Bush did the camouflaging! It was an inside job (by the crew)!
@biocaster777
7 жыл бұрын
Greg Makropoulos You sir made my day.
@Tofu572
7 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my ex-wife.
@Danspy501st
7 жыл бұрын
Soldier: Sir? I think that bush is looking at us Commander: What do you mean? Bush cant lo- *Killed by a shoot from the armoured bush*
@Peabush
7 жыл бұрын
Tanker here. Yes it is effective, yes it makes sense, and yes it is a battlewinner in terms of drawing an enemy into a FCA. The thermal signature is significantly smaller. The outlines are broken up and the "human" eye without tech will overlook it in the bushes. Optics being covered up is a problem, however we tend to avoid covering up the optics in general. In a defensive battleposition we have the engine off, and as you mentioned the APU will kick in if there is low voltage. After a couple of hours the heat signature is small. Engines on, the trees / buidings near a tank will light up like a bulb in thermals. The problem is not hiding your tank, it is hiding your tracks. Aviators will just follow the tracks. It will not matter if you are in a forrest, or in a barn. Baracuda camo is the shit! Worth every penny in Afghanistan and we will see more of it in the future. But nothing beats branches, grass and mud.
@caterpillarsloper786
7 жыл бұрын
Peabush Hahaha you know :) the sky is a pain in the ass fore a tank greetz from a Dutch tankdriver
@Cramblit
7 жыл бұрын
That's always been the biggest wonder to me. What do you guys do to cover your tracks? Doesn't matter how camouflaged you are, how minimal your heat signature is, hell you could be 95% invisible to everything, but if you several obvious tracks leading right up to where you are, it undermines alot of that doesn't it?
@Peabush
7 жыл бұрын
Eternally Angelic I once jokingly suggested to a brigade general that we should drag large Christmas trees behind us to mask our tracks as he was so focused on camouflage nets wherever we went. he was not impressed.. But covering the tracks leading directly into a wooded area 1 x 1 km is not important. if I had a drone with video feed I can tell you exactly where to call for fire. a squadron of tanks makes a he'll of alot of tracks and deep ones too.
@Cramblit
7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure someone's thought of this many times over, but.. Since you're going "Old School" tactics of branches on vehicles, etc., why not go even more old School, and take a page out of the Romans books when fighting the Pagans. Since they couldn't really hide that they were there, the next best course would be to hide how strong you are. They'd walk single file. Do tanks do the same? Drive in each others tracks to conceal how many of you there are, then spread out in the woods with the APU? Harder to tell from the air if the tracks are then just a few trucks, or a whole battalion of tanks. harder to spot those tracks too if it's just 2 lines, rather than 40 lines spread out, or ripping up the ground all over the place.
@Snailman3516
7 жыл бұрын
Eternally Angelic not knowing how many abrams and bradleys there are would be scary AF. Even if the enemy catches on that you are doing that, one set of tracks that could be from a dozen Abrams leading into a forest would scare me shitless. Sending one tank could deny the enemy an entire area just by the possibility that there could be an entire army. Set up some early ambushes in a campaign and fear can become a new dimension to war.
@jerrybot3000
6 жыл бұрын
This video is very confusing to me. It's literally just a 16:45 minute long footage of trees with some voice over.
@_Matsimus_
6 жыл бұрын
Jerry Bot yet you continued to watch it?
@jerrybot3000
6 жыл бұрын
I kept watching the video because I had this weird feeling like it was building up to something. But then toward the end at around 15:35, I caught a glimpse of a woman standing in a field wearing a backpack and another woman with a little girl strolling toward some bushes and then the video abruptly ended????
@_Matsimus_
6 жыл бұрын
Jerry Bot no it didn’t. But hey. I see your rather dubious point.
@chrillepixla
5 жыл бұрын
The guy walking in front of the Leopards got me
@kr00k3d100
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, very strange background footage for the topic.
@ziliestarrive
7 жыл бұрын
It's for hunting down Santa Claus.
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
HAHA hell yeah ;-)
@Hellsong89
7 жыл бұрын
+Matsimus Gaming Heres video idea. How well old AT techniques of infantry would/are working against modern armored vehicles of different countries. To name the few: molotov cocktail, birch log in tracks, satchel charge and so on. I.e how militia/poorly armed force would use guorilla tactics against larger forces modern armor. We know about IED's and its effectiveness, but could any other way work, perhaps if militia still does not have any explosives at hand, or dont have much of it, only small arms.
@justinavery8664
3 жыл бұрын
He had it coming... keeping that good bad list of his🤣😅😂
@nickrunyon1129
7 жыл бұрын
I wonder how Germany feels about have tanks in Poland again
@MrCmon113
7 жыл бұрын
I can sleep well at night. : D
@clixium
7 жыл бұрын
Nick R. Same goes for Poland and German tanks in it again
@marianmarkovic5881
7 жыл бұрын
or vice versa,....
@kleinerbub84
7 жыл бұрын
No one want's tanks here. It's our and overseas dickheads playing with wartoys. In the end it's you and me dying for political shit....really cool hm?
@ElvenMans
7 жыл бұрын
Also US having troops all around Europe...
