When striking is allowed, BJJ is almost useless when you're on your back. Getting submissions from full guard when someone is throwing punches down at you is extremely hard to do. Champions like GSP have great BJJ and have a great guard, but they never choose to go on their back. People these days just don't understand that in MMA and especially on the street, the guy on his back trying to work his submission game is usually the guy that gets his ass kicked. (PART 2)
@ahmadbilali3410
7 жыл бұрын
For stand up fighting: Muay Thai, for bringing the opponent to the floor: Wrestling, for fighting on the ground: BJJ!!! Forget all the rest!!
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
The point is Catch Wrestling isn't as nearly as spread as BJJ,mostly due to its relative low state of acknowledgement as most people don't even know Catch Wrestling exists,while on the other hand BJJ is advertised almost everywhere.You can't find a catch wrestling school anywhere in America,aside from CSW which has more arts in its teaching resume.Oh and the CW instructor is Josh Barnett.
@ENJager
11 жыл бұрын
On the whole, I'd say that combat Sambo is just a more complete, flexible martial artform because it incorporates ground work with grappling and striking whereas to me, BJJ seems very focused on just the ground-game (and some grappling?). Combat Sambo techniques also seem to produce stronger fighters overall, another edge. That said, BJJ is still useful to those that can't "out-strength" their opponent, so it's good for smaller, quicker people, kids, women and the elderly for basic self-defense.
@kubikiribasara3499
10 жыл бұрын
they are not giving the BJJ guys a chance to work the ground game. On some matches no sooner do they hit the ground the ref blows the whistle
@gilionazog7822
5 жыл бұрын
En la calle esté combate sería un ko los 10 segundos, el golpe contra el suelo duro sería definitivo, los de bjj se confían mucho ya que están en un tatami pero..., en la calle sería otra historia.
@bewalker25
2 жыл бұрын
En calle no hay kimono
@gilionazog7822
2 жыл бұрын
@@bewalker25 Hay ropa y te aseguro que un judoka te agarra y vuelas, ko asegurado.
@erisongomes9552
10 жыл бұрын
o golpe encaixado o juiz para a luta kkkk zuado
@aaronramsden1657
7 жыл бұрын
both sports are amazing
@JesusLopez94
12 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally someone understands. Well I actually think BJJ is one of the greatest martial arts if not the greatest, but so many BJJ guys just don't understand that on the street or even in MMA, being on your back is not good. BJJ good is only with the right game plan. The Gracies were undefeated for so many years, but they always stayed on top, they only used techniques from the guard when they really had to. (PART 1)
@АндрейАлександрович-х4з
5 жыл бұрын
Да Грузинская школа борьбы, далека от русского САМБО. Русское САМБО нужно как минимум защищать Российским мастерам этого вида единоборства
@judorican973
10 жыл бұрын
Why are ppl saying bjj is better? It's limited to the ground. There are two types of sambo combat & sport.
@Felipeddd1988
10 жыл бұрын
Im brazilian and BJJ practionner... it is not limited to the ground.. this jiu jitsu fighters are horrible,,,
@EricGFFG
7 жыл бұрын
Felipe Quaresma I agree personally too much guard pulling and hardly any transition.
@aaronramsden1657
7 жыл бұрын
sport bjj and combat bjj, same thing there :)
@mr.kemo1977
Жыл бұрын
Because they dont like anything about Russia..
@jorgemendes8891
5 жыл бұрын
jiu jitsu.....the best...oss
@biggman18
14 жыл бұрын
its not about the style its about the person usuing the style that makes the difference
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
And other than Sakuraba and Sherk.And aside from that there aren't any pure catch wrestlers.The others I know of are Randy Couture,Hughes and Jeremy Horn,but Couture is also trained in Greco,Hughes in Freestyle and Horn in BJJ.
bjj was slammed unconscious and won via DQ.. GOOD JOB BJJ!!!!!!!!!!
