Seriously go follow Landon for helping to carry the video - I learned so much doing this. Subscribe if you want to see more collabs with other top Tekken players - I've been enjoying this game SO much, going to be covering this game for a bit. Also should be obvious, but no order within tiers.
@niwona_
8 ай бұрын
This is great! Probably edit the name though lol and timestamp for DJ. Nice work!
@lukanonymous5210
8 ай бұрын
LARDON
@blitzcomet3607
8 ай бұрын
Deal
@n.macneil
8 ай бұрын
love his insight - he's a dope guest
@ZyletaSF4
8 ай бұрын
Tekken 8 reminded me why I love fighting games, the last time I had similar vibrations was during sf4 era, i have already 60 hours on steam, sf6 and gbvr are great games, I would give them both 9/10 but there's always something that bothers me about them, with tekken 8 it's different I can't find anything I don't like and that's quite surprising especially since I'm more of a street fighter player, Tekken 8 is as great as Tekken 3 was in year 1998
@DoctorSoctopus
8 ай бұрын
I’ve been learning Yoshimitsu for 20 years
@kevincroft3087
8 ай бұрын
I would like to fight you online. Just to see what that looks like.
@CletisTheWaterbear
8 ай бұрын
This comment rocks.
@hgtv9303
8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@maaramori3404
8 ай бұрын
Ah, fellow grandmaster player
@Arnuld15Governator
8 ай бұрын
I've been having so much fun with him on online ranked and playing offline. I was 7 when I picked Yoshimitsu on Tekken 3 and enjoyed him on Tekken 5 DR. I feel like 8 has been the best he has been since 3 and 5.
@Cretlee
8 ай бұрын
Always remember, don't skip a character just because people say they're hard to play or because they're "a low tier character". Play whoever you think is fun and fits your playstyle!
@winspyy
8 ай бұрын
Almost as if tier lists are dumb... lmao
@mhead1117
8 ай бұрын
Ppl gonna read this comment then commit seppuku after missing their 100th electric
@EXISTENTRILLEST
8 ай бұрын
except azucena
@BrokenNoah
8 ай бұрын
Tier lists only matter when you are at the highest of level of play and even then rarely do high skill players have identical tier listings. It's just internet argument fodder for the rest of us plebs. For the majority, matchup knowledge is way more important.
@Darkerxz
8 ай бұрын
this! so much this! please pick up the hardest character, completely fail at it and then drop the game entirely and never play it again
@arguablyokay7824
8 ай бұрын
"The scary thing about fighting a bear is that you don't want a bear to get close to you." is a really good piece of advice for life in general, honestly.
@utarefson9
3 ай бұрын
Someone forgot to tell this to one half of humanity...
@-8h-
8 ай бұрын
Easy: Hard: all of them
@B.CREAT1
8 ай бұрын
Entire game feels like learning a fucking dictianory out of my head
@_zombiezone
8 ай бұрын
@@B.CREAT1literally, the second I think I’m getting the hang of things I get mixed by something I didn’t even know existed. That or I do a move I didn’t even know as well
@pretzels7437
8 ай бұрын
Lol feng is insanely easy
@gilet102
8 ай бұрын
@@_zombiezonelol that’s Tekken. There’s a lot of tools both you and your opponent can employ.
@ReshadSafi-pb7wv
8 ай бұрын
I think the hardest aspect about Tekken is the defense
@egebamyasi2929
8 ай бұрын
Been playing Dragunov and I can FEEL the power. Easy, straightforward and strong. Not even gonna pretend like my brain is working overtime. Mad fun tho.
@XamusTV
8 ай бұрын
Bro is going crazy in strategist rank 😂
@adilky
8 ай бұрын
@@XamusTV LOL unprovoked
@hakageryu-hz7jz
8 ай бұрын
@@XamusTV game is full of scrubs right now. I don't mean just people who suck (like me), I mean people spamming the same 3 or 4 moves over and over again. Dragunovs are among the scummiest.
@Boozyking
8 ай бұрын
@@hakageryu-hz7jzskill issue get good and maybe you won’t get spammed by the same moves 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@swolsauce9923
8 ай бұрын
@@hakageryu-hz7jzyea it’s expected because it’s still new. You have a lot of new players that probably never even played tekken before so they are learning. If they find something that works then of course they are going to keep using it. Scummy or not, if you lose to it that means you failed to adapt.
@Neltharak
8 ай бұрын
... Somehow landon just being like "hey just do this move this move and this move and you're golden" is a better character guide than 95% of the content on youtube, he should make a series
@pogituna
7 ай бұрын
basically giving the bread and butter for the characters
@fernandozavaletabustos205
8 ай бұрын
Nice video as always! Tekken fans are having a blast right now!
@sigma_the_enigma1394
8 ай бұрын
Never invested time in a fighting game before but this looks really good might actually give it a try.
@paulcrimson3824
8 ай бұрын
I play Tekken since i was a kid. But even for new players its very worth it ! If you rly buy it. You won't regret it. And even if you strugle first you will learn it with time or watch pros. But anyway the game teaching very good too with all the single player content what it has now. And just play who ever you want.
