twisted treeline was legit, I was sad to see it was gone when I came back like 8 years later XD
@senegalus
4 ай бұрын
was amazing, would love getting it back
@soer7140
4 ай бұрын
Old twisted treeline tho, the rework was meh
@zodrickzheioh7318
4 ай бұрын
@@soer7140 oh? was there a rework, I stopped playing for like 7 years after season 3 so I only remember the old one.
@soer7140
4 ай бұрын
@@zodrickzheioh7318 They made it with altars and no top jungle, only a big boss mob, it was trash compared to the OG one
@zodrickzheioh7318
4 ай бұрын
@@soer7140 ouch. that is pretty lame, what a shame
@asadraneymusic
4 ай бұрын
34:21 Zwag accidentally sings the first 5 notes of a C major scale lol
@DjDoCDeS
4 ай бұрын
Shaco not knowing what twisted treeline is 😭
@spencesir
4 ай бұрын
bro was sniping fr
@josephbolton5893
4 ай бұрын
no, he knows. He clearly stated that Twisted Fate is Twisted Treeline. Which is the correct answer of course.
@sergioramirez978
4 ай бұрын
So basically torch is old Lyandry’s and new Liandrys is old Demonic minus the ap scaling
@arthurreede4478
4 ай бұрын
Plus 20% AP tho so might be even better ap scaling
@luanneirendern6729
4 ай бұрын
Day 1 of asking for a dickpic. 🎉😊
@NeuviletteBR
4 ай бұрын
Not really, lyandris is old lyandris again, and blackfire is what new lyandris was. Lyandris was always a hp ap item that give the burn but not the mana, they changed it when the mytics came, and now they are reverting it
@kyleberts
4 ай бұрын
“Did Zwagmo get the first 6 CS?” No, he missed a melee minion Lose Streak: 2
@RyanReynolds42069
4 ай бұрын
I really liked the shaco cameo in the intro
@Grazin1337
4 ай бұрын
Bring back twisted treeline and make it ranked
@spiritbomber9359
4 ай бұрын
@@bookedchimera I pretty regularly play in a three stack so TT coming back would actually make me happy
@normanderi
4 ай бұрын
@@bookedchimera my guy, im gonna be clear with you, you dont even know how big the community was, TT was loved, more than SR, but riot pushed people into 5v5 ranked, mainly because for the longest time riot didnt balance TT, it was the same stats as SR, not only that when they wanted to save TT it was already late, between ranked being the main focus and people already were in groups of more than 3 TT wasn't recoverable, but almost everyone who played it(and let me tell you, many people didnt even try it, i know a couple of people who played back then and never wanted to even try it) preferred it to SR...
@EeveeRealSenpai
4 ай бұрын
I would definitely not play it 👍
@antondavak553
4 ай бұрын
Loved twisted treeline
@marinebean420
4 ай бұрын
I miss Twisted Tree Line. Thanks for the content, Zwag.
@bossnonlinonliyoyo
4 ай бұрын
7:05 That Briar probablly ulted that way because her cursor was on her minimap while trying to aim at you
@xOnTheBrinkx
4 ай бұрын
No, I was aiming for bot lane
@bossnonlinonliyoyo
4 ай бұрын
@@xOnTheBrinkx If it's really you, I have so much questions
@xOnTheBrinkx
4 ай бұрын
@@bossnonlinonliyoyo Like what?
@ps7ykLiTT
3 ай бұрын
Deathfire Grasp was my favorite SR item back when AP Trist mid was a thing. Just DFG in mid-air right before you land on them and watch them disappear. Ah the good ol' days. Blackfire Torch was a TT-only item that was similar to DFG in the same manner that Wooglet's Deathcap was similar to Rabadon's. EDIT: Yeah the item equivalents between SR and TT were Blackfire Torch - Deathfire Grasp, Wooglet's Witchcrown - Rabadon's Deathcap + Zhonyas Hourglass
@martinibarra.ok16
4 ай бұрын
"have fun with the burns" BAHAHAHAH got me rolling
@Sterage1984
4 ай бұрын
I reckon the flicker blade will be real good in character like Jax. Having his leap and spinny block staff up alot would be brutal.
@braderbell6814
22 күн бұрын
Twisted treeline was the gamemode I used to play when I had no idea how the game worked!
