200 bucks. haha. They're like 700 now, just four years later...
@theprogrammerrolandmc3039
2 жыл бұрын
they are not even worth 200 i would not buy a 8 track recorder really stupid idea squeezing 8 tracks on a tape 8 track of hiss and half the sound quality of a 4 track . It baffles me the recording the guy had made in the video and how people like this only buy these to make youtube videos and think the price of these 8 tracks are worth the price used.
@davidsapir3764
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing piece of equipment, and so easy to use.
@gameloozer731
6 жыл бұрын
I just bought this same model used. I’m a kid of the 2000’s so tape is something kinda new to me. I’m upgrading from a 424. I’ve been having a hard time finding detailed videos about these and this is just what I was looking for. Thank you!
@Outdoorshuntingshooting
5 жыл бұрын
I bought one years ago off ebay for £100, worked great until I left in the loft for 10 years. What happened was the cogs siezed onto the pins that support them. I repaired myself, I also changed the capstan drive belt, (was still OK, but as I had the machine apart I thought it best.) They are the only issues I am aware of.
@stevebeye1585
3 ай бұрын
Keep your 424! If you can!
@71tbomb
3 жыл бұрын
I have to admit. You have explained the desk very well. It took me a long time to work out what seems simple now, things like tape cue & phantom power. Assigning tracks. Very Important on a Tape recording desk. I do like this vid. Well done.
@MalcNedd62
4 жыл бұрын
I used one of these for years and I loved it.
@MostlyPennyCat
2 жыл бұрын
And now I've bought my very own 488 mkii. At an incredible (low) price! It's mint condition because it's been regularly serviced over the years (😱😱😱) The reasons I got mine: 1) I'm a software engineer by trade, I don't want my hobbies to involve computers if they don't need it. 2) I was taught how to make music on multitrack tape and a studio mixer with some outboard 3) This is the fun way for me, all DAW setup is boring to me, sitting and staring and clicking
@huuing
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I’m so glad you were able to score a nice one. Enjoy!
@MostlyPennyCat
2 жыл бұрын
@@huuing Thanks! Back in '95 I took A-Level (A levels get you into university) Music Technology. Large part of which was how to use a studio. We had a tascam ¼" 8 track, a 24 channel mixer and some vintage outboard. That's what this is for, to recreate an old style studio. Heavenly, we would sit in the booth all day, sampling cool sounds with our Emu ESI-32 rack mount sampler. Fancy one with 8mb of RAM, enough for 45 seconds!! 😱 Needed 8 floppies to save 8 megs of sample data. One of our teachers even donated 2 synths for teaching subtractive synthesis. They were... A Roland System 100m 😳😳😳 And an EMS VCS 3 😱😱😱 I'm making do with a Microbrute first! 🤣
@MostlyPennyCat
2 жыл бұрын
It's the immediacy I love. Switch on, start laying down tracks. Wonderful.
@SeanLaMontagne
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I inherited one of these from my grandfather and have been dying to learn how it worksk. Thanks for making this video, its the first thing that came up when I searched this boards name.
@MostlyPennyCat
2 жыл бұрын
If memory serves correct, just above the track level slider there's "Assign" buttons. These choose your track/group for that channel. The sign button chooses a track pair, then the pan chooses which of those two to record to (or both of course with center pan) I think.
@SeanLaMontagne
2 жыл бұрын
@@MostlyPennyCat that sounds about right, this is a pretty neat machine and having explored using it in various modern setups for the past year has been really fun. It did take me way too long to realize that Group 1&2's outputs don't have an amplifier the wya Group 3&4 is routed to the headphone amplifier. I would set the faders both to 0, but the headphone output would be a million times louder. This made streaming weird, because I would use the group 1 and 2 for my headphones, and group three and four would go to my computer for streaming. So I would be cranking everything just so I could hear, and my friends would be ripping their head phones off from how unbelievably loud it was
@MostlyPennyCat
2 жыл бұрын
@@SeanLaMontagne Yep, it certainly has its little foibles. I own a 488 MK1 but I've both used it yet We had the 4 track version at school. But we also had a 16 channel 8 group mixer and an 8 track ¼" Tascam reel to reel as our main teaching unit. My school music department had A Level Music Technology and that was great fun. Useful practical course, how to run a studio, close mic, open mic, FX, midi, performance. Fantastic. Once we get a house, my wife and I, I will be building a DAWless studio because I'm a software engineer by trade, I want no computers on there.
