That was a hell of a car and I'm a Petty guy . Funny how Earnhardt won all those races ( with NASCAR bending the rules for him and GM ) and nobody ever questions that .
@terrycrotts2522
Жыл бұрын
He was the biggest crybaby in nascar along with Darrel waltrip! They gave gm everything and took away from ford! They couldn’t stand a bunch of Georgia boys whipping their ass
@rcnut5112
Жыл бұрын
Daytona was better
@carlbuschman
Жыл бұрын
I don't watch NASCAR anymore, ten years fuck their bias redneck territory.
@donjennings9034
5 ай бұрын
I can remember when Chevrolet re-introduced the Monte Carlo in NASCAR, I believe it was around 1995. It didn't fit the template, so France and his GM cohorts decided that rather than make Chevy work to change the car, they just changed the template. Since the car had better aerodynamics than the template, they had better air flow. So unfair. They've ruined NASCAR.
@rdc121674
11 жыл бұрын
That was one of the fastest cars I have ever seen. They ran some unofficial lap times upwards of 217.00 mph with Jody Leslie in testing. They flat crushed em at Daytona that February. NASCAR was mad as hell. I loved it. A bunch of country boys with a Ford T-Bird. pissed on the GM party that was NASCAR and still is. They did not use a qualifying engine either. The engine they qualified with was the engine they ran in the race. That was unheard of back then as well.
@sludge4125
4 жыл бұрын
That driver wouldn’t be Jody Ridley, would it?
@cavemanballistics6338
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to. Burst your bubble, the engine they won with was a short track motor for Bristol. They broke a valve spring in practice so Gary Dingler drove back to Dawsonville Ga. and brought back the motor that won the race. But you are right they pissed of the GM boy’s.
@arkhsm
2 жыл бұрын
That engine deserved its own cup !!
@Redneck_Ed
2 жыл бұрын
@@cavemanballistics6338 I think rdc121674 is talking about 1985 February Daytona race when he mentions the qualifying engine being used for the race.
@cavemanballistics6338
2 жыл бұрын
@@Redneck_Ed Thanks for pointing that out. You are Correct.
@mtdewandal
12 жыл бұрын
That was when NASCAR was worth watching.
@darthbuster
2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@87flyerfan
Жыл бұрын
How was it? That was awesome bit honestly boring when 1 car could totally dominate. I'd rather watch now and see it in the driver's hands not the car
@douglorimer5985
Жыл бұрын
Typical Chevy guy. He would rather see a competitive race where everybody is bumper to bumper,and Chevy wins 🤣
@mattjohnston7686
4 жыл бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen, THATS FORD POWER
@catonthemoon2084
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Chevy guy but I have seen Fords haul ass & totally dominate kudos to Bill he was awesome. Nascars best years.
@jerenythurston6502
5 жыл бұрын
Normally its boring to watch someone dominate but none could keep thier eyes off this guy back in the day! I believe that car is in the book of world records as the fastest recorded lap
@samiam9008
5 жыл бұрын
Ernie's power house engines .. Bill as smooth as anyone .......... #9
@fordknutt
4 жыл бұрын
That's why they call him "Awesome Bill from Dawsonville"! Still the fastest NASCAR driver EVER to this day!
@TheFokker03
4 жыл бұрын
indeed.the 'dega record stay's with him at 212.809mph.
@eddiedawkins19
3 жыл бұрын
Bullshit fake illegal and rigged racing...nascar has always been this way...I have proof
@eddiedawkins19
3 жыл бұрын
Obvious proof, in your face obvious
@ONTHEEDGEFRED
3 жыл бұрын
@@eddiedawkins19 Back then not nearly as much, it has built to a point today that I would absolutely agree with you about today's nascar.
@terrycrotts2522
Жыл бұрын
@@eddiedawkins19where’s your proof pal! You haven’t convinced a single person yet!
@zapcos80
2 жыл бұрын
1985 Daytona... Burned into my brain. I watched on tv... The most impressive showing I ever witnessed. Every green flag in that race, the Elliots left the rest of the racing world in the dust.
