I mentioned in a previous video how the Craft Racing Works CS5060 wheels were a bit unstable in the crosswind. Particularly the front wheel because of how light it is. This was an issue on both my Giant Propel and Tavelo Attack framesets. However, this has not been an issue on SL8. Perhaps the SL8 has in fact been engineered in a wind tunnel to account for this, or just maybe my bike position/geometry offers more stability. Who knows. But the wheel stability is much better on the SL8 than my other frames. Contact Panda Podium to order a set for yourself.
@8rk
3 ай бұрын
Had similar issue when I was riding my supersix (latest gen) with 60mm HED Vanquish wheels. I have some gnarly winds around me up in the mountains. Gusts that push the front of the bike unpredictably. I've ridden these mountains with high winds before with 60mm wheels so I was a little confused how much I was getting blown around. Since I switched to my SL8, with same wheelset, no issue at all. Ofcourse there's some push but nowhere near as bad. I think it's mostly the headtube. It makes a huge difference. All these aero giant deep / aero headtubes actually hurt your speed and stability in cross winds IMO.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@8rk I think you are right about the deep headtubes affect crosswind stability. I need to look into this further. Thanks for the breakdown.
@HeyWattsUpCycling
3 ай бұрын
the reverse feedback strength in the steering from wind input is mostly related the the rake & trail (tip in sensitivity) all other things being equal. But total mechanical arm reach (steering leverage) and weight bias front:rear also play a huge role. the other note is carbon spokes all suck in the florida 20+mph cross winds. they really do grab the wind
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@HeyWattsUpCycling fantastic breakdown. Thank you kind sir!
@ramonoslen6514
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me take a block spin on this bike, 100% agree with you, this bike rides like I was rubbing my hands against finest silk...keep up the great work!!
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
HALF!!!
@ks-vq5er
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the introduction of Speedy Decal! I just got my same Tarmac SL8 pro with this matte blue and I was just looking for a good decal as I wanted white logo. This was perfect timing! I just purchased white color decals
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Send a pic to my IG when you receive them!
@benjaminwolf9801
2 ай бұрын
The Specialized Tarmac is truly the benchmark all bikes are compared to and for good reason.
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
Yup
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Future weight weenie ideas: 1. Swap the current saddle for my 97g AliExpress fully carbon saddle 2. Change the Rival cassette to Sram Force 3. Upgrade the cockpit to an EXS Aerover system. That's about a 200 gram net savings. However, I just don't expect performance to change by doing any of this.
@TheBassallyear100
3 ай бұрын
it's an aesthetic hit but swapping the tires for the all black GP5000 will save you ~80g. you could possibly consider the Michelin Power TT tires too if you're running TPU tubes. They only come in 25mm but will blow out to about 28mm on your CRW wheels. Also have the benefit of the fastest rolling clincher tire available and save about 150g over those cream wall GP5000's. lastly, maybe hit Joe up and see if he will let you review a Cybrei or Skypivot crankset! another 150g to be saved there :p
@otterspacejam
3 ай бұрын
E1 Red crankarms will drop around 170g alone. From R2bike E1 Red 172.5 is 309g and D2 Force 170 is 476.2g.
@littlevo9
3 ай бұрын
Sur mon sl7 sworks j’ai monté le pédalier cybrei version capteur de puissance et plateaux carbone/pedales look carbon ti ,200gr de moins par rapport à mon dura ace/assioma. Le vélo fait 6.96 kg avec support garmin,deux portes bidons et pedale en taille 58. J’hésite à passer sur les craft car j’ai des rapide clx2 et j’ai peur que ce soit moins bien.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@TheBassallyear100 Man this is so helpful. I'm going to look into all of this, and report back later in the summer. Thank you!
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@otterspacejam I didn't realize the Red crankarms were THAT much lighter.
