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@randyseale2010
Жыл бұрын
This is a great review. My experience... I have all of the TC 6000 Native Plugins and 3-System 6000 MKI's and one MKII! All of mine have Mastering, Stereo and Multichannel Reverbs, and the incredible Massenburg HI-Res MDW eq. The Massenburg sounds much better than the plugin I have also. I think TC discontinued the Massenburg for the System 6000. Comparing the plugins to the 6000 hardware, the hardware wins for me. There's a gentleman that has done a comparison like I did and also agrees that the hardware wins. You would not know this unless you have used them both. The Native MD4 does add a couple of other controls but...not enough for me to dump my hardware. Also, the MD4 and VSS4 is a processor hog if you want multiple instances. It's sad that BEHRINGER.... has abandoned the 6000 Hardware development and maybe the plugins too. I've dove deep into my hardware and have come up with some ways to make mine fairly future proof. As far as VSS4 HD Reverb in the hardware it is great. But, I have a Bricastic which totally wins for rooms and vocal reverbs. MD4 for mastering with my hardware unit is a straight up WINNER!! Good review!
@sandranoonan3141
Жыл бұрын
I love this song with the female voice and acoustic guitar, just perfect, as is this plugin, very transparent
@AndreasTsachidis
Ай бұрын
i think it's time for a TC Electronic - VSS4 HD Native Reverb versus Relab - VSR REV6000, and a LiquidSonics - Cinematic Rooms as a runner up maybe. Would be a banger comparison of the most real-life sounding reverbs ITB.
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
Both brands make insanely good verbs
@rickblackers88
Жыл бұрын
I bought this plugin couple years ago and never touch it since then, until now. This video changed the game for me. Thanx and congrats!
@bassguitar2709
Жыл бұрын
Love the Star Trek Next Generation UI, sounds great too, love hear a shoot out vs Softube Weiss
@remochiun266
Жыл бұрын
Haha was also about to comment on the TNG UI.
@IntheDAW
Жыл бұрын
I love this video. The track is good and the processing sound so freaking transparent.
@briancase6180
Жыл бұрын
Ahh! I'm so happy you're bringing attention to these! I found these a couple years ago and kept missing the summer sale. Last summer, I caught it. I bought the whole bundle, which is overkill, but I use md4 with a fixed preset often. It just works and sounds incredible. The reverbs are GREAT. As you say, smooth is the adjective for all the TC electronic stuff. If you catch the sale, you can get "everything" for $695 (if I recall correctly). BTW, that's an AMAZING song....
@AlexTritok
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH ! I was desperately looking for an extensive explanation of these 2 plugins. Best "tutorial" on the subjects ever.
@jamespingel8730
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, it's so rare a master needs some reverb. But when it does and you can pull something high quality out of your toolbox to do the job, you'll be glad to have something like this around (I'm an SP2016 man myself). I've mastered probably close to 500 songs at this point and I think I've added reverb on two or three, for reference. And one of those it was automated out, so it was only on the intro before the drop.
@drajvimo4186
Жыл бұрын
I have a TC Reverb 4000 in my system which is a lovely reverb unit and I always was wondering what a 6000 system is capable to do. I will look for it this way and I believe it will bring me a good picture of possibilities. Thanks for making this David!
@endonyxoneaudio8644
Жыл бұрын
I've tried out these plugins and boy do they sound FANTASTIC. The main reverb is pretty epic also how much cpu it burns up 🥵
@imremozsik1012
Жыл бұрын
Finally someone made a decent video on these plugins! Thank you so much!
@Phat-Monkey
Жыл бұрын
The MD4 does some magic before turning any knobs, well worth the purchase.... :)
@joost3783
Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough those are some of the least talked about but best tools ever. I almost feel like people wanna keep them a secret! I got all of em and love em. Also the VSS3 is great it's not such a resource hog while still having the classic sound and even more flexibility when it comes to room shapes etc.
@maxborosiuk3570
Жыл бұрын
Hello David! Thank you very much for the deep dive in your videos. I’m watching a lot of your episodes. But today you picked very much interesting thread for me - tc electronic stuff… I was recently comparing a quality of compression&limiting up to 8lufs by plugins and tc finalizer… and to my big surprise - Finalizer processed track with a headroom and breath in a sound, and plugins made track squashed…and that made me very curious of what the exact heck is goin on ))) I was literally asking myself if I need to continue investing in other limiters… I do understand that it’s very subjective comparison, but … that outdated box by tc electronic made -8lufs sound very good. And I’m very curious about tc software for mastering, they definitely know about this sphere a lot…😅
@mickynoise
Жыл бұрын
Plugin is great but comparing to my 6000 it does not null and the hardware sounds slightly better. But plug-in is really powerful as well
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
Actually, they found some bugs in the original algorithm that have been fixed with this.