@rubenskiii
7 жыл бұрын
Matsimus you cheeky bugger....if i wanted to waste 16+ minutes of my life by looking at snowy landscapes i would put on BBC with Sir David Attenborough okay? *I came here to see tanks!* ;D
@badgambit
7 жыл бұрын
And the *totally random* tank sound effect
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Haha! well they are there lol! Tanks for watching!
@couchcamperTM
7 жыл бұрын
you can't expect to SEE tanks in a video with camouflage in the title d'oh!
@throatnotchingtroutzzz6789
7 жыл бұрын
Well bushcraft and nature meet the tank nice combo.
@zepter00
6 жыл бұрын
It is How central Europe Looks like .. it could be land when WW3 starts. Land for big tank battles...
@Derkiboi
7 жыл бұрын
Trys not to mention Russia
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAH! Sorry :-/
@philipplutki
6 жыл бұрын
russian tanks need no camo they are built out of stalinium!
@scadoodlemusic3682
6 жыл бұрын
Dark Pluto the most powerful camo is Russian bias
@philipplutki
6 жыл бұрын
the red star will protect you
@cbaylor0369
6 жыл бұрын
Dark Pluto *1946 yeet
@user-py9cy1sy9u
7 жыл бұрын
US army is learning some defensive tactics instead of usual attack attack attack
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
They are just working into new NATO doctrine I think. Thanks for watching :-)
@tevzkahuna6588
7 жыл бұрын
wwwelkam ahahaha nice one
@rockymtnredneck4888
7 жыл бұрын
It's RE-learning skills that feel away during the GWOT. Go read Team Yankee. Great book that describes defensive armor ops back in the Fulda Gap days.
@chrislund9677
7 жыл бұрын
Yup, I was there. 1st Infantry Div, Forward.
@jari2018
7 жыл бұрын
I dont get it.. dont usa use waterdisolveble white color to paint the tanks -It just used since 50 years in sweden.
@9thbloodandfire508
5 жыл бұрын
Retired German Leo II TC/platoon leader here. Yes, we put a lot of effort into the camo of our tanks, even for just some ordinary, basic tankshooting on the various training areas. Camo is something you learn among the very first lessons even in basic training. "Always, everywhere and permanent adaption" was our principle. On various trainings we even carried a different basic set of small tress with us to change camo if quickly neccessary. Camo masks the thermal signature of your tank a lot. But don't forget you will not always face high tech, respectively functional high tech. Also on various situations, you can't always use all your optics, and if so, possible opponents in same situations can't do it as well. So yes, camo was always an essential art we had to perform.
@desantos1234
7 жыл бұрын
9:40 the Russians would call it the floating shitstain of death
@nooneno12
7 жыл бұрын
U.S. Abrams have NBC coating in the paint. That's why it's a big deal to repaint them just for an exercise.
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Fair point. thanks for watching!
@peterking2651
6 жыл бұрын
No they don't, they have an IR coating. They have an NBC pack. BTW none of that work's against TI sights.
@erikahl7934
5 жыл бұрын
Does not matter since the new paint goes over the old one so it does not really matter Unless you sandblast the entire fucking tank
@robertjohnson462
5 жыл бұрын
Dejezeri ah I see why he said it was expensive to repaint the tank
@xjboy550
7 жыл бұрын
Look stop making really informative vids about fantastically interesting subjects I do have other things to do you know ! ; ]
@derickgabrillo1579
7 жыл бұрын
Why is your thumbnail empty?
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
It wasnt? Is it now?
@derickgabrillo1579
7 жыл бұрын
Matsimus Gaming ah. I thought it was just a plain background. I see the tank now. XD I can't believe you replied. I really LOVE your videos. Can't wait to see more tanks and hopefully some ships!
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
I am sorry that I dont always reply. Its hard nowdays :-)
@derickgabrillo1579
7 жыл бұрын
Matsimus Gaming no worries, just keep doing what you do for as long as it makes you happy. :) Best wishes to you.
@muncher9615
5 жыл бұрын
Thout it wasca camo joke
@asagk
6 жыл бұрын
Do you know what a real fancy form of camoflage is? In east german army during cold war they had highly trained special troups for camoflage, who could create from some bushes, sticks and some cloth planes things that actually did look like a tank. They could do that in a very short amount of time and in the outcome you could not tell what was a real tank and what just some fake thing from bushes, sticks and cloth. And that was exactly the very purpose of this troups, to distract possible enemies from the real tanks amoung the fake ones. So camoflage does not only have function to hide something, it can also be used very well to make you believe things that are not at all what you think they are.
@justdoit4834
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for your input.
@MrCmon113
7 жыл бұрын
Why is this grove moving towards us?
@unholywarrior5626
7 жыл бұрын
Time for new glasses? 🤓
@zepter00
4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Bennett Yes kzitem.info/news/bejne/z36YtnyPhpapiIY
@markvonhere8710
7 жыл бұрын
Your voice is very nice to listen too, thats the only reason i really watch your videos
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
MarkVonHere hahahah!! Well thank you :-)
@providence5384
7 жыл бұрын
MarkVonHere tank gun stabilizer video please?
@kris220b
7 жыл бұрын
ASMR time :P sorry, to easy
@MicheleFerrariAX
7 жыл бұрын
SAAB has really got their promo video shit toghether
@mikos321
7 жыл бұрын
the entire swedish military is basically a big commercial for SAAB :P
@ryancook6452
7 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly surprised they've not done the old, smear a basic tiger stripe in mud.