@MostlyPennyCat
2 жыл бұрын
@@SeanLaMontagne And I do modular analogue synth design too. Thinking of coming up with was a few modules and selling them a DIY kits
@mikethebloodthirsty
4 жыл бұрын
Love these, I have a few of them... It's sad that they're going for so much now. Even the Tascam porta 02s have shot up in price...
@MostlyPennyCat
2 жыл бұрын
I just got a mint condition 488 mkII with full service history for £300!!! 🤩🤩🤩 $365 but it's much more often just a straight £ to $ over there, so $300 So excited, I'm off for a drive to collect it's week Saturday, 210 Mike round trip! 🤣 ROAD TRIIIIIP!! 😎
@oinkooink
Ай бұрын
Cassette tape can sound pretty bloody good. Especially if you keep it simple and have a great song and arrangement and good recording processes.
@spooktasticaparanormal
4 жыл бұрын
Hello friend, I have the 488mk1 and I have to agree that both machines are just great. I've achieved great sound quality of sound too with various recording techniques. Thanks for sharing. Kind regards. Paul.
@cavewerk
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing tutorial! Thanks man!
@superfuzzymomma
6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you're post here, Friend, since theres NO manuals seemingly anywhere In 2018
@Outdoorshuntingshooting
5 жыл бұрын
I have the original manual.
@rw4273
2 жыл бұрын
I picked up one of these that works great looks mint along with a headphone amp , a mic pre, a sm57, a little digital mixer and a bunch of cords for 200 bucks.....I win...great video btw
@titmusspaultpaul5
Жыл бұрын
Great review. Loved my 4 track Tascam and would love one of these. Can you send individual tracks to a DAW (or the stereo mix) so you can master in a DAW and clean things up.... get it to a higher quality recording?.... thanks.
@huuing
Жыл бұрын
Short answer is no, but there a workaround that’s I don’t care for (google it, someone posted it online). I ended up sending the unit off to someone that modified it so that it now has 8 direct outs. I can plug it to my Soundcraft Signature MK22 and record all 8 tracks to my DAW at once. Love it!
@jakejensen6465
5 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video
@tria6638
3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to record the actual panning for each track? Essentially use the mixer section as a full on mixer.
@mackmccord3743
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome information! Finally got one yesterday after years of searching for the right one and price. How do you record from input 1 into channel 2 and 3 and 4? You kinda glazed over that part a little.
@71tbomb
3 жыл бұрын
WOW. Press all the buttons at once & see what happens. Force open the tape cover. Way to look after a nice machine. I'm repairing my 688 atm & I never treated it like this. Anyway these are an amazing desk. Glad I kept mine even after I went digital. cool thing is mine is a 688 MIDISTUDIO so I can run it with a digital program. If you know how. I'm using Pro Tools 10. Cheers Y/all.
@nichtimmer9134
3 жыл бұрын
Nice one!!! ...but 8 channel on cassette? I think thats realy to small... ...i get a fostex A8 LR 8 track 1/4" tape for recording becouse i love it and tape cost! ...my main one is a tascam ms16 1" tape (1" 16 channel) tape maschin. I can also tell that the teac 2340 or 3340 are good one (rtr 1/4" 4 track) or some tascam 1/2" 8 track! ...but as i said, dount worry about the many channal about small tape (1/8" approx), its a keeper and realy nice maschine you get! Have fun on record and love her! ...i would love that nice one ;) greetings
@petrashevskycircle
2 жыл бұрын
Can you record instruments straight into the recorder eg plug in a guitar or do you have to go through an interface?
@nichtimmer9134
3 жыл бұрын
Nice and beautyfull maschine!, friend!!!!! ...hold it and love her ;)
@Mark761966
2 жыл бұрын
Better looking than the Mk I. Black is never out of style
@zulusound
5 жыл бұрын
Curious how you record 4 tracks at once? I don't see how to assign inputs 1-4 to tracks 5-8. Thx
@huuing
5 жыл бұрын
e schiller - you can arm any four of the eight tracks by pressing the corresponding buttons under ‘record function’. You can press any of the four buttons to arm up to four tracks at once. Hope this helps.
@gelosilente
4 жыл бұрын
I'm just speculating, but probably it makes tracks of half height than normal...