@SavageRodent
8 ай бұрын
I didn't invest into a fighting game till Tekken 7. I'd recommend just learning a handful of moves at a time, and once you're confident with your knowledge of the character you're playing, look some stuff up on them like juggles and important moves. And get accustomed to losing, because you're going to get stomped. At least that was my experience when starting in T7.
@Sw4xDesigns
8 ай бұрын
i am dogshit at fighting games but i played 13 hours over the last two days
@juiceeer3320
8 ай бұрын
You can try but you will cry
@Cutthroat__
8 ай бұрын
Trust me u not gonna get good it takes years and years i been playing tekken since 5 and im still learning new stuff tbh😂😂
@kurosaki0808
8 ай бұрын
I picked hworang because i remember button mashing with him on tekken 3 way back when and now i can dress him up as sanji from one piece so it’s even better
@NoahHiser-i4h
7 ай бұрын
On G thats amaing.
@markfufuh1014
7 ай бұрын
Oooh, cool idea 👍👏
@Perofgloves
7 ай бұрын
No way ur a hwo main and saying he’s button mashing hwo is a hard charecter to learn
@kurosaki0808
7 ай бұрын
@@Perofgloves i think you need reading glasses. I said i remembered button mashing in tekken 3.. i'm obviously putting time and effort into the character now
@kaskafi
7 ай бұрын
@@Perofgloves hes a hard character to play properly. hes not a difficult character to get to orange/red ranks with by just mashing shit
@JemuzuDatsWho
8 ай бұрын
This was a very good video, and Landon's wise words of "just throw shit out" makes me feel better about starting tbh. May get this game this weekend and give it my best :)
@SilentMeDude
8 ай бұрын
Do it dude! Just getting into fighting games myself this past year! Just got my pc fixed to try two fighting games out, but I’ve been playing street fighter 6(my favorite right now) mk1(dropped after the first week 😕), guilty gear, and now tekken 8! Tekken 8 feels so flipping good right now and very excited to explore my favorite characters , Steve, Kuma and Leo! This game reminds me of street fighter where every character feels unique that play. Sadly why I don’t like mk1 :/ loved mk11 tho
@newphonewhodis7152
8 ай бұрын
dont overthink it, sometimes u just need to hit your coolest move. Dont get fixated on wins alone and enjoy yourself, we are happy for every newcomer
@JayRacer
7 ай бұрын
In my opinion, it’s the easiest fighter there is. The layouts are super ergonomic (top 2 are L & R punch, bottom 2 are L & R kick). The moves are the easiest in all fighting games (again, just my opinion). Just rotate a half hour in practice and a half hour in arcade. Or rotate a half hour in practice, then turn on the cpu in practice.
@SillyRobot
6 ай бұрын
SFV is easier, at least at a beginner level. Spend 5 minutes in practice, or just practice in between games and your set for bronze to silver.
@jon630
8 ай бұрын
I wasn't familiar with Landon before this, but now I'm an instant fan. Dude's energy is infectious, and he seems super knowledgeable. Ended up watching the whole thing. Already followed him on Twitch. Great vid, Dia!
@KrsJin
8 ай бұрын
I planned to fast forward to see the list in the end but then found myself watching the whole thing. Thanks Diaphone and Landon for this!
@hm-jt3os
7 ай бұрын
Yeah i didn’t even realize im 48 minutes in already
@nonsequiter100
8 ай бұрын
Old school Tekken head here. Shaheen’s charge isn’t the first charge move in Tekken. Law had a down/up charge flip in Tekken 1. Great vid!!
@tylermings9276
8 ай бұрын
So glad I stuck around till the end, really needed that "atleast I have Nun chucks" line lol
@TwoyBwoy
8 ай бұрын
Nina is so cool, but she's definitely hard to understand at first. However, once it's clicks it all becomes easier. I play her very mixup heavy and it works. The Hayashida step is a nice tool as well.
@justinmour6928
8 ай бұрын
Im a Nina main as well and I just made it to Vanquisher. What is your go-to game plan with her?!
@TwoyBwoy
8 ай бұрын
@@justinmour6928 I don't know if my other reply saved, sorry if this is repetitive, but I suppose I don't do anything too crazy different. I use her grabs probably more often than other people. She has so many it makes it easy to vary it up. Also, it's almost not fair she can cancel so many things and make them super safe. Started actually learning combos and this video (kzitem.info/news/bejne/0WltuKuwimKpp44si=OOi_UZb_rUWtmkFC&t=1) is really good. Their new video is also good as well.
@TwoyBwoy
8 ай бұрын
@@justinmour6928 I stopped playing Tekken 7 a few years ago, so I had to get used to her again. I think she is very good in general and I think my biggest tip would be to not always worry about going for optimal stuff or flashy stuff if it's too risky. Tournament combos! lol.
@justinmour6928
8 ай бұрын
@@TwoyBwoy hahaha yeah you’re right about that!! I’ll stay focused on the fundamentals, her pressure game, frame traps, and using those moments to bait the big 80 damage combos I have lock and loaded!! Thank you!
@NiteVenom
8 ай бұрын
Perfect opportunity to fight his ghost and find out for yourself. Might pick up some new tech@@justinmour6928
@uruk_bye1232
8 ай бұрын
Landon is hilarious, and I love the Tekken enthusiasm. Fighting game players have been eating good lately.