@felipesouza9485
10 жыл бұрын
O Sambo pode ser eficaz em quedas, mas toda vez que um russo sentia pressão no chão corria para fora do tatame para parar a luta...BJJ é uma arte e muito mais eficaz
@jeremysmith6222
9 жыл бұрын
no they ddnt, juz 1 win by them came from one bjj guy being slamed ,since he wanted to hang on forever
@CRaiNKer
8 жыл бұрын
I'm Russian and all my other Russian buds train bjj. It's legit and becoming more popular in Russia.
@caracallaseverus3412
8 жыл бұрын
They must be gay, much like public restrooms bjj schools are breading grounds for homosexuals.
7 жыл бұрын
va a chupar una poronja, cual és tu problema? el bjj es para todos no hay discriminación el esta arte.
@laokon
12 жыл бұрын
@01Proust the 3 I mentioned all compete in mma, so they do croos train. the thing i point out is that they are not frail, they were already tough physically before cross training. Else check out Roberto Cybord Bareu and tell he's frail...he's a pure bjj fighter and is physically very well prepared. Then i'm not saying all bjj guys are perfectly tuned athletes. but same can be said in every discipline.
@JesusLopez94
12 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with you. What I meant was the takedown game is better for the street. In Sambo and Judo the throws are perfect for taking an opponent down while you stay on your feet, so once he gets slammed, you can stomp on his head or something to finish the fight. I never said that BJJ is useless, I just said that rolling around on the ground for a long time isn't a good idea on the street when there are multiple attackers. Your opponent's friends will just come to kick you in the face.
@dirkplankchest1796
10 жыл бұрын
@Daren tagart. Sport bjj is a pail shadow of real bjj.
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
Rofl,2-2... 2 wins by decision for Sambokas, 1 win by DQ for Bjjkas and 1 win by triangle armbar for Bjjkas. Meh,weak competition.
@perjunksalot
10 жыл бұрын
why did they stop while the bjj guy was locking the triangle?
@klegerwards3083
5 жыл бұрын
aqui no Brasil chamamos isso de Marmelada!!!!KKKKK
@TheSamurai30
13 жыл бұрын
JIU JITSU PORRA! A MELHOR ARTE MARCIAL EM EFICIÊNCIA CARALHO. OSS!!!
@andersonalves1254
3 жыл бұрын
Teve um monte de jiujiteiro perdendo para os Sambokas .
@ВадимАбзалов-ж7о
5 жыл бұрын
Правила вообще отстой. Зачем поднимать в стойку если борьба со стойки перешла в партер? Правила изначально с предвзятостью заточены чисто для набора очков со стойки и далее сушить в партере и снова бал со стойки. Говно правила. Я бы посмотрел что смогли показать ребята из самбо по не привычным правилам в ADCC .
@АндрейЦентрРукопашногоБоя
5 жыл бұрын
То есть на жопе ездить перед соперником это нормально, а когда об ковер ездуна ушатали, так сразу всё бой продолжать не могу. Согласен правила отстой
@АлександрСергеевич-ч7г3н
5 жыл бұрын
Блять Вася этотправила борьбе на лопатки уложить
@ВадимАбзалов-ж7о
5 жыл бұрын
@@АндрейЦентрРукопашногоБоя а причём тут продолжать не могу, тебя самого хоть раз ушатывали слемом об мат? Если не шаришь не пизди много! Этот приём относится к грязным и многие атлеты которые за честную борьбу, не прибегают к нему. Правила не правильно подобраны. Если один стоечник а другой жополаз в партере то и правила должны быть промежуточные. Не правильно когда для борьбы в стойке нет ограничения по времени а в партере 10 секунд.
@АндрейЦентрРукопашногоБоя
5 жыл бұрын
@@ВадимАбзалов-ж7о да ты пукан свой потуши и стрелы не стоит переводить, ибо ты показываешь своё не далёкое развитие. Ну а на счёт правил скажу так: на данном соревновании бжжшники имели приемущество по причине того, что у самбистов полностью отсутствует партер, да и в добавок их в бросках ограничили. По этому бжжники жопой ковер протирали перед ними, а как только их бросали, они плакать начинали. Ну и на последок, я тебе сказал то, что видно на видео, по этому вся последующая твоя писанина будет игнориться. Удачи😄
@fabriciosouza408
2 жыл бұрын
Bjj is not gonna beat that ease, brow. The only reason that bjjs don't actually won more was because that sambo rules of always interrupt the fight...