@thegoodwheel
3 ай бұрын
Nice job Patrick. What I like about your channel. Is the range of products you've tested and the different price points in the market. You have done a tremendous amount of legwork to catalogue this information. Everyone may not have or want to spend for western brands. The performance they can get from lesser known brands is "good enough". 👍🏾
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
I added a lot of "on the bike footage" just for you! Thank you Luis!
@andarenbici
3 ай бұрын
Hear hear
@mrbinc0
3 ай бұрын
I watched your other vid where you bought the sl8 and now I’m looking to get my own. I was not that convinced about that blue frame though. The decals were a very nice touch! The more I look at the beauty you built the more I like it
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
The decals are a game changer.
@seant9367
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I’m planning to ride an SL8 tomorrow. Tried the Trek SL7 Gen 8 this weekend, got the Pinarello next weekend. I wasn’t even looking at the SL8, but can’t deny all the amazing reviews I have seen on it. I’m not even on your level to even understand some of the things you have done, but it’s gonna be a fun learning journey. Appreciate your post…
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TheBassallyear100
3 ай бұрын
beautiful build! been patiently waiting for this after seeing your pics on weight weenies!
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by!
@wandafool1
3 ай бұрын
So glad you got a bike you really love! Been watching a few of your bang for buck build videos. Enjoy yourself sir!
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Thank you! It's a great bike and soooo comfortable.
@rudyelizondo1935
2 ай бұрын
I own the 2014 Cervelo R3 and it is fast and light and I’m still riding it about 7,000 miles later. Best bike even with rim brakes
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@sbellidog
3 ай бұрын
I have the exact frame (mine is the stock build from Specialized with Ultegra and Roval wheels) and what you say about speed is absolutely true. In my previous bike I only engaged the maximum gear available in certain situations... with this one I find myself looking for a smaller cog very often as the bike gets and maintains speed very easily. Great bike indeed.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@sbellidog it just floats over the roads!
@Hunttherider
24 күн бұрын
Nice work, loving the 'everyman' (and woman, and.. and...) build, appeals to the techie roadie within most of us. I've been looking at anything but the SL8, wanting to be a bit different, but after this vid I think I'm gonna have to give it a go! Btw, beard looks smooth!
@PatrickLino
24 күн бұрын
This is a very kind and well-thought out comment. Thank you! I am very flattered. Thanks for watching ❤
@bike_somm
3 ай бұрын
Awesome insight and depth in your vid! Very entertaining and informative. Been absolutely loving my Tarmac SL8, first road bike since my 2017 Giant TCR and it’s astronomically better in all roadie ways.. Climbs, Flats, Descents, Corners.. All the things! Good stuff and new Sub over here 😎🤌🏼
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for chiming in. Have a great weekend!
@paulweber624
28 күн бұрын
Hey bike_somm I have a 2017 TCR Advanced. I love how the bikes snap and handling. How comfortable (road noise and bumps) is the SL8 ride compared to the TCR?
@bike_somm
28 күн бұрын
@@paulweber624 yo, great question and all I can say is strikingly similar in all the best ways.. climbing, cornering, efficiency! But with all the greater benefits, Aerodynamic, Lightweight, and Compliant.. all the while allowing for 32 size tires in terms of frame clearance. All in all probably the best choice I’ve made for a new road bike considering all the other companies and options.. this is truly one bike to rule them all for my roadie needs and wants 🚴🏼💨🙌🏽😎
@paulweber624
28 күн бұрын
@@bike_somm appreciate
@RideWithGerben
3 ай бұрын
Your eye for detail is on point. Getting decals from Italy to match the originals. Nice!
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Thanks Gerben! I'm proud of how the build turned out.
@RideWithGerben
3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino It is so pretty. Agree with you on questioning the longevity of the frame, but man this thing looks good!
@logojones96
3 ай бұрын
First review to make me want this bike for real !
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Dang, I'm flattered. Thanks!
@Zozas_The_Cyclist
3 ай бұрын
Amazing review! I have the s works model and I've got to say the same thing: best bike I've ever ridden . There is just a minor aspect that I feel strange: do the wheel gets centered at the front fork? Mine is 1 mm closer to the DS and it looks It was by design. Does it happens the same at yours? Thanks and keep your amazing content!