@Jonkin715
8 ай бұрын
I been gorging on this game since I got it Tuesday night. Already clocked over 40 hrs in this game.
@bigchocolatemilk5859
8 ай бұрын
First Tekken game tryna learn Reina is a struggle XD
@lichtbach7693
8 ай бұрын
Mishimas can be challenging but they're cool af
@ExSoldier101
8 ай бұрын
Mishimas are difficult but so rewarding once it clicks
@qweqweqwadcsc
8 ай бұрын
Yeah keep lying to yourself A normal hit launcher df2 and hopkick makes the character a struggle to learn If you want true Mishima suffering, play Devil Jin or Kazuya
@gloominaati3105
8 ай бұрын
Im learning Yoshimitsu atm....so many stances. Fun as hell though
@Alvis44
8 ай бұрын
@@qweqweqwadcsc kaz and devil jin have tools that reina doenst have like actual lows lmao its a trade off
@TheDankMagician
8 ай бұрын
Diaphone, you genuinely just make some the of most in-depth, but easily digestible fighting game content there is. Thank you for making this cause I'm slightly struggling with character identity crisis lol, I want to be a Kuma player, but I know I might not have a great time in the long run and I just need to learn the fundamentals and maybe starting off with a less niche character will probably help.
@jamalsiddique1362
8 ай бұрын
nah bro just play kuma, you'll have more fun playing the character you want to.
@chumchum9899
8 ай бұрын
Kuma legitimately terrifying to fight rn, just don't be an idiot and spam 111
@justaotter2085
6 ай бұрын
u can learn fundamentals with any characters tone down the gimmicks and see what strengths weakness they have play around that try to see what players do then adapt to that u can learn to catch whiffs by df1 2 , sneak jabs db1,2 u can frustrate turtles with b1 , chip damage moves what do you do against his bad moment play patients and when they least expect it go crazy stance mixups are great when players respect you and gimmicks are fun to do from time to time just don't be too involved into them overall but this is stuff to be acquired gradually , Have fun and learn with your pace , in the end this is a game you turn to after a tired day of work , to escape from everyday stress , have a good time , please don't let this feeling die down
@160maverick
8 ай бұрын
Man, Yoshimitsu is so hard they don't even know you CAN combo out of flash and think most of his moves are "useless" and barely know what he can do
@jimmyrustles1988
8 ай бұрын
Only when you get it in No sword stance or heat. I think you can get a small follow up with Sword Flash, but nothing crazy. And most of his moves aren't useless. That's the fun of the character, you use everything to mix up your opponent.
@felipev4077
8 ай бұрын
the most useless move is 4,4,4, shits not even a CH anymore, but its a legacy move so i understand why they wont take it out
@blizzard2733
8 ай бұрын
@@jimmyrustles1988 you get guarenteed b22 on sword and that engages heat so still insanely strong, most of his moves arent "useless" simply for the fact no one uses them, you can throw out lots of moves that act as a knowledge check on often times they will land. Its really nice as a yoshi main because of lot of what I know others dont, and fighting other yoshis lets me see moves that I never use optimized and its really nice to see.
@irshman1845
7 ай бұрын
@@felipev4077 Pretty decent on the wall if your are parallel to the wall.
@brandonmalady4425
7 ай бұрын
Me a new player who started with Yoshi and Devil Jin. Honestly it wasn’t bad at all
@jarrickhillery8664
8 ай бұрын
I’ve always played King in arcades bc I thought he looked cool as a kid. Tekken 8 is the first Tekken game I’ve owned and I’m excited to learn all he has in his toolkit.
@larrisonsteel273
8 ай бұрын
Im a completely new player but raven just speaks to me man been enjoying learning him fs
@AndyNocturne
8 ай бұрын
I loved this video so much. You guys are both wholesome af, this was just awesome
@Buhllake
8 ай бұрын
this is my first Tekken game and I am trying SO hard to learn Azucena and its really rough LOL Seeing that she's easy kinda freaks me out, I feel kinda stupid. Having a lot of fun though.
@wuulfay
8 ай бұрын
Really amazing video and some insight per character, to have them fleshed out without having to play everything to know whats going for who. Thanks!
@crazycubanjr
8 ай бұрын
I’m so amazed Landon know like all the inputs for all the characters.
@HargunSV
7 ай бұрын
hes been playing for 12 years
@zxcvcxzzxcvcxz2717
8 ай бұрын
Xiaoyu is really hard to learn if you wanna be a master on her. I was tgp we always consider so many situations, setups,okizemes and possibilities during playing
@topshotta2000
29 күн бұрын
She not that hard to play with nina Williams is hard 😢
@zxcvcxzzxcvcxz2717
29 күн бұрын
@@topshotta2000 only button mashing, not strategic....
@maikelm20
8 ай бұрын
As a new Tekken player I appreciate you going through the inputs (and having the input display on).
