Next you’re going to be telling me Moses wasn’t speaking english either!
@wannabe_scholar82
Жыл бұрын
Wait, do people actually say he didn't speak English? What other language could he speak???
@thephotoandthestory
Жыл бұрын
Ok smart guy, answer me this: how did Charlton Heston play him then? Game, set, match.
@3VLN
Жыл бұрын
Lol you fools 😂
@zach2382
Жыл бұрын
He didn’t speak English? That is just crazy talk
@kernlove1986
Жыл бұрын
There's some rumour saying that the language wasn't created till well over a millenia later, utter rubbish.
@SixWildKids
Жыл бұрын
Not sure why you don't have 100K subscribers., you definitely have great content. Every seminary student who has had to sit through the average OT history class could definitely use your content... I could have been shipwrecked without Gleason Archer's OT history book.
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the comment. We are a relatively young channel, and that kind of exponential growth takes years. We've never been focused on trying to grow our channel fast. We've been more focused on growing a community. However, we are growing at a steady pace and are happy with how God has blessed the work.
@realDonaldMcElvy
Жыл бұрын
At 3:10 you referenced Exodus 9:31. Just a minor technicality, but it is actually Exodus 9:32. You're still very much correct on the Scripture.
@bonbon_nextlevel
Жыл бұрын
This is really a great video Dr. Falk, not only content wise, but also quality and presentation wise! Good job on this :)
@darkblade4340
Жыл бұрын
Myth #11: The exodus was 480 years before the construction of the temple.
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I could have included that. But that's more of an interpretive disagreement than a myth.
@darkblade4340
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible Btw, in 2:39 you say that Egypt’s agricultural cycle would’ve fully recovered the year after the plagues. I think that’s highly unlikely, as I think the locusts would’ve also gotten to a substantial portion of the seeds used to grow more crops.
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
@@darkblade4340 Actually, the Egyptians could have obtained seed from Upper Egypt which would have been directly out of the scope of the exodus plagues. So, Egypt has a number of redundant resources it could fall back upon in event of disaster.
@str.77
26 күн бұрын
@@darkblade4340Maybe not fully recovered but there is nothing to suggest that Egypt was utterly devastated either.
@dchymesjump
Жыл бұрын
Concerning Myth #4 it is Numbers 26 and not 25 as has been said in this and another video. Num 25 is the so-called Baal of Peor incident. While Num 26 is the second census that focused on the second generation.
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the keen eye.
@rodrigocostamoura
Жыл бұрын
Hi Dr Falk, just bought your book on the ark of the covenant, it will arrive in a few weeks. Wanted to ask: do you have any video on egyptian myths and how they relate to genesis 1?
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for buying my book. That will certainly help me get my next book published, so I greatly appreciate it. I haven't done any videos on Egyptian myths and how they relate to Genesis 1 yet, but that is certainly a great idea which we will add to our ideas file.
@mjmj4962
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible I would like this as well.
@isaakleillhikar8311
Жыл бұрын
Have you ever suggested Sam Shamoun to do a session on his chanel on the Pentatuch passages in light of Historical information ? He plugged your channel once and recomended your series before. Its how I got here.
@fushumang1716
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. Falk. I've asked about these in one of your vids and was glad you answered it here.
@miguelval
Жыл бұрын
Great compilation, thanks!
@coulie27
Жыл бұрын
Great payoff with #10, spot on. Logic is tough for some! Cheers 🦾
@MarcVL1234
2 ай бұрын
On Myth#9, about the lack of historical evidence: It's *possible* that even if all the papyrus records could have magically survived the ravages of time, that we still wouldn't see any of this in those records. Let's remember Akhenaten & Atenism. We know the Egyptians deliberately expunged him & his movement from their history (for example, he was excluded from lists of Pharoahs), & that wasn't more than a handful of pharoahs after when the Exodus might have happened according to the evidence as presented in this series. So we know the Egyptians were capable of taming or sanitizing their history, & we wouldn't have known about this instance without some fortunate archaeological finds. This type of historical erasure & revisionism isn't uncommon in civilizations across the world & across time.