@Shadowknight1224
4 ай бұрын
I think the flickerblade is designed for Sivir: she uses the attackspeed, AD and crit, and she can take advantage of the cooldown reduction on her E since it's free and on her W since it's her main DPS ability.
@Firestrait
4 ай бұрын
I bet flickblades were designed by a Sivir main since the icon is her weapon and she's a crit speed caster type adc
@Obsdragon
4 ай бұрын
Riots adding all these Twisted Treeline items to PBE... Are they trying to tease something? Definitely not coping...
@spiritbomber9359
4 ай бұрын
Dude I wish 😔
@guifdcanalli
4 ай бұрын
Im more worried with wathever is that madhouse happening at botlane, jhin with zephyr looks disgusting
@ReaperPR194
4 ай бұрын
Day 8 of thanking Zwag for his content. 🫡
@russellminard2578
4 ай бұрын
Day 1 of thanking the guy who thanks zwag for his content
@ArbolPerene
4 ай бұрын
Day 1 of thanking the guy that thanks the guy who thanks zwag for his content
@je425
4 ай бұрын
Day 1 of telling the dude he's a simp
@goliathmonster974
4 ай бұрын
Day 1
@e.j3916
4 ай бұрын
Yeah thank god zwag goes into silver games and ruins peoples day.
@nytrobomb3971
4 ай бұрын
How to apply 7 DoT's at once as Teemo: Items you need: Malignance Liandry's Blackfire Torch Shadowflame Yun Tal Wildarrows Sundered Sky Strategy: Throw down a Shroom Wait for someone to step on Shroom Shroom procs Malignance, Liandry's, Blackfire Torch, and it's own burn auto attack once for E passive and Sundered Sky Crit Sundered Sky procs burn from Yun Tal Wildarrows Ignite after auto for 7th and final DoT
@xOnTheBrinkx
4 ай бұрын
I have to admit the jump at 24:50 was not planned, but I was waiting in the fog of war there at the red side raptors for Zwag to use his blind. I'm thankful the Ezreal jumped in when he did.
@brackpin
4 ай бұрын
I miss my days as teemo. I used to drop shrooms EVERWHAR. If i didn't have at least half the map shroomed I was slacking. I quit lol for awhile when the shroom nerf happened.
@elijahwalker6620
4 ай бұрын
See, I wasn’t excited about the brand, but this, this brings me joy
@poopyfartballs5363
4 ай бұрын
How
@peytonengland4086
4 ай бұрын
Hey that Shaco player is pretty good
@spencesir
4 ай бұрын
blud is sniping fr 💀💀💀
@peytonengland4086
4 ай бұрын
@@spencesir It was a pbe game we were all viewers hehe
@spencesir
4 ай бұрын
@@peytonengland4086 ohhhhhhhh
@SyckestBlah
4 ай бұрын
So, at the time you got the Torch, Hwei had 1380 max hp, which means Liandry's would have dealt around 27 damage per second as well, while also giving another 6% increased damage, and providing health for survivability. I feel like Torch needs a bit more flat damage, to be honest, or Liandry's a bit less scaling. Logistically, a flat amount DoT should be stronger when acquired early, whereas a scaling DoT should be stronger later in the game.
@keyframejay
4 ай бұрын
Welcome to 'Zwagmos DPS Chart' The Rank of This Match: 13 out of 30 DPM: 1716.3 DPS: 28.6 (Chart started: 05.2024)
@天使霜
4 ай бұрын
when you said "who in the jungle would build this item" and all i can think is "MORGANA JG IS BAAAAAAACK"
@XCrack11
4 ай бұрын
You got me at twisted treeline
@MAZerath
4 ай бұрын
5:38 This item is a Lillia and Brand Jungle incognito buff
@kpny8484
4 ай бұрын
7:32 Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long, time.
@Bonyony
4 ай бұрын
Not the shaco listening to you're stream 😭
@roastbeefguy
4 ай бұрын
I could see some assassins wanting to build new quickblades. Or even some crit based ranged adc’s. I mean, think of jinx just spamming her traps and zapper. Or maybe even Kayle? It’s definitely not a first item or second item, but maybe third or fourth? Sure thing.
@roastbeefguy
4 ай бұрын
Master Yi could just permanently be in The Between Space with his Q 😂
@pbandslay9540
4 ай бұрын
5:45 I was thinking morgana jungle potentially
@Juicyuu
4 ай бұрын
Brand and malzahar are menaces with this item. We r fked
@НикитаЧупраков-ж8д
4 ай бұрын
Waiting for malza. His megaburn e for sure megahurts
@artyCynabal
4 ай бұрын
Please try the new burn item with AP Yorick - along with Liandry's and Malignance. Let Maiden cook!