@jacques_koffaltretes
Жыл бұрын
@@gelosilente Actually a normal cassette uses 2 channels for side 1, and 2 channels for side 2. Split tape into 4 tracks and you flip to play. This device has 4 record/8 play heads to write to side 1. You never flip the tape. So it uses half the mag tape width of a normal cassette for each track, and it makes up for that by running at twice the speed of a regular cassette player. Effectively allowing same amount of mag tape surface area for each track. It requires high bias cassettes due to faster speed and less writing area.
@thisdjdada
2 жыл бұрын
The price on 4 tracks have sky rocketed.
@speedunknown
Жыл бұрын
What type of raising was your machine ? I want to buy one, but I don’t want to buy a worn out model. Please advise?!? 👍🏿
@huuing
Жыл бұрын
At this point they are all over 30 years old, I think the best thing to do is to ask questions before you buy and don’t spend too much. Chances are drive belts should be changed and there is a plastic gear inside that is known to wear out. Mine was in good shape but I had those things replaced. A well maintained machine sounds good but it’s still a cassette, but it’s a great tool for sketches and basic multitrack work. Good luck!
@technopriest8686
5 жыл бұрын
These are so hard to find.
@Bridging_the_Political_Divide
Жыл бұрын
First, terrific review, well done. Second, it's interesting this resurgence in, not just tape (large reel to reel is certainly to be respected), but a resurgence in cassette, which is horrible sound quality compared to digital. Tape warmth? I concede this point, however the subtle aspect of tape warmth is quickly overwhelmed with the terrible sound properties of cassette. Narrower frequency range, noise floor, lack of high end dynamics, wow and flutter, etc. Let's be honest, cassette, while a durable format, has terrible sound quality. I think those who choose to do cassette multitrack recording, are doing it as they find it quirky and interesting, certainly not sound quality. A $150 used 8 track Tascam DP-02 utterly destroys these, and burns its own CDs. That all being said, even I find cassette multitrack recording interesting for some bizarre reason, and have to smack myself back to reality. I wish cassette could be a real player in the recording game, but its just not. Now, a nice reel to reel like a TSR-8, ok, we're in a much better discussion....
@promotedtocustomerr
5 жыл бұрын
Hey man how did you get drums to record on this thing
@huuing
5 жыл бұрын
On that recording I used a drum machine.
@ashooby
4 жыл бұрын
How is the hiss/noise when you have 8 tracks recorded all together? Is it pretty bad?
@Nvelopmusic
4 жыл бұрын
Mine has significant hiss on 5 to 6 tracks, probably much more than in this video. One of things I like about it is the very organic sounding distortion that occurs when the tracks clip, or whatever happens with the tape. If you want to hear an example: soundcloud dot com/nvelop/the-letter-s A cleaner example: soundcloud dot com/nvelop/lovers-expansion-mix-2
@ashooby
4 жыл бұрын
@@Nvelopmusic thanks!
@gorillabraudcast474
5 жыл бұрын
Aka drone machines
@powerseostrategy
5 жыл бұрын
My question is, why does the volume on your voice sound clear and close and then distant?
@huuing
5 жыл бұрын
Probably because I’m doing this review live while holding my iPhone.
@truthfinder4973
3 жыл бұрын
this a work good with a daw and interface with ins and outs. case you can do things in the daw then send to this. then i would mix it to a analog mixer pass this recorder. thats how the pros do it then and now they mix outside the daw with a analog mixer. that got inserts and aux and buss then back in the tape after . pro's back in the day tape after they recorder all takes then to the mixer then they mix it then had tape to record it again from the mx .so if you record the tracks to this recorder from daw then mix out side it then mix the record to tape after that you a do it like they did then, a nother trick back in the day for a cheap dat use vhs with hi-fi. for the master tape after the analog mixer.
@mackmccord3743
3 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you would really love to sell this to someone that really needs it. It'll be in great hands! Great video btw 🕶️💜
@ineedstuff8286
3 жыл бұрын
200$ or less!!! hahah WOWWwww not happening :)
@planetablog5504
3 жыл бұрын
That's right! You can't find a device like this for less than $800 plus shipping
@christhedemocrat
3 жыл бұрын
@@planetablog5504 Theres one on Facebook Market Place for $40 I bought a Tascam mf-p01 for $25 It's in mint condition
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