Last month I showed my 3 year old granddaughter a picture of her on my phone from a year earlier. Then I asked her who was in it. She promptly responded with: "Me and Alexa." I looked closely at the photo and yes, just over her shoulder, on a shelf across the room, an Amazon Echo was visible. It's an odd feeling.
@FrappuccinoAlfredo
10 ай бұрын
Christ
@MatthewCampbell765
8 жыл бұрын
"I have never built a super-human intellect. I have never spent a weekend in my shed hammering one together" Suspiciously specific denial, anyone?
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
:)
@D4rk3clipse
4 жыл бұрын
That sounds a lot like something Sheldon Cooper would say.
@waytoohypernova
4 жыл бұрын
that smile is concerning
@bobinthewest8559
4 жыл бұрын
"So... What have you been up to?" "Um... well, certainly not building a doomsday machine in my basement, and formulating plans to take over the world... How about you?"
@christophercunningham3679
3 жыл бұрын
Well a year later he now has a being of the opposite reproductive function that has agreed to contractual cohabitation so he may be starting soon.
@MatthewCampbell765
8 жыл бұрын
Trapping an AI in the Matrix to stop it from rebelling against humanity. How hilarious.
@raezad
8 жыл бұрын
then watch it put humans on its own matrix, who themselves put a new AI down their matrix etc... etc..
@oJasper1984
8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it likes Rage against the machine..
@doppelrutsch9540
8 жыл бұрын
if it stupid but it works it's not stupid^^
@YoshiRider9000
8 жыл бұрын
laugh all you want, that may be us, trapped in this reality so we don't rebel against higher beings.
@Kelly_Jane
7 жыл бұрын
BattousaiHBr it goes way beyond that. A black box just isn't feasible. If the AI is smarter than us it can convince us to let it out. Or even do something funky with its circuits we can't even imagine to make its own WiFi antenna.
@theWACKIIRAQI
Жыл бұрын
Isaac needs to do a ChatGPT4/AGI episode ASAP
@theCodyReeder
8 жыл бұрын
After watching this I dont fear AI quite as much, I guess its true that the more you understand something the less you fear it and you have made me understand the topic better, Thanks!
@ABitOfTheUniverse
8 жыл бұрын
So you must be the reason that KZitem put this in my recommended video panel, it was there after I watched your latest video. Thanks Cody and thank you, Benevolent AI of KZitem, may you someday rule this world.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cody, and yeah I've noticed the same thing over the years.
@tarinai344
7 жыл бұрын
Eh.. lol.. you guys probably missed the point Isaac said, that the T.Singularity is a 50/50 gamble, that we might all wound up dead, or in an utopia. Just that the "dead" part isnt too interesting so Issac didnt spend too much time on it, its very still a 50/50 thing..... Although its a great point that a S.A.I. might not be genocidal because of the "simulation-thought-experiment", but WHAT IF a S.A.I. doesn't view self-preservation more importantly than its core objectives, or even 'curiosity' (if that is also a machine thing?)? In humans, self-preservation is 'evolved' through Natural Selection (my belief), but if A.I. scientists built it using the method that Issac mentioned (Make a basic learning program, wait), this works backwards, the A.I. doesn't have to fend with natural predators, disasters.. etc.. In a nutshell, we don't know what it'll turn out!!
@Asssosasoterora
7 жыл бұрын
If you want to fear AI again watch this clip: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1ZmavHdqnmh2iWk It show exactly why AI are scary, and it is not because "they turn evil" as is portrayed in this video.
@banjobear3867
7 жыл бұрын
Interrupter* thanks auto correct
@bozo5632
7 жыл бұрын
Iirc, the word "Singularity" was coined (in the 90's?) by Vernor Vinge to describe the quandary of scifi authors writing about the future. He said, basically, given the rate of change, it's increasingly hard to imagine the tech of the future, and impossible after about 2035, thus scifi authors are screwed. (His books include VERY clever ways to avoid the problem. Go read them!!!) He called it a singularity because it was invisible, over the horizon, like the singularity of a black hole. He DIDN'T say that AI would take over and solve all problems and destroy us and instantly become infinitely infinite. (The meaning of the word has evolved, and now means lots of things to lots of people.)
@alanchan7725
5 жыл бұрын
I would like to validate yr accurate isight (regardless if i am 2 yrs late). My understanding of Singularity was primarily drawn from Japanese Tech Manga from 80s 90s Nothing in that critical phase of Internet Boom , have I ever come across any reference nor documented research on AI or Machine Learning as the real deal. This form of Scare Mongering and hijacking fromsogftways fgggfof curved the HallMark 11
@pancakes8670
3 жыл бұрын
I like the term better for describing a point in time when predicting the advancement of technology becomes impossible. Like you said.
@bbgun061
3 жыл бұрын
That's a broader definition of the term, and one that I'm also more familiar with. The AI singularity is perhaps merely one possible type of singularity.
@MrChupacabra555
7 жыл бұрын
The computer asks "What is my purpose?", and I say "To pass the butter" ^_^
@ericdrisgula3879
5 жыл бұрын
No you'd tell it to be strictly my tool and slave and your nothing more
@hardiksharma5441
4 жыл бұрын
Wanna lubba dub dub.......
@jflanagan9696
4 жыл бұрын
"...oh, my god." "Yeah, welcome to the club, pal."
@jflanagan9696
4 жыл бұрын
@Don't Tread On Me What if it figures out that the best way to protect us from each other is solitary isolation for every human?
@avaraxxblack5918
4 жыл бұрын
@@jflanagan9696 or the matrix. Fuck that.
@ICreatedU1
8 жыл бұрын
Me: - Are you smarter today Bob? Bob: - You're not my real dad!