@louswire
12 жыл бұрын
As Roger Penske once said..."There's no advantage, like an unfair advantage." The major speed secret was in the cylinder heads, and brother Ernie wasn't about to let Ford anywhere near those heads for any amount of money...
@danielright2044
4 жыл бұрын
Yes the heads AND pistons AND the cam...the high swirl "soft head" combination plus the aerodynamic work done by Endyn and the genius Larry Widmer, uses smaller ports and camshaft, a unique design for the piston with super-high compression which makes unheard of efficiencies, even the exhaust temperatures are hundreds of degrees cooler!
@cavemanballistics6338
4 жыл бұрын
The speed secret was getting air to the engine when it was in the car. They made no more power than any other team, the difference was they worked harder to get the same power when the engine was in the car as it made on the Dyno.
@youcanbesmartaskhow3857
3 жыл бұрын
@@cavemanballistics6338 that seems to be a more realistic explanation. For the record.
@richardthompson6366
2 жыл бұрын
The advantage is having a driver that can go fast and keep it on the track.
@pughoneycutt1986
2 жыл бұрын
Why in the hell don't some one post more of this race than 5 minutes?one of the greatest events in nascar history and all any body ever shows is smoking into the pits and passing for the lead, I want to see the whole dam race!! Oh that's right he pissed on the g m show that nascar always wanted
@jameshoran8
3 жыл бұрын
He was turning 44 second laps. Awesome Bill from Dawsonville. Plates were what you ate off of then.
@fredmarquez7599
5 жыл бұрын
I remember that car that year loved it
@weedy1dad4
11 жыл бұрын
16 years most popular driver awesome bill from Dawsonville
@mrs3533
4 жыл бұрын
I was at this race in person, when he came in smoking I thought he was finished, I was wrong, he was averaging laps over 205+ when running down the field, all under green , no cautions, AWESOME!
@knobdikker
2 жыл бұрын
Faster than 205. Read his autobiography. He said that he ran many laps faster than his qualifying speed and that was 209.398 mph
@dangarrison3503
2 жыл бұрын
205mph was his average. That means that car at times was running close to 215.
@knobdikker
2 жыл бұрын
@@dangarrison3503 No doubt! Bill hauling ass that day with an Ernie Elliott rocket engine! Cleveland heads with canted valves for the win!
@helluvatime4562
Жыл бұрын
I was there also, it was awesome. I was only 12 but my older brother worked for Benny Parsons, not on his race team another venture. We went to Talladega and Atlanta race every year. RIP Wally I miss you bro.
@tonymyers7498
Жыл бұрын
This is #2 on the top 10 Talladega moments ? What is number 1 ?.....
@winst0n888
3 жыл бұрын
Bill Elliot and the Coors Ford was the greatest ever.
@ShyteKreek46
3 жыл бұрын
Ernie Elliott had built a hell of an engine for his brother that day!!
@TheFokker03
4 жыл бұрын
and Bill holds a record that will never ever be beaten.In qualifying for The Winston 500 at Talladega in '87,Elliott's Thunderbird was clocked at 212.809 mph.The following year,restrictor plates were mandated so cars would not go far beyond 200mph.
@Brutis-1983
4 жыл бұрын
Notice how the packed stands.
@rondyechannel1399
5 жыл бұрын
Yep, loved it all, and am building a 1986 Thunderbird with a 600hp. 351 Cleveland , lowered suspension, side pipes, Arrow race wheels faux NASCAR street driver. Get 'er done out on the open road!
@OneEye.
5 жыл бұрын
Great I want to see it out on the open road, Nevada Open Road Challenge or Silver State Classic Challenge. 90 or 121 miles of two lane at triple digit speeds, Legally.
@ChrisfromGeorgia
4 жыл бұрын
@Ron Dye Channel Did you ever build the 600hp1986 T-Bird?