@Dasmaster1
7 жыл бұрын
Not much mud during winter in Poland. Would stick out pretty badly. Also we havent actually needed cammo for a long time since we have outclassed our opponents so heavily that its a waste of effort.
@ryancook6452
7 жыл бұрын
American armour divisions used to do it during the second world war. American vehicles coming without camo and only in green. within the winter months, they stuck out like a sore thumb, the quickest solution was to just smear mud up the side of the tank.
@garywheeler7039
7 жыл бұрын
I remember a local US national guard humvee display in maybe early 2002, criticising him that his vehicle should be colored desert tan instead of forest / olive green. I was anticapating desert war and he was perhaps playing dumb.
@gallendugall8913
7 жыл бұрын
Armored Bush would be a great video game title.
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Hahah! Yeah or a sex toy!
@ghostdog688
7 жыл бұрын
I think one of the other reasons camouflage like this is done is that during training it gets the soldiers thinking tactically about cover and concealment. Even if the camo job is useless (which it's not), getting it done still demonstrates the tactical mindset and gets folks on the field thinking about staying hard to see.
@markreintjes9030
6 жыл бұрын
ghostdog688 are you an officer? Because this sounds like some officer making an excuse for when something isnt done right.
@rattyratstuff7125
3 жыл бұрын
no doubt the germans would have grown hedgerows all along the front and sides of the l.p.1500 ratte
@Slafeys
7 жыл бұрын
Just get some chalk if you are in the snow, Russians did it in WW2.
@peterking2651
6 жыл бұрын
Cat Slave It was newspaper
@princeigorash
7 жыл бұрын
Hello Matsimus. Regarding your question about the invisible camouflage when it gets dirty: I think they can use for fast cleaning, bursts of cleaning agent with blown compressed air. It could be a system integrated into the tank which is activated seconds before the activation of the invisible camouflage. Also on the market there are already products which applied as coating, repels water, mud and oils. Thx.
@kylekafka6636
7 жыл бұрын
The Adaptiv camouflage is only for infared, so mud and dirt might not be as much of an issue.
@sebastianpuzik2533
7 жыл бұрын
I hope he just missed what is going on and didn't state it as if he is convinced this shall be for visible light... Well ok, watched till the end. He in fact is talking about thermal imaging. Ok for your information @Matsimus Gaming mud, sand and rain wan't restttrict the signiture that is projected that much
@military-vehicles
7 жыл бұрын
Tank? i see no tank? sometimes only dust!
@dodgewrench7221
7 жыл бұрын
The invisible tanks don't use screens. They use thermal tiles to become invisible to thermal imaging. But we might be talking about different things.
@DeVerm123
5 жыл бұрын
We (Dutch cavalry when that still existed) tested active daytime camouflage which were dozens of very bright lights shining directly at the enemy. Seems crazy but worked pretty good.
@TheSauronchik
7 жыл бұрын
I say nuke it from orbit :) Thanks for video!
@1986tessie
7 жыл бұрын
TheSauronchik no nukes in space bruh. you can't hug kids with nuclear arms bruh... :)
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching :-D
@frederickcstacey.7520
3 жыл бұрын
Remember, a bush moving at 30 miles per hour or 50 kph is not a bush.
@lordemarsh6804
7 жыл бұрын
looks like the germans dont obstruct their views with camo, well america keep learning from the war experts
@doylesanders562
7 жыл бұрын
Back in the early to mid 1970s, I was involved in an experimental U.S.Marine Corps Program using painted camouflage (Murdock Pattern) in conjunction with natural camouflage materials. One of the criticisms we heard from 'Old School" tankers was, "Oh, there goes a 52-ton ton camouflaged tank !" The tank the Marines were using at the time was the M48A3 Mod B. During the tests and evaluations, conducted in wooded areas, I was able to spot the uncamouflaged, Marine Corps Green tank at 1200 meters, that is of course boresight range for the 90 mm gun system. On the other hand, I could not spot the camouflaged M-48 tanks until they were between 700 to 800 meters from us. The M 48 with its rangefinder and ballistic computer and a trained crew can hit targets with a greater than 90% chance of a first round hit on targets beyond 1200 meters. When tanks are engaged at 700 to 800 meters, those ranges are quite literally, point and shoot, and in tank vs tank warfare, he who sees first, shoots first and generally wins.
@swaghauler8334
7 жыл бұрын
Camo would be effective against infantry but NOT against other armored vehicles. The tanks are Coyote Brown because they were scheduled to rotate to the Gulf before the US Army changed its mind. Tanks in the Eastern US (where Europe is, in fact, our focus) are Woodland Camo.
@Arg0n01
7 жыл бұрын
The thermal camo is most likely a Peltier type device which generates or sucks up heat,it should technically work even with mud splashes as the plates will cool down or heat up the mud still presenting a different signature compared to the original, the drawback is that the vehicle will take some time to heat up the said mud, but once it's done it will still present a changed/reduced thermal signature.
@Catrik
7 жыл бұрын
Why is painting expensive? Is it the paint itself or are the some special requirements? You'd think you just get a couple of guys with spray guns and paint brushes and get done with it
@marcinfrostymroz
7 жыл бұрын
Catrik i huess it's the sheer amount needed
@carydn
7 жыл бұрын
The US (idk...maybe whole NATO) uses CARC paint on vehicles, and some equipment as well. Tan is actually a better color than green since light brown is present on any environment except maybe in a complete white-out. We used to use white camo netting for vehicles at Alaska during exercises.
