I have this aspect with my whole generation. And to make matters worse, if I dated someone older in order to avoid this aspect, then their Neptune would form a square to my Ascendant. It just feels like a loose-loose situation, to be honest.
@dieLiebeDeinesLebens
6 ай бұрын
or an invitation to rise above its hardships... And an affirmation that you can do it, because otherwise, you wouldn't be in this situation. Although that probably doesn't help, because it is still hard (have that aspect, too).
@shereadsshescries1457
3 жыл бұрын
Progressing into it, or out of it, with yourself, is also a relationship. Those born with it, outgrow it in progression. Some, at some point in their lives, progress into it, sounds like it would be sports car and much younger wife for guys who suddenly find themselves with progressed Sun square Neptune. Like a rosecolored glasses situation where age is lost and you Neptune-beam yourself into I'm 30, while you are 30 older than 30.
@broadbeans13
3 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Got tangled in this double whammy, so Sun sq Nep on both sides. While I was having a mid-life Neptune square with the transit Neptune also making an opposite to his Sun. I still have no idea what went on now but suffice to say it was a colossal disappointment.It's interesting what the transiting planets were doing when we met as it amplified that neptunian vibe. We also met the day Mars conjunct Pluto, and that was another synastry aspect we had.
@zeezee990
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is interesting.. Lol.. I'm the Neptune and I'm not doing anything dishonest.. Lol.. but I do study Astrology, so I'm more self aware and that possibly makes the Sun feel uncomfortable.. however the orb is really large.. like 9 degrees
@Rosa-jt8up
2 жыл бұрын
I am in the same position as you. I as the Neptue person am straightforward honest to the other person from the very beginning, because unconsciously I felt that urge to be as open as possible. He noticed that too. I admire this person very much. You have to work on a square a lot, it's possible! But we have a huge age difference too. The orb is over 15 degrees, so perhaps it's not relevant enough anyway...
@yteu7198
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rosa-jt8up if the orb is 15 degrees it s a square aspect?
@regishaiba
Жыл бұрын
Having Sun square Neptune synastry, exactly 0.03° it is just terrible. It feels like you are alone in the Desert with the Devil. I dont know how the Neptune person feels, but both of us have Sun square Neptune in both Natal charts. I think she feel the same damn thing about me.
@amymccormick6568
2 жыл бұрын
I had this one with someone. The Neptune person was a total hanger on. As the sun person, my ego, resources, opinions, and agenda was highlighted too much. The Neptune person would say whatever they could to try to tap into the sun energy. Sometimes they would fake an illness, sometimes they would need help, sometimes they would fake superficial romanticism, often times they would automatically agree with everything I would say to appear we were on the same page. It was a lot of disappointments with them saying something, but not delivering. It was a huge turn off, and really did feel degrading, because it felt desperate on both ends. I lost all respect for the Neptune person, lost respect for myself, and I think deep down it was mutual for the Neptune person.
@Supported32320
Жыл бұрын
mine was a capricorn sun who had mercury square moon at that. a lot of our other placements were beautiful so i wasn't able to see it for a very long time but he just wanted me around so he could try and tap into who i was. he told me plenty of times over the course of the relationship that he wished he were like me. his style of music changed because of me. he got into astrology because of me. i found out he was going into groups of people and telling them all MY ideas and acting like it was just knowledge he studied and knew. i was disgusted. he also did several other disgusting things like tell his family he was giving me money and that's why he was broke even though he slowly started decreasing his hours at work because he just didn't want to go. he did just enough to lure me back in and was always manipulative. in the end, he told me he wanted me to hate him. i don't hate him, i just think he's pathetic.
@d.d.1397
2 ай бұрын
I have this rn with the guy I’m dating. I’m Neptune he’s sun. He is soooooo into me and overly giving and it def feels overwhelming to me at times. This man would do anything for me which intrigues me but also leaves me wondering if it’s just a projected fantasy? Like an idealization almost. Which u just confirmed lol
@als6156
3 жыл бұрын
i adore your haircut!
@therosebrigade
Жыл бұрын
I mean it makes sense. If we think of neptune as a generations ideals, and sun as a the ego and essential self...it essentially means that the sun person is NOT the neptunians true ideal. I had sun square neptune with someone who has it natally. I was the neptune person and it was the SUN who was delusional. Aries sun SQUARE capricorn moon. For me as neptune, it felt like I dreamt of my dream saturnian wife. At first, it appeared as the the sun was neptune. But it turned out that there ego is SQUARE my neptunian ideal. That's why neptune squares suck, it basically means what you're dreaming of conflicts with what is actually there. Once you know that you simply decide if you want to settle or not. I don't settle, so I don't like neptune squares. A neptune conjunction is more dangerious because on some level that person IS your ideal.