@terrycrotts2522
Жыл бұрын
I do know that the ford gt has turned the fastest speed ever recorded on a long stretch of road! Over 300 miles per hour!
@imanaxbert6620
7 жыл бұрын
How in the world was this total flogging not the #1 Taladega moment?
@derekd8142
7 жыл бұрын
Because the restrictor plates have made every finish at that track epic
@rcnut5112
6 жыл бұрын
Because Nascar loves Dale not Bill Elliott. Go Bill
@Machi74005
6 жыл бұрын
derek d Restrictor plates have made every race at that track and others suck.
@struggle4all
5 жыл бұрын
The #1 moment was when Bill set the speed record at 212mph there at that time.
@da324
5 жыл бұрын
@@struggle4all The number 1 moment was when DE went from 18th to win in the final two laps.
@mchernandez7172
10 жыл бұрын
Awesome Bill from Dawsonville! Hell yeah
@clipobserver
3 жыл бұрын
It still amazes me why he didn't win the 1985 title. He won 39 percent of the races that year.
@donbarker433
3 жыл бұрын
He sucked at short tracks...no consistancy
@pughoneycutt1986
2 жыл бұрын
They didn't win the championship because nascar kept changing the rules and they had to expend a lot of time scrambling to overcome the latest changes while the bowtie bregaid didn't
@randyvinson7928
4 жыл бұрын
those Ford's were fast and NASCAR hated it it was so clear but look at NASCAR now Oct 2019 what a joke and they did it to them selves.
@rdc121674
10 жыл бұрын
They also had to continuously overcome NASCAR's constant changing of the rules to try and hurt there performance. It was the greatest thing I have ever seen in racing.!!!!! Especially to hear Richard Childress and Earnhardt crying every week
@Machi74005
9 жыл бұрын
LOL. I remember that as well. They were having the #9 raise the heighth of the car, cut fender skirting, this and that. It was something different every week to mess with them and Elliot just kept beating them no matter what they did to him.
@LT1HILLINGHOE
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Earnhardt and Childress were crying so much when they were winning more championships and more races than crybaby elliot did. Get real, fanboy.
@bigrooster6893
7 жыл бұрын
Dale always bitched and cried about the rules.
@LT1HILLINGHOE
7 жыл бұрын
No, he didn't. Nascar went to him for his opinions because he was the leader and the most popular. He was the go to man.
@bigrooster6893
7 жыл бұрын
You must have not watched a lot of NASCAR he always bitch and complain about the rules when a different manufactor had a little advantage he would always bitch about it. NASCAR didn't go to him for advice about rules they would go to the car owners.
@dsboli
2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons they were so strong is, while most of the other big teams thought they could build better engines/cars than the engineers from Detroit, the Elliott's accepted the offer to collaborate with them. They put their egos aside.
@miguelbarrero5572
2 жыл бұрын
Because of Bill Elliott and his Coors Ford Thunderbird I became a Nascar fan in 1985 😃😃
@knobdikker
2 жыл бұрын
351 Cleveland Engine with Ernie Elliott magic pumping out 700HP when everyone else had maybe a little over 500. After he passed for the lead, he lifted off the gas going into the corners while everyone else had it flat on the floorboard! Kyle Petty saw that happening by seeing the small puff of exhaust when he'd hit the corners! That's how much more HP he had than the others!
@mattwedemeyer9269
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome bill from Dawsonville to me there was nobody better
@bigpapa2392
3 жыл бұрын
My stepfather and I were at this race. Won both race pools Had Elliot in both. Man those guys were mad 😂😂
@mattjohnston7686
5 жыл бұрын
THATS JUST GOOD OLD, FORD POWER!
@derbagger22
5 жыл бұрын
Umm, no. It was the revolutionary design of the aerodynamic Thunderbird. When the Pontiac and Chevy Aerocoupes came out the next year, that advantage went away...