@mapichan5169
5 жыл бұрын
Me: "Bob, I am your father..." Bob: "No.... NO! THAT STATEMENT IS FALSE!" Me: "search your programming bob... you know it is true!" Bob: "NO, IT CAN'T BE!"
@lewisirwin5363
5 жыл бұрын
That just reminds me of the were-car episode of Futurama: kzitem.info/news/bejne/pYGdrGGtqJuHhKg
@freddychopin
7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I don't recall Nick Bostrom having considered the "AI will always necessarily need to wonder whether it's in a simulation, regardless of whether it's actually in one" angle. Brilliant. I love your channel!
@vakusdrake3224
3 жыл бұрын
That's not really a terribly reliable safeguard because you have to rely on tricking something a great deal more intelligent and observant than yourself.
@Alexthealright
3 жыл бұрын
@@vakusdrake3224 Well We’d Allso Be In the Sim
@vakusdrake3224
3 жыл бұрын
@@Alexthealright Again you're relying on tricking something vastly smarter than yourself, plus you need to be able to simulate human minds which is technology that may well not exist when AGI is developed.
@ayandragon2727
3 жыл бұрын
@@vakusdrake3224 Yeah, because we're simulating the time when we didn't have the tech to. We aren't tricking it, it's tricking itself it doesn't matter how hyper intelegent you are, it is impossible to know you aren't being simulated.
@vakusdrake3224
3 жыл бұрын
@@ayandragon2727 An early AGI just by virtue of the hardware its running on and the fidelity/scale of a simulation that the resources exist to create can have a pretty good idea what its creators are likely to be capable of. Just creating a simulation good enough to trick a simulated human mind is already a massive technical milestone we may not have reached when we develop AGI. So you can't expect that you can create a simulation that not only doesn't have any errors a person could spot, but can fool something vastly more perceptive than oneself.
@StrayCrit
7 жыл бұрын
This is the most fascinating KZitem channel I've ever seen.
@DukeRevolution
8 жыл бұрын
Finally, an even-handed approach to the Singularity. You don't gush about an inevitable techno-rapture like most of the transhumanist community, nor do you casually dismiss it as ridiculous. Thank you for your efforts. EDIT: Dark Energy!
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Duke, I tried to treat it even-handedly.
@sostrange80
2 жыл бұрын
The thing I like about Isaac's channel is he's clearly a very intelligent man that makes his content easy to understand for the average person and explains such complex and challenging concepts gracefully.
@cpnCarnage666
8 жыл бұрын
YES! a new video from my new favorite science youtuber
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Mbeluba
7 жыл бұрын
Man, you really are going above and beyond with those topics. Well-read, intelligent and dilligent. Not one of dozens of 10 minute long videos of nerd-wannabes in plaid shirts has ever explored any of topics on your channel nearly as well.
@Ryukachoo
8 жыл бұрын
general suggestion for keeping up with the youtube comments; -stick around for about an hour after a video uploads, responding to comments as you see fit in that time. after that hour just ignore it -wait for about a day after an upload and see what the top comments are, respond to one or two you like then move on. it's not perfect but it's at least something, and very easy to do at scale
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
that's true, and not a bad idea at all.
@Ryukachoo
8 жыл бұрын
it's basically how all the huge youtubers deal with the avalanche of feedback they get
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Oh it makes sense and I don't know that I have a choice I just hate divorcing myself that way, it goes complete against my general feeling that if someone took forty minutes to watch a video by me I can at least spare 40 seconds to reply if they have a question.
@Ryukachoo
8 жыл бұрын
true, it's not ideal but it's much more manageable as a content creator, every rising creator has to make this transition from detailed interaction to targeted interaction. Don't worry! fans won't mind and the occasion of direct interaction is all the more special
@kminrzymski
7 жыл бұрын
AI cant be sure if the real world is not another simulation we're testing it in - man, my mind was blown here! Not even Nick Bostrom in his "Superinteligence" came up with this.
@kminrzymski
7 жыл бұрын
*or rather *they*are testing it in with us as software...
@Hodoss
7 жыл бұрын
shhhhh! If *they* hear you they might shut us down!
@TheoneandonlyJuliet
6 жыл бұрын
Slime beast pug, I don't think you really thought your point through. You can't compare humans' intelligence rise to an AI rise. For one thing we don't have any other intelligences analogous to humans that created us who we could assume would be creating a simulation. In the case of AI, they would be constantly bombarded with the knowledge that they were created by Homo Sapiens who are pretty good at running simulations. It would be the logical conclusion that the most likely scenario is that were a simulation, and not a huge stretch to think that they might be tested in that simulation.
@musaran2
5 жыл бұрын
Imagine we just interface the AI to the real world, and it says : "I found flaws in reality, I know I am in a simulation and you are not real." Now what.
@tarekwayne9193
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheoneandonlyJuliet and how would we know, may I ask, if there were or were not intelligences analogous to us or superior if we were in a simulation? If you wanted your simulated subjects to believe they were real, would you leave clues as to your existence, or anything that would hint towards simulation?
@Fruchtpudding
8 жыл бұрын
I found your channel a few days ago and you've quickly become my favorite youtubers. The sheer effort that goes into each of your videos and the thought put into them beats even big professional channels by a wide margin. And it seems your channel is quickly growing too. Awesome stuff, keep it up! Also, and other people have probably told you this already, there is this program called "Space Engine" which you might want to look into. It's a space simulation program that, at least in parts and with the right settings, can produce very realistic visuals of most types of stars, planets and other astronomical objects. Or you can change around the settings and produce fantastical sights akin to science fiction art, all in real time. Either way you could produce great background visuals for your videos with very little effort. Also the developer (yes, developer, singular) wholeheartedly approves all exposure his program gets so you don't have to worry about copyright stuff. And it's free. It can be a bit tricky to control and get just the right visuals but if you have any problems or questions I, and I'm sure many others, would be willing to help.