@TheGreyestOfGons
4 ай бұрын
You already know teemo got something cooking up inside that space suit
@natedaniels3655
4 ай бұрын
New Zwag lore just dropped!
@joeclare1344
4 ай бұрын
wonder how well 4% AP burn ratio works with Veigar passive. Obviously not alot but its better then 1% the previous burn effect had.
@evtimbitrakov7634
4 ай бұрын
Bumping for Zwag bringing twisted treeline back!
@naikus3d
4 ай бұрын
5:36 Lillia would use this item in the jungle quite well. Karthus and Morg too
@Jay_EdwardS
4 ай бұрын
New Navori item with Essence Reaver sounds like it would make a really fun Vayne build.
@kokushogames3283
4 ай бұрын
New quickblades might be good with fiora
@lindwurm5976
4 ай бұрын
Blackfire Torch was the Twistet Treeline version of DFG
@BillBitGaming
4 ай бұрын
Reaver would be cool on nasus, if you have low mana, you can always use Q
@TheFixer710
4 ай бұрын
I think black torch was like DFG where you activated it on a target then they got really weak to abilities from you for a couple seconds
@TaffTheWanderer
4 ай бұрын
TT was where it was at! I loved running threes!
@safehouse432
4 ай бұрын
I dont think quick blades needs to be a crit item since they removed the bonus ability damage crit scaling and that all full crit items gives 25% crit making it ad and atkspd would make it more flexible for non crit builds and a good situational 4/5th item.
@Daniel-dz2pj
4 ай бұрын
@28:22 "why's this guy so tanky" as zwag casually shaves off 70% of his hp
@magnusm4
4 ай бұрын
I wish games copied LoL and WoW's art style. 22:08 LOOK at the dragon's den! It looks so damn good. The colors, emission colors, the shading and the amazing SFX artists doing effects. I don't care if it's a ripoff if it looks that good.
@ataxias8183
4 ай бұрын
bet that blackfire would be good on malz :)
@matthewdurden5501
4 ай бұрын
Black fire into malignance then deathcap seems super op
@garettmatheis933
4 ай бұрын
It will hit you if you stand still , and don't call me Shirley.
@Majael
4 ай бұрын
Maybe try some Quickblades Sivir? It works excelent with her ult passive. And you can throw hundreds of boomerangs :D
@brlegio
4 ай бұрын
I guess it would be nice the triple burn items with the collector and morello 😍
@jurb417
4 ай бұрын
5:45 brand and lillia obviously
@Darklordiban7
4 ай бұрын
Wonder if Leona could take enough advantage of Flickerblade for it to be worth it. Even if it's about as good as building haste then she could probably work a zero haste build, allowing her to build other stats.
@azleazz
4 ай бұрын
I miss twisted treeline. Still have the 2013 Vilemaw as my icon😢
@nklinef
4 ай бұрын
It could be an interesting item for Malphite, ult in on 5 people, then your W and E hit like a truck!
@thatgreenguy3969
4 ай бұрын
Should get seraphs with that mana. Big shield and AP on mana scale. Like a 700 HP shield and like 40 extra AP
@palomasanchez-jauregui1955
4 ай бұрын
“Can we get a like for twisted treeline?” Proceeds to 👍
@justinc_9623
4 ай бұрын
Twisted treeline was there for a little bit when I first started league. I had no idea what was going on yet tho
@windanger2023
4 ай бұрын
if you have the support item you can convert it to the 4th burn item.
@HildagardeGaming
4 ай бұрын
Would Blackfire Torch work with Twitch's passive?
@OfficialAnekito
4 ай бұрын
Bring bacl Twisted Treeline
@NeuroNinjaAlexander
4 ай бұрын
Tryn, possibly the windshitters and maybe Kaisa are the only champs I can think of that would like flickerblade
@isaiahbratton74
2 ай бұрын
Bro they don’t know anything about twisted treeline days !!! Ugh as a season 1 vet I miss the good days
@eclipzenic5371
4 ай бұрын
I just realized with that much mana you could build the item that gives you ap scaling with mana (I forgot tha name)
@clintongriffin2077
4 ай бұрын
That jhin? Chefboii is that taco?