@PlazmaZ5
7 жыл бұрын
expensive long lasting paint. Also you have to factor the logistics of sending tanks back to get repainted.
@Catrik
7 жыл бұрын
Well you can paint a big car with epoxy paint for 300e, guesstimate 5x paint for Abrams sized tank, that's 1500e. Consider military buys the paint in huge batches, maybe -30% (probably even less), thats 1000e per tank. And you probably aren't too considered on the finish quality so you dont need expensive professional labour. So unless the paint is something special, the cost doesn't seem very high considering the cost of operating a tank anyway. AssaultPlazma If you're sending the tank to another country (different terrain, desert to snow etc), then it probably goes through maintenance anyway so I dont see why there would be extra logistics involved. I guess for enviromental reasons you would have to use a painth booth so maybe that could be issue
@PlazmaZ5
7 жыл бұрын
trust me dude actual straight spray paint for the entire tank itself needs to be done professionally. unless were spray painting over/ re painting new bumper numbers we don't mess with the paint. Also no part of pre-deployment maintenance involves painting the tanks.
@thomasborgsmidt304
6 жыл бұрын
One thing you could do to confuse the infrared recce is to put some cookers a different place - light them, and they will show up splendid on infrared. And the loss of a couple of cookers is cheap compared to a tank.
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Wish to donate to support my channel? - Paypal link: paypal.me/Matsimus
@piotrlenar5652
7 жыл бұрын
Just FYI www.lubawa.com.pl/index.php/en/kamuflaz-4/kamuflaz-mobilny/771-kamuflaz-mobilny-en
@muzzer6557
7 жыл бұрын
you can also donate to me if you want :)
@Alan-ug3nj
7 жыл бұрын
Matsimus, you have a good content. liked your commentaries and all of them makes sense!
@LoliLoveJuice
7 жыл бұрын
mind if we post our paypal here too? 😂jk not jk
@muzzer6557
7 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA!!
@MissKay1994
7 жыл бұрын
I've always liked the look of just piling on tree branches and bushes to camouflage a vehicle. There's various good pictures of Shermans and other tanks from that era driving around looking like mobilized underbrush.
@wilhelmbeller
7 жыл бұрын
I like how you said, the training Area Poland. I know what you meant it just sounded like Poland as a whole is a training area
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Sorry. I meant no offense :-(
@wilhelmbeller
7 жыл бұрын
Matsimus Gaming I don't think anyone took it as offensive and even if, it's a slip up. Keep up the good work, you are honestly one of the best mil tec channels on here
@griffithgaming821
7 жыл бұрын
Immenant what? Didn't offend?! *T* *R* *I* *G* *G* *E* *R* *E* *D* everyday I wake up to a sound of a tank engine and all I see is a massive bush, I think I'm going insane, did I ever tell you a story of how I found a moving metal bush?
@1985rbaek
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Matsimus On the camouflaging systems to fool weapon system optics. Thermal imaging and IR are the most common technologies as far as I know, which would mean, that instead of screens they could be using some kind of electric heating and cooling (Peltier) elements with isolation between them to get the desired effect of obscuring the silhouette. Sensors (similar to thermal cameras could do the trick) mounted on each side could record for the opposing side of the vehicle to use. Advantage of this is that you could just use a normal metal (like aluminum) on the outside of the electronic camouflage, and paint them as normal (except the thermal imaging sensor used for recording signatures of course).
@DilpreetSingh-1989
6 жыл бұрын
In future, hybrid electric engines would not only provide acoustic stealth to these vehicles but would also contribute in great extent to the vehicle been hidden on the infrared spectrum as they would not have that much heat/ smoke emissions in electric mode while working in conjunction with their infrared camouflage . However, they would need to rely the most time on conventional engine due to their limitations.
@JohnDoe-qo4xd
7 жыл бұрын
The SAAB Barracuda system is awesome for MBT's and all sorts of units. The swedish army used on the Strv 122 (Leo2) in Afghanistan, and those usually are painted in a very special dark green camo for swedish forest, and if I'm not mistaken they never repainted them, just covered them in the desert Barracuda shown in this clip.
@jonny2954
6 жыл бұрын
The swedish army didn't use Leopard 2 in afghanistan, only CV-90. The danish army and the canadian army deployed the Leopad 2. Also the swedish army CV90 aswell as the danish army Leopard 2A5DK were painted in desert camo (canadian Leopard 2A4CAN wasn't), but they added SAAB barracuda (MCS) on them (and the german Marder 1 IFV) because the vehicles heated up too much for the older air conditioning to handle. Thermal camouflage systems like barracuda or solarshield have heat resistance, so the inside of the vehicle stays (relatively) cool. On modern vehicles this kind of heat resistance technology is already integrated in the base armor (AMAP-S).
@Mr9Guns
7 жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting schemes I've seen is the Berlin Brigade camo from the cold war.
@nooneno12
7 жыл бұрын
I'm not certain by how much but I'm sure trees and leaves and snow help break up a thermal signature as well. Would be interesting to actually see how.