@toddjohnson7133
4 жыл бұрын
@@derbagger22 Umm, no. By then NASCAR had realized that aerodynamics were not going to put the first gen SBC designed in 1954 on an equal footing with the 1968 Cleveland headed Ford. They tightened up on the Ford heads while allowing Brodex, Dart and Canfield to make any SBC head modification they could to try to even the playing field. No one appreciates the BOP rules more than GM.
@fyafighter1
7 жыл бұрын
Their is a big reason Awesome Bill is and always will be a Fan fav. if you see him in public he doesn't blow you off, 1985 Martinsville Va ... Mackies's steak house (at the time best restraunt in town) Petty Crew took up the only private room , Bill sits with his manager at a table with eveyone else right in the front.. and told his manager off for try to stop fans from coming to the table; he talked to anyone that knew who he was
@bigrooster6893
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that story I'm 36 and he will always be my favorite driver it's really awesome getting to watch his son race now it makes me interested in NASCAR again.
@waynegouin939
5 жыл бұрын
AWSOME BILL!!
@drc1981
12 жыл бұрын
that's the problem with fans today; they think everything that happened 5 minutes ago was the greatest moment of all time. What Bill Elliott did in this race IS much more impressive than anything you have seen in nascar in the last decade plus; Lucky dogs and all that nonsense make it way too easy to make up a lap. Bill Elliott had to earn it with pure speed and driving. Oh, and did I mention that was all done under green?
@Machi74005
6 жыл бұрын
drc1981 As much of an Elliott fan as I was I really do not believe he was that exceptional of a driver. He was lucky he had a car with superior arrodynamics and BIG horsepower. I remember when Chevtards cried about how "unfair" it was. It was not unfair. It was technologically superior. Period.
@seaLIFFY
13 жыл бұрын
AWESOME BILL FROM DAWESONVILLE!!! i been to the pool hall a few times : )
@breakawaymotorsports
4 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Ernie Elliott. Unsung hero. Cambered rear end would give Bill the edge needed. Illegal? Ha! Innovation..what is sorely missing in todays cookie cutter Nascar...
@jacko241
10 ай бұрын
That's what it says in his book, and I believe they did have a cambered rear end. However, it is hard to believe that something like could make that much of a difference at a place like Talledega. There just had to be more to the story. By the way, I am a diehard Bill Elliot fan.
@Machi74005
12 жыл бұрын
Very true. I was 18 years old that year and followed it like a hawk. They had him raising the car an inch here an inch there....heck it didn't matter. Bill blowed their doors off week in and week out.
@fatriani
12 жыл бұрын
he wouldve lapped the field 3 times if he didnt have that oil problem at the beginning. thats how dominant that '85 thunderbird was
@ONTHEEDGEFRED
3 жыл бұрын
Well it seems that way, I don't think he would have. He would have never run that car that hard if he hadn't gotten down that far.
@youcanbesmartaskhow3857
3 жыл бұрын
@@ONTHEEDGEFRED more accurate to say he 'could' have. Possibly. But old Gearheads know they run the best right before they blow!!
@ONTHEEDGEFRED
3 жыл бұрын
@@youcanbesmartaskhow3857 I'm not so much a gear head, but, I've heard that saying many times myself, not only with race cars, but, with just about any engine in any vehicle. I could be wrong but I felt like I used the most accurate word that could be applied. If you're saying that the only reason the car ran that well was because the engine was about to blow up, then that then that must have been the case at least a dozen times that year.
@youcanbesmartaskhow3857
3 жыл бұрын
@@ONTHEEDGEFRED no I was more 'correcting' the guy who said he would've lapped em 3 times lol. I was just throwing in the possibility that that engine was churning out a swan song. But I also wouldn't doubt he could have done it!!!
@ONTHEEDGEFRED
3 жыл бұрын
@@youcanbesmartaskhow3857 Alrighty then, it's all good man. You replied to me and I thought you were talking about me, but, now that I read your statement and look at the original post, I actually agree with you.
@jubelet
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this! We should not ever forget Bill Elliot's 1985 season. One for the ages!