@fellesii
4 ай бұрын
Liked for Twisted Treeline & for a Teemo game on Zwagmo channel 🙌
@gearsenshi6498
4 ай бұрын
What about Rumble with the new burn items? Any good?
@justinroylance4941
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great vid Zwag!
@Ptrixie
4 ай бұрын
Man i miss twisted treeline, the map was so cool. im still pissed riot got rid of it
@Rav3nism
4 ай бұрын
Would be cool to this build on a Malzahar for sure :)
@skylargray8047
4 ай бұрын
Bet new burn item would work awesome on jg amumu
@illuminarygeostryke765
4 ай бұрын
Hya, speaking of the Overlord's Bloodmail, isn't Garen also AD?
@pedroc.b.3874
4 ай бұрын
War Crime Thursday. Awesome.
@bzilla7820
4 ай бұрын
Twisted treeline was my favorite.
@graysonrowe9780
4 ай бұрын
Try the full ap jhin build with this item!
@andremadou38
4 ай бұрын
So basically teemo is gonna get gutted the second these changes are live 😂😂
@halycon404
4 ай бұрын
Not sure. They gutted him at the start of the season from overbuffed items. Then they nerfed the items after that. It was the one tricks keeping his WR high-ish, and all of the famous ones were struggling to hit Challenger this season. This looks more like what Teemo was power wise last season than he's been at any point this season.
@andremadou38
4 ай бұрын
@@halycon404 they nerf his r and e then nerfed the items
@mixedmex1
4 ай бұрын
ZWAG!! Do a shotgun sona build again!!
@leost152
4 ай бұрын
NIce item it would be possible to do 3 camps at the same time with Zyra jgl I guess
@xXluckyjoe7Xx
4 ай бұрын
“I wonder who in the jg would build that” as there’s a shaco jg in the game with him lol
@michaelblanco1549
4 ай бұрын
Anyone else think it would be cool if on death teemo dropped his shrooms at his death site?
@S_oX_x
4 ай бұрын
What about a hybrid teemo, AD burn and AP burn?
@TheXPsichoX
4 ай бұрын
Maligma is a joke at this point, even on Teemo. Blackfire Torch will give significantly more benefits.
@arthurjohnmasinda3287
4 ай бұрын
the most champ who will benefit from the fated ashes will be brand jungle
@mriuspopescu
4 ай бұрын
Sivir is the only champ I can think of for that item Flickerblades
@senhan2159
4 ай бұрын
Its 10 min in, and I haven't seen any corner shooms. Also RIP Twisted Treeline.
@fadhilyudistira8819
4 ай бұрын
shaco, teemo, jhin... that's 3 madmen in a team, I'm surprised the enemy team doesn't ff early.
@picklesthehobo6173
4 ай бұрын
trist will build quick blades maybe sivir?
@sheldonkelly7845
4 ай бұрын
Anyone have issues with the vanguard update thing?? I don’t have a tpm in my computer and have to buy one just to play it.
@WhiteMucci
4 ай бұрын
Thats the first Like on a youtube video in 15 years I've given.... better get Twisted Treeline back asap 👌
@Spura83
4 ай бұрын
The new item doesn't do as much damage as liandry's. Just a weak item overall. It also boosts AP by 4% per champ you're hitting, but liandry boosts your damage by a %, if you hit even a single champ with a shroom. Just a worse item overall. AP boost is also worse than a flat % damage increase, because that also affects base damages not just the scaling portion.
@CRBarron
4 ай бұрын
I bet Lucian with first item quickblades is going to be stupid.
@Danny-sf6xc
4 ай бұрын
brand in the jngl with that item gonna be disgusting
@coffeecorbean
4 ай бұрын
“Oh triple kill….”😅
@SilverLicas17
4 ай бұрын
Do still Navori's not stack with IE? Maybe crit Briar is possible, with Navori's, Phantom Dancer, Shieldbow, armor pen item and Bloodthirster...
@tanner.quintero
4 ай бұрын
How about 3 burn items + RoA + Seraphim to do some use to that Mana
@peterrudolph6410
4 ай бұрын
Jhin's Penta 4 like a Bakers Dozen is 13
@arcdraconis9579
4 ай бұрын
This feels like it's going to be good for sols
@aljoker7808
4 ай бұрын
Since those burn items have so much mana, would that be good for Ryze?
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