Tentacle Sync added the ability to monitor from the app!
@alesko5
2 жыл бұрын
That's great! I didn't realize this functionality was added.
@TheRoseLiesDead
2 жыл бұрын
Would love a demo on how that works and what the latency is!
@curtisjudd
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoseLiesDead Me too!
@juliansimmons7700
2 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd It's neat feature. I'm getting a 0.465 second delay from the actual real-time sound and that from the phone. This is not ideal, but for monitoring potential problems with mic placements etc it's fine. There's even an 'earpiece' setting, where by you can raise the phone to your ear, and it patches the audio through to there, handy if you don't have your wireless earbuds or headphones to hand (which is called the 'loudspeaker' setting, as if headphones are not connected it's patched through to the phone speaker).
@curtisjudd
2 жыл бұрын
@@juliansimmons7700 Thanks for sharing the results! I suspected that there would be a lot of latency and that's why most similar apps don't support this. That latency can be quite distracting if you're close enough to the talent to hear them in real live and the monitor at the same time. But I agree, helpful for at least knowing whether there's a clothing rustle or other issue. 👍
@sabrirashid5175
3 жыл бұрын
this guy is amazing with reviewing audio stuff
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sabri.
@teacherofteachers1239
3 жыл бұрын
I have never used timecode before, but thanks to what I learned from these nice videos by Curtis I have just received this week one of the Tentacle recorders and two of their sync devices. I just completed my first test today running their sync devices into two Fuji cameras while recording also with their handy little lavalier recorder described in this video. Also, at the same time that I used a Tentacle Sync device in the X-T3, I could use a Deity V-Mic D3 Pro and override the Tentacle Sync's built-in mic; I did this with Tentacle's little Y-adapter cable. Everything synced up nicely and I was able to open the package in Premiere without issue. The quality of the audio is certainly fine for someone like me, but the main event for me was learning timecode and the Tentacle software, and I was very pleased not to lose the ability to plug a decent mic into the camera. This was a huge step - thanks so much for the lessons. - Dave
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, that’s great to hear!
@BreezeA
3 жыл бұрын
This is great for budget oriented youtubers/filmmakers. They can now BOOM their Video Mic Pro Plus mics straight into this recorder, and not worry about wireless transmission issues.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@OnDirt
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd would this work with a phantom-powered XLR microphone if I had the appropriate adapter cable?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
@@OnDirt No, if the microphone needs phantom power, this will not work. You'd need a separate power injector but those are usually pretty big and heavy, sort of defeating the purpose.
@carlredmond3642
3 жыл бұрын
The Lectrosonics single channel recorder does not have a high quality time code clock, and when synced with a Tentacle Sync can drift ...but it is expensive. The new stereo Lectrosonics recorder from the specs looks like it has a high accuracy clock, so presumably no drift issues...but is very expensive. This new product from Tentacle based on your evaluation is a much more attractive product than the Lectrosonics for a reasonable price assuming it has the Tentacle Sync high accuracy time clock technology, especially considering the audio recording level features you describe. Thanks for posting your detailed review.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
👍 the Lectrosonics is for the rough and tumble production sound world where toughness is top priority.
@Mintyseden
3 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are absolutely the best. You answer all the questions I have. KZitem owes you!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Denis!
@sky.london
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great review. First to compare the zoom f2 and these wins 🤪. Very excited for these tho, been waiting a year from when they were announced.
@DigitalNinja3
3 жыл бұрын
Im looking at those too, The Zoom F2s...
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sky London.
@remektekmedia6641
3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the comparison.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Gerald Undone evidently won. 😀 But we sometimes have different perspectives so I hope you'll still find my late review helpful. He is more of a camera guy and I'm more of an audio guy, after all. 😉
@sky.london
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd definitely looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Thank you
@peter.klesken
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such amazing content. You are my favourite KZitem creator. Excellent information in a detailed and pleasant format.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter!
@chungdha
3 жыл бұрын
Think this be nice combined with additional wireless system to the audio out of it just to monitor the sound for any issues. For example a wireless go on the headphone out of the Track E and then just use that wireless for just monitoring.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
On the non-US version that should work. Hopefully the Wireless GO doesn't impose any EMF or RF interference on the Track E.
@petehikers6003
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd I already sold my Wireless GO again. It had a lot of interference when the transmitter was too close to the cable of my external lav mic.
@DuncanDimanche-sreview
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd I did just that hahah kzitem.info/news/bejne/mKGiqp9vb2uYf6A
@DuncanDimanche-sreview
3 жыл бұрын
It works great but like Curtis said the US version does not have the audio output while recording due to a stupid patent
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanDimanche-sreview Courtesy of Zaxcom. Too bad, they make otherwise interesting products.
@remektekmedia6641
Жыл бұрын
With multi mic wireless systems you also run into managing all the receivers - both for physical space in your bag and cables and batteries! With the Track E, all that goes away. :)
@curtisjudd
Жыл бұрын
Good point.
@omgMBP
3 жыл бұрын
Not a moment too soon! Great review. And thanks for the addition of highly paid actors into your demo workflow! Really really useful, actually