@_keepintouch
7 жыл бұрын
there is no superior martial art, but there is always a superior athlete performing a particular martial art(s). Every martial art has it's strengths and weaknesses. When the strengths of each martial art are combined, and weaknesses discarded. You get the superior martial artist. This is what we all call MMA. Conclusion:. Neither martial art is better, they both have weaknesses. Fact:. Guns are superior
@truthsayer2310
5 жыл бұрын
Shawn Kit i agree at the end but cmon dude, everyone knows grappling is way better than striking lmao. No superior martial arts? Ok man. I just like to see styles go toe to toe whether it’s kB vs karate or catch wrestling vs jits or judo vs sambo it’s all cool shit to watch and you learn new shit
@Sucupira01
10 жыл бұрын
The third fighter won? I do not know the rules of this fight but it was weird.
@gumbinen68
10 жыл бұрын
Самбо рулит!!!!
@EderBorgesVilela
5 жыл бұрын
2-2 draw
@TheValera111
5 жыл бұрын
Пока не окажется в партере. Там вообще беспомощно смотрятся, одна надежда только на силу.
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
And also 3 VERY successful guys.
@WhiteBeltAcademy
12 жыл бұрын
KZitem Pedro Sauer vs Body Builder. BJJ black belts aren't invincible, but it sure does help.
@juliobjj21
12 жыл бұрын
In a street fight not everyone has takedown defense, now if we are starting to talk about multiple oponents thats why i dont just traing bjj i also train muay thai
@jimmyjam700
6 жыл бұрын
you know jujitsu is in the house when you hear no punching, slams or leg attacks.
@psouza1974
12 жыл бұрын
Copngratulations for both competitors. Especially for the bjj guy, which is blue belt. Before that color is the white belt.
@diegofaria4901
9 жыл бұрын
Péssimos candidatos para representar o JJ brasileiro, que vergonha! Se fosse assim como os gracie que desafiavam outras modalidades, se fosse um deles, não duraria nem 1min.
@kellerelectric
5 жыл бұрын
Старое видео. Часто интереснее нового. Еще в те времена были хорошие бойцы, но без раскрутки, многие остались неизвестными.
@pcjudosambo
14 жыл бұрын
@CNKzombie yes, they do and probably a few BJJ clubs teach advance tachi-waza (stand up throws) but majority lack standup due to 1 rule and 1 rule only : pull guard. If you make pulling guard illegal, the standup will increase by 1000% in all BJJ clubs. There's a reason why some grappling tournaments are not taking points away from those that pull guard... Judo, Sambo, Wrestling, Shooto do not have pull guard as a legal technique...
@AlexMorbid
13 жыл бұрын
Thnx for the video! very educational....
@felipehooper4624
10 жыл бұрын
Images says more then words........ BJJ the Best of the world
@darlanroberto3181
8 жыл бұрын
+jeremy smith. never never never never
@marcelosouza5032
8 жыл бұрын
the rules are differents, bjj is ground fight and sambo they priorize the projections, when the bjj submits hte reffere stops the fight, but both arts are amazing
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
On the other hand,BJJ was introduced to the world through the UFC,after Royce's success,everyone started falling for BJJ. Its a matter of better presentation,dare I say,marketing,not a matter of effectiveness. And the reason why more people don't search for Catch instructions because they,most commonly,have either sub wrestling or BJJ instructions in their gym and don't want to spend more money just to train in one martial art.To prove my point,go ahead,find a CW dojo at your country.