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
I know folks have reported that on WW. Doesn't seem to be a problem on mine. At least aligning the front rotor was super easy too.
@damodamo7219
Ай бұрын
Luv the community service you provide Patrick, could you do a comparison video btn the sl8 & propel? tossing up btn the two
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
@@damodamo7219 thanks man. I’ve been dragging my feet making that comparison video, because I know it’s going to take some work. And is a very important video. Thankfully it’s in the works!
@MrAidanturvey
3 ай бұрын
Been waiting on this review. You said everything I felt about the bike. I’ve yet to ride a better bike
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
That co-sign is important. Thanks for watching!
@RobinSanks
3 ай бұрын
Man, I always thought the SL8 looked ugly but you made it look dope with your set up. I'm gonna try and run something similar for next year.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
The SL8 will not go down in history as the best looking bike ever. That's for sure LoL
@Shadowboost
3 ай бұрын
Any spacer at all and it looks like crap. Saw them side by side with the SL7s and preferred the SL7 in looks. But no doubt the SL8 rides better
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@Shadowboost thanks for watching.
@tmp1k
3 ай бұрын
lovely finish
@taxi9554
3 ай бұрын
Decals look great! Wow….have to keep this in mind for next bike. Just riding an sworks sl6….can imagine to switch to your sl8 frame. Sl6 is for me also the best road bike I have had until now….comfort and speed
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
The SL6 and Venge will go down in history for their looks. The SL8 will not LoL
@Hamsterlovers408
3 ай бұрын
Lovely video. Please consider having a video comparing SL8 vs Giant Propel. It will be interesting topic!
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
haha you already know this video needs to be made.
@lunathedog3924
3 ай бұрын
Yes I agree
@njm3211
3 ай бұрын
Beautiful ride. Cheers from Italy.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
thank you!
@Louisa_lvr
3 ай бұрын
Damnn, finally 👏👏👏. You make me get a propel bro. Hope im not changin to a tarmac because of this 😂. Btw any tips for the propel steerer? So i can avoid what you experienced. Thanks
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Have a local bike shop build it haha
@DevChannelVideos
Ай бұрын
The bike looks so much better with that decals, it's insane.
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
@@DevChannelVideos night and day. Specialized should have offered this from the factory
@kpizzle1985
3 ай бұрын
That build looks sharp! 👌 SL8 shares the same design philosophy as the Strada which also has really skinny seat stays. Had my Strada for 4 years now, I've have hammered the crap out of it and it's still spot on. Took a KOM of Ben Healy on it today 😎
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@kpizzle1985 hahah I love this comment!
@kpizzle1985
3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino I think we all know this is just a roundabout way of me letting everyone know I just took a KOM off a world tour rider 😅 Seriously though, the bike looks epic, you've got me wanting an SL8 again!
@Tim1768-r5r
2 ай бұрын
Great vid, thx. Exactly the config I’m going for 😎. SL8 in deep purple, SRAM Force 1by, but with an 48 tooth ring (hope that the carbon-ti ring fits the 1-by, another few grams for you 😉) and an EXS cockpit. Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪.
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@alexshiver7819
3 ай бұрын
I just ordered frame and Roval decals for my green Sl8 pro! Amazing video!
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
SEND PHOTOS WHEN BUILD IS COMPLETE!
@nationsnumber1chump
3 ай бұрын
a white SL7 for 3 grand with shimano 105. Intriguing. Tour magazine shows it just as fast as the sl8 if you add zipp wheelset. :D
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
INTERESTING. Gonna look into getting one LoL
@CycoWarriorx
3 ай бұрын
Gotta admit, I love the title… > 😎🥃
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Hahaha thanks g
@CycoWarriorx
3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino 🫡
@cornelhughes
24 күн бұрын
Patrick i ended up purchasing the sl8 frameset today. In the past my focus was on seka spear but i have to admit due to the price, sl8 is the safer better choice (more reviews , easier to purchase) However the spear in terms of looks seems more attarctive
@PatrickLino
24 күн бұрын
The more shrewd decision. Congrats!