@dukenukem8381
7 жыл бұрын
those plates are not displays they are thermal plates that heat up to the ambient temerature
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
LOL! sorry I am stupid :-(
@dukenukem8381
7 жыл бұрын
its ok i am dumb too
@zoltancsikos5604
7 жыл бұрын
DUKE NUKEM Can I be dumb too?
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Zoltan Csikos lol you're not a very good troll
@Frank-Thoresen
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I was actually searching for tank camouflage because of the upcoming counter offense by the Ukrainian military with the T-62, T-72, T-80, T-90, Abrams, Challenger 2 and Leopard 2 tanks. Would be great if they can camouflage them so good that the Russians don't know what they are up against on the battlefield
@damonstr
7 жыл бұрын
Where do you get this footage from?
@hdsg8361
6 жыл бұрын
youtube
@tristynpitard8493
5 жыл бұрын
I get this video is old but i wanted to inform you if you haven't already been informed, that the hexagonal plates aren't a screen but rather generate energy in such a way that it mimics the background thermally. If you think about it if mud gets on the plate the most that will happen is there will be distortion of the screen but of the same thermal color ( the same temperature) as its surroundings especially since those plates are more then likely semi conductors. Regardless though it would make the vehicle much harder to see thermally.
@HSMiyamoto
5 жыл бұрын
"How not to be Seen" 2019 Style. Rule 1: Don't stand up.
@sovietsocialist1652
5 жыл бұрын
rule 2: dont leave the underneath of your desk.
@pencils1951
6 жыл бұрын
The art of concealment, (camoflage) was or still is known as the seven "S", shape, shine, shadow, silhouette, sound, speed, and surroundings. A fundament requirement that begins in training and is accentual to soldiering.
@Colonel_Overkill
6 жыл бұрын
"I would just shoot it anyway" It seems we have a similar philosophy on this matter. Security is more valuable than ammunition lol.
@TheENxis
7 жыл бұрын
Love the old school camouflage, hate putting it up. I did my conscription service in the Finnish maritime forces an we used to camouflage whole warships that were anchored up to islands. The ships aren't actually that large, but I can assure you it's plenty of work hiding a 50m long missile boat with netting.
@spamuraigranatabru1149
7 жыл бұрын
I want my tank covered. If i'm a tanker and i could not do that, then i'm out.
@shanerooney7288
7 жыл бұрын
You would do it for sure. Do it every 8 hours or so. Because the leaves you grabbed would have dried out and thus the "bush" your tank once looked like is now an odd color and wilting.
@spamuraigranatabru1149
7 жыл бұрын
But bushes are great!
@christianemmanuelf.domingo793
4 жыл бұрын
Cover the whole thing with living plants so it stays green even when camping for a long time, no need to replace the camo with fresh veggies, maybe invent a kit to add on tanks to hold fertile soil mud or clay all over it and a sprinkler like a mobile garden lol I don't remember the movie where soldiers got shot because they are fixing their camo because the old ones withered
@fjon4060
6 жыл бұрын
OLD SCHOOL rules
@_Matsimus_
6 жыл бұрын
F Jon agreed 👍😉
@MacChew008
7 жыл бұрын
Radar Netting, Meant to disrupt effectiveness of radar ability to distinguish the massive metal object from the background clutter. Likely materials, that provides more radar absorption, reduct the radar returns (signal get attenuated). Foliage does help to reduce radar returns, netting is easier and more deterministic way.
@Akm72
7 жыл бұрын
Not an expert my any means, but if I understand it correctly, it depends on the radar frequency. MMW radar is supposed to be very good at seeing through foliage, presumably longer wavelength X-band radars not so much.
@Tai1g
7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you've mentioned it in the vid yet, I'm not all the way through. But have you seen the new netting for the Challenger 2 (Megatron or ATDU, I'm not sure?) I think it looks really cool, but how will it effect the system and is it like the anti-radar netting you talked about? Just curious.
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
I have seen that tank! ITS AMAZING LOL! the netting would work well I think. What do you think?
@Tai1g
7 жыл бұрын
Matsimus Gaming I think it makes the thing look fluffy, but bloody fantastic 😂 Was wondering whether it would help with reducing the thermal output of the tank too
@mississippirebel1409
5 жыл бұрын
Most civilians don't realize that first off a tank like the Abrams or the Bradley is going to be able to easily spot a human size target from a VERY LONG ways away and a tank even further. So by just putting some tree branches over the tank, a human isn't going to be able to spot a tank. It is very hard to spot a tank hidding in a tree line from just a few hundred yards and by the time you get close enough to spot it, you will probably be long dead. Also for US and it's allies, their tanks are pretty much always going to have air cover. It's hard to imagine the US and it's allies not having air superiority. So enemy forces won't have many chances to attack US and NATO armor from above.
@Crashed131963
5 жыл бұрын
Best answer.
@Lechuxxl
7 жыл бұрын
1.58 this is polish Leopard 2A5 no German ;-D
@NationalSniper
7 жыл бұрын
As far as I know Poland only got Leo 2 A4. Which after a huge armor update (which looks different then that of the A5) are called Leopard 2PL.
@hansolo5912
7 жыл бұрын
Leszek Prondzinski they stole my tank!!11!!
@helly8800
7 жыл бұрын
To me it looks more like a German reconnaissance unit.