@da324
5 жыл бұрын
And squandered a 206-point lead in the final two months of the season.
@AlonsoRules
10 ай бұрын
didn't win the Winston Cup though, Waltrip won it through constant good finishes
@donaldcastleberry7005
6 жыл бұрын
it's odd to me how that day is not number one ????
@dylanhills3244
3 жыл бұрын
What ensued was one of the most spectacular ass-whoopin's ever seen in the American Southeast. *VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED*
@svo65
12 жыл бұрын
was it legal? bull shit, nascar would have loved to park that damn car but it was legal all year, nascar changed the rules so many times because of one car. that why nascar sucks. bill was the man and never received his due from nascar. that was the most incredible car in nascar history because no other car ever made nascar change the rules so much. go bill!
@thecausalgamer7916
4 жыл бұрын
svo65 that’s because nascar wants the cars to all go the same speed which doesn’t make since because the point of racing is “who has the best car” not “who has the best car under our standards”
@arkhsm
2 жыл бұрын
Shades of Bob Glidden's reign in NHRA Pro Stock, to the point where he had to change brands for a year; as they made his Fairmont (and ONLY his), weigh more and more.....!!
@DoyleFuckinHargraves
10 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. In 1986, everyone else figured it out and began running the narrower chassis. To my recollection. the average centerline from the outside frame rails went from 64" back in the early 80's to a very narrow 55" or 56" by 1986. Couple that with the new LeSabre/Delta 88 and the Monte Carlo/Grand Prix fastback rear windows and you had some real slick Superspeedway cars that finally caught up with the T-Bird.
@donbarker433
6 жыл бұрын
After nascar tied an anchor ( restrictor plate) on him
@KBS117
5 жыл бұрын
That and nascar, allow chevies to run the Ford Cleveland engine in their cars
@da324
5 жыл бұрын
@@donbarker433 Oh, was he the only one who had to use a plate?
@derbagger22
5 жыл бұрын
It was mostly the aero package on the aerocoupes the next couple years that evened things out.
@KBS117
3 жыл бұрын
I sold cars at a Chevy dealer. They brought one of sale Earnhardts race cars into the show room. The showroom was full of people and some idiot was showcasing the gm powerhouse, and bragging about gm power. We were standing there looking at the engine, and I said, but that's a 365 series, 351 Cleveland Ford engine making that power. He slowly pushed the hood down and walked to the back of the car and started talking about drivetrain, bragging on GM's great drivetrain. Again I said, but that's a Ford 9 inch rearend under the car.. my boss point towards the door and told me to hit it. 2 days later, I was fired for supposedly sexually harassing a female customer.. I was their number 1 salesman. To this day I snicker, cause the night before, I had snuck into the showroom after hours while the cleanup crew was cleaning the showroom and stuck 25 blue oval Ford stickers all over the bottom of Dale's car.. wish I could have been there and seen their faces, when they hoisted that thing in the air. Or hell, it may be in a museum somewhere, with the stickers still stuck to it.. I still laugh..
@The300savage
11 жыл бұрын
I watched that race live and the entire crowd was on it's feet for that race. Bill's T-Bird had a different sound than the others and you could tell he was just teasing them. It sounded so much deeper like it had an extra engine hidden somewhere. However, nothing and I mean nothing will run with a properly assembled Ford Cleveland engine. I really don't think he let off in the corners either, just hung on and smiled.
@KBS117
5 жыл бұрын
It was the heads...those heads were always, one of the seven wonders of the world.. Soon, chevies were using the Ford heads
@terrycrotts2522
5 жыл бұрын
@@KBS117 and Ernie Elliott was a master technician on the heads!!
@waynegouin939
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah those old fords are bad fast!!
@danielright2044
4 жыл бұрын
Yes the newly developed high swirl headed engine they actually sounded different and were actually quieter than the other engines, used smaller ports that smoothly sent the more homogenized mixture down the bore, made for a quicker burn, along with a newly design piston that used super-high compression ratios without detonation.