@danielpichkar
3 ай бұрын
Great video! How does it compare to the Allez Sprint. I’m trying to understand if it’s worth making the jump from Alloy to Carbon. Is the ride feel / aero worth it?
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
It's worth it if you value weight, very comfortable road manners, agility, and just simply having the latest and greatest tech haha.
@larrypower8273
19 күн бұрын
Thank you. That was a great review.
@PatrickLino
19 күн бұрын
Thanks Larry!
@kentwong3818
3 ай бұрын
Awesome build Patrick!! I'm thinking of building one up too in the watermelon paint. How does this compare to the Allez Sprint? I know, it's carbon to alum and there's virtually no comparison but what about the fit etc? Which one feels snappier? Is it massively more comfortable than the allez? cheers
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
The SL8 is snappier if anything because of how light it is. Comfort is quite noticeable.
@86luisex
3 ай бұрын
Didn’t like the Matte color on the bike but those decals that u put on their just made me fall in love with the bike. i was leaning towards the black one but i think ima re consider. Beautiful bike 💪🏽
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Let me know what you deciiiiiiiiide.
@avnishnarayan1777
3 ай бұрын
Nice video! How does this compare to your Allez sprint?
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Snappier and better on rough pavement.
@suhdud4646
3 ай бұрын
From the editors note to the 6 week ago segement, bro hasnt aged a day.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@suhdud4646 no cracking around here
@jean-paulschmeitz5015
2 ай бұрын
Great video, own one as well, super happy with it!
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in!
@Bigkidbird4
3 ай бұрын
"How's my beard look?".. beards always look good!
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Moms love them!
@tonyg3091
Ай бұрын
Love the silver decals, totally changed the bike.
@decoherence926
3 ай бұрын
Dude, sweet SL8. Ima gonna spend some money now bro. How many road bikes do you have now?
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
DO IT!
@Skywalker793
3 ай бұрын
Interesting review. Do you have experience with the Canyon Ultimate to compare it with the Tarmac?
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@Skywalker793 what kind of bike is the Ultimate?
@werb24
3 ай бұрын
Crazy that Specialized has made a second tier frame that’s is better than basically every other companies top end frame. The pro is the best value in the industry.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
I understand now why the Tarmacs are so popular.
@baconegggandcheese
3 ай бұрын
Cleaaaaaannn setup bro !
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Thank youuuu!
@danielberry1635
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, very informative. From London.
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Daniel!
@soulsurfer8797
3 ай бұрын
Nice build! Have you been able to compare it to the S-Works model?
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
I'm poor.
@HeyWattsUpCycling
3 ай бұрын
sweet bike, I built a 6.8kg pinarello F5 to do the same kinda thing, "ultimate performance bang 4 buck bike build"
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@HeyWattsUpCycling wicked!!
@14Xaveco
17 күн бұрын
I have the same but SL7 also riding 1by Sram Force. I love it.
@PatrickLino
17 күн бұрын
@@14Xaveco nice! I ended up switching to 2x couple weeks ago ha
@juanm6947
2 ай бұрын
@PatrickLino, what type of cranks were you able to set up 1x? I am a bit confused about the chain line to do the same. Thx
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
Sram Force D2 crank arms. Sram/Quarq spider based power meter. PassQuest 1x chainring 👍🏾
@Mabbsg
Ай бұрын
Hi. Will there be a long term review soon? I am concerned about the lightness of this frame (it must be really thin in some places) and how does that affect its longevity? I would like to buy this bike but with the intention of using it for more than 5 years. I also read on the forums about a problem with the front fork (there is also at least one video on YT). Has anything like this happened to you?
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. No issues with my front fork. A super lightweight (disc) frameset with the intentions of using 5+ years probably isn't a shrewd idea. While I'm sure the frame will be fine over time, there are better and more robust options on the market if durability is your priority. Which it seems to be. This is the reason why Chinese brands can't compete with Western brands in terms of weight. A heavy bike will be more durable.