@JazzJaRa
7 жыл бұрын
No, Poland also got Leopard 2A5
@jonny2954
7 жыл бұрын
1:58 are Polish Leopard 2A5 indeed. You can see it on the shorter barrel of the Rheinmetall L44 while the german Leopard 2A6/A6M/A7 have the 25 % longer L55 as seen at 1:47 .
@EnigmaNL
3 жыл бұрын
White washing a tank is cheap and easy, them not doing it is just laziness. My dad was a tank commander in the late 70's and they'd white wash their tanks for every winter exercise, it only takes an hour or so. You can wash it off when the exercise is done.
@ludvigthebirb7131
7 жыл бұрын
well thank you good sir im fine interesting video as always
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked it :-)
@cutenekonep906
7 жыл бұрын
being a commander in a leopard 2a6 in canada i really like the net/padding what ever you want to call it
@paecmaker
7 жыл бұрын
0:38 cool story bro
@nobodyfromnowhere3597
6 жыл бұрын
Back during world war 2 smoke and mirrors were used to hide entire armies but today I think it gives little to none strategic advantage but is still viable on tactical level.
@CharcharoExplorer
7 жыл бұрын
AMD APUs are dank enough for the military. #AyyyMD
@Arnechk
7 жыл бұрын
Natural camo has its advantages to the naked eye, but the most important thing is to look cool when going into battle and there is no better way to do it than with foliage and strips and nets and canopies and whatnot.
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Indeed natural is always the best way but not the best in terms of time effective. Tanks so much for watching!
@bronsondavis2027
7 жыл бұрын
LOL I said I will shoot it anyways
@wildwolf111
7 жыл бұрын
Well, my philosophy while in army: it's always better to have than not have.
@umvhu
7 жыл бұрын
Camouflage works in ambush, otherwise it's futile.
@V4nh4K3ttu
7 жыл бұрын
It helps even in move, trust me
@s.31.l50
5 жыл бұрын
Nah seeing a big bush moving at 70kph is definitely not conspicuous.
@franzRRC
2 жыл бұрын
imagine sitting next to a bush then it starts moving
@DJSbros
7 жыл бұрын
The Canadian Army LOVES using scrim on vehicles and helmets.
@Mr9Guns
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah we are fucking obsessed with cam nets.
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
I hate scrim on helmets. Its awful. lol! Tanks for watching!
@ouberfox5898
6 жыл бұрын
DJSbros canada was the first recoded country to ever use camouflage and we still do it. if you mess eh ya don’t know whaer the hell we comeing from.
@blxtothis
4 жыл бұрын
Jeepers, it’s bad enough getting rid of all those pine needles from the Christmas Tree very day, I don’t envy the grunt who has to hoover up a battle tank.
@REgamesplayer
7 жыл бұрын
Russia is researching S-500, Nato is researching basic camo technology. Sigh. Good video though.
@bengrogan9710
7 жыл бұрын
Russia has no hope to keep air superiority, NATO has time to burn on Camo as Russian tanks are still cold war hulks
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Tanks for watching :-D
@sneakysnowman5150
7 жыл бұрын
when the battle moss rolls out all should tremble in fear
@shanerooney7288
7 жыл бұрын
Just a point about using plant-life as cammo: anything "alive" will die and dry out after you cut it. meaning that grass and leaves that once looked just like every other push in the area will begin to change color. Eventually it will stick out almost as much as generic cammo nets (and thus need to be replaced).
@swanky_yuropean7514
7 жыл бұрын
Ever had a Christmas tree in your home? A lot of evergreen plants can last for weeks before they dry out.
@V4nh4K3ttu
7 жыл бұрын
He is right, before color changes thermal signature of branches change. You should renew camouflage for 2-4 days depending temperature.
@EstellammaSS
7 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a footage of a camouflaged T-80, they made the main gun look like a fallen tree and it was amazing. The only camouflaged tank that fooled me thus far.
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Camoed T-80s makes me hard lol! Tanks for watching! :-D
@xuda7100
7 жыл бұрын
man those M1A2 Abrams look badass.
@kordaxmint533
7 жыл бұрын
But it's pretty outdated with no modern active protection systems in frontal area.
@xuda7100
7 жыл бұрын
kordax mint Bullshit the M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams will be fitted with the US Army's Quick kill APS.
@kordaxmint533
7 жыл бұрын
it doesn't even have an ammo loader, big bulked afroamerican soldier will load shells...
@xuda7100
7 жыл бұрын
kordax mint so who cares if it doesn't have an autoloader, a human loader can be quicker.
@kordaxmint533
7 жыл бұрын
dude, it's 21st century... autoloader is a machine, human loader can fail, drop shell, etc. it just shows that M1A's are from WW2 era :D
@buenoobra3443
7 жыл бұрын
...with Thermal imaging camera nowadays, the Recon Drone or UAV can easily through the shrubs and tree canopies...
@ira1420
5 жыл бұрын
During winter operations it could turn out very useful to camouflage the tank covering it with snow, it would hide it both from optical and thermal air sights
@horrido666
4 жыл бұрын
It is especially effective at dusk/twilight. Great in a woodline. Much less useful in the open. RE Hunting by sound - once we got lost in a woods in a training exercise. Had my driver shut down the engines to listen. We heard an M113 engine idling only 50 yards away! It was a bad guy too, and we killed him and two of his buddies.
