Synology clearly jumping to SMB-Enterprise, as most home users likely to adopt cloud storage solutions for media, surveillance, at least as they understand, I think AI will boost demand for home servers not for storage but for running LLM locally with privacy, for surveillance Synology proposal is attractive for syno-fans but expensive and not as featured and easy to deploy as solutions from dahua/Hikvision.
@leonelantonio36
3 ай бұрын
Damn I want a new rev of the ds620 slim
@JoseAngelAcostaEngineering
3 ай бұрын
@@leonelantonio36 Synology really miss an big hit not selling an prosuemer all flash FS based on DS620slim it would put one of these at almost each home or office with an Mac Studio
@companyoflosers
3 ай бұрын
I guess they are okay with the likes of ugreen taking over the home and small business market with their lack of offerings for that area and lack of competitive price/performance.
@makatron
3 ай бұрын
Ugreen is getting my business regardless where I can use any drive without being forced to purchase any specific brand.
@garydeluce464
3 ай бұрын
My only hangup is the custom kernel from a chinese company.
@makatron
3 ай бұрын
@@garydeluce464 I thought you could install your own os
@makatron
3 ай бұрын
@@garydeluce464 can't we put our own OS?
@blcjck8121
3 ай бұрын
Which would all be fine and dandy, IF they had an OS getting anywhere near the level of DSM. If that were the case, from any of the competitors really, I'd have left Synology's skanky ass in the dirt a long time ago.
@guyvanhout3093
3 ай бұрын
those fuckers synology took our money and said thank you all to support us and now drop us like we are no more good for them ! thank you synology !
@Ultrajamz
3 ай бұрын
Still feel like something is going to drop this year for 5-8 bay desktop units, notice the 1522+ and 1821+ aren’t in stock on amazon (as if there is a pause before the new models come into play)
@ShaneMcGrath.
3 ай бұрын
Agree, They have had the 8 bay enterprise DS1823XS+ version out for a while, Surely the consumer version can't be too far, A DS1824+ end of year maybe?
@PaulForeman-indievisuals
3 ай бұрын
Why does the computex void look like you are laid on the bathroom floor 😂
@VenomKen
3 ай бұрын
Their current business practices means they are a no buy decision.
@cynicallyskeptic4295
3 ай бұрын
I was hoping for a refresh on the 8 bay 1821+. Maybe they still will. I also understand the big money is in mid to large corporate solutions so maybe they just focused on that and will still do a refresh for us small prosumers.
@smstnitc
3 ай бұрын
We did get a DS1823xs+. I wouldn't be surprised if that's all we will see for another year or two. TBH I don't think we need a refresh for the non-xs model. It would just be more of the same right now.
@ZoneProduction448
3 ай бұрын
My next NAS upgrade will be a UGREEN 😊
@KangCQ
3 ай бұрын
100% CPU usage😅
@Chrsly
3 ай бұрын
Would be great to have them making it available outside the US
@RespectedDesperado
3 ай бұрын
@KangCQ why? What do you mean?
@bothorsen4292
3 ай бұрын
In my business we have a RS1221+ and that's enough to handle the backups and a couple of dockers images we don't want to deploy in our on site kubernetes cluster. I am looking at upgrading it, though, and I'm looking at the RS2821+ as a good place to go. But it's just too old now. And it's the same for the RS4021xs+ which would also be an option. It bugs me that they don't have any upgrades for what used to be their core business but seem completely focused on new areas - this is generally not a good sign for a business, whether it is for them or not remains to be seen. Sure, a new RS2824+ (and all the other models that should be updated) isn't very sexy, but it is overdue - not doing it is a sad statement in itself.
@pamelawhitfield4570
3 ай бұрын
So business-friendly that I'm still waiting for Active Backup for Business to support Debian 12 that was released a year ago. Being so far behind the notoriously slow Debian release cycle takes some serious neglect.....