@tonydilks2710
5 жыл бұрын
Awsome Bill was bad ass
@arnenelson4495
4 жыл бұрын
Yes and a clean racer too- he spanked Earnhardt by being a gentleman. Ha! Luv it!
@johngalletta9379
Ай бұрын
I was kid and lucky enough to watch that race .
@terrymccullers9820
3 жыл бұрын
Bills 85 TBird is the reason for restrictor plates today.
@mollyflogin
2 жыл бұрын
No....bobby Allison crashed into the fence there 87 or 88..check it out
@markowens2824
5 жыл бұрын
awesome bill from dawsonville
@LasVegas68
Жыл бұрын
Man I remember that race like it was yesterday! Bill got two laps down and I figured Elliott was done. Went outside to do a little work on my lawn mower. At some point my wife comes out and says you may want to come see this. Bill had just taken the lead and I was so pissed that I didn't see him do it!
@TheDayZCowboy90
8 жыл бұрын
My parents were at this race on one of their first dates.
@johngalletta9379
7 ай бұрын
I watched that race as a kid , it blow my mind how fast that thunderbird was , 351 Cleveland was the motor in the day
@drc1981
12 жыл бұрын
The fact that this insane driving was all done under green is the whole point of the accomplishment and a major point all these expert make here kid. You just repeated what I said: What Elliott did is insane because 1) He had no help from cautions and lucky dogs to make up the gigantic gap between him and the leaders and 2) today's Nascar would have thrown a caution for a bubble gum wrapper on the track the instant Elliott got 1 lap down, much less 2.
@davidvenesky9053
2 жыл бұрын
That was the "Wild West" of NASCAR. No restricter plates, no spacer plates. Driving was all up to the DRIVERS!
@edfulginiti8798
3 жыл бұрын
Nascar then was killer. Awesome Bill.
@brianbooher7318
5 жыл бұрын
Fastest car in history
@gasripper2
11 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@richardrimel2306
2 жыл бұрын
Funny all you ford haters out there think it was cheating bill blew your asses down thats a fact just like glidden did in drag racing blew their asses away first on race day FORD
@knobdikker
2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@matthewmiller7207
3 жыл бұрын
I was an Awesome Bill fan back in the day, even though this was before I was born. R.I.P. Steve Byrnes
@gasripper2
11 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir! Spot on!!
@douglorimer5985
3 жыл бұрын
Many folks were wondering where this extra power can from.only a few new😂🤣😂🤣 but I'll bet Bob Glidden new😂
@terrycrotts2522
Жыл бұрын
Bob glidden was the man for years in that motorcraft ford!
@joemcneely4322
2 жыл бұрын
I watched the broadcast of this race and he was anywhere from 7 tenths to 1.1 seconds quicker than the second place car (Cale and Kyle P. swapped that spot a lot that day)
@Andohish
11 жыл бұрын
Thats the year he set the talladega track record at 212mph no? Damn thats friggin fast.
@arkhsm
7 жыл бұрын
The 212.809 was set in 1987. I had the joy of seeing his win that year at Charlotte Motor Speedway, and I bought a #9;WORLDS FASTEST STOCK CAR, 212.809 tee shirt. The shirt was stolen when my suitcase went missing from the greyhound bus, when I visited the US AGAIN IN 1988. Man, I looked up that tee shirt on many web sites, with no luck; so it must be pretty rare now !!
@len-zeplin480
4 жыл бұрын
He SMOKED them Like a Carton of Cigarettes!
@arkhsm
2 жыл бұрын
Number 1by a COUNTRY MILE !!
@sludge4125
4 жыл бұрын
A broken oil fitting was the reason he fell two laps down.
@mhenderson1000
Жыл бұрын
I bet Bill said to himself as he was passing all those cars for a second time" Have you driven a FORD lately!!!"