@SsiolisP
7 жыл бұрын
If you really hate politics, then please stop repeating NATO's narrative which is "someone who drinks vodka and speaks russian" might invade Poland!!!Just for the sake of argument, give me one single sain reason for which "someone who drinks vodka and speaks russian" would want to invade Poland???
@unholywarrior5626
7 жыл бұрын
It's the same reason that "someone who drinks vodka and speaks russian" invaded Finland, South Ossetia, Abhazkia, Crimea, E Ukraine, etc. 🍋
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
SsiolisP the hell are you talking about? Did I at any point refer to Russians drinking vodka and invading Poland? Answer is no. Grow up.
@SsiolisP
7 жыл бұрын
The hell? Grow up? And I get this from a "mature" man simply for saying "please"?Learn to read my dear young man! I wrote: "stop repeating NATO'S narrative" and continued by explaining what NATO's narrative is. Go ahead, read my comment again, it clearly reads: which is (NATO's) "someone who drinks vodka etc".
@SsiolisP
7 жыл бұрын
This one is easy. The USA which is only 241 years old has invaded 71 other nations. Thats 1 nation every 3 years: (1) American Indian nations (1776 onwards, American Indian Genocide; 1803, Louisiana Purchase; 1844, Indians banned from east of the Mississippi; 1861 onwards, California genocide; 1890, Lakota Indians massacre), (2) Mexico (1836-1846; 1913; 1914-1918; 1923), (3) Nicaragua (1856-1857; 1894; 1896; 1898; 1899; 1907; 1910; 1912-1933; 1981-1990), (4) American forces deployed against Americans (1861-1865, Civil War; 1892; 1894; 1898; 1899-1901; 1901; 1914; 1915; 1920-1921; 1932; 1943; 1967; 1968; 1970; 1973; 1992; 2001), (5), Argentina (1890), (6), Chile (1891; 1973), (7) Haiti (1891; 1914-1934; 1994; 2004-2005), (8) Hawaii (1893-), (9) China (1895-1895; 1898-1900; 1911-1941; 1922-1927; 1927-1934; 1948-1949; 1951-1953; 1958), (10) Korea (1894-1896; 1904-1905; 1951-1953), (11) Panama (1895; 1901-1914; 1908; 1912; 1918-1920; 1925; 1958; 1964; 1989-), (12) Philippines (1898-1910; 1948-1954; 1989; 2002-), (13) Cuba (1898-1902; 1906-1909; 1912; 1917-1933; 1961; 1962), (14) Puerto Rico (1898-; 1950; ); (15) Guam (1898-), (16) Samoa (1899-), (17) Honduras (1903; 1907; 1911; 1912; 1919; 1924-1925; 1983-1989), (18) Dominican Republic (1903-1904; 1914; 1916-1924; 1965-1966), (19) Germany (1917-1918; 1941-1945; 1948; 1961), (20) Russia (1918-1922), (21) Yugoslavia (1919; 1946; 1992-1994; 1999), (22) Guatemala (1920; 1954; 1966-1967), (23) Turkey (1922), (24) El Salvador (1932; 1981-1992), (25) Italy (1941-1945); (26) Morocco (1941-1945), (27) France (1941-1945), (28) Algeria (1941-1945), (29) Tunisia (1941-1945), (30) Libya (1941-1945; 1981; 1986; 1989; 2011), (31) Egypt (1941-1945; 1956; 1967; 1973; 2013), (32) India (1941-1945), (33) Burma (1941-1945), (34) Micronesia (1941-1945), (35) Papua New Guinea (1941-1945), (36) Vanuatu (1941-1945), (37) Austria (1941-1945), (38) Hungary (1941-1945), (39) Japan (1941-1945), (40) Iran (1946; 1953; 1980; 1984; 1987-1988; ), (41) Uruguay (1947), (42) Greece (1947-1949), (43) Vietnam (1954; 1960-1975), (44) Lebanon (1958; 1982-1984), (45) Iraq (1958; 1963; 1990-1991; 1990-2003; 1998; 2003-2011), (46) Laos (1962-), (47) Indonesia (1965), (48) Cambodia (1969-1975; 1975), (49) Oman (1970), (50) Laos (1971-1973), (51) Angola (1976-1992), (52) Grenada (1983-1984), (53) Bolivia (1986; ), (54) Virgin Islands (1989), (55) Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003), (56) Saudi Arabia (1990-1991), (57) Kuwait (1991), (58) Somalia (1992-1994; 2006), (59) Bosnia (1993-), (60) Zaire (Congo) (1996-1997), (61) Albania (1997), (62) Sudan (1998), (63) Afghanistan (1998; 2001-), (64) Yemen (2000; 2002-), (65) Macedonia (2001), (66) Colombia (2002-), (67) Pakistan (2005-), (68) Syria (2008; 2011-), (69) Uganda (2011), (70) Mali (2013), (71) Niger (2013).
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
SsiolisP my point is, when did I repeat anything. I didn't mention a damn thing about ANYTHING you are talking about.
@SldOnEmWithDa45
7 жыл бұрын
Germans mastered this shit in the 40's...And they don't necessarily need to change to whole color they can paint green stripes or maybe white/green dots. The tan blends in pretty okay in any environment it just needs a little help.