@Jim-Mc
Жыл бұрын
Regarding numbers in ancient texts, including sizes of groups, ages of Sumerian kings and Biblical patriarchs: Is it possible our translation of numbers is simply wrong in some fundamental way? It would explain a lot and I've never heard a very convincing argument for why different groups would all arbitrarily exaggerate figures.
@superjam18
Жыл бұрын
That’s one of the questions i have. Did they actually exaggerate the numbers or are we not understanding their numerical system and population census’s as well as we thought we did? ( by we i mean people who actually study in he ancient cultures in those regions )
@Jim-Mc
Жыл бұрын
@@superjam18 Yep unless we find some convincing cultural reasons for exaggeration, this seems more likely.
@501Mobius
Жыл бұрын
There is also a problem with the math. Num. 3:43 states there are only 22,273 first born males of all ages. Since there is but one first born per couple. if there were 2 million Israelites then there would be 2,000,000/22,273 ~ 90 people per couple.
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
@@superjam18 It's really difficult to say for sure. We just don't have enough evidence one way or the other to know for certain.
@wesplybon9510
Жыл бұрын
I love this kind of stuff. Well thought out, backed with historical documents and 90% unusable in the church assembly 😂
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know. Just speaks again to the sorry state of the modern Church. 😖
@eirvingdiaz7185
Жыл бұрын
Exodus did not exist but the expulsion of the hyksos did exist.
@sean6088
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info dr falk! Really sorry about the bull crap with VST. Hopefully your not feeling down about it. I really have learned a lot from your material and honestly you made me wanna apply to grad school for an MA history program.
@lucillejerome5511
Жыл бұрын
What's VCOT?
@sean6088
Жыл бұрын
@@lucillejerome5511 nice catch lol :) I thought the name was vancouver college for some reason. its vancouver school of theology. My bad
@charliedontsurf334
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been meaning to ask about Psalm 136. Thanks for clearing that up. Also, do wind set downs make walls on each side of the path the Israelites took in accordance with Exodus 14:22?
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but these are not the walls you are probably thinking about. The type of walls mentioned in the text are probably temenos walls, which are often sloped at an angle. A wind set down could certainly push back the water in this way.
@joanhuffman2166
Жыл бұрын
3:49 I've read that beer was in other times a significant portion of the diet. The beer was not what you would call light beer. Still if Egypt had grain stored in silos, they would be fine.
@AnUnhappyBusiness
Жыл бұрын
Your channel always delivers stellar content
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! 😊
@euanthompson
Жыл бұрын
So what you are telling me is the real reason that Egypt had such a bad time after the exodus was that they all had to be sober for a year because they couldn't brew beer?
@user-zh5lj1ec4k
4 ай бұрын
lol. That’s why god allowed alcohol until Islam. Ancient people had water sanitation issues in many places so to ban alcohol would be a death sentence. In Islamic areas, which was def alcoholic prior to Islam, water was produced from well water so the necessity for alcohol wasn’t there because much less contamination then other abrahamic religion areas where contamination was higher and alcoholic brewing was less resource intensive and safer then simply boiling water. Remember, us Arabs were garbage people prior to Islam, even after we are still hot headed group, the less alcohol the better. I’d like to think God works strategically to what groups of people need what.
@johncarloflorentino
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video doctor falk! Great job!
@pablomarques3684
Жыл бұрын
Myth #12: 400 years of slavery
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Yup, indeed that is a myth.
@tgbotg
Жыл бұрын
Myth #11: The second census was in Numbers 25.
@dchymesjump
Жыл бұрын
No the 2nd census is Num 26. Num 25 is the Baal of Peor incident.
@dchymesjump
Жыл бұрын
I misunderstood your posting. Sorry.
@tgbotg
Жыл бұрын
@@dchymesjump Indeed. Dr. Falk has made this minor blunder a few times, and I figured it was because he was live. But this video is scripted, so I think it should be held to a higher standard. Again, it's a minor blunder, so it's not a huge deal, but I thought it worth mentioning.