@nichtzisch-ps2dq
8 ай бұрын
finally a good video on this topic from someone.landon is crazy he knows everything LMAO hes like a lexicon
@punishedwhispers1218
8 ай бұрын
Landon doesn't know what hes talking about at all
@elijahc5331
8 ай бұрын
Diaphone the goat forreal 🙏🏼
@maxo187
8 ай бұрын
ong no kap
@majones117
7 ай бұрын
"if you like rhythm games, try Lee." That is actually very accurate. I love his just frames
@nickg1828
7 ай бұрын
First tekken game since ps2. Went with Jun and I haven’t looked back
@kyx5631
7 ай бұрын
Started with Jin to get into understanding the basics of Tekken. Then switched to Victor very quickly, because I loved his trailer. Not even pretending that I'm using a lot of brain power, I can spam 2 for a good portion of the match and get away with it. I thought about trying Leroy, but tohught he would be very hard. Thanks for the heads-up, I will look deeper into him, now.
@HiImAiden
8 ай бұрын
This video made me a fan of Landon, explains things super well, this is my first TEKKEN and I really wanna play Hworang, gave me a good sense of what I needed
@iZonkGaming2021
8 ай бұрын
Heyyy same, lets go🔥
@shinobgaming528
8 ай бұрын
Didn’t know how I felt at first about Diaphone doing a Tekken ranking because “how would this guy know” but I enjoyed it and I like how he brought Landon in to give experienced insight great vid🙏🏽
@Valaurentine
8 ай бұрын
Kazuya having PEWGF and his 31df, f cancels makes him the hardest mishima alone. He also relies heavily on execution with ewgf being one of his most used punishes. I'd say hes top 3 hardest.
@RR35031
4 ай бұрын
Lol sure. kazuya is hurr durr 50/50 or ewgf
@QuimZangui
8 ай бұрын
51:25 Finally, someone who understands the character and doesn't put him as an intermediary just because he doesn't know the character. Thanks man 🙏🏾
@kato093
8 ай бұрын
Really? The dude that said that dragunov is super easy and op? Just to say that characters with wave dash and crouch dashes are more difficult and more rewarding with stronger tools cuz they are harder to use? While raven is a baby mode crouch dash character? One of the easiest slightly complicated characters to use, while he clones, auto parries, built in crushing properties, easy mode evasion,infinite range for some moves? Dragunov doesn't have most tools like a good df2, good strings, good mids (awful hotboxes for mids and super slow. The only good one is CD4 and a sideways fart will let you sidestep it. A characters stance moving around gets them off axis enough to make him whiff most of his moves). Dragunov is strong now but only because of easy wr moves (still nowhere near like what azucena has, where she tracks with the second hit that's a high, so to avoid her we move you have to sidestep and duck super fast or whiff the first hit and dick the 2nd. Drags wr2 gets stepped super easily by a single step). And also his damage thanks to a new string coupled with the weird hit grab at the wall. Remove that and he is back to being Tekken 7 dragunov.. where he was bottom 5.
@killerkrok55
8 ай бұрын
@@kato093idk man bottom 5 in t7 is a stretch and besides that even if he was (and he clearly wasnt) hes still not hard to play at all. Sure there are characters that are easier to play than him but make no mistake drag is a scrub pick plain and simple. If you find it hard to win then thats on you G.
@kato093
8 ай бұрын
@@killerkrok55 dragunov is a trash tier character in Tekken 7 my dude. The only way he had to make you duck was D2 and dealt no damage. His best move was wr2 and it's one of the easiest moves to sidestep. He had the worst wall damage in the game. His mids were atrocious and had the worst hotboxes in the whole game (high crushing moves would consistently duck under almost every single mid he had). He had zero tracking and the only tracking move that was consistent was D2 and df3+4 (one of the worst moves in the game). You can ask any pro player, they will tell you that dragunov was a joke at the end of Tekken 7. In Tekken 8 he is a lot stronger thanks to a strong low, better mix ups, qcf4 (A GOOD MID! FINALLY) and the damage at the wall being massively buffed. And no, he is not easy compared to most of the case. Be was and still is intermediate, even if a lot easier to use in Tekken 8 (I'm so sad his F3 sway cancel into 1 are not as useful anymore). Most scrubs hate dragunov because they suck. It's usually the same people that hate kazuya for his vortex. Usually it's victor players (let's not name names). But yeah, it's a surefire way to see who is a noob and who is not just asking how good dragunov is, right after asking the same question about kazuya. That one is to see if you are a complete scrub. After that, it's an Eddy question, which says if you are intermediate or lower. At least for Tekken 7.
@QuimZangui
8 ай бұрын
@@kato093 Bro, stay calm, I'm not talking about Dragunov but about Raven, and I don't care if he puts Raven in the easy, intermediate or difficult position, I'll continue to love the character and play with him, whatever I wanted to highlight, it's the explanation he gave about the character, because a lot of people don't understand the character, they don't give a convincing explanation and they just say "It's a character full of mixups, teleports and stuff" and puts him in the position intermediate, not because they exactly think the character is intermediate but because they don't understand the character, they don't understand the game plan behind the character.
@corbinmohr5977
8 ай бұрын
Bro you think you know more than Landon lmao drag is easy as hell
@VocalTK
8 ай бұрын
Landon happy to be called a pro for the first time ever lol. I know I should've expected this video for tekken since you do it for all the games you try but I didn't think it'd happen this early, ngl.