@BiggHope
Жыл бұрын
David - discussing here bout Tc system 6000 & it's comparative plugin. Le me - mixing and mastering my own produced songs that too in the box without any analog gear, then comparing them with top charting hits & trying to find the reason of difference in sound 😂😭💀
@fleshtonegolem
Жыл бұрын
Parallel mode on the MD4 is the sex DAMN!
@kylenwilliams7867
4 ай бұрын
I recently bought the VSS4 helpful video 👍 not quite sure I understand what the gloss is doing but I can hear it
@MOSMASTERING
Жыл бұрын
The only problem with MD4 that I have is that it is so insanely powerful, you can completely ruin a master if you don't know what you're doing. I'm a mastering engineer and still struggle to not overcook a master using MD4.
@pongtrometer
Жыл бұрын
WOW , the smoothness on parallel
@antcall6779
Жыл бұрын
The source pan is incredible! Does any other plugins have that? Great as always David 🤘
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
Not that I can think of
@antcall6779
Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv thanks David. That feature is worth having by itself let alone how great it sounds. In a world of countless plugins all doing the same thing having one like this is what people should get.
@uriel-heavensguardian8949
Жыл бұрын
Awesome informative video!!!!!
@RobinZV1
Жыл бұрын
The MD4 looks pretty great. I love what the Toneprojects Unisum does but I recognize they are different beasts. For reverbs, I’ve shot this out against Seventh Heaven Pro and Cinematic Rooms Pro from Liquidsonics and I wasn’t swayed. Nice examples, though.
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
7th heaven was a bit of a disappointment
@RobinZV1
Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv Meh. To each their own.
@aleksamrkela831
Жыл бұрын
Glad I got to learn more about one of my favorite reverbs!
@gwsound
Жыл бұрын
Got this and more on the Powercore platform from TC. They stopped the support 15y ago (?) or so. Still have the unit stored.
@azuraldotv
Жыл бұрын
It's a shame, that was a Big thing.
@SurrendertheEctypeofficial
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown David
@DieselMatthew
Жыл бұрын
I still have old computer and firewire powercore card with md3. I run audio thru it from time to time and really miss it in my new setup :(
@fausto_colella
Жыл бұрын
hey David, did you try the Relab VSR REV6000 ? you can request it (as owner of discontinued VSR-S24), is still in beta but already pretty stable, it's really awesome, check it out!
@st33Npuist
Жыл бұрын
Bob Katz.
@MikeyPressure
Жыл бұрын
Great song
@dkokalanov
Жыл бұрын
@MixBusTV I see you are using mid-field monitors by Eve Audio. Could you share your experience in a nutshell and mention why you pick it instead an Adam Audio or HEDD alternatives?
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
They're mains, not midfield, the biggest model available. And they're amazing. There are several interviews I did about my monitors
@dkokalanov
Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv Thank you! I'll look for the videos with the interviews.
@lukasgruber1280
Жыл бұрын
GUI corresponds with Starfleet regulations
@GingerDrums
Жыл бұрын
HAHA Thats what it was!
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
It was openly inspired by it, from the developers mouth
@chazanthony6319
Жыл бұрын
Great review, as per usual. Grazie!
@bluefAng
Жыл бұрын
Some people on Gearspace say that the TC Electronic reverbs and limiters don't sound the same as the hardware versions, even being all digital. I wonder how much of that is nitpicking...
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
They should probably realize the "hardware version" is a digital unit lol
@azuraldotv
Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv interssting! But what about the electronic circuits and chips that Come with, doesn't it have an impact?
@RobinZV1
Жыл бұрын
Probably the old AD/DA.
@leirumanuel
Жыл бұрын
Maybe a masterclass for subscribers about mastering with the 6000?
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
Yes we can do that!
@tsewaivideos
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for illustrating some settings that I don’t know before. Can use of my old machine but still waiting for M1 compatible version to use on my new Mac
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
It's coming soon
@ezrashanti
Жыл бұрын
Obviously not. Basically abandonware. And I own the bundle. Dissapointing.
@RJ1J
Жыл бұрын
TC Electronics copied Star Trek's computer display UI called LCARS exactly. It's weird and off putting. Wish they had done a modern display. LCARS is from the late 80s.
@jacobsmith1877
Жыл бұрын
Haha I just had to look this up and you are definitely right. I really don't like this UI
@RJ1J
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobsmith1877 They are some hardcore Star Trek: The Next Generation Trekkies at TC Electronics. So weird.