@Xgy33
Жыл бұрын
Great content
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 😄
@TheNerdyBrew
Жыл бұрын
Doctor ,how come the academic community doesn't bring up The Ipuwer Papyrus as an Egyptian account of the exodus? Asking out of ignorance, I know of it's existence but I don't know when was it written is, I don't know if it's factual or just poetry. Would love to hear your thoughts. Myth 10 was an amazing breakdown
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
The problem with the Ipuwer Papyrus is that it is too old be an Egyptian account of the exodus. It probably dates to the late 12th dynasty, which is centuries before the exodus. It does relate events that are similar to the exodus plagues, but many of these events are the sorts of things that occur during extreme inundation cycles in Egypt. The text itself is poetry but is also a kind of political piece as well that was commonly created in the Middle Kingdom to prop up the current bureaucracy.
@TheNerdyBrew
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible Understood thank you.
@IamGrimalkin
Жыл бұрын
Could the Ipuwer Papyrus perhaps be based on a *prophecy* of the exodus rather than an account of the past? From some non-Hebrew prophet like Balaam perhaps? I haven't read it, I'm just speculating.
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
@@IamGrimalkin Oh definitely. I've made that speculation myself. In fact, I think that the Israelites get much of their conception of the prophet from Egyptian prophets.
@karlokulas5677
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible how exactly did scholars date the Ipuwer Papyrus?
@Veo87
Жыл бұрын
Myth #10 is what I've always heard confidently asserted by non-Christians and even Christians, but it's not something I've ever looked into myself. Where's a good starting point for looking into the reasons to think the Exodus did happen?
@SamuelMoerbe
Жыл бұрын
Well, I know Dr.Falk has a series about Evidence for the Exodus. That might be a good starting point, and then checking out the resources he uses. I agree though, sometimes it’s hard to know where to start.
@darkblade4340
Жыл бұрын
You can run through the three-part Exodus Rediscovered series; should take less than two hours
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/mWyAz3d3i6Kjq34
@JelteHarmanny
Жыл бұрын
This is again awesome. Thanks Dr. Falk! God bless
@lescribe2477
Жыл бұрын
Very good, thanks, I am New and I fully support your work.
@joanhuffman2166
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Exodus series. I'm still skeptical about the late date. Throwing out the 480 years before the building of the temple doesn't seem right, but I see why the names of the treasure cities would seem to point to the late date. I will watch for more archeology.
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
I kind of figured you were, but that's cool.
@Gil3ification
Жыл бұрын
Dr. Falk, with the red sea, if it was just the wind moving the water back, how do you interpret Exodus 14:21 where they walk on dry land?
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
The "dry land" only means that the water was driven completely back and they had a solid surface upon which the Israelites could walk, not that the land was so dry as being parched and the sand was like fine powder.
@Dissandou
Жыл бұрын
(17:36) as well as Joshua 24:14 there is Ezekiel 20:7-8
@missionisagape
Жыл бұрын
deserves 100k views
@widdershins7628
Жыл бұрын
Super video, doc. Thank you.
@thomasecker9405
Жыл бұрын
Dr. Falk, as a young brother in Christ myself, while I do appreciate your content immensely, this one, in my opinion, has a couple of textual flaws. Literally two. The first one is the assessment concerning the level of devastation of the plagues. You are right to point out that the emmer wheat and spelt had been spared from the plague of hail as fire (as Exodus records that they hadn't sprouted), but to conclude that the food supply hadn't been destroyed is a bit of a misdirect, as we read in the following chapter that the emmer wheat, spelt, and trees had been devoured by the plague of locusts. I do give credit like The Prince of Egypt movie, in that it is likely that the Egyptians may have been harvesting the plants before the locusts came and devoured the rest. Still, I thought I'd help you out by pointing out this little inadvertent misdirection. The second flaw is concerning your point on the depth of the Sea of Reeds. While I do agree that the Bible doesn't necessarily support something incredibly deep, it also doesn't necessarily say that the area where it occurred was as shallow as forty to fifty feet deep (if one could call fifty feet shallow in a very loose fashion), either. There is also the issue of some die-hard empiricists that could glean on your statement about the wind and the actual Sea of Reeds phenomenon, and state that the parting of the Sea of Reeds was a completely natural phenomenon, as opposed to an act of the Lord Almighty. Everything else was quite well laid out, I will admit. I actually appreciate you covering that Ramases II actually had far more sinister intentions by sending the chariots. That's something in the Exodus text that I found a little odd until you explained it.
@lostinvictory8526
Жыл бұрын
Good work, thank you.