@rinzlur-k6m
8 ай бұрын
8 is the first Tekken I’ve played online and at launch. Decided to main Reina and having a blast with her. She also has some great costume customizations.
@marqueeungovernable6170
8 ай бұрын
Lee main since Tag 1 here, yeah not very beginner friendly but once muscle memory kicks in, it is smooth sailing.
@BillyBlakeington
8 ай бұрын
Muscle memory implies you're not a beginner though so that doesn't apply for new people
@jacobtridef48
8 ай бұрын
i been a Lee main since T4(3 was my first but he wasnt in it) but tbh i always imagined he was near the middle on difficulty. but after playing him for years ig id be biased cuz i have the muscle memory nowadays.
@theanti-hypemonitor9079
8 ай бұрын
@@BillyBlakeington this is exactly what he wrote
@MrDxfusion
7 ай бұрын
Lmao is it fuck. You need to get used to the feeling of dropping combos and pickups, regardless of how good you are you will constantly be messing up with Lee.
@Fariorn
8 ай бұрын
Very insightful Tier List! YOu did a great job with that!
@arzos2603
8 ай бұрын
Well as a beginner to Tekken and being Peruvian i think Azucena seems to be a no brainer
@metalsadman
8 ай бұрын
they need to nerf her brain dead running move, at least remove the tracking, that shit is too op I don't even play and jus spectate now but that's so infuriating to see whenever someone spams that.
@JadenDaJedi
8 ай бұрын
@@metalsadmanyeah, leave the mid plus homing running moves to Dragunov mains! We need it :)))))
@rejectscorner9939
8 ай бұрын
@@metalsadman >someone who doesn’t play wants nerfs
@supernicral
8 ай бұрын
@@metalsadman "I don't even play" but you want a nerf I'm crying that's Twitter discourse summarized in a nutshell
@celzolsen8988
8 ай бұрын
so you have to subject yourself continually to a shitty game to have an opinion? idiot@@rejectscorner9939
@UgandalfTheBrown
8 ай бұрын
I like how Landon is the only one that still thinks Law is on a harder side to play, opposite to the whole "they made DSS easy so now the character is easy to play" sentiment. It really is all about timing His WS4 into DSS moves are still tricky to do perfectly and CH WS4 into DSS 3+4 4 is still really hard to do and even harder to time with the new input
@halcyonflo0r952
8 ай бұрын
I love how you cover so many fighting games. Whenever a new fighting game comes out i always land on your videos completely on accident. Youve far passed earn my sub but hadn't until now 🤘
@deleonfountain8220
8 ай бұрын
I haven’t played since tekken 2. Had a tiny bit of experience with kaz in smash and hoped it would translate so I picked him up in this game and it’s a humbling experience
@neoinuyashafight
8 ай бұрын
I also haven't played since tekken 2. I picked up Asuka, and she is really fun. I hopped online for the first time yesterday, and I went 3 outta 7. Definitely have a LOT to work on.
@joesizzle10
8 ай бұрын
He's not that hard, if you learn him learning other characters will be easier.
@codred84
7 ай бұрын
I gotten everything down except pewgf and wavedashing. I can do regular electrics and make it work. Keep pushing
@abnormal_titan26
8 ай бұрын
been waiting for this video
@soulvagabond9655
8 ай бұрын
This vid actually taught me a little bit about my main Shaheen, I didn't know about the forward back, or that I could do my charge while side stepping
@skyboundzoo
8 ай бұрын
Played law super casually in tekken 6 - but only played against CPUs Im learning steve and law this time around! i appreciate the commentary on all the characters!
@dramaticdog337
7 ай бұрын
I started playing Tekken about a week ago, my boyfriend just asked me if i wanted to try and i immediately got hooked. And i picked Yoshimitsu, i've been getting my ass kicked a lot and most of my time playing is in trainning mode to learn his moves a bit better. I thought i just sucked until i heard everyone collectively agree i didn't exactly pick a beginner friendly character. I'm keeping my boy anyway. He's so much fun to learn and it just makes it all so much more satisfying when i get his moves right and start winning. Dead set on learning and mainning him. My boyfriend mains Kazuya so he also trainned me up a nice ghost to train with which is a mechanic i love because it's easy to get a move right when i have a million years to think about what i need to do since nothing is hitting me back. It's nice being able to test if i'm gonna be able to be consistant while something actually fights back and i have to be faster .
@BlobFGC
8 ай бұрын
You rated some characters on their skill ceiling, and some others on their skill floor. List feels weirdly inconsistent.
@Arkoddctrl
7 ай бұрын
Great video, I'm maining Law and I thought he was easy! Thanks for the slide trick
@SonnyJim173
8 ай бұрын
Love being a character loyalist when a new game drops and they are top tier lol
@Edge9404
8 ай бұрын
Me with Nina.
@polakuu
8 ай бұрын
it's tierlist for how easy or hard they are to learn... not how strong they are
@SonnyJim173
6 ай бұрын
@@polakuu I'm not talking about the list just speaking in general
@DD-fs7pg
5 ай бұрын
Of course Landon would put Law as "hard". Also he's basically a "secret S tier", being proven from EVO Japan.