@ckspark2
3 ай бұрын
Nice bike. Did you choose matte or gloss graphics? Do those graphics look like horizontal lines in real life like they do on the camera?
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
How they look on camera is accurate 👍🏾
@cornelhughes
3 ай бұрын
Congrats man, you are now riding the BMW equivalent of road bikes. I take it the sworks would be the Ferrari eqivalent? The pro version frameset being twice the price of winspace t1550, is it twice as good? As said in another forum, I hope winspace takes the oppertunity to send you its latest t1550 so you can note the differences from t1500 and rate it in terms of your other bikes
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
The SWork version is lighter because the carbon is thinner. I can't imagine anyone being able to tell the 100-140g difference between the two SL8 versions. Once you hit the $1600 price point and beyond, the price-to-performace ratio is diminished.
@JH-iz6fk
5 күн бұрын
What's your saddle height?! great vid btw!
@PatrickLino
5 күн бұрын
77.5
@Dustydayzz
3 ай бұрын
8:18 what is you on my guy 😄. Every time u go out for a ride u will be stretching ur arms out to take the propel while looking at the sl8.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
English mutha luva, do you speak it!? 🤣
@jamesshields1969
3 ай бұрын
That kit is fire 🔥
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Monton's latest premium line: Valore ❤️
@jamesshields1969
3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino so damn clean
@Clashing0N
23 күн бұрын
Those decals look insane! What color exactly did you specify when placing the order?
@PatrickLino
23 күн бұрын
Olografico 27
@Clashing0N
23 күн бұрын
@@PatrickLino Thanks! Never truly loved the colour of my SL8 but with those stickers it's exactly what I'm looking for.
@PatrickLino
23 күн бұрын
@@Clashing0N Send me pics when the swap is complete!
@jrasero23
2 ай бұрын
Patty rank them. Tarmac SL 8, Giant Propel, Winspace T1500 series, Yoeleo R12, Allez Sprint. If I had to guess the Tarmac is #1 but what are the rest? Also in your opinion is the SL 8 Fact 10r frame worth $3500?
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
The SL8 Fact 10r is worth it if you value the aforementioned things in the video. To be light, stiff, yet comfortable and fast is a very difficult thing to do. The Chinese brands can usually get 2 or 3 of these things correct. But not all four. So the price of the SL8 is justified from that perspective.
@jrasero23
2 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino I think you have some of best content out there and thanks for the quick replies and honest reviews. I mentioned before I had a T1500 and now have a T1550 but also have a MY22 Scott Foil RC and I would agree that for my bikes the T1550 rear with those Zero SL bars are just super stiff, granted I was able to get even a mid tier Force D2 build with pedals and cages at 16.34lbs so IMO weight has never been the problem for the T1500. I think the rear stiffness borderlines on Cannondale SystemSix territory where for some people the comfort is prohibitive. Even my last gen MY22 Foil RC has a vastly more comfortable rear end compared to the T1500 series so I can't imagine the SL 8s comfort level. I have dulled down the rear feedback by going tubeless and changing the saddle to a super comfortable yet beefy SWORKS mirror saddle but that has pushed the weight with pedals and such to 17.11lbs. Any plans on doing some of the newer WInspace frames or you pivoting to more big brand Western brands now and focusing on ride content or just other direct to consumer Chinese parts that are non frame related?
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
@@jrasero23 I just dropped an unboxing video on the new Winspace SLC 3.0 frame. Go take a look! The bike has already been built, and can be seen on my IG. Full review of that coming soon.
@magicmatrix9216
3 ай бұрын
Hi Patrick I wanted to know if you can do a video on the TPU tubes that you use and the problems you have had with them
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
I have not any problems with my RideNowTPUs. 12 months 10,000+ miles later, no issues.