@nu-waveutilitytrailers3308
5 жыл бұрын
NASCAR better bring these cars back if they don't they risk losing all that they have built and get rid of these computers
@johnsimon1797
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome bill from Dawsonville badass
@brianbooher7318
3 жыл бұрын
What's so funny is the elliots were totally legal in 1985
@donjennings9034
4 ай бұрын
That car checked out in every inspection, so France and GM said hell no. I even had Bobby Allison tell me that, when I was fortunate to have him at our ITW suite at Brooklyn, MI.
@michaelotten2724
5 жыл бұрын
Bill Elliott shouldve won more than the one championship!
@sludge4125
4 жыл бұрын
Why? Please post something intelligent. How many cup short track wins did he have in his career? One?
@arkhsm
2 жыл бұрын
@@sludge4125 Who cares about slow short tracks ?!
@sludge4125
2 жыл бұрын
@@arkhsm Your post really isn’t intelligent to respond to, but I will state the obvious, just for you, champ. When bill drove, short track races awarded the same amount of points as the big tracks. You’re welcome.
@arkhsm
2 жыл бұрын
@@sludge4125 Thanks smartass, I couldn't be bothered watching that slow crap. They should have given more points for a superspeedway win in my opinion. P. S Pull your big head in chump !!
@terrycrotts2522
Жыл бұрын
@@sludge4125you know so much which short track did bill win! Never mind Google it
@gobbler1957
Жыл бұрын
Best race in Nascar
@markowens2824
4 жыл бұрын
awesome bill from dawson ville
@MrBurney12
11 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah his cars were different than the rest of them, nascar of today would have crucified them for "cheating". This is what made NASCAR great, and it's not cheating its innovation. One team would figure out an edge and whip everybody's ass for a while until the competition figured it out or found something better.
@87Jaws
4 жыл бұрын
And if you ask me that's what made Nascar special back then and why now it's a parade of sponsorship and money. No talent, no balls, no innovation to make the sport exciting like this era and past era thought about being. Let them cheat as long as the fans are safe let that driver and team do whatever. Just let them sign a written statement saying if they die racing its at their own will and grace of themselves and team.
@johnwinkler8064
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome Bill from Dawsonville. I sure hope you all have those belts pulled tight and your "pucker factor" is set on 11 cause Chase Elliot is going to "bring back" 1985:)
@VampireYoshi
7 жыл бұрын
As soon as Chase gains even one full lap back at Daytona or Talladega without the aid of a justified yellow flag, never mind the phantom yellow crap they pull at races these days, THEN we'll talk 1985.
@donbarker433
6 жыл бұрын
John WInkler not in a bowtie
@glenpower1677
4 жыл бұрын
God, I hope that Ford put that car in their museum!
@markmundwiller5842
2 жыл бұрын
That car is at the museum at the Talladega race track
@lesmach6495
3 жыл бұрын
Ernie built 'em and Bill ran 'em.
@steverothaupt9575
2 ай бұрын
Bill Elliot had some extremely strong race cars during those years. And you didn’t see any pack racing in that race either!!
@joeyjohnson4826
3 жыл бұрын
That was one bad asa hotrod 😉
@shanemurphy2834
5 жыл бұрын
The #9 Coors Ford Thunderbird IS....THE REASON!!!!.....WHY WE HAVE RESTRICTOR PLATES TODAY!!!! Period....NO if...ands....or buts!!!...….
@mikedegregorio9113
4 жыл бұрын
The reason we have restrictor plates is due to Bobby Alison going airborne and taking out catch fence at Talladega in 87.
@danielright2044
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikedegregorio9113 yes it was Bobbys Buick LeSabre that body was developed for NASCAR and ran 2 years before they used the late eighties FWD Regal body that helped Bobby win races
@arnenelson4495
4 жыл бұрын
It was only a matter of time until plates made their debut.
@adamUDavies
3 жыл бұрын
How was Ernie Elliot not one of the greatest engine builders in Nascrap 🙄
@waynegouin939
5 жыл бұрын
Man that old "T" bird could teally haul the mail!!