@gabrielacosta2267
Жыл бұрын
Would like to hear your opinions on kip Davis and recent attack from atheologica.
@1oomkje
Жыл бұрын
When do you think that Genesis 1 was written? Was it a rip off of the enuma elish? Would Israel have been exposed to the enuma elish prior to writing Genesis 1?
@zach2382
3 ай бұрын
No, just because two things seem a little bit similar doesn’t mean they are related in anyway
@waynemccuen8213
Жыл бұрын
Dr. Falk, I really appreciate you providing these materials backgrounding the Bible accounts in a more accurate way than we get in todays, uhhhhh, average church. Your time is very valuable and it provides much info for deeper witnessing than "if you don't accept Jesus you are going to hell". I love learning new (to me) bible content. Then looking for opportunity to pass it along. Thanks for you time and efforts that enable me, and others I'm sure, to do that.
@bradb2680
Жыл бұрын
Are there any resources about the Israelite clothing especially one including lots of pictures?
@Kakaragi
2 ай бұрын
A 31 minute ad for a 20 minute video
@user-ys3vs3wx4v
Жыл бұрын
Another awesome video! Thanks Dr. Falk! I agree with the conclusion that the census figures in Numbers don't make sense if we take a "first impression" interpretation. I've always struggled with the proposed solution of elleph being mistranslated. If elleph wasn't supposed to mean 'thousand' then why do the 'carry over' of hundreds into the thousands add up mathematically? We'd expect the elleph figures to be provided twice when the 603,550 summary of all 12 tribes numbers are added up. (e.g., 598 elleph (not thousand) 5 elleph (thousand) and 550.) The typical suggestion I see is that a "later scribe" added the 2 ellephs together, thinking he was "fixing" the figures. If this is so, we're dealing with a textual corruption rather than a misinterpretation. I have also heard some other suggestions that involve elleph still being thousand. Examples: Maybe the figures aren't supposed to be base 10? Maybe there is a known idiom where multiplication by 10 would have been understood by the audience as indicating "greatness"? Maybe they were including DEAD ancestors in their census? Not being a scholar, I'm curious as to how a more informed exegete would evaluate all the different possibilities.
@freonsp
Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel, love it, the thumbnails are bad though
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
I'm terrible at self-promotion and video production, which is why the thumbnails suck. This is why we try to focus upon providing content that brings value instead. We are trying to get better about the presentation of our materials, but it's taking us time to get there.
@blackdog75
Жыл бұрын
day to day happenings would have been written on papyrus and not much has survived. i get that. but what about the first born son of a pharaoh dying? wouldn’t there be some record of that? i admit, i am ignorant as to the topic so this may have an obvious answer
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
The deaths of the first born would have centred around the capital city of Piramesses, but most of the tombs there (which date to mid-19th dynasty and onward) that would have given us clues to the deaths of the firstborn were destroyed by agricultural levelling. We do know that there were several key deaths during the year that Pharaoh's first born son died, e.g., one of the viziers also died around the same time. Unfortunately, even the tomb of the sons of Ramesses II (KV5) lacks inscriptions that could give us more information. So, it's just one of those situations where we have to piece things together from the data we have.
@blackdog75
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible that makes perfect sense. thank you for taking the time to respond to my question
@pablomarques3684
Жыл бұрын
Good choice of the number 10 lol
@christianbensel
Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. Bit what anout thr myths of wheels in the Red Sea and Mount Sinai being in Saudi Arabia?
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
That's more of an archaeological myth. But I wanted to keep the video relatively short. I could always do an "another 10 myths" video.
@glennargento4849
Жыл бұрын
When the Hebrews were slaves in Egypt, how much knowledge about their origins (ie knowledge about the one God, the flood, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob) did they retain? Had they largely forgot about their past during those 400 years and needed Moses to remind them?
@ramadadiver59
Жыл бұрын
Hey Dr Falk.why is it skeptics reading Deutoronamy 32 . 8- 9 as refering too 2 deities ( El and yhwh ) when deutoronamy 10 16 - 17 says yhwh is the God of god's and Lord ( adonai ) of lords ? It's in the same book
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Because they are using the Documentary Hypothesis to claim that one section was written long after the other.