@tragimelody
14 күн бұрын
Moments like this make me confident in the truth of astrology, it's scary how accurate it is... I'm the Neptune in the connection, and quite a bit older... It's a frustrating eternal courtship. I keep rejecting the Sun person but then I think about him all the time and wish he'd come back and try harder. I know he is not good for me but I still want him to want me. Being his fantasy is sooo appealing to me but the real thing just doesn't work. Spooky!
@maikaraerueti1040
3 жыл бұрын
How wide of a degree would you allow with this aspect?
@juulblood
2 жыл бұрын
I had this aspect with my ex. I was the sun and he was neptune. He was very verbally abusive, always screaming at me and insulting me. He almost became physical with it multiple times. He would constantly accuse me of cheating on him which made me suspicious of him cheating on me. Honestly just a horrible relationship. I take accountability for ignoring the red flags though. Also, we had a 9 1/2 year age gap.
@Supported32320
Жыл бұрын
idk that that was the neptune sun correlation but i could totally see how neptune square sun could confuse the relationship and make someone want to stay in that because they misunderstood the parameters of the relationship, or misunderstood the other person. the anger and abusive probably had something to do with mars or pluto or a messed up mercury
@tatianamaldonado5624
2 жыл бұрын
Im the neptune person in this situation and as attracted as i am to the sun person, something about him gives me the ick. We wont speak for months and then he’ll randomly text me at 3am, then ask me why im awake. As silly as that is, something in me says “I dont think anything good is gonna come from this.” And 90% of the time he’ll want me to come over in the middle of the night, which i never have. I feel like he’s lying about how nonchalant he is in relationships. Judging by how irrational he became when he found out his ex was pregnant and in a new relationship…i feel like he can be very jealous and possessive, which wont fly with me. (He’s a taurus, im a gemini)
@angelenergy7818
2 жыл бұрын
The reason he’s so hot and cold is because he’s a Taurus as well. I have the same “issues” with a Taurus man and we have sun square Neptune as well.
@tatianamaldonado5624
2 жыл бұрын
@@angelenergy7818 ugh isnt it frustrating? Like the second i finally feel like im over the inconsistency in communication, he texts me at 3am. 😑
@angelenergy7818
2 жыл бұрын
@@tatianamaldonado5624 you should watch the KZitem channel called “I’m possible” she made like 8 videos talking about Taurus men and her experiences with them. And how to “catch” them. They are a very interesting sign lol I thought I’ve dated the hardest signs but they are by far the hardest but once you get them they will never let go.
@tatianamaldonado5624
2 жыл бұрын
@@angelenergy7818 I’ve watched her playlist On them lmao. What she says is super accurate but im kinda turned off by only getting texted at 3am lol
@angelenergy7818
2 жыл бұрын
@@tatianamaldonado5624 yeah I don’t blame you. That’s definitely not ok and not something to put up with if you want something serious with someone. :( I know it probably hurts if you really like him.
@elizabethnicole8303
Жыл бұрын
Whoever has heavy neptunian in their dominant planet I would say their more deceptive in their ways
@MimiTheHamster
2 жыл бұрын
So I don’t completely agree with this. I am natal sun conjunct neptune and uranus. Met a guy with sun square neptune and uranus. So my neptune would be square his sun, his neptune conjunct miy sun, implying he would have suffered deception at my hands. But it was completely opposite. He betrayed and deceived me. He led me on calling me a soul ate, sexually assaulted me, and maybe because of my sun neptune aspect, as well as normal trauma response, i froze and was under the spell of Stockholm syndrome which kept me from seeking help sooner. It devestated me, I’ve been betrayed a lot to the point it’s a running gag but this was especially disgusting. So no, the neptune person in the square isn’t necessarily always the perpetrator. I did nothing misleading to him, I probably am the ideal lover in many ways because I’m almost too naive and eager to please in the past. My heart is too broken now that now I keep my distance from everyone while pining for someone to love me for me and not for my looks or something superficial and sexual. It’s not fair :,(
@themoonbleu627
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry this happened
@kssgpv
Жыл бұрын
That's why I'm feminist, this is the reality for many women..
@Tapp_Red
2 жыл бұрын
I have this aspect with a cousin. I am the sun person. She comes from my side of the family that I was not raised around and that lives in a different state. I did not meet any of these people until I was in my 20's and she was the first and acted as the gateway to the rest of the family. At first she seemed very intelligent and rational. Add to that that I tend to be gullible, taking people at face value and giving them the benefit of any doubt I may have. Found out later that she had a tremendous amount of jealousy toward me. She ran me down to the rest of the family behind my back. She would smile at my face and tear me apart behind my back (she has a stellium of 4 planets in Scorpio) and then somehow make the rest of the family choose between a relationship with me or her. They all chose her. I haven't spoken to any of these people in years. Gradually they all deleted me off social media too.