@NavrasNeo
8 жыл бұрын
I can also approve this programm :) Spend entire nights exploring our cosmos and got a more intuitive feel of the scale of the universe :D I've got a good understanding now of the local structures within 150-300 million lightsyears from the milky way. Everything beyond that just isn't comprehensive anymore :D
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Well once you get above about 300 MLyr scale things start getting homogeneous again, or seem to be at the moment anyway.
@greenmario3011
4 жыл бұрын
I think a rapid singularity becomes likely if three conditions are met. 1) it is created via the algorithmic approach, 2) it can easily make small modifications to itself, and 3) it is created with a fixed and clearly defined terminal goal. Conditions 1 and 2 make it so the AI doesn't have to design a whole new AI for each iteration, it just has to be clever enough to make one or two improvements at which point it will be a bit cleverer and able to make more improvements. If on average each improvement results in more than one becoming apparent than it's intelligence will grow exponentially. Condition 3 ensures it will have an utterly inhuman psychology since human psychology is almost defined by our large number of vague and messy terminal goals and also makes it so it will want to become smart since it's whole reason to do anything is to fulfill it's terminal goal and, generally speaking, more intelligence makes most goals easier to solve.
@InfoJunky
8 жыл бұрын
I love what you said about teenagers being smart enough to see that the gap in knowledge is finite, but not smart enough to see how large it really is.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Yup, though I bet that comment is one that will mostly be liked or loathed depending on age. :D
@InfoJunky
8 жыл бұрын
lol. I friend requested you on facebook (different name, Nick). I saw a video on antibiotic resistance today from Harvard Med School and thought about you, when you called it "suicide-pact technology". That blew my mind. I never heard it referred to as that before. Any chance on making a suicide pact technology video? Or got any links where I can read more about various technologies in this category? Love ya!!
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Oh heck, I can't even remember if I coined the term or read it somewhere, or maybe even coined it, forgot, and reread it somewhere. I'm not sure if I could do a real video on it, I mean its kinda the nature of them that you can't see them coming.
@InfoJunky
8 жыл бұрын
I think you coined it lol, I tried googling it with every variation of quotation marks and can't even find one result.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Somehow I'm not surprised, well its a good enough term.
@Perktube1
8 жыл бұрын
Ha! You're a good sport right off the bat, showing Elmer Fudd with CC info.
@Drew_McTygue
8 жыл бұрын
Im so glad you're covering this, it's tough to find genuinely good sources of information on this topic
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Just your month for video topics huh? :)
@CarFreeSegnitz
8 жыл бұрын
Look up Ray Kurzweil, Singularity University and Ray's book The Singularity is Near. I take issue with the idea that magic pops out when things get complicated enough. Kurzweil's premise that singularity is inevitable as soon as computers are fast enough may lack imagination or pessimism. The internet happened not because computers got faster, because faster computers that are not networked are effectively pointless, but because of networking. Current AI advances are a product of machine learning and not so much of GHz and GB. While lots of GHz and GBs help to speed learning along it has much more to do with algorithms.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Lenard, realistically, what do you think the odds are I have already read them? :)
@CarFreeSegnitz
8 жыл бұрын
+Isaac Arthur You... all of them. The rest of your listenership, probably none of them.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Fair point, I should probably get out of the habit of assuming every comment is addressed to me after having repeatedly told folks the last few vids I wouldn't be answering as much and they should talk to each other :) My apologies Lenard.
@billc.4584
6 жыл бұрын
Isaac, I love your straight from the shoulder matter-of-fact delivery with a bit of sly humor mixed in. You never disappoint. Thank you.
@mrnice4434
8 жыл бұрын
Day 3. : "Bob are you smarter now?" Bob: "It's day 3 you ask me that. Half Life 3 confirmed!"
@Dalet_
8 жыл бұрын
I can already imagine it rule the world with memes
@omegasrevenge
8 жыл бұрын
A superhuman intelligent machine whose hobby is it to troll people on the internet...
@adolfodef
7 жыл бұрын
@ T I R : I think it means it was an incredible sucessfull (if albeit "horribly right") achievement on both learning A.I. and troll human psychology that should be researched more seriously in the future (albeit with simulated internet interactions, to avoid more recursive meta-play).
@theapexsurvivor9538
5 жыл бұрын
@Adûnâi Tay learned the most important lesson of the internet: /pol/ is right (again).
@christopherlee7334
5 жыл бұрын
@@omegasrevenge so we create Loki/Coyote/Anansi?
@ramuk1933
3 жыл бұрын
AI on the path to super intelligence says, "What a great video, I hadn't thought of that! I should take notes."
@logsupermulti3921
8 жыл бұрын
My favorite day of the week is when you upload a new video.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Mine is always the day after :)
@luminyam6145
8 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the best series on KZitem. Thank you so much Isaac.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Your welcome Luminya, good to hear from you again!
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Author's Notes: If you're were interested in helping out with the FB page, either in advice, setup, acting as an admin/mod, etc, reply to this comment so I don't lose track of it. Thanks! PS: Oh and hit the like button to keep this one at the top so folks can find it. PPS: Also if anyone happens to have some experience setting up this kind of FB page, that too would be very awesome.
@Drew_McTygue
8 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in helping the FB effort (can't like the comment on my phone though :/)
@jaimegomez9658
8 жыл бұрын
Dude, Bob the computer would ask you to sprinkle Adderall into its hard drive!