@ramadadiver59
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible the D.H .is sounding way too convenient
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
@@ramadadiver59 Yup, sure is.
@ramadadiver59
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible I hope you are doing Okey also... I have prayed for you and your struggles
@ramadadiver7810
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible check out myth visions interview with Bart Erhman . Bart at least appears to not agree with Derreck Bennet's view the exaltation of Jesus . He as far as I can't tell agrees with tradition . That Jesus wondered the earth before ascension
@SaintOtter
Жыл бұрын
Sorry but I didn't get how deep the water was according to you. 50 feet can't ever be the number, so I guess something went wrong in the auto subtitles...
@finjor8777
Жыл бұрын
When the next live session is? I wanna make a question. But it would be cool if you could answer it now. Josh bowen said, word ”birch” in flood accounts is different compared to rest of the hebrew bible. This loan word is from other flood texts. Indicating hebrew flood story is copy. Your thoughts?
@bc4yt
Жыл бұрын
Friday nights :)
@karlokulas5677
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Great video as always. I have a question I hope you can answer. Do we have any evidence for the deaths of the Egyptian firstborns? How long would it take for Egypt to recover?
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Somewhat. The death to the firstborn and the death of the vizier occurred in the same year. However, the cemeteries that we would have needed to confirm this for certain were destroyed by agricultural levelling. This is unfortunate, but it is the reality we have to deal with sometimes in archaeology.
@karlokulas5677
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible thanks for the answer, I recently found a video with interesting arguments against the theory of a 13. century BC exodus, where can I send you the link? KZitem will probably remove it.
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
@@karlokulas5677 Just supply the name of the channel and the title of the video. That should be sufficient for me to find it. I just hope it's not another video by David Rohl or Douglas Petrovich. 😂
@karlokulas5677
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible A Christian Guy - The Main Reason Why I Disagree with a 19th dinasty Exodus
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
@@karlokulas5677 Okay, I will check it out.
@jaskitstepkit7153
Жыл бұрын
Erham is not an old testament scholar so he should not be qualified to speak. Why does THEY don't make video responds calling him out. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Hypocrisy, professional hedge protection, and woke culture. Oh wait, I see now that was a rhetorical question. Nevermind. 😂
@jaskitstepkit7153
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible 🤣🤣🤣
@adamnascent7231
Жыл бұрын
Dr Falk is an old testament scholar?
@hazenbriggs5431
Жыл бұрын
I'm confused. You say pharaoh intended to kill the Israelites because he didn't send infantry. Then you say the infantry didn't drown because they were on foot and they had not caught up with the chariots. Which was it?
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
He didn't *immediately* send them, and the chariots raced far ahead of whatever infantry was sent. Does that clarify matters?
@Thehaystack7999
Жыл бұрын
Wait, you know who the daughter of Pharaoh is historically?
@FamilyHistoriandude
8 ай бұрын
No
@bc4yt
Жыл бұрын
#12 and #13 - there should be loads of evidence of the wandering, and the findings such as lack of destruction layers in Canaan prove it never happened.
@lilchristuten7568
Жыл бұрын
And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, that he shall follow after them; and I will be honoured upon Pharaoh, and upon all his host; that the Egyptians may know that I am the LORD. And they did so. And it was told the king of Egypt that the people fled: and the heart of Pharaoh and of his servants was turned against the people, and they said, Why have we done this, that we have let Israel go from serving us? and he took six hundred chosen chariots, and all the chariots of Egypt, and captains over every one of them. And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and he pursued after the children of Israel: and the children of Israel went out with an high hand. But the Egyptians pursued after them, all the horses and chariots of Pharaoh, and his horsemen, and his army, and overtook them encamping by the sea, beside Pi-hahiroth, before Baal-zephon. And when Pharaoh drew nigh, the children of Israel lifted up their eyes, and, behold, the Egyptians marched after them; and they were sore afraid: and the children of Israel cried out unto the LORD. Exodus 14:4-5, 7-10 KJV And the Egyptians pursued, and went in after them to the midst of the sea, even all Pharaoh's horses, his chariots, and his horsemen. And it came to pass, that in the morning watch the LORD looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians, and took off their chariot wheels, that they drave them heavily: so that the Egyptians said, Let us flee from the face of Israel; for the LORD fighteth for them against the Egyptians. And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand over the sea, that the waters may come again upon the Egyptians, upon their chariots, and upon their horsemen. And Moses stretched forth his hand over the sea, and the sea returned to his strength when the morning appeared; and the Egyptians fled against it; and the LORD overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea. And the waters returned, and covered the chariots, and the horsemen, and all the host of Pharaoh that came into the sea after them; there remained not so much as one of them. Exodus 14:23-28 KJV How can you extrapolate that Pharaoh didn't die when he readied his own chariot and went after the Israelites, all the horses and chariots and the horsemen who went after the Israelites died in the sea, and Pharaoh would have most likely would have been leading the army?