@kosicamael4111
8 ай бұрын
if you ever feel like giving up just remember i play panda with the bumblebee outfit. Im a proud bumblebee panda main and currently vanquisher and its been 1 week or so. Have fun playing what you like.
@chrislabedzski9076
7 ай бұрын
Tbh most people rather care about the highest rank and high rank players fights and ranks in Tekken games is what is all about
@slowmotion8731
8 ай бұрын
Law has been my main since the beginning. This new tekken is fantastic
@b4ckwoodbilly
8 ай бұрын
Diaphone is great, and Landon D is a phenomenal tekken player, but if you’re looking at this video for the actual difficulty tier list, this one is NOT the move💀
@LethalAscend
8 ай бұрын
Where to go
@Yorkeh
8 ай бұрын
@@LethalAscend Fergus's character introductions are pretty useful imo. Just google "tekken 8 fergus characters overview reddit" and it should be the first result that shows up
@riki4404
8 ай бұрын
ahahah mad cause your main is easy eh?
@b4ckwoodbilly
8 ай бұрын
@@riki4404 I actually play Bryan and Lee💀 but go off lil dude
@Itsallover57
8 ай бұрын
@@riki4404proud cause yours is "hard"? 😂😂😂
@amikawi
8 ай бұрын
Cool video. Thanks Dia and Landon!
@BrokenNoah
8 ай бұрын
1:07:46 "...two thirds of his move is useless..." I wouldn't call a lot of his moves as straight up useless but rather situational. If you rely only on a few of Yoshi's moves and you get predictable, you're dead more so than a lot of other characters. A lot of his moves are high risk/okay rewards but even above the noob ranks, throwing them randomly can catch people sleeping. A lot of his situational moves are used to setup his actual useful ones. He's a good knowledge check character.
@Jonkin715
8 ай бұрын
Excellent description of the character.
@stuckwchuck
2 ай бұрын
Coming back to this video 5 months later and no one articulates the logic of a Feng player quick like Landon has here. I am not good, but the more I learn about the game and my main, the better I understand how everything works. It's a true mountain to learn Feng since you need to know almost ALL 100+ moves & movement to make him the monster that people say he is.
@EldritchMephi
8 ай бұрын
Yoshi is my main and im having a ton of fun with the silly ninja man despite his complexity
@Cyhyraeths
7 ай бұрын
"Pick who looks cool cos when it gets tough, at least you have nunchucks" is the greatest fighting game quote i've ever heard 😂
@Tentacl
8 ай бұрын
Man, you chose the right dude to invite, not only he knows his stuff but he's GREAT at explaining. Kudos.
@willfarmer9873
8 ай бұрын
Such great info!! First Tekken game and LOVING it
@natyinc9611
8 ай бұрын
As a former Tekken 7 Feng main, the character is easy as fuck. Yes, you should know how to apply every move of his - but that goes for every other character. Want a free, easy gameplan? Here you go: DF1, B4, B1, DB3, SS4, UF2, DF3, and use his jab a lot. Would you like to be plus? B3 is a new i22 mid that's +6 on block. Want to prevent opponents from pressing? When minus, simply choose one of the following: kenpo (B3+4), BF1, B1, 1+2 (sabaki), or do some high crush move like DB3. Speaking of broken lows - is DB3 not enough for you? Go with QCF1: a i22, -14 on block, +2 on hit, launch on counter-hit low that's immune to low parry and has high-crush, or just go for SS4 (i21, clean-hit launching low). Feng has ZERO mechanical skill involved (the hardest thing you can do in combos is dashing jabs, delaying F,(F)4,3, or doing side-steps for realignment), most of his moves are either cracked or average at worst, and he has counters for almost every conceivable situation. Feng is easy af, don't be gaslit into believing that he takes much effort to play.
@keaton3258
8 ай бұрын
This almost reads as a salt post lmao, all characters take a ton of effort to play at higher levels
@Edicted.
8 ай бұрын
DF1 0 on block D4 0 on hit, imminent CH B1 trade go brrrr FR though Feng insanely simple to play since T7
@HWHY
8 ай бұрын
Been waiting on this video for days! Thank you for your efforts.
@SageLykos
8 ай бұрын
Maining Leo because I love the way they look and feel. As a new Tekken player it is definitely a challenge. I've been having more fun than any other fighting game I have played though.
@TacDonut
8 ай бұрын
First time Tekken player here and I used Reina for all of arcade quest and went through it no problem. It was very fun too! I didn’t even know she had the wave dash wind god stuff until after I was finished with it.
@shardulaswal2200
8 ай бұрын
Yoshimitsu mentioned raaaaaaaaaahhh 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@MrDxfusion
7 ай бұрын
Lee, Mishima's and Steve need their own difficulty tier list. Mixup chars with heavy movelists benefit 10X more to the player than the opponent. You literally are a walking knowledge check. Reason I don't include Bryan is alot of his heavier execution stuff really isn't actually necessary to be semi good with the char. With the ones mentioned that isn't the case.