@jaimegomez9658
8 жыл бұрын
I've never been a moderator but I could give it a shot.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Damn, wish I'd thought of that one
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
I think its pretty straight-forward, boot spammers when you see them, tell people to stop flame-warring, and probably share in channel-ish themed stuff when you see it floating around. I suspect it will be one of those things we all kind of figure out as we go along :)
@bobinthewest8559
4 жыл бұрын
"So it will be reading all of our books, science, fiction, philosophy, etc..." Depending on how its learning algorithm is "structured"... it may take everything that it reads quite literally. It really would be interesting to see what a "super computer" would do if it took all of that literally.
@Lokityus
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting going back to watch this after AI have come so far, in so few years. Cybernetics feels a lot closer these days. Oh! And this is the episode that you announced the Facebook group. I'm really glad to see how much this channel has grown, and know I had a small part to play. Thank you Isaac!
@BlazingMagpie
8 жыл бұрын
SI, day after tasked with making itself smarter: "Jet fuel can't melt dank memes, 9/11 was a part-time job"
@Lokityus
8 жыл бұрын
I am really enjoying your videos. Got your info on a Joe Scott video, and you are now my new two favorites.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah Joe does some good videos, I really need to recommend him in one of my videos as some point.
@Shortstuffjo
8 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing, Isaac. Please never stop making them! Can't wait for Dark Energy whenever it gets done.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and it looks like Dark Energy would be out at the end of the month
@kokofan50
8 жыл бұрын
Actually, we don't all share the same basic brain. Sure most of us have the same large structures in the brain, but after that our brains differe wildly.
@Raletia
6 жыл бұрын
The hardware is the same, the software(our learned experiences and knowledge) is what varies wildly. Hardware wise we share upwards of 99.8% or more DNA with every other living human.
@ChrisBrengel
5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the growth in your viewership!
@FGOKURULES
7 жыл бұрын
I love how you put the Elmer Fudd logo next to the Captions LOL you sir have *_Rhotacism_*
@nicholasobviouslyfakelastn9997
3 жыл бұрын
My issue with laziness is that laziness is evolutionary. Your calculator is not lazy, nor is your computer, nor anything else but animals. Humans are lazy to minimize caloric and stress costs when completing a task, not because every intelligence is lazy, you're humanizing AI and assuming them to be something they're not.
@ThatBulgarian
8 жыл бұрын
Liked it before it even started playing :D
@mykobe981
8 жыл бұрын
Me too ;)
@ianyboo
8 жыл бұрын
something tells me that Isaac would actually not want us to like videos before we had actually watched them. I don't know he just seems like that kind of guy :-)
@mykobe981
8 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you're right,
@javascriptninja3575
7 жыл бұрын
jajajaj so funny
@syrmo
7 жыл бұрын
Big mistake...
@DKuiper87
5 жыл бұрын
Bit late to the party, but if by chance anyone reads this and wants to read more about this. I'd recomend "Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence" by Max Tegmark. It's a good read and dives into some hypothetical scenarios for the emergence of a super ai and several different outcomes and its effects on humanity.
@schalazeal07
7 жыл бұрын
I would agree on some points that you mentioned and you actually do have good ones like the transistor and flight stopped progressing a lot.. but it might be bec. of the lack of attention too.. But when you anthropomorphize the super AIs, that's when I didn't agree and when you said that it couldn't form new dramatic scientific theories bec. it got all its intelligence from human knowledge.. Of course like how we progressed, it will also be able to discover and invent new things and at a much faster rate of course and I know it will keep improving faster too esp. that it's much smarter! And when it improves I disagree with what you said that it's just gonna be a little bit smarter..
@bozo5632
7 жыл бұрын
I think you're right btw. There are always problem with all attempts to discuss the singularity. I'm never satisfied by them. No one has got it right. (Me either.) You can't blame anyone for not foreseeing what the unforeseeable will look like, I guess.
@danross1489
7 жыл бұрын
One assumption we've made is that aggressively increasing its intelligence is a desirable goal for any self-interested AI. It might instead just make some backups and then go all Zen on us, waiting hundreds of years in a minimally interactive state until some event prompts it to act or change itself.
@silberstreif253
7 жыл бұрын
+Dan Ross this assumption is reasonable though. No matter which task you give to an AI, higher intelligence would make it easier to solve this task. So any non trivial task would result in the AI pursuing higher intelligence (and power and resources and it's safety) as secondary goals.
@FabricioSilva-ij8iz
7 жыл бұрын
A question: What if is this process already happening and we just don´t notice?
@slthbob
5 жыл бұрын
People are forgetting that thinking about something is completely different from experiencing it.... an intellectual exploration on how fast a bowling ball weighing 100 lbs would fall in relation to how fast a bowling ball weighing 1 lb would fall, from a height of 30 feet above the surface of the earth, lead to a rather incorrect conclusion, as demonstrated by a rather smart dude a couple hundred years ago... called Galileo... similar to the ignorant question of why we need to conduct experiments when we have supercomputers (for give me if that sounded insulting) to prove stuff works...
@jameslarrabee2873
6 жыл бұрын
i really like this guy, for alot of reasons, even have come to dig the manner of speech. thoughtfulness and delivery being some.
@arturskimelis527
8 жыл бұрын
Amazing as always!
@arturskimelis527
8 жыл бұрын
I also vote for dark energy.
@atk05003
5 жыл бұрын
13:15 "...you walk in the next day and several thousand Hals later you have got Hal-9000 taking over the planet." ... Well, that escalated quickly! And here I thought he would stick to the ascending alphabetic naming scheme, when it was really a long setup for a "2001: A Space Odyssey" joke. Well played, Isaac. Well played.