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Because in every possible scenerio for the exodus, the pharaoh lives. We don't know why he didn't lead the charge into the sea of reeds. We just know he didn't. Maybe he decided the chariots ahead of him while he rested at Tjaru. Maybe his chariot broke down, mid charge. We don't know why and the Bible doesn't tell us. However, we have the mummies and there's no evidence of any of them drowning at all.
@bc4yt
Жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible not to mention that if he drowned, there probably would be no mummy at all?
@elmajraz6019
Жыл бұрын
Hi. Inspired Philosophy posted a video (I just watched it 😬) on your debate. Great debate by the way. However, I have a question regarding Samuel's genealogy. Actually, I believe the genealogy of Samuel in Chronicles is not a spliced genealogy. He was not an Ephramite, but a Levite residing among the Ephramite. A similar case can be found in Judges 17:7. Now there was *a young man from Bethlehem in Judah, of the family of Judah; he was a Levite,* and was staying there. And Micah said to him, “Where do you come from?” So he said to him, *“I am a Levite from Bethlehem in Judah,* and I am on my way to find a place to stay.” Judges 17:7, 9 NKJV Now there was a certain man of Ramathaim Zophim, *of the mountains of Ephraim,* and his name was Elkanah the son of Jeroham, the son of Elihu, the son of Tohu, the son of Zuph, *an Ephraimite.* I Samuel 1:1 NKJV Any thoughts?
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Hi El Majraz Yes, I have some thoughts. There is no serious question that Samuel was anything other than an Ephriamite. 1 Samual 1:1 makes it explicit that Samuel's ancestors were Ephriamites from the tribal region of Ephraim. If this were not the case, then you'd have a needless redundancy. The exegetical principle of non-redundancy comes into play here where the duplication of word is being used in two different ways to compensate for the broad semantic range of meaning. This method to restrict semantic range is common in Biblical Hebrew. Because the first designation of "Ephriamite" in the passage refers to Samuel geographic origins, the second usage in context to a long line of ancestors must be Samuel's tribal designation. There's really no way out of this, unless you want to appeal to an absence of evidence fallacy. Now, there's a problem with this reading of Judges 17:7. The verse is not saying that this young man belongs to two tribes (the tribe of Levi and the tribe of Judah), but instead is saying that this young is of the tribe of Levi and the ***clan*** of Judah. The Hebrew here is very clear. Unfortunately, English translations translate the word for "clan" as "family." This has led some to believe this young man had two tribal affiliations when he did not. So, what is happening here is a category error, or in other words the confusion of two different categories. In this case there is a confusion between tribes and clans. Israel was made up of 12 tribes, but each tribe was composed of many clans. It's a bit like saying "a doberman is a mammal, a cat is mammal; therefore, cats are dogs." Judges 17:7 is clearly saying that this young man is of the tribe of Levi and the ***CLAN*** of Judah (a clan within the tribe of Levi) and he lived in Bethlehem within the tribal territory of Judah. When it comes down to it, there is no reason to believe that Samuel was a Levite other than to insist that 1 Chronicles 6 genealogy wasn't spliced to prop up the early exodus date. To understand more about the difference between tribes and clans, I recommend you watch my video. kzitem.info/news/bejne/s6OAyat3rmSqeYo Anyway, I hope that helps. Blessings, David.