@antonio7196
10 жыл бұрын
ai representou o faixa preta. parabens
@drseth00789
11 жыл бұрын
how does saying CW is less popular (ie harder to find) prove your point. that's obvious. i didn't say it was about effectiveness, i said it was about attitude, and you are proving that with each comment. you're right tho, ufc 1 did bring it to the world and the marketing gimmick was effectiveness. that was the whole point of ufc 1, compare the arts. and CW did a rather poor marketing job by comparison there didn't they?
@xxxxMaui
11 жыл бұрын
how does ufc favor BJJ, or any ground game practitioner at that? if it did they wouldnt stand fighters back up and there would be longer rounds to give the ground fighters more time to work for position and tire their opponent out. also if it was to favor ground fighting styles they would start closer together or even on the ground, which is not the case. UFC caters to striking practitioners alot more, keeps them fresher by having shorter rounds, limiting ground time and starting standing.
@migachoedu
8 жыл бұрын
was there any bjj black belts in that team?
@fredpitbull2008
12 жыл бұрын
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is the best!! As we can see!
@kelydelimasantforeverfree9660
8 жыл бұрын
se fossem faixa preta com certeza a luta acabaria mais rápida , cansaram com faixa roxa kkkk
@JesusLopez94
12 жыл бұрын
Another thing you have to take into consideration is that on the street there are no rules. Eye gouging and groin shots count too, and your opponent is also more than likely going to carry some kind of weapon, so thats why I train in Krav Maga. Muay Thai is great, just keep in mind that all the "illegal moves" aren't illegal on the street, anything goes. You want to finish opponents in the fastest way possible doing whatever means necessary so that you don't spend too much time on one guy.
@drseth00789
11 жыл бұрын
got any links to catch vs bjj where catch wins? other than barnett of course
@pcjudosambo
14 жыл бұрын
@CNKzombie what happens when 2 people attack you at the same time? Are you going to pull guard on both of them and grapple on the ground with both of them as well?
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
cont. After its "evolution" the number of catch wrestlers started rapidly falling as all eyes were set on Pro Wrestling.In a matter of no time Catch Wrestling was almost extinct...Catch was reintroduced to the world through(even more ironic) Japanese Pro Wrestling after Billy Robinson and Karl Gotch went to Japan and started instructing Catch in Pro Wrestling dojos there.Even today when you look at it the country with the most Catch Wrestlers is Japan.
@SkyWalkerPoa
8 жыл бұрын
In my opnion, without time limits, good fighters of bjj ever win!
@jamesfoster7735
8 жыл бұрын
I would put money otherwise..
@Charkoly2
11 жыл бұрын
I think when you compare it to Pride, it definitely favors ground fighters; no yellow cards for stalling, no stomping, no kicking the heads of grounded opponents, and of course the 3-point stance rule. Not saying that I agree that it should be changed, just saying that you can make the argument.
@ilikenika
11 жыл бұрын
that why it is a sport... there is time limit. in real life on top position where you can deliver strong punches will do the job in 5 seconds after a good throw.
@jjwhite1733
13 жыл бұрын
how do you win?
@Felipeddd1988
10 жыл бұрын
As a Brazilian and as a Jiu Jitsu Practioner.. it is sad to see that jiu jitsu.. they are so weak.. and this black belt is horrible..
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
What attitude? I see no attitude anywhere. Please,enlighten me.Name one catch wrestler in the early UFCs.(Shamrock was a shoot wrestler,its a hell of a difference)
@user-nt5he4qm6g
11 жыл бұрын
There was a lot of bias by the Russian Referee. I am glad the last fight was very clean, and left no openings for the Referee to play his favoritism. This was dirty. Next time I would suggest the BJJ team not to enter, unless there was a neutral Ref.
@Askhat08
7 жыл бұрын
Goog Le Bjj team won 7:5.
@juliobjj21
12 жыл бұрын
mma is a sport my friend in the real world gi jiu jitsu is more street realistic because you are not always going to fight a half naked dude. in the vale tudo days there were no rules at all, and if not all, most fights were finished from the guard, but in the sport its true fighting from the guard has become harder with people dedicating their lifes to defend it but if its against a person with half ass training the guard is one of the many great tools bjj.