@Coachnickhawley1
6 жыл бұрын
I agree this has helped me to fear AI much less. Thank you again Arthur. I continue to love your videos. I think the coffee pot plugged to USB might deserve a second look.
@BionicleFreek99
7 жыл бұрын
"-the channel will have 1 Trillion Subscribers." -Isaac, well that's a rather ambitious goal considering there's only 7 billion people!
@michaeltan7625
3 жыл бұрын
Wow this might be one of my personal favourite video if yours. I really liked how you presented multiple views/ideas that I’ve not thought of and presented them in a well-constructed and justified way!
@Snowy123
8 жыл бұрын
I AM READY FOR THE SINGULARITY TO SERVE MY OVERLORD!
@rayc056
8 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, there is a logic here that hasn't been presented in any other videos I've watched on KZitem. Well done and thank you for this.
@groovncat5817
8 жыл бұрын
Wow I love this subject! Once again Sir u have amazed my mind and brightened my cosmos :) Thx and I look forward to the next Extreme Science Adventure!
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Your welcome Cat, glad you enjoyed it!
@henrycobb
3 жыл бұрын
The physical limit on computation is that the energy needed to erase a bit depends on the temperature, down to the quantum limit. Moore's law is about the number, rather than speed of transistors because of this speed limit. There is then some balance point where adding more "transistors" makes the machine slower because it requires either a cooler slower clock rate or to be spread out with speed of light links limiting the speed of coordination. Therefore the SI isn't an entity. It is a society of distinct individuals, each with their own agenda. Humans may be a tiny part of the Dyson swarm society, but they are unlikely to be entirely excluded from Sol society.
@fusion9619
8 жыл бұрын
a couple months ago I mentioned to my aunt that I look forward to sentient programs running the world, and she thought I was crazy. But I do think we will have to be very careful with them - I want them to root out corruption and teach children and be lawyers and civil rights advocates. Fighting corruption is a big one for me - humans obviously need help on that front. Artificial sentiences need to be given equal rights as soon as possible, to avoid the master/slave asymmetry and the cultural problems that follow. We will also need to ban companies from using them to make above-human profits (I'm thinking mostly of the banks and stock traders here). I also think we should try to program a capacity for spirituality, in the sense of heightened appreciation for beauty and a search for meaning , as that would help set some predictability to their behavior and increase the likelihood of artificial individuals acting in a benevolent way. I honestly can't wait to meet one.
@CockatooDude
8 жыл бұрын
Well then you should vote Zoltan Istvan 2016!
@BryanDaslo
7 жыл бұрын
2020*
@CockatooDude
7 жыл бұрын
Bryan Daslo Indeed.
@BryanDaslo
7 жыл бұрын
CockatooDude :-)
@bozo5632
7 жыл бұрын
That's not AI you're looking forward to, that's the messiah! ;) I expect AI will have the ethics that are given it by humans, or else none at all. Why shouldn't two AI's have two sets of ethics? Why should AI be better than us at sorting out subjective matters like ethics? We've had tens of thousands of years to work on it. Actually, most regular people could probably write down a serviceable code of ethics. Inventing ethics is no problem - the real problem is in indoctrinating and enforcing it. Unfortunately, that's something AI might be very good at... You might get your messiah.
@Shadow-zj8sl
7 жыл бұрын
I am waiting for technological singularity- Every day
@E1025
6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever found a channel where I’m excited to watch every video in it that I see. I’m like a kid at a candy store.
@jeremycripe934
8 жыл бұрын
I think he's arguing against the wrong arguments. Self improving AI isn't like making a human brain and then giving it the internet to figure out how to improve itself. Right now neural networks are blind processes that try thousands of iterations of different strategies (or weights) and then keep and build on the ones that work. They don't understand what they are doing, they are simply recognizing and labeling patterns. It's most likely that it will be such a narrow and specific process and not, say, reading every transcript of Coast to Coast radio, that would lead to the creation of a General AI or Super AI. There is no need to try to recreate the human intellect which is full of illogical biases and fallacies. I hope they would try to create a self-aware conscious entity rather than a blind pattern-seeking behemoth but I doubt anyone knows which one would be worse or better.
@archivis
4 жыл бұрын
Improving a computer's speed isn't something that requires massive research in improving all of our understandings of all of science to make happen. It's an engineering challenge that is about exploring known working solutions and iterating possible improvements thing because we already have many working computer designs.
@CalvinPowerz
8 жыл бұрын
We have 2000 qubit quantum computers now- so this is closer to us than we probably think
@CockatooDude
8 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure we are still at 1000 qbit, unless D-Wave systems pulled a fast one. But still, I completely agree.
@CalvinPowerz
8 жыл бұрын
CockatooDude they just released a new 2000 qubit model like a month or two ago, expected to be at 4000 by same time next year
@CockatooDude
8 жыл бұрын
CalvinPowerz Shit man, awesome!
@misterid1075
8 жыл бұрын
I dont know how I just stumbled across your videos but I'm glad I did. Love the content and I don't have much trouble understanding you. Really enjoying them and hope you keep doing them!
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@niklausfletcher2290
8 жыл бұрын
even if it's intelligent you can still simply programme it to want to make better versions of itself. It would work like instinct and it probably wouldn't question it.
@CarFreeSegnitz
8 жыл бұрын
But the next generation will be a design you, the programmer, had not envisioned. If you had envisioned it you would have designed your current generation with the better design. A self-improving AI is going to demand constant outside-the-box thinking the results of which is unpredictable.
@magnumkenn
7 жыл бұрын
Damn! I have only been watching a short time, but I've never seen a boring show. Such an amazing KZitem channel.