@magicmatrix9216
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for replying
@janemf
3 ай бұрын
i have an allez sprint that i replaced everything on and made it about the nicest allez i could own, and i have been on the fence about whether the tarmac is that much better - because they seem to have basically the same geometry? so your comparisons between the two are very interesting. thank you for this.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! The lightweight of the SL8 cannot be overstated, compared to my Allez Sprint. It’s very tangible out on the road.
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
3 ай бұрын
Of course - it should be better than the others.. I guess the more difficult question is -- are the improvements worth the additional money? What does an SL8 frameset cost? $3,500? It's a lot but still comparable various others. I just saw - the older SL7 is on sale. q full bike with 105 Mechanical and aluminum wheels is $3,000. That seems like a great price for a Specialized and I'd buy that over a lot of other options That said, I am a bit surprised that you say most all of the other frames you have don't even compare. I have a TCR and also have a really cheap gravel frame (like a $400 frameset) and with the same wheels doing the same road riding, the cheapo frame compares quite well (including doing timed tests up a long climb at similar power)
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
I was surprised too. I was not expecting the SL8 to feel that differently from my other bikes (regardless of price) but it's tangible. My Giant Propel is also very fast, but handles speed differently than the SL8. Perceived comfort is better on the SL8. Perceived stiffness is better on the Propel.
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino And the SL8 is way better than the Tavelo attack? I would have thought they should be very similar performance-wise
@lunathedog3924
3 ай бұрын
@PatrickLico comfort is better because tarmac has less agressiv stack to reach parameter
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@lunathedog3924 The angle of the top tube allows for more seatpost to be exposed. Which allows for more seatpost deflection.
@lunathedog3924
3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino ye, like giant tcr but tcr has same stack to reach. If you do divine stac reach you get around 4,08 in gisnt tcr/propel but in sl8 you get 4.16.
@DanTuber
3 ай бұрын
Congrats on the 10k subs. Did you go 1x because your area is flat?
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
The running joke on this channel, is how flat it is here in Chicago.
@morrisizing
2 ай бұрын
Interesting what it is that makes the Tarmacs (Sl7-SL8) rate so highly for ride quality. Obviously, most bikes are built in China, so you would presume the carbon technology used is the same and geometry should be easy to copy. So you wonder what the secret ingredient is for ride quality. Specialized had their wind tunnel, so it isn't a surprise for a lightweight bike that the aero aspect is well sorted and would be an advantage, particularly over Chinese brands.
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
My guess is 1. Actual consideration to the carbon layup 2. Frame construction consistency despite high production volume 3. They aren't using cheaper more readily available carbon like the budget brands. I'm told the price difference between (real) T1000 and T1100 is exponential. At least for now I guess.
@morrisizing
2 ай бұрын
@PatrickLino it would be interesting to know if certain brands might not use the same volumes of the more expensive carbon in their layups. I guess saying it has the more expensive carbon doesn't mean they used the same volume. As you note, once brands like Exceed or Tavelo start to factor in the same costs as the other brands their value benefit starts to deminish.
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
@@morrisizing I'd also like to know what percentage of the retail price goes to both marketing and R&D. For major Western brands that is. If the Tarmac SL8 frame costs $3500, employees probably getting 30% discount, where does that leave the remaining $2500?
@littlevo9
3 ай бұрын
Plein de gens en ont marre d’entendre tout le temps que les vélos de route Specialized sont les meilleurs mais malheureusement pour eux c’est la vérité. J’ai eu un sl6 sport,une sorte de premier prix chez eux,il était super et très leger ,ensuite un sl7 pro,une vraie bombe et enfin un complet sworks dura ace 2023 et vraiment c’est un vélo incroyable,ultra rapide d’un confort remarquable,il filtre le sol comme aucun autre . J’ai eu d’autres vélos mais vraiment les Tarmac sont vraiment au dessus du lot ,légers rapide accessibles à n’importe quel niveau.je ne pourrais jamais revenir sur un autre vélo,surtout que la géométrie me colle à 100%. Il y a plein de vélos performants mais aucun n’est aussi bon partout c’est ainsi …
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
I actually want to a SL7 now. Maybe I can get a frameset to compare.