@Supported32320
Жыл бұрын
well idk your situation or whatever but i didnt have this with a family member yet i still resonate with some of it. this person got some of the worst karma of their life and the best of it is yet to come. so i wouldn't worry about it if i were you. when people do you like that you're the one who benefits in the long-run. after all, they're the ones who are envious of YOU.
@jennya1682
2 жыл бұрын
I either have a sun/nep Venus/nep opposition with people up to 10 years younger or a square up to 10 years older - does that mean I’m meant to be disillusioned in love? Geez
@Dr_DMT
3 жыл бұрын
At 5:02, you say there’s typically a big age difference? Anyone know why this might be? I’ve found this true with two different partners in my life
@28viv76
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe because Neptune/12 house is at the back of the sun?
@Dr_DMT
2 жыл бұрын
@@28viv76 what do you mean by at the back of the sun?
@28viv76
2 жыл бұрын
I mean sun is far away from the neptune, so I'm guessing that explains the age gap
@yteu7198
2 жыл бұрын
@@28viv76 ahhh its make sense
@okayokay2484
2 жыл бұрын
I have this on my natal chart , so I basically have this connection with the people my age
@candice446
Жыл бұрын
Me and my ex BOTH had this lol. We argued everyday. The break up was so messy and traumatic.
@jazzbieber321
3 жыл бұрын
)))))): have this aspect with my partner (sun) and it’s giving me (Neptune) constant anxiety
@orangeblossoms88
Жыл бұрын
Man.. I met someone who literally feels like my soulmate and we have this double whammy, mercury as well. We are both aries sun, aries mercury, his moon is aries and so is my mars 😂😂😂 I wonder how this will play out when in theory we should be so alike
@DanaNunez-cartasdesabiduria
6 ай бұрын
How did the relationship turn out?
@orangeblossoms88
4 ай бұрын
@@DanaNunez-cartasdesabiduria We are married 🤣
@doublevenusastro
3 жыл бұрын
What about the semi-square? Had that with someone I was very taken with and there was a large age gap (I was the Sun).
@mintyworld
3 жыл бұрын
Would you put this aspect as a dealbreaker?
@rarecoral212
2 жыл бұрын
My personal experience is hard aspects to neptune even soft aspects are very delusional.. someone’s Neptune aspects our personal planets or vice versa are the most sweet and dreamy experiences one may experience as one has found the ideal partner or soul mate.. but so much going on under the surface so many lies and deception.. rebound like relationships come into play with these aspects.. Pluto aspects are harsh aspects one can feel other trying to manipulate .. but neptune aspects are too good to be true..
@philippawallacedunlop9393
Жыл бұрын
Great reading, thank you
@abondancefreedom3869
11 ай бұрын
There is no possibilities that this aspect could be good ?
@flamingbliss6998
3 жыл бұрын
Love your hair 😍
@tmyoshimura621
3 жыл бұрын
Oh my,
@aasthasinhaclips1984
2 жыл бұрын
Who feel this more neptune person or planet person
@Freeasabirdnow
6 ай бұрын
The sun is abusive verbally... Humiliating, silent, manipulative and not free at all. Our both Neptune square is Sun. I've never treated him bad but it's over.
@chironpallas
3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@soulcontrolyoga4527
2 жыл бұрын
what If both people have this
@thestoneyloveshow7270
2 ай бұрын
I’m the sun person 9 year age different and it’s wild crazy but I know something off
@Starstorm111
5 ай бұрын
How would this work in a friendship? We have this DW… I appreciate her very much but we are both very unsettled when we are together… I’m a woman also..
@INFJ4tress
Ай бұрын
Me too with female friend not DW but me Neptune, she sun. Very unsettling but reverse negative than Jewel is describing. She sun is mistrustful, suspicious, critical of me almost relentlessly, she is wearing down my ego, not the other way around. Plus she has natal sun square Neptune and I have no sun Neptune contacts. I’d look at your mercury and moon contacts to shed more light on uneasiness. Also mars/saturn, moon/saturn.
@mlj1309
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Jewel. Is the biquintile any better?
@The_Eleventh_Sign
3 жыл бұрын
Can you do neptune trine moon in synastry?
@miriamuSama
2 жыл бұрын
Im Neptune,, he isr The Sun
@abigailliss5430
2 жыл бұрын
I have this double with someone. My Neptune squares his sun and vice versa. Maybe that balances it out 🤣
@Natacha1111
Жыл бұрын
Same here. How is that for you? Btw, are you both artistic? That really could help that aspect I feel like
@CarmenBelcher
3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and have this with my crush 🥲. His sun on my Neptune and he definitely doesn’t say a word. I guess this is why
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