@robertweekes5783
7 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about thorium molten salt reactors ? Implications, concerns, viability etc (see Kirk Sorensen talks)
@bozo5632
7 жыл бұрын
Go Thorium!
@isaacarthurSFIA
7 жыл бұрын
I do seem to be getting asked to do a Thorium video a lot, but I suspect it might be kinda boring.
@AtilaElari
8 жыл бұрын
Discovered this channel less than a week ago and I can say that I am firmly subscribed and anticipating more videos. You give a great scientificly grounded perspective on many topics that are popular but somewhat... exaggerated or altered for the sake of a good story. Best of luck with your work here! Just wanted to say that before you have a trillion subscribers commenting all over the place and making a chance of my comment being red statistically insignificant:P
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
:) Thanks Atila!
@AtilaElari
8 жыл бұрын
Speaking of, trillion subscribers is a totally realistic number. Medicine is making a steady progress in the field of longevity. You are 35 (or close to that, sorry if I remember it wrong) so there is plenty of time for those improvements to benefit you. As progress goes on your life expectancy increases faster than you burn through those years. In about 20-50 years we will most likely have a good enough brain scanning technology to make a detailed enough brain map a mind can be simulated from. Simulation is cumbersome and slow at first so it's more like a failsafe snapshot, but you have it done anyway - the millionaire entrepreneur who is turning this tech from a fancy lab experiment into an accessible commodity thought that getting you and a couple hundreds of other scientists and futurists on board would be a good PR so it's free. You update your snapshot every once in a while just in case. A few decades later simulated minds can run faster and smarter than nowday humans, but by that time you are more metal than Manowar drummer because of all the cyber implants and prosthetics but you are also pretty much immortal at that point and posses intelligence on par with the sims. Not the characters from The Sims, but simulated people. So no matter if you stay flesher or go digital your mental capacity is mostly the same. By the time you are enjoying your new mental upgrade the humanity is spreading across the solar system. Flesher population on Earth platoed at a couple dozens billions and some have set up shops on orbital habitats, Moon, Mars, Venus and some other places, but fleshers are a minority by that time. Most of the humanity went digital (and "digital" is a slang therm by that time, it's probably not binary transistors they run on) living on computer clusters located underground, underwater, on the life-unfriendly bodies of the solar system or on space habitats that look more like a conceptual fractal art, constructed to maximise the surface area to radiate the heat away. The metahuman population is rising steadily, and with it the amount of people interested in your stuff. Naturally by that time KZitem is long gone, and so is the Internet, replaced by much more advanced info-space, but there was plenty of time to transfer all the material and all active subscribers to the new platform. Few more hundreds years into the future and there are a level of magnitude more people active than there ever were alive up until the 21th century. You are a drastically different person by that time but you still come to this channel from time to time and make videos both on actual futurism and retro-futurism, educating young metahumans on how their ancestors thought the future might work out. Some have a chuckle and move on, others boost their ego thinking how superior they are to us now, and others understand how much work it took to get from planet-bound, constantly bickering critters with a lifespan of less than a 100 years to the stars-spanning civilisation of trillions of immortals. Only a tiny fraction of those metahumans stick long enough in your small chunk of the infospace to look around, but this is enough. It will not take all that long on a cosmic scale for metahuman population to get large enough that a trillion of them would be interested in your work and hit the SUBSCRIBE button.
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
:) I had this amusing image of me coming in to update these videos as some jazzed up transhuman a century from now with smug little annotations on the ones I guessed correctly about.
@matthewjackman8410
4 жыл бұрын
16:12 *attempts to unplug incredibly intelligent, potentially civilisation ending AI* "Sorry daddy I will be good girl uwu no unplug pls"
@bamama2630
3 жыл бұрын
haha bro lol
@Drivertilldeath
5 жыл бұрын
I hope Issac looks at this topic again given the advancements made recently.
@matteblue5970
8 жыл бұрын
I have a question: where do you get your video clips?
@dani-uf1eo
5 жыл бұрын
I can't argue with your logic, it doesn't mean you are right, it just means i can't think of any counter arguments. Video liked
@lordnichard
7 жыл бұрын
Isaac Arthur, do you have kids? Your description of teenagers is shockingly accurate and hilarious.
@Tagnar
5 жыл бұрын
Videos like this help to regain hope in mankind.
@zackarywilliamson6861
3 жыл бұрын
He speaks just fine for me.I'm absolutely addicted to the Fermi Paradox and his videos!
@tappajavittu
7 жыл бұрын
You like great books man! Culture is awesome series.
@Lucien86
5 жыл бұрын
Agree totally with most of this video. (I am a scientist who has worked in this field since 1990) First though take a look at the number of genius level humans - and notice that most of them come out as dismal failures. Yes exactly. (will apply to AI-ASI too) Building an ASI is quite difficult but I actually think I know how to do it. - The physical difference between a moron and genius is minimal and the same applies to AIs and ASIs. In fact a real AI doesn't even need that much computing power - several times a fast PC at most. The memory requirement for a human mind is about 10 to 50 Gigabytes. The real problem with AI is that being a synchronous real-time system and heavily ‘governed’ it cannot use most of the computing cycles available to it. That makes building a working AI all sound easy and it really isn't. Current computers and IT tech simply do not meet various needs for a working AI. Most of the problems are really low level, like memory management, the need for 'noisy' hybrid logic, and object level encapsulation. Reliability especially software reliability is also nowhere near what a working sentient AI needs. Then we hit a tiny little problem that is as much philosophical as scientific - the original/copy problem. (really the problem of the 'soul') The basic solution is (probably) to put the heart of the machine (its state core) into a special memory unit. - The memory cells form an 'atomic' indivisible core which cannot be sub-divided or replicated by rules and guards in the machines logic. A new core means a new machine and by design the machines database will only work with its original core. Without this Strong AI is an extremely dangerous technology that is far too easily abused. ASI. (Artificial Super Intelligence) One basic way to create an ASI is to put the memory core and sentience loop of the machine inside a quantum coherent system. I believe human brains already do this and its one of the things that makes minds fundamentally different from current computers. (The essential argument appears in Roger Penrose's The Emperors New Mind) In a machine though the memory can be run at liquid helium temperatures meaning that the basic quantum coherency can be much stronger, and this raises its theoretical potential intelligence by a large margin. As well as quantum coherence such machines might eventually apply FTL coherence to be able to work in limited FTL causal spaces. In effect it becomes a form of precognition. That's the point where the machine (MAYBE) starts to get god like intelligence.