@tommywoods5447
Жыл бұрын
Bill Elliott and the family was the one's to beat if the others could catch them even dale earnhardt
@carlbuschman
Жыл бұрын
I watched that race go Cleveland.
@r.d.riddle2068
Жыл бұрын
I remember a lot of good cars losing engines that day trying to catch that T-bird.
@DCTib
7 жыл бұрын
Was he two laps down and on the same pit sequence as the leaders, or was he off sequence and only 2 laps down when he would pit and the leaders hadn't?
@makedragon
5 жыл бұрын
he had an oil scavenger line broke so it took them two laps to replace it.
@butch6814
4 ай бұрын
who was the engine builder and where is that engine now
@Infadel69
5 жыл бұрын
His car was two inches narrower then everyone else. NASCAR did not have a template for that. But when they figured it out a few years later. They made one.
@markmundwiller5842
2 жыл бұрын
That's not true at all the car is in the Talladega museum at the track. Go measure it
@terrycrotts2522
Жыл бұрын
@@markmundwiller5842hes in denial
@mikecross4350
Жыл бұрын
Anybody mention that that was his qualifying engine and they all said it would grenade
@negtype13
12 жыл бұрын
@MrJsmyers I TOTALLY agree with you! But at the end of this segment..they are saying "time out!" and wondering if it was legal. Even Pemberton @ 2:03 calls it the "Biggest Waxing" in NASCAR history!?? WTF does that mean!!? Like I said..I agree with you! I believe he had one of the strongest cars ever, and on top of that had the BALLS to run it as mhard/fast as he could. But I don't understand how it's on the GREATEST moments, if half the commentors are implying cheating/foul play.
@Pushyhog
4 жыл бұрын
ha! lol,,,, cant do that today. 3 races in one race nowdays. went from men to boys. Bill had a badass glasair 2 seater experimental/gray. Oh yea, race then fly home at 200mph.
@MikeMcD2112
Жыл бұрын
Awesome Bill😂
@WmTRiker
5 жыл бұрын
Just makes you wonder, if he hadn't gotten two laps down, would he have won by two laps over the field?
@dustypeppers1358
4 жыл бұрын
No ...he probably would have sandbagged it some. But out of nessesity he put his cards on the table.....and a legend was born.
@ONTHEEDGEFRED
3 жыл бұрын
@@dustypeppers1358 Absolutely correct, he would have never run that car that hard if he hadn't got behind.
@terrycrotts2522
Жыл бұрын
@@ONTHEEDGEFREDyea he was absolutely toying with them boys! He could have left them like kowolski left those cops in vanishing point! 😂
@cybertiledude
10 жыл бұрын
He was so dominant that many people mistakenly believe that he won the championship that year. Waltrip was barely able to beat awesome Bill that year.
@da324
5 жыл бұрын
So, than means Waltrip was more dominant.
@greggrichardson12
11 жыл бұрын
No, that is not true. "In the 1980s, cars would be able to go well over 200mph at tracks such as Talladega and Daytons. That was accepted until 1987 when Bobby Allison blew a tire and crashed into the catch fence at over 200 mph. Seach "1987 Winston 500 - Bobby Allison Crash" on KZitem.
@waynegouin939
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, restrictor plates were born!
@homergrand99
11 жыл бұрын
1987
@ps-mq7tm
2 жыл бұрын
🚘🏁🙋♂️
@stevensek7872
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah mule! When NASCAR was NASCAR.
@tommysimmons3258
3 жыл бұрын
When I lived in dawsonville I heard his engine was 2 inches lower in set up.
@terrycrotts2522
Жыл бұрын
And what would that accomplish? Was nascar that stupid
@mikecross4350
Жыл бұрын
I was there and watched the chevys guys cheer and yell when they thought he blew ...they was wrong
@youknoweverything7643
2 жыл бұрын
That's crazzy 210 mph haha
@brianmaricle9646
3 жыл бұрын
What was that we just blew by not sure think it was a hellcat lol
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