@elmajraz6019
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@@ancientegyptandthebible not to prop up the early exodus date. I'm now more than convinced by your other arguments that Ramesses II is the Pharaoh of the Exodus, thanks to the debate. However, I do still believe that Samuel's genealogy is not spliced. Because as far as I know, Levites don't have a specific place to live, unlike the other tribes of Israel. They were scattered throughout the 12 tribes. The one in Judges 17:7 is a Levite living among the Judahites (how I understand it), while Samuel/Shemuel or Elkanah or even their ancestor Zuph/Zophai was living among the Ephramites (some translation say Ephrathites). And I'm pretty sure that the 21 years (let's say) × 15 ancestors (from Ebiasaph I think?) can still fit in between the 300 years between Shoshenq (Solomon) to Ramesses (Moses), right? Okay, gonna watch the video you recommend now.
@ancientegyptandthebible
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@@elmajraz6019 > However, I do still believe that Samuel's genealogy is not spliced. Because as far as I know, Levites don't have a specific place to live, unlike the other tribes of Israel. They were scattered throughout the 12 tribes. The one in Judges 17:7 is a Levite living among the Judahites (how I understand it), while Samuel/Shemuel or Elkanah or even their ancestor Zuph/Zophai was living among the Ephramites (some translation say Ephrathites). Yes, the Levites did not have a tribal homeland, but were given cities where they could reside. And indeed they were scattered throughout Israel, although they were concentrated in the Levitical cities. If any of Samuel's ancestors had lived in one of those Levitical cities, you might have something. There is no evidence that Zuph or any of the Samuel's ancestors were Levites. And we would expect that the writer of 1 Samuel would give us some indication that he was a Levite, because that would give Samuel some basis that he has standing to serve in the Tabernacle. But instead the writer of 1 Samuel does the opposite, which is that God chose Samuel from birth and that was an Ephriamite--oh, the scandal of God, doing something that us mere humans would not expect--which I really think is the point of the writer being so clear about Samuel's ancestry. All the evidence points to him being an Ephraimite. I don't think there's much more to say about that. Overall I don't think it matters much, and you free to believe what you want about this genealogy. 😊 > And I'm pretty sure that the 21 years (let's say) × 15 ancestors (from Ebiasaph I think?) can still fit in between the 300 years between Shoshenq (Solomon) to Ramesses (Moses), right? Oh yes, indeed. That could fit the late exodus date time frames. However, I would never use this as evidence, since the genealogy has the difficulties already described.
@elmajraz6019
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@@ancientegyptandthebible "There is no evidence that Zuph or any of Samuel's ancestors were Levites." Isn't 1 Chronicles enough as an evidence that Samuel is a Levite? I mean, if the whole book is inspired by the Holy Spirit, why can't we combine both narration by interpreting this way? Just like Judges 17:7. I mean, do you really think that the children of Samuel, supposedly inspired by the Holy Spirit, made up their genealogy back to Korah, just to put their position in the Temple? I mean, it technically could, without a doubt, but I wouldn't want to think like that. We're dealing with the Words of God, not the words of human beings (uninspired). Perhaps, in the Book of Samuel, the focus is just a bit of back story, the flow from Eli to Elkanah to Samuel to Saul to David. So the ancestry is not the main focus here. But with regards to Chronicles, I mean, do I really need to say?
@IamGrimalkin
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Absence of evidence can certainly be evidence of absence; but I don't think it's very GOOD evidence in this case. From a Baysean perspective, you can use Bayes formula just as well for P(nH|nE) (that the hypothesis is false given the absence of evidence) as for P(H|E) (that the hypothesis is true given the presence of evidence). When you do this, P(E|nH) (the p-value) changes to P(nE|H) (the probability of the absence of evidence given the hypothesis is true). When P(nE|H) is close to one, though; it ceases making much of a difference. And as you say, it probably is close to one because you wouldn't expect it in the Egyptian records due to the loss of the day scrolls. So yeah, the lack of Egyptian Exodus records is extremely weak evidence for anything at all. I'll note I wouldn't actually do any Baysean calculations about this, I'm just referencing Bayes' theorem to illustrate the logic.
@thephotoandthestory
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Michael Shermer is infuriating. Not because he doesn't believe but because he has a smug dismissal of things outside of his expertise. He is a professional debunker who believes his enthusiasm for science translates into a areas. I have seen him handwave away critiques of materialism or evidence of the paranormal. It's annoying and from such an interesting fellow.