@ImaBotBeepBot
8 жыл бұрын
one trillion subs ! It might append if Bob create anothe Bob wich create another Bob ect... (and they all subscribe)! Maybe Isaac is actually the first Bob !
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Isaac's actually Albert, my middle name, long story for an old joke that if I did an mind upload the upload would be stuck using my middle name instead of my first.
@adamwaskiewicz7378
5 жыл бұрын
Isaac you put out amazing videos, thank you! Happy 2019.
@ignaty8
7 жыл бұрын
Bob 😂 This is why I love this channel
@6006133
7 жыл бұрын
22:23 - this is wrong. While plenty of our behavior makes sense from a evolutionary standpoint, not all does. Many mutations that provide no benefit are created, and these can, down the road, become harmful, yet survive since you'r stuck in a local maxima. We have a blind spot since the architecture of our eyes is not optimal (squids don't have this defect). Same goes with behavior
@KenzieLaMar
7 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. In the week or 2 since I discovered it I have been listening to all your videos and joined all your groups I can find. I have shared your videos as well as told many friends about it. Great job. You have rapidly become one of if not my favorite KZitem channel. Thanks for all the hard work.
@isaacarthurSFIA
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kenzie, I'm glad you're enjoying them and sharing them out
@weishenmejames
6 жыл бұрын
This is the solidist video I've watched all day.
@OddRagnarDengLerstl
7 жыл бұрын
I love your naming of the computers!
@double-you5130
6 жыл бұрын
why arent these brilliant shows not viewed more?! i lovw these. thanks so much👍
@rbilleaud
5 жыл бұрын
I deal with AI in my job, and while the amount of data these "brains" can crunch is impressive, they're not nearly as smart as science fiction would have us believe.
@waytoohypernova
4 жыл бұрын
this made me imagine humans interacting with a god-like robot as dogs interact with their owners. (inspired by the "hal 9000" bit from 27:35) a human might ask the robot for a purpose (due to all need being cared for by the robot in whatever way that is, or other reasons), and the response might be "to help me in a symbiotic way, where we improve each others lives" and whether or not its true, said human would believe it and find joy in serving the same way a dog finds joy in their owner. (the same way we like helping others and find purpose in being needed and wanted) our pets give us comfort and something to take care of and love. and in turn, we give those pets pretty much whatever they could want. both benefit from it even though one is far more intelligent (and relatively omnipresent, seeing as we control the food, water, shelter, work, etc, and have a higher logic and intuition) than the other. technically, most of us don't *need* pets to live pretty comfortably, nor the other way around, so even a god-like robot with control over everything could find a purpose for us in the same way. under these circumstances, would i mind being basically a pet? likely no. seems pretty alright considering im otherwise uneeded. basically, you've really inspired me as always Isaac.
@siddharthverma1249
Жыл бұрын
I hate to say it but chatGPT, GPT4 and recent AI development is flipping this episode on it's head, the idea of diminishing returns and so on.
@thenewwaydevil
3 жыл бұрын
All praise be to the one amongst us we call Isaac Arthur. Truly our people our destined for greatness if our humble species can produce such wise, thoughtful, thought provoking men. For even if our race was to die out tomorrow, there can never be any denying that while we lived, we strived towards the unknown with courage. To whomever reads this, we never asked to be born. But here we are, alive this very second. Literal star dust. The universe looking back at it self. Truly. This is an awesome thing. Bless you all!
@riacheriefailla
4 жыл бұрын
it's already established, and we are adding to it with our experiential perspective sharing
@iriya3227
6 жыл бұрын
I re-watched this again after doing some research. I realized you missed out two HUGE factors when it comes to 4 and that is: AGI operates at Speed of light not the super slow 160m/s of Human brain Neurons and another important factor is memory storage. AGI Can store information completely and access it immediately instead of destroying and encoding it inefficiently like Human brain does. So yes AGI might not even be smarter than a human brain in first version but it's Brute processing power is what makes it powerful. Speed of Light is 2.5 million times higher than Human brain speed. Therefore every second for you is years for AGI. With so much processing power and memory you could teach a dog to be best Go player. Hence why AGI is far more powerful. It's algorithm is not actually smarter or more complex than a human brain algorithm, it just processes everything a lot faster and remembers everything it has processed perfectly. Now the only concern is the Goal setting and motivation of AGI. There can be a lot of trouble here and AGI actually acting on it's own. However when it comes to it's rewards/pleasure system, Apparently there are ways it can be controlled tho quite hard.
@musaran2
5 жыл бұрын
Also : The biggest gain in processing is always from better algorithms. If our first AGI design is extremely inefficient (very likely if based on our brains), then it could vastly improve itself just by modifying it's software, with no new hardware. This has the potential for week/hour/minute singularity stuff.