@MOSMASTERING
Жыл бұрын
I think it's a pretty unique looking GUI. I don't mind it at all. I'm not a huge fan of analogue hardware recreations when you can do so much more on a computer. Why not make it look interesting.
@tobiasolivermusic
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video 👍
@djsilent01
Жыл бұрын
David, how often do you use your X-Touch one? I’m trying to determine if all I need it the One or an X-Touch.
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
Always, all the time
@djsilent01
Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv you have been a mixing inspiration since I joined your channel. Because of you the Black Box and the Maag Eq4 stay on my chain. I can’t afford most of what you have. But the tools I was able to get have been helpful.
@MustacheVerra
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@bontempo1271
Жыл бұрын
25:41 is that Bella Kelly singing ?
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
Yassss
@bontempo1271
Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv omg. She is nailing a different style so well i wasn't quite sure it was her, despite some of those recognisable soft tones. This little part gives me chills, right in the pocket of emotion. At times reminds me of Stevie Nicks. Bella appears to have an effortless natural phrasing which is right on the money. I can imagine the right song at the right time could easily be a classic. Man the industry sucks right now lol.
@user-kf7tu3bz7m
Жыл бұрын
THANKS!
@MixByRek
Жыл бұрын
Where in the master chain would you put this?
@shademay403
Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@grahamfenton1619
Жыл бұрын
Davy G what's that first tune? Sounds pretty nice!
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
That's Bella with Monte Pittman, the song will be released soon
@johnklischner4205
Жыл бұрын
Hi David, I been following you since your inception but I never posted before to ask for favor, forgive me for asking cause I know might cost much but can you please review Hum audio LAAL limiter, I know some other already did it on KZitem, truth is, same like when going to a doctor, and I always considered you top when comes to these things, if am gonna spend nearly $10k on this piece I would like your usual deep review and what you think about the unit. Thank you!
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
Askt them John, not me. Tell the company and we'll make it happen
@johnklischner4205
Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv Ok, I will do that. Thank you.
@MixedByDotRob
Жыл бұрын
It's good. But it's old ... not updated in ages. If BehringerTC finally would release a M1 version, I would be in again! ;-)
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
It's actually updated. They had to when porting to native. Limiter algo, clipper algo and more is actually improved. Also M1 support is coming in a few weeks
@MixedByDotRob
Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv thx! Good to know that a M1 version is coming!
@ezrashanti
Жыл бұрын
Not.
@sandranoonan3141
Жыл бұрын
Who is the artist?
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/uquIvHivgH5hiY4 my fiancee
@GodwinProductionsLA
Жыл бұрын
5 band mutli comp is worth the money alone. Wow.
@ignacedhont9816
Жыл бұрын
Beware, these might be abandoned ware soon. No updates for a long time, no M1 compatibility.. check gearspace.
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
M1 is coming in a few weeks, the website page is already prepared
@MrlegendOr
Жыл бұрын
give us remote control and i will buy
@gr8musiclover
Жыл бұрын
These plugins might be good but tc electronics plugin development team is sleeping since two year and not releasing updates for Mac native processors. WAKE UP TC ELECTRONICS!!!!
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
They just announced Clarity M1/M2 compatibility twitter.com/tcelectronic/status/1636397234362241024 They're not sleeping, Apple is horrible company. Think if you were a developer and constantly have to re-code all your s4hit because every 3 month they make it impossible for software to run on their OS, and have to do it on your dime. People decide to still use Apple, this is what they get
@gr8musiclover
Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv Please go through tc KZitem channel or any reviews public domain you will know how frustrated people are!!! It would be great if you first research before promoting these plugins. I was a user of tc finalizer and reverb 4000, but now it seems like it's not serious about customer's feedback. How are other companies releasing Mac native updates? These are not cheap plugins, if they are tagging it on the premium side they can't give excuses like mac is terrible this n that. Do others also complain? Mac shifted from intel to native processors two year before. If they only gave us one native update, that would have solved the problem. Abusing Mac for new fast M processors is not a good thing 😝
@RealHomeRecording
Жыл бұрын
DELAY...Delay...delay.....
@JS_97
Жыл бұрын
Hurts my heart that TC Electronic plugins are not Apple Native😒
@mixbustv
Жыл бұрын
Soon, the page is already on, a few weeks and they will
@briancase6180
Жыл бұрын
I can say even without being native, they work very well with Apple silicon now. So don't let that hold you back. ✅
@-CD-Entertainment-TV
Жыл бұрын
I felt very sorry for you for a moment. I thought oh my god what happened to you. I have to say it was very good acting.😢😊
@3d8d
Жыл бұрын
My ears are not even that good to hear such subtle differences 😂🤣
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