@benrossy2k
7 жыл бұрын
Matsimus as for your thoughts of mud or something getting on the tanks. It would be rather easy to remove that stuff with the new hydrophobic spray. The mud will simply bounce off spray and not stick.
@crazycoyote7658
7 жыл бұрын
Effective or not, it just looks fucking badass!
@andysng83
7 жыл бұрын
Natural foliage FTW. But there are better alternatives then deploying tanks. I used to play Company of Heroes and I only used AT Guns, and MGs instead of big bulky tanks. I know it's a game. But in reality, depending on situation, like you mentioned in your video, to form a defensive line against enemy armored advances, well, it's easier to camo and hide AT guns. It's about digging in and holding the line. This gives the enemy a smaller target to aim and hit. But then again, the interior of modern tanks come with tonnes of battlefield, combat and communication systems. Natural foliage cost nothing; just time and effort. But in the eyes of a squad of well trained recons, they will still be able to spot tanks with natural foliage camo. So it all comes down to the mission objectives, what to expect, and good preparations.
@morgantilford7724
7 жыл бұрын
in the snow for bunking I'd sure want to take a snowblower and fluff a big drift over it.
@morgantilford7724
7 жыл бұрын
lol or have my friend with the Apache do a little fluff work.
@monetizationbot1056
5 жыл бұрын
video games taught camo would literally make you invisible
@Danspy501st
7 жыл бұрын
When you told about the camo/armour plating for the Leopards, then I did scream Denmark. I know our tanks has (had) them when they was sent out in Afghanistan. But I still think the old school camo is good too. Because no matter what kind of tech we get, then we still need to use our Mk. 1 Eyeball to see with
@ianian8022
6 жыл бұрын
yeah if the camo delays spotting/recognition for even a second it could change the outcome
@MatoVuc
7 жыл бұрын
the thing i hate about camoing up is having to remove it all every fucking time there is a break in the exercise and we have go back to base and park at the motorpool
@jonathanm6448
7 жыл бұрын
maximusgaming the 'stealth' camo you're talking about hasn't matured yet because of the problems you've mentioned. it's nice a dandy in testing in a controlled environment but combat vehicles get muddy, scratched, and damaged from the environment. The US Army approved the acquisition of the barracuda netting. reducing thermal signature is very important. We still have OD green camo but the desert tan is not really due to the available areas for training. it's because of deployments to the middle east. 29 palms for the US marines fort Irwin for the Army. most units however train at thier home stations then do a predeployment cycle through 29 palms or Irwin before deploying to theater. US likely won't change paint schemes unless it is really necessary. I know people think it's as simple as painting a car but not when you just paint a tank just for rotational exercises to Europe. I would say that us vehicles slotted to be stationed in Europe would receive a paint job to something more appropriate. those on rotation will probably not.
@rvstrocket
7 жыл бұрын
are we all just going to ignore the fact that one of the tanks is named "Cool Story Bro?"
@kolinmartz
7 жыл бұрын
Vehicles of units that have been stationed in temperate zones for a log time are painted in a woodland pattern.
@_Matsimus_
7 жыл бұрын
Not all of them. Its mainly down to the fact tanks will always be ready to be shipped somewhere. From deployment to overhaul they will mainly just send them in any colour they have on. Tanks for watching :-D
@marksedin4909
6 жыл бұрын
as a tank crew man at the IDF, i can say we don't use camouflage nets for the tanks because they lighted up and burns after a ATGM hits you, and the heat of the frontal engine.
@faltomjager5823
6 жыл бұрын
I am very excited for the camouflage against the eye. We should start pulling out of Afgiranapakistan, send more armor to East Europe and Germany and start painting them OD just to give them another one up.
@travisthetractor7570
7 жыл бұрын
Also the tank camo helps make it harder to aim for weak spots
@zepter00
6 жыл бұрын
Matsimus when you talked about natural camuflage ..you showed Polish Leopard 2 ... not german ones..
@dobiem1
7 жыл бұрын
I thought the US copied the German example from WW2, whereby, paint schemes were adapted to suit the local terrain. Although the physical colour change will work, I am not aware of how the overall vehicle thermal signature is affected, but I presume the paint would have some infra-red signature reduction. The netting and addition of dead vegetation is perhaps even more effective however, I suppose until you move
@ilskanondskan182
6 жыл бұрын
Great vid Matsimus! I don't know if someone already mentioned it but covering tanks with vegetation isn't just for visual camouflage, it's also for thermal. At least some types of vegetation provide thermal camouflage, like fir trees/spruce, like a poor mans Barracuda. You have to keep in mind that it is an organic material and you will have to replace after a day or so. It of course won't remove the whole signature but the intensity will decrease drastically and blend in with the surrounding terrain, and it will require a second or two more to be able to classify or identify the vehicle (and that's where you get shot). Especially in a cold environment where you can complement spruce with packed snow. Tips from a Leo2 TC. Keep up the good work
@lordemarsh6804
5 жыл бұрын
Americans are copying german leopards and camouflaging their abrams but just cant look as cool as the leopards..and you mentioned that it blocks the view of commander and such, of course it would those were american camouflaging their bradley
@cowpow16
7 жыл бұрын
there's just something hot about a 70 ton shrubbery.
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