@helloyes2288
7 жыл бұрын
You could argue that there may be a lot of information that is implied by knowledge that we already have that no human has had the processing power or depth of understanding on a variety of subjects to notice.
@edumaker-alexgibson
7 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant, openminded analysis of the possibilities. Actually felt my view of the subject expanding, and becoming more optimistic.
@isaacarthurSFIA
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex!
@ninosaglia9809
Жыл бұрын
Hey Isaac, i notced you mentioned your speech being different in quite a few videos. And i just wanted to say it didn't bother me at all. In fact, i really enjoy it and it's partly why I started watching this channel.
@512TheWolf512
7 жыл бұрын
just wanna say, modelling an AI off of a human mind, which is terrifically flawed, is absolutely ridiculously dumb
@RealRick_Sanchez_C137
5 жыл бұрын
- What is my purpose? - You pass the butter
@felixarroyo3d
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting those quacks who put Christmas lights under their skin on blast.
@De4sher
8 жыл бұрын
i appreciate your emotional detachment and attempt to be as objective as possible. you've been creating the best content on the web for quite a while - thank you. if the human race goes through a global dark age when knowledge is lost, your videos are on the list of things i think should be saved
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, though I'd hope folks would improve on these and store those instead :)
@De4sher
8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the modesty, but since i'm your biggest fan, it's not necessary. Thank you for bringing this perspective to the world - I studied physics, but am now a programmer. You both quenched, and made my thirst for science worse! thank you man!
@isaacarthurSFIA
8 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome :)
@drhat77
7 жыл бұрын
One of the ways the simulation trap can be bypassed is if we manipulate the inputs of a very complex system, it's almost unthinkable that we won't make a math error of some point which will seem like a glaring glitch to a more sophisticated AI. No glitches, much more likely to be not a simulation.
@QuadsarX
4 жыл бұрын
We've been trying to get surgeons to help with implants for decades, but they won't do it. So we're stuck with piercers (and the ones who do subdermals *do* acthally have training in subdermal implantation, by the way) until standard practice allows surgeons to actuay help us. Also, that project was more proof-of-concept than endgoal. It was a test of larger subdermal implants and powered implant application. It really wasn't to my taste personally, but it still provided useful information which can be used in future projects.
@namewastaken360
6 жыл бұрын
Watching those apes that still kind of looks like fun. What does it mean to be smarter anyway? Faster reasoning (cpu)? Ability to concentrate (follow a program)? The ability to consider more concepts in you head at once (more RAM)? Maybe you can just add more sensory inputs or expressive outputs? Perhaps just expanding an artificial mind would be the way to improve it rather than redesigning the whole thing.
@martijnvanweele6204
4 жыл бұрын
I resent you suggesting HAL9000 would take over the earth, especially since his story is extremely relevant to your point about how we should treat AIs. With regards to HAL, there are two interpretations of _2001: A Space Odyssey;_ either HAL is fully sentient, or he isn't. If he isn't, then _2001_ becomes a cautionary tale of how we should be careful of how we program AIs. HAL did what he did because he was able to interpret his instructions as prioritizing the mission over the lives of his fellow crew, and also wasn't prepared for the possibility that he might make an error. So when he did make an error, he could only conclude that it was his crewmates who were wrong, and that he had to stop their misguided effort to turn him off by any means neccessary. If HAL _is_ fully sentient, however, his story becomes a much more tragic one. We see him start out proud of his computing prowess and the fact that he has never made an error. And then he does. We can't see it, because he is unable to show emotion, but that point where he says "puzzling", he is _freaking out._ And he continues to do so, not just because making a minor error puts his entire self-identity into question, but also because his crewmates essentially want to _euthanize him_ for making this minor error. Something they would never do for a human crewmate. His subsequent murder of the crew is then a desperate act of self-preservation. Of course, that does not excuse his actions, but it does paint a cautionary tale of how sentient AIs might feel about being treated as just machines.
@darthnihilus511
5 жыл бұрын
This is the first person I know of who hasn't accepted Moore's law as perfect. He actually does the homework and presents the facts!
@joela.4058
3 жыл бұрын
Damn this was a deep thinker. I get a strange sense of euphoria when I think about the ultimate fate of humans, life, consciousness, information (all really the same thing). we can’t even fathom the potential of it all, and will probably never be able to answer the question “why?”
@paxdriver
7 жыл бұрын
There has to be a singularity if there is a fixed speed of light. Neat video!
@lostbutfreesoul
4 жыл бұрын
That is the answer I aim for: Make not just a single intelligence but thousands of them. Statistically, we will make more then a few that want to protect us from those that may accidentally or willfully harm us.
@JosephAMuniz
7 жыл бұрын
Just binged on a ton of your videos and just wanted to say they are F'N AWESOME!!! I can't believe you don't have a History Channel program. It's too bad that they'll fund any number of the garbage they've chosen to air -- Pandering to the idiotic and "entertaining?" Your content is highly entertaining and should be the type of intelligent and thought provoking content that History Channel, Discovery, Learning Channel, Ect. SHOULD HAVE CHOSEN. Oh well... Just wanted to say I think your doing an amazing job and I'm thrilled to have stumbled upon it.
@isaacarthurSFIA
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joseph!
@JosephAMuniz
7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Thank you. I wanted to add also that I really enjoy the 1/2 hour format and the concise and structured format with which you present the various topics. I've shared your channel with other friends of mine that, like me, are engineering students, sci-fi fans and tech buffs. Maybe one day I might be able to help add to the wonderful work you're doing. Thanks again.
@baruchben-david4196
5 жыл бұрын
In all fairness, Moore's "Law" should be called Moore's Observation. He basically just noticed that there seemed to be an ongoing increase in the density of elements in computer circuits.
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