@noggan
3 ай бұрын
How to kill your product in 2024 slap a subscription on top. I buy equipment annually for roughly 450k and I'm fed up with all subscriptions. I want to own my own infrastructure.
@Kellysnorthshore
3 ай бұрын
UGH! I need a proper DROBO replacement. A DAS that’s USB 3.2Gen 2 or Thunderbolt 3 or 4 speeds and able to swap out drives as you needed to increase the storage pool. If there is a solution out there I have missed it! Love the coverage, Thanks!
@johna2640
3 ай бұрын
It's probably time to move on from synology for home, im due for drive upgrades so will take the opportunity to build my own nas, been checking the videos here, many excellent suggestions
@clipperbob960
3 ай бұрын
ZFS
@johna2640
3 ай бұрын
@@clipperbob960 I remember OpenSolaris :)
@ckckck12
3 ай бұрын
To me, all this tech is a bet on a high AI invested world and user dependence on corporate Enterprise services. CCTV and insanely high end massive server stacks.
@JimboLodisC
3 ай бұрын
I've been watching this channel for months debating on a DIY build or just getting a Synology, but was waiting to see some new models, dunno how much longer I'll wait for them to release a new 4 or 5 bay, was really hoping my first NAS would be running DSM
@ruanth
6 күн бұрын
I'm in the same position as you, it's a shame cause I know a few people. who are waiting for newer models. Their offerings are seriously lacking
@JimboLodisC
5 күн бұрын
@@ruanth I ended up going DIY, and glad I did even though I put about twice the money into it (although I've got wayyyy better hardware than a DS923+), and Synology is removing features from their OS and also being too restrictive with the memory/storage options
@ruanth
5 күн бұрын
@@JimboLodisC do you mind sharing your build? specifically what case you ended up using? one of the main issues I have is picking a case with hotswappable trays
@JimboLodisC
3 күн бұрын
@@ruanth when I saw the new Jonsbo N5 case teased, I knew that's probably what I would end up with, but I got antsy and just used a spare case I had leftover that a friend gave me, it's just a normal small desktop case, no trays, I'm only using 3 HDD's currently as I'm just starting out but once I get more drives and the N5 case comes out, I'll likely make the switch
@JimboLodisC
3 күн бұрын
@@ruanth as far as the internals, I got a Q670 mini-ITX motherboard for $224 from Amazon, my CPU is an i5-13500T for $169 plus tax and it came with a huge cooler for it, then you just need RAM, a PSU, cables, and your drives
@epsig1507
3 ай бұрын
6:08 man that was scary
@ChipLinck
3 ай бұрын
I'm happy to see more cameras. I'm slowly migrating most of my camera fleet (no more Chinese cameras) to Synology. I'm disappointed that they don't have a PTZ yet. I've been very pleased with the image quality and AI features of their cameras. I recently had to replace a dead 4 bay, and got a DS1821+ . I had been waiting for the next 8 bay DS+ to come out, but fate didn't let me. They still haven't replaced it yet. So, I don't feel so bad.
@BigBenAdv
3 ай бұрын
It's nice to see that they're finally expanding to the enterprise space. Hopefully they do not mess up the roadmap and properly test their features before release rather than to pull the plug after the fact. I've been bitten once when deploying an additional RS2818RP+ for a customer back in 2020 where the first unit supported 200TB volume (if the memory was upgraded, which we did) but the second unit didn't because Synology silently removed support for volumes exceeding 108TB in their DSM updates without any notifications. They didn't indicate this change in any release notes or changelogs and we only found out when we had tried to deploy the 2nd unit 6 months later. Their support email response literally just amounted to "Welp... We removed the support for larger volumes because there may be some performance issues; good luck" - thankfully, we could still manually create and format the volume via SSH.
@kryistianbroce
3 ай бұрын
I was really hopping for nvme for home
@smplfyi
3 ай бұрын
The trouble dear Mr Synology (or QNAP for example) is that the established Large enterprise storage vendors have decades of experience in their market segment and have done the things you are just providing now, for ever. So why would I choose you? I think you should stick to home user, soho/ super techy user and small business.