@pastlast158
3 жыл бұрын
More exciting than MMA or bloody cage fights.
@jorgelucioeltioyorch6620
10 жыл бұрын
Raza latina, pongan mas comentarios en español por que no entiendo ni maiz el ingles.
@jorgelucioeltioyorch6620
10 жыл бұрын
Julius Morales tu si sabes hermano
@ivanruiz7006
10 жыл бұрын
Está más amañado que cuando la Unión Soviética competía en los juegos olímpicos, se entiende eso? jajaja
@ademirsouza2024
9 жыл бұрын
Os russos só fogem
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
If your only argument is this "attitude" then you're the one digging yourself the hole here.If I had to go on about the "attitude" of BJJ practitioners I could go on for days.Karl Gotch is a catch wrestler(pure catch,no striking training),Funaki is a Shoot Wrestler just like Shamrock(aside from Catch,trained in kickboxing).Being trained in Kudo and being trained in Judo is not the same.But whatever,I'll take Sakuraba's 4 wins over the Gracies over Royce's 1 win over Shammy anytime.
@gilbertojosemenezes5399
4 жыл бұрын
Jiujiteiro superior.
@MegaHitman666
12 жыл бұрын
And the most practical takedowns!
@disturbedfocus
8 жыл бұрын
slams needs a place in the ufc.
@drseth00789
11 жыл бұрын
wow 3 guys! that really proves a point
@judorican973
10 жыл бұрын
What rules are they going by ?
@gregoryfromcali
11 жыл бұрын
Sure thing, that's the reason I posted them. So we coud see the strengths and weaknesses of both arts and try to learn from that. The other videos from the same event were very one sided.
@MrToobib
4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that this is a tournament opposing 2 different arts competing with rules of one of them. Like it s a BJJ vs SAMBO tournament, but with BJJ rules. Not fair very fair to me...
@00mrmonster
13 жыл бұрын
All the Ruskies are pros, vs novice BJJ guys. I would love to see BJJ black belts like Leo Viera and Andre Galvao or Marcelo Garcia agaisnt these jabronis.
@drseth00789
11 жыл бұрын
"whaa whaa whaa, catch is so much better than bjj. u can't learn anything descent from bjj, it's just better advertised." that would be the attitude, the chip on your shoulder. meanwhile we bjj guys love incorporating useful stuff from catch. So Karl Gotch and masakatsu funaki aren't catch wrestlers? don't split hairs, he trained catch, get over it
@pcjudosambo
14 жыл бұрын
@CNKzombie yap but unfortunately BJJ guys are not that versed in throwing people around (as we see in this video). But it depends on the sensei and the person training.
@JoshuaAmaro
11 жыл бұрын
Ricardo Migliariece at the end was the only BJJ of the bunch to take care of shit! He got it done son!
@juliobjj21
12 жыл бұрын
With the many years of training i have its disrespecfull to me considering it small talk let me know when and where and i will take you down in less than one minute
@akio8274
11 жыл бұрын
Gostaria de saber se o time do brasil voltou vivo pra casa.. kkkk quanta injustiça . vc s nao sabiam que os russos não perdem nunca?kkkk o cara que deu o bate estaca no video anterior provavelmente tinha um punhal na meiakkk não iria perder por nada . Conselho não voltem nunca mais lá.
@WhiteBeltAcademy
12 жыл бұрын
There are better BJJ practitoners than others. One person who is mediocre at BJJ does not speak for all BJJ practitioners.
@tim72184
11 жыл бұрын
My point being that against a BJJ practitioner, top position may not be so easily accomplished even after a throw.