@Wingnut202
8 ай бұрын
I think its very hard to justify putting Reina, a full mishima with perfect electrics, more just frames than all the other Mishimas, mandatory stance transitions that you must learn as a beginner because they come from your bread and butter punishes, with options that will get you killed if you don't know what you're doing, and 3 seperate (technically 5, but its really 3) stances, in average, because she has a ff2 with some fake pressure if your opponent doesn't know how to duck it... Especially with Nina, a NOTORIOUS scrub killer with easy strings that will demolish an opponent who doesn't know them, in the harder tier. Seems like its a bit inconsistent.
@reinventing5633
8 ай бұрын
nina's strings have been nerfed i belive, she no longer has plus on block strings but i do agree with you on Reina
@nofuccerino6025
8 ай бұрын
I mean, wanna talk about Jin and Reina in the tier below Kazuya? When kazuya is hands down the easiest mishima, people still act like doing electrics is hard.
@unverifiedverified4418
8 ай бұрын
yea, putting king on easy, wtf... all the females are toxic super sonic speed, that B.A. lars too.
@mag51284
8 ай бұрын
Almost every tekken character I've played has ewgf input in their kit somewhere, its not a crazy move like you said@@nofuccerino6025 I play king and ewgf before the RDC grabs. EWGF is just a shoryuken with a neutral in the middle practically
@Eanakba
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, i think she's like heihachi but more complicated, at least as hard as dvj with how ass her lows are
@agustinadrianuy7498
7 ай бұрын
haha this is nice. Ive seen this type of reviews on watches and its nice to see it done on tekken :)
@memelord8325
8 ай бұрын
Tell me you don’t play Lili without telling you don’t play Lili💀
@alan133
8 ай бұрын
Take 30 minute to an hour learning her matchup/mixup and you shut down 90% of her stuff and Lili is forced to play defensive. She does have an easier time in T8 because she no longer feels all in-ish with those additional safe moves now where before she's pretty all in.
@memelord8325
8 ай бұрын
@@FrozenFacade 100% agree with u
@rysonic618
8 ай бұрын
Life of a lee main is playing him so much you can tell people why do you think he is hard he is easy then you do a ten year long combo on them and 3 points of there health go down and you feel amazing
@azuuku
8 ай бұрын
under one minute crew rise up
@roboticgentlemen1970
8 ай бұрын
Under 30 min gang like this
@Beans113
8 ай бұрын
I’ll have my wife vouch for me but I promise I’m an under one minute man.
@mhead1117
8 ай бұрын
Bro is king of the never touching grass squad
@yhaerysthethird6088
8 ай бұрын
Why is this a flex? Being the first in a video is the stupidest and most no life thing ever
@azuuku
8 ай бұрын
@@mhead1117 I just happened to refresh my youtube at the most opportune time.
@sofiaruthana5301
7 ай бұрын
when i study tekken more than i study at school, this game is so hard, but it is fun although I get insane from time to time.
@jacobkoberstein9793
8 ай бұрын
You actually do get a full combo from flash in No Sword Stance or in heat mode. Nice video tough, quality work.
@bratosin1
7 ай бұрын
I will always love Marshall law /bruce lee , dragon kicks , kung fu , jet kune do moves , one inch punch ,yep this is in the game
@blitzcomet3607
8 ай бұрын
How was Diaphone the first to make this
@FrozenJohn12
8 ай бұрын
Mainman didn't do a tier list but he did something similar day 1
@comeatme_nick9945
8 ай бұрын
I’ve played Xiaoyu since T3 but only rrally mained her starting T5 and the only reason really is… i liked how her bracelets had like neon light effects when she moves 🙃
@TheCynicalJay
8 ай бұрын
Grew up on Soul Calibur, so sink or swim, I'm maining Yosh! It is my first Tekken however lol
@BrokenNoah
8 ай бұрын
As a fellow Yoshi main, good luck and party hard.
@MCBwasabii
7 ай бұрын
Never forget to party! Your opponent will be expecting you to fight seriously
@Key-hc6ul
7 ай бұрын
I feel like Hwoarang have two sides. You can play it absolutely braindead and start to get into confusing stances that will make you win without knowing anything you are doing. But you can also play it seriously and then it turns in one of the most difficult characters in the game, requiring a lot of execution and game sense.
@ELFUICHE
3 ай бұрын
That only gets you as far as red ranks. Hwo is not an easy character to master and playing “braindead” will only get you so far.
@Key-hc6ul
3 ай бұрын
@@ELFUICHE yes, totally agree
@keliicenturion
8 ай бұрын
They didnt consider if the characters can be blocked, dodged, countered or parried. Sure you can spam moves with everyone that they mentioned but how does it work with a sidstepper or with a dasher? Their rankings are maybe 60% accurate!
@asdowo111
8 ай бұрын
Ive been playing King since Tekken 5 and now I have a wife and kid. Got bored and decided to try a new character while watching this video. I realized learning a new character from scratch is waay harder. 😅
@taylorramerth2400
8 ай бұрын
“Asuka is the scrubbiest character in T7.” Me: *cough* Katarina. Spam 4 all day long.