@maddam50
Жыл бұрын
first like
@thoughtsuponatime847
Жыл бұрын
I thought the exodus was a fictional story.
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
Many people do these days. And many people also believe the world is flat and that the moon landing was a hoax. This is why we go on evidence, not what people believe. 😊
@adamnascent7231
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@@ancientegyptandthebible Although scientific consensus agrees that the evidence affirms the earth is not flat, and scholarly consensus is that there was no Exodus as described in the Bible, so these are a bit different.
@lohikaarmeherra-1753
Жыл бұрын
Holy Spirit exaggerated Israelite population numbers?
@ancientegyptandthebible
Жыл бұрын
It's possible. It could also be that we in the 21st century are misreading/misinterpreting them as well. It's hard to say.
@lohikaarmeherra-1753
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@@ancientegyptandthebible was the Holy spirit not supposed to explain the scriptures to the faithful? He/she/it slacking off?
@ancientegyptandthebible
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@@lohikaarmeherra-1753 The doctrine of the illumination of the Holy Spirit presupposes that such explanation takes place over centuries, if not millennia. So it should not surprise us that the illumination of the Holy Spirit continues to the present. However, now our ability to explain the scriptures includes a vast array of tools available not accessible to those in the past. Not the least of these tools is literary analysis and intertextuality.
@lohikaarmeherra-1753
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@@ancientegyptandthebible where does this presupposition originate? I know scores of faithful who do not share that assumption.
@ancientegyptandthebible
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@@lohikaarmeherra-1753 If you mean the presupposition that the Holy Spirit illuminates the text, that goes back to the Book of Acts. And I will admit that not all share in that belief. But there are also church historians that see this as a continuity of that illumination through the controversies of the Church. So just because there are some faithful that don't share that assumption, does not mean that there are not others who do share in that assumption.
@wkrapek
Жыл бұрын
Bart Ehrman is great. But… yeah… I’m starting to see the cracks.
@wannabe_scholar82
Жыл бұрын
I applaud Bart for his new testament work on Jesus, really its great. But when he gets to the old testament although he gets general things right (as he should as he's a biblical scholar so he should have some overview of the OT) I tend to back away from him as it's not his area of expertise.
@stephengray1344
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I'm told his text criticism is world class, but his more general New Testament work seems to be just a standard presentation of what the sceptical end of scholarship think. And I see far too many foundational problems with their views to consider any of it to be great.
@jaskitstepkit7153
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Erham has even contradicted himself. I don't think you should trust much of what he says in popular media at least. His scholarly work is not bad however
@bc4yt
Жыл бұрын
The problem with Erhman is his terrible theology. He will, for instance, argue that two NT letters couldn't possibly be from the same person, because he *thinks* they contradict each other. A fuller understanding of Christian doctrine however would reveal that there is no discrepancy, and therefore no reason to doubt the authorship.
@wkrapek
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@@bc4yt I think all the modern scholars give up too easy. Like the Census of [Publius Sulpicius] Quirinus. Luke tells us he presided over more than one. Yet everyone insists he was confused about who was Governor of Syria and when. But when I checked out who apparently WAS the Governor of Syria when Jesus was born, it was Publius Quinctilius Varus. Look these two men up. They’re not just vague names on a list of Syrian Governors. They were both well known outside of those positions. In the case of Varus: INFAMOUS. In Jerusalem, definitely. But even worse in his later career in Germany. These two men could not have been more well known - and more different. I think it’s ridiculous that Luke confused one for the other.
@Skeptical_Monistic_Idealist
Жыл бұрын
Myths 1-10: The Exodus was a historical event.
@zach2382
3 ай бұрын
There’s no reason to believe it’s not other than well. It’s in the Bible therefore it must be fake. Actually, I meant people who don’t believe in God believe the exodus happened and it frankly ridiculous that people don’t believe in it because there’s no good reason to not
@mrbaldhead6110
8 ай бұрын
Great video, Dr. Falk. Did the Hebrews speak an early form of Canaanite in their time in Egypt, or did they just speak Egyptian?
@Gaulcel
3 ай бұрын
5:20 so the woman who adopted Moses was Tanedjemet?
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 ай бұрын
It's impossible to say. We don't have a complete record of the daughters of either Ramesses I or Seti I.
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