@maximilianscholz685
Ай бұрын
Thx Patrick, is the decal color olografico? Regards from Germany
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
@@maximilianscholz685 yup 👍🏾
@dennishaughton4554
Ай бұрын
That’s a nice looking bike
@bevillenz
2 ай бұрын
Great review. May I ask your seat height on this setup. Thanks!
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
Around 77cm thanks!
@bevillenz
2 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino Thank you!
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
@@bevillenz Thanks for watching!
@DDGB08
2 ай бұрын
Great review
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
@@DDGB08 thanks for watching!
@zorcycle
3 ай бұрын
Nice setup. What's your height/saddle height?
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
79-80cm
@EddyCat1234
2 ай бұрын
Great looking bike. I feel the SL7 probably looks more balanced tho. The ‘Aethos like’ rear triangle of the SL8 diminishes the look a faction although I’m sure it adds compliance
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
I haven't ridden the SL7 so I can't comment.
@DDGB08
2 ай бұрын
You have nice cycling apparel, what brand is that?
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
@@DDGB08 thanks! Monton Sports. Code: PATTY15 gets you 15% off 👍🏾
@jdrake7039
3 ай бұрын
Great looking bike , nice 👌
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ricric9521
3 ай бұрын
Specialized Tarmac has destroyed the competition since the SL6 S-Works came out, which I owned. Before that, they had good geometry but were heavy and not aero.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@ricric9521 what do you ride now?
@stefanursulescu3664
2 ай бұрын
Hi Patrick, I just order the same frame, could you please tell me if the stem comes with a computer mount or you had to order that separately?
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
Yup comes with a mount that works with either the Roval cockpit or (included) SL7 stem.
@stefanursulescu3664
2 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino Thanks!
@edgarlim
29 күн бұрын
The start of the video reminds me of GC Performance 😂😂😂
@PatrickLino
29 күн бұрын
LoL that is the point 🤣
@firstname7780
12 күн бұрын
Very nice bike. I hope to get one, with dura ace to use the 54/4o. I am in 54t 36% of the time. Love the blue.
@PatrickLino
12 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@zachvana1734
Ай бұрын
I love your jersey! Can you drop a link to the brand?
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
My Kit: Monton Sports 15% off: FXpat15 www.montonsports.com/
@Jacob99174
3 ай бұрын
That color 😍
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
makes the decals pop even more.
@StanislavGrabchev
2 ай бұрын
What is the camera for the self filming on the bike?
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
@@StanislavGrabchev GoProooooo 9
@RubenRakow
Ай бұрын
Can you comment on your weight and height? Would be nice to know for size comparisons.. Cheers!
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
@@RubenRakow 6 feet tall
@RubenRakow
Ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino I am 6'1 would you still recommend the 56? or did you have ever tried the 58 version?
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
@@RubenRakow I would recommend comparing both the 56 and 58 to your current bike. Everyone has different needs and flexibility. A professional bike fitter is also a fantastic idea 👍🏾
@razorree
3 ай бұрын
bike looks amazing, but like SL7 and SL6 (just without integrated/hidden cables :/ ), no point on spending >10k on a new SL8 :/
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@razorree I didn’t spend anywhere near 10k 😂
@tmp1k
3 ай бұрын
i wonder why i haven't been able to get along with TPU tubes yet. had a few ride now ones that I went through pretty quickly. just haven't been reliable. must be installation issues. I suspect the tube is getting twisted up. just ordered some more from wheel science for another go at tpu.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Report back with your findings.