@mwahlert
3 ай бұрын
I agree. There is no large scale enterprise that is going to suddenly drop NetApp, Dell, Hitachi, VAST, Pure, HPE and buy Synology. When Synology says “enterprise” they mean medium large businesses at best.
@alphaomega5017
Ай бұрын
Synology has left home users
@Ultrajamz
3 ай бұрын
I had a feeling new cameras were coming considering how low stock the initial ones were.
@ckckck12
3 ай бұрын
If we were hoping to see DS1825+ and Synology walks away from us, what do you recommend? Home built?
@Ultrajamz
3 ай бұрын
I would personally lean towards truenas or unraid if I was to leave synology. Don’t trust the other companies so may as well have full freedom then.
@ckckck12
3 ай бұрын
@@Ultrajamz which one would allow me to set up four drives in raid 10, migrate my data, then add four more drives to the same volume?
@pelle7771
3 ай бұрын
Synology is not for consumers any more. I could kick myself for changing from QNAP to Synology.
@carlos_mann
3 ай бұрын
I'm interested in picking up the ds 1821+ and upgrading to 10 gb port and renewed 22 tb seagate ironwolf hhd and using the ssd for cache. It'll be primarily used as a media storage pool (mp3s and mp4s files will take up roughly 70 tb) What would that be the best decision? This is my first Nas purchase, and I have been following your channel for a while now. I feel like you're the best to ask as a professional who's unbiased.
@MrOzyreusz
3 ай бұрын
ds1525+ ???
@Ultrajamz
3 ай бұрын
If we’re lucky they just drop that without much fan fare later this year. Probably not a huge upgrade is my guess by the way they are handling it.
@JonathanSwiftUK
3 ай бұрын
I think these are rebadged, the storage would be Seagate, and the switch will be rebadged Cisco or similar. Even the HPE MSA and Dell ME4 are Seagate-based, HPE and others modify the storage management software, features and brand it their own. I'm concerned that Synology constantly falls behind on hardware, with poor excuses for the lack of 2.5gb, 5gb as standard, and rely on improvements in software to carry them, software good, hardware poor.
@InspectorGadget2014
3 ай бұрын
So, in short, no (hardware) refresh for the consumer nor promuser nor SMB from Synology. (for the moment?) And they are aiming for enterprise more & more, so it seems. Plus (optional) subscriptions. (to me a personal a rabbit-hole I try to avoid, but inevitable nowadays, where you own nothing) I am an enterprise user but to date I really have not seen appealing arguments that would make me re-consider Synology, sorry! I will watch their stream(s) to find out more details. But I guess no golden nuggets from Synology.
@InspectorGadget2014
3 ай бұрын
Yep, it seems they are full-fledge aiming at enterprise and leaving the lower tears, i.e. consumer, pro-user and SMB to the other vendors. I guess when you had those aforementioned markets for a longer time and now the competition (UGreen and the likes) are ramping-up, you step-out and don't go into that battle. Which is unfortunate for those who support the Synology brand for so long, expecting improvements, direction and development for future endeavours into that arena. I do hope for those it is not the end of the road, but to me that future does look bleek. Unless Synology comes with some kind of statement, announcement, anything for the assurances to the existing customers. If Synology stays silent in that arena for a long(er) time, I do expect that to be the signal I'm not that far off from my "predictions". Will be sad, nonetheless. Strategy is nothing without intuition!
@InspectorGadget2014
3 ай бұрын
Just seen QNAP's (UK) video presentation, it puts more shame on Synology's current direction IMHO. Unless Synology does indeed show something soon for their home- and SMB users. But to me that seems very bleakly. If I was a Synology user, I would start be worried, or at least starting to feel a wee bit upset.