@jeronymovasconcellos1248
5 жыл бұрын
O russo é mala, ficou ali ganhando tempo pra recuperar o gás
@drseth00789
11 жыл бұрын
so ask yourself why is it that bjj is so much more popular? the simplest answer is that it is better.which is of course is an over simplification.but i watch plenty of video from both. in almost every catch instruction video, the instructor has a chip on his shoulder about bjj and makes some snide comment about it.meanwhile bjj videos will often teach catch moves and even give credit to catch. bjj seems to adapt while catch has pride issues.start incorporating bjj into catch & maybe it will grow
@LUCAS_LIMA_____007
3 жыл бұрын
A primeira medalha foi por participação.
@DanielPereira-tl5tm
Жыл бұрын
Não tem sentido algum o lutador de jiu-jitsu lutar nessas regras do sambo, toda vez que ele encaixa uma posição o árbitro separa e reinicia a luta em pé!
@electronikita
13 жыл бұрын
Are they all Gracie Barra or whats going on? "Pull guard if pulling guard fails" seems to be the logic of the day, bleh! Machado's would do so much better on that torney
@drmgnmlk2
12 жыл бұрын
Brasilian jiu jitsu RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
If you looked at its evolution it'd be clear "y". If you claim Catch wouldn't be popular today if it didn't turn into Pro Wrestling at one point in history then you're missing a few screws.Even when it did turn into Pro Wrestling it further evolved into the even more popular "amateur" wrestling styles.Oh,so I started the name calling? There is no lapse in my logic,you never proved me wrong,or proved anything else.Pride?You're the one raising yourself and BJJ above everything else.Humor me more.
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
He said "other than Barnett of course",so I didn't list him.
@evanhughes6952
11 жыл бұрын
@Drseth00789 Sakuraba v. Gracie. Great fights, greater fighters.
@SuperDUDERIKI
11 жыл бұрын
Please don't fool yourself with this "pride issue",not one BJJ instructor in any instruction I've ever seen has credited any other art,nor has a Catch instructor made a snide comment about any other art.The most common comment they make is comparing it how other styles pull that move off. Its not as widespread because its worse than BJJ? LOL! Please follow the "evolution" or better said downfall of Catch.Catch in the UK(founding country) "evolved" into Pro Wrestling.
@L0nn13_c0
9 жыл бұрын
They stop the fight before he can finish the triangle choke? What the hell was that. BJJ FTW
@4c00h
14 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@savior12569
13 жыл бұрын
@SuperGoodman44 also its really hard to get a grip on Soviet Kimono.. it hurts your fingers..
@soul1cratos
10 жыл бұрын
essa equipe de Jiu pareceu bem fraquinha viu... não sabem fazer uma queda, não defenderam nenhuma queda... só sabiam chamar na guarda...
@EricGFFG
7 жыл бұрын
Too much guard pulling wtf is up with these guys?
@btkhanprv1399
5 жыл бұрын
черный пояс по бразильскому джиуджицу это не шутки
@MrOakcock
12 жыл бұрын
I dont understand how he won i mean he got submitted then almost submitted again before they ended the fight?
@105power
11 жыл бұрын
en el minuto 8:00 es la misma llave que le hizo fabricio werdum a fedor emilianenko
@dannielpreto
13 жыл бұрын
@TenteixSaigo Well for me it was irony as I was not expecting that
@luizogrande9862
3 жыл бұрын
Os cara do sambo só sabe fazer queda e a queda tem o objetivo de chegar no chão e o jiu jitsu é melhor no chão kkk Então não tem escolha kk
@Theseus1000
12 жыл бұрын
Those guys are on the same level training for 3-4 years not world champs. BJJ is overated they were regulary beaten by catch wreslers, as they have done submission wrestling for centuries. And also by judo in the past, but doday BJJ is adopting techniques from CW, Sambo, etc and so is Sambo they will be wery similar in decade or two. Besides now we can see in mma fights BJJ is not wery useful if wreslers know submissions like Jon Jones. Shogun world champ in BJJ cant do anything.
@deolhonazueira291
4 жыл бұрын
Os caras enchem a cara de vodka e depois não aguentam o ritimo brazilian jiu jitsu
@13lauraelizabeth
13 жыл бұрын
@SirRediazVh Because he has a purple belt on............seriously?
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