@patrickmonlevade4621
3 ай бұрын
Thank you brother
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Thanks Patrick ❤
@min867045
2 ай бұрын
我喜歡你的介紹還有你對自行車的熱情
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
thank u
@andy4g63
3 ай бұрын
Nice bike, have exactly the same, What color are the decals. Want to order same for my bike, LMK
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
"olografico-27"
@andy4g63
3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot... Do you refer to olographico-27,as the olographico-27 from Speedydecal catalog, once you click for the colors and you open HOLOGRAPHICO 27 and there is the blcka SL8 SWORKS??? Am I correct? Thanks
@hlobend2111
2 ай бұрын
how tall are you, your inseam, how much clearance over top tube do you have, frame size. Thanks.
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
Hi there - let me know what specifically you are looking for with this information. Thanks!
@gophersam
3 ай бұрын
That bike is gorgeous. It looks like it's moving while standing still.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
💨💨💨
@andrewwalsh4662
3 ай бұрын
I have the same frame fully built with (cages, pedals and computer) at 15.01lbs, Im actually glad when others im riding with or racing against don't have this frame, its that good. Enjoy!.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Wicked! What size?
@andrewwalsh4662
3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino 56, withe 54x42, 11/34 out back.
@andrewwalsh4662
3 ай бұрын
As you mentioned stiffness - a lot of people don't realize it has the exact same stiffness and compliance as an S-works, your paying extra for the thinner tubing to cut weight. I would rather a bit more stout frame and carefully choose my components to cut weight. I even added splashes of oil slick Ti bolts to cut weight further throughout the setup.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@andrewwalsh4662 Man that's a great take. Where did you buy your Ti bolts from?
@RylHango
3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLinosilca if I had to guess, they have many Ti accessories among their other top tier performance based products
@DarynRod
3 ай бұрын
I have just over 5000 miles on mine. It's in my will that I will be buried with that bike. 😅
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Haha now that's loyalty
@reinierabelarde6435
Ай бұрын
Have considered using a one size down frame set for sl8?
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
@@reinierabelarde6435 I would need like a 160mm stem haha
@peerapachliewatanakorn3055
3 ай бұрын
Is the headset adapter come in sets (the lower part the spacer part) or i have to order it piece by piece
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Only comes with the custom headset dust cover. Because the other Roval specific spacers are included with the frameset from Specialized.
@peerapachliewatanakorn3055
3 ай бұрын
Ok got it thank you
@mcgarvy7
Ай бұрын
Wow great looking bike, can I get one built as well lol
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
Haha thanks for watching
@mcgarvy7
Ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino did u find it cheaper to build the bike compared to buying it at the store
@PatrickLino
Ай бұрын
@@mcgarvy7 Budget wasn’t a consideration. My objective was to build a very customizable bike with niche components. That and because I need 140mm stem. I got a great deal on the groupset too, so it probably came out to be both cheaper (and lighter) in the end.
@joemendozaCAN
2 ай бұрын
What’s the weight with pedals or with complete components?
@PatrickLino
2 ай бұрын
@@joemendozaCAN 7kg
@StellarTitan
3 ай бұрын
Ztto xdr cassette on Ali!Lighter than force.
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
Nice! How is shifting performance, how long have you been using yours, and which cassette range did you get?
@TheCyclissimo
3 ай бұрын
Is this a Yoeleo?
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
I promise to never change, if you promise to do the same as well.
@marcustan5868
3 ай бұрын
How does this compares to the aetos man🎉
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
I haven’t ridden the Aethos.
@alexp247365
3 ай бұрын
Is it possible to ride to Rockford from Chicago by bike?
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
The 115 mile solo ride I did was Chicago to Rockford to Freeport. It's very possible and actually quite safe.
@alexp247365
3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino You are now my Hero. I live in Arizona now, but was raised in Rockford/Loves Park and moved away long before I found cycling. Cheers!
@PatrickLino
3 ай бұрын
@@alexp247365 Im a come down there. In the fall though haha
@decoherence926
3 ай бұрын
@@alexp247365 Moving down to Tucson from Chicago. Have you ridden that Loop? Difficult to find safe road riding in chi-town
@peterssc12
3 ай бұрын
Hi Patrick. The feeling of going faster than the person in front of you is called "drafting". Hope this helps! Love, Scott
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