@Noodles.FreeUkraine
3 ай бұрын
20 Petabytes, sounds like an ideal solution for my Plex needs. 😁 Does it come with integrated graphics, though? 🤔
@nascompares
3 ай бұрын
Yes, but only if you order the blue model
@Noodles.FreeUkraine
3 ай бұрын
@@nascompares 😂👍
@TazzSmk
3 ай бұрын
offloading AI to third-party isn't really a problem, I can easily run LLM locally on a PC/server, definitely more secure/private solution than going some (paid) online service, and easier to scale out than proprietary in-the-box solution
@MrMoonsilver
3 ай бұрын
Can you use locally hosted LLMs for the AI? The whole idea to have a Synology is to have my data private.
@nascompares
3 ай бұрын
Synology doesn't provide a AI/LLM etc, you have to add your own (chatgpt, Google Gemini etc) via an API key
@Saintel
3 ай бұрын
Looking more and more like Apple with it's lighting cables. Why can't I use my own hard drives Synology?
@Dextermorga
3 ай бұрын
You can It will work
@CapitanHarlockisback
3 ай бұрын
No new small business nases?😢
@ckckck12
3 ай бұрын
Grab your ankles. I have a feeling they see the AI wave coming and will lean into it so far that we DS series users will be lost like a fart in the wind.
@mattreynolds3747
3 ай бұрын
I was hoping to see a RAID SSD Beestation or similar….
@bjorksven
3 ай бұрын
Ok, time to look around for another brand.
@mattreynolds3747
3 ай бұрын
Was waiting for this!!
@meibing4912
3 ай бұрын
Seems very weak. They need to shape up.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
3 ай бұрын
Synology to SOHO users: "you didn't like our underpowered overpriced hw, our vendor-lock aspirations, our substandard client software? Well f u, we don't need you, have a nice day!"
@derred723
3 ай бұрын
qnap been the front runner for a couple years now for my nas. I don't see that changing soon. I'm a regular consumer maybe prosumer, and I'm not synology's target customer I don't think.
@Noodles.FreeUkraine
3 ай бұрын
Oh, you were. Before they lost the plot.
@dab42bridges80
3 ай бұрын
Who's designing these? Look like A/C units from the 50s...
@zu5295
3 ай бұрын
Long live the 1821+ 😂
@jasperverkroost
3 ай бұрын
918+ here :-)
@ThePaulpope
3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry Synology is about to find out what real competition is like.... the fact they think they can go toe to toe with enterprise level vendors is showing me they are utterly delusional. Looks like they dumped on their user base to go in other uncharted directions .... Hello Asustor
@StaceySchroederCanada
3 ай бұрын
Synology can't talk about their prosumer products because it's a very competitive market. The new intel and amd product line will have a hard impact on what's to come. There are more than enough enterprise and consumers out there that Synology won't want to lose. They have to be quiet until release date. It's just smart business tbh.
@pelle7771
3 ай бұрын
I don't think so. They are going away from the consumer market. They make some minor updates for their products but are Not investing in it.
@jasperverkroost
3 ай бұрын
I understand what you're saying, but if that's true they risk losing a lot of customers in a competitive market. The least they could do is to say "Expect new models late 2024" or whenever they will be released.
@milesaharrison
3 ай бұрын
Can you please clean your phone/camera lenses before filming. Every time you take your phone out to record someting, wipe the lens on your trousers/sleeve. 95% of this video looks like it's filmed with an inch of Vaseline on the lens!
@djheckler92
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, but disappointing as prosumer. Was hoping for a DS1825+, but if doesn't come soon will look at other options. Nice to see a 4K camera but prefer turrets.
@Doppelherz
3 ай бұрын
did it feel like there was a gap in the exhibition where small business NAS solutions could have been presented? I could imagine that Synology is rethinking their upcomming devices on the hardware side due to the emerging competition.
@nob4131
3 ай бұрын
Good morning when would come the new 924+, is it expected in 2024 or 2025?
@whya2ndaccount
3 ай бұрын
1:14: Is that a Synology branded switch above the GS6200 label?
@nascompares
3 ай бұрын
Yes, but it's limited to that series and not separately for sale (I asked....sadly)
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