@ire80east46
7 ай бұрын
Love the vid! Xiaoyu main here. Every topic like this - most of her slot is taken up by rants about playing against her 😂 - would definitely call her hard, especially to play optimal- the basic party stuff stops working pretty early
@hands-ongaming7180
7 ай бұрын
I was just thinking how I’ve never seen a top Aliza uses her chainsaws
@SalutexMO
8 ай бұрын
There's no way they put reina in average difficulty
@ngdome7583
8 ай бұрын
you can play her like a average difficulty character BUT when you want to play her to her full potential she is insanly hard to play. maybe even top 3 hardest, so I disagree with her placement, sure low ranks player can pick her up and do well in but when they get to rank where they chees playstyle does not work anymore they will get destroyed without lerning the advanced stuff
@mikaylalaymance6812
8 ай бұрын
Anakin himself made a guide on her and said she wasn’t hard to play
@xGusth
8 ай бұрын
@@mikaylalaymance6812 Of course it's not hard... FOR HIM but for 90% of the players without his experience and skill, well
@Wingnut202
8 ай бұрын
@@ngdome7583 Completely agree, especially if we go by their own reasoning for a character like Nina, a NOTORIOUS scrub killer who had probably the cheapest string in all of tekken 7, where you press 3 buttons and the only answer is to low parry or eat a million damage or a CH. She's extremely easy to knowledge check with, though definitely harder at the highest level, so the same should apply in my humble opinion to the STANCE MISHIMA, even if she has fake ff2 pressure where if you don't know how to defend against it it becomes oppressive.
@thisninja11
5 ай бұрын
As a Reina main, she’s really hard to play at advanced levels and I’m kinda exhausted of it. Feels like every character I play against has easy launcher against Reina and I’m kinda fed up. Think ima try a new character to take a break
@LoneTaurus82
8 ай бұрын
I like the fact Zafina isnt top tier this time. Having mained her for the first time in T7, I played her more because I was intrigued by her as a character and wanted to learn her than just to tier whore like many did.Its really showing right now who were the true Zafina mains and character loyalist for her right now. Almost always everyone says they hardly see her so hearing that as the initial comment on her was dissapointing. I'm having fun with her right now especially with her new Azazel attacks even though they come with health loss mechanic with recoverable health but once in heat she really shines using them. I like the challenge in using her in T8 inspite of her other nerfs received coming from T7.
@Rometopia
8 ай бұрын
Lili easy? Isn’t the popular opinion that she needs solid fundamentals or you get crushed?
@LiangHuBBB
8 ай бұрын
the game is so hard for new players because every character has so many moves, it takes so long to understand whats + whats safe or not, is it punishable, what range all the moves have etc. for a new player its rly hard. in mk1 or sf6 each character only has a few moves to remember
@ufcsuchti1493
7 ай бұрын
Law is defo not harder than xiaoyu wtf xD
@RIPjimbofisher
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I kinda feel like that’s some ho shit putting law next to kazuya like whhaaaaaaat
@mp32298
3 ай бұрын
Like he said it's subjective for example I think Eddy is actually one of the hardest characters to use despite easy inputs Reina is easier
@oOYourdadOo
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Yall both are awesome for this!
@Noum77
8 ай бұрын
When you put Lili as easier compared to Feng that's when I lost respect to this tier list. Feng is like the definition of easy whereas Lili has Dewglide canceling in everything she does since T7
@chimp510
2 ай бұрын
5 months later and this video is golden
@smilebombdotfm
8 ай бұрын
1:08:02 does he know
@smilebombdotfm
8 ай бұрын
No Sword Stance was buffed with high damage moves that heal yoshi and flash is one of those buffed moves that gets a combo out of NSS and in heat
@JBurky15
8 ай бұрын
I'm happy to say that I've been playing Yoshi since T1 and still don't fully understand him, so he is well deserving of the title of hardest character in the game lol.
@canberksahinable
8 ай бұрын
The big difference between Kazuya and other Mishimas is that Kazuyas ONLY launcher is his electric and block punishing with an electric IS SO DAMN HARD. Give it a try in practice mode you'll understand!!
@Teddious.
8 ай бұрын
Kazuya has twin pistons as launcher...
@canberksahinable
8 ай бұрын
@@Teddious. You are not going to block or whiff punish with TP you have to electric -15 mids
@Teddious.
8 ай бұрын
@canberksahinable man I get Twin Piston launched on block all the time lmao. It's also literally a 15 frame launcher
@thatsoulsguy3028
8 ай бұрын
Played maybe 30 hours of tekken 7 before this one so literally still a noob and I chose Yoshi knowing he’d be hard and I don’t regret my choice. I’ve made it to dominator with him and for a total noob im proud of what I’ve learned so far. Don’t let lists discourage you. Pick the character you think looks cool
@tacitozetticci9308
8 ай бұрын
I've started with Yoshi too 7 years ago before settling with Heihachi a couple of years later. Yoshi is GREAT, just go for whatever makes playing Tekken exciting. The thing I loved about Yoshi is the amount of new situations I would find myself into on a match to match basis, a mindblow after the other.
@XSkimmilkmanX
8 ай бұрын
Law, Dragunov, King in average. Shaheen easy, Hwo Harder
@Disc0nnectd
7 ай бұрын
"hes like a character you would play after you beat the game" me starting on yoshimitsu as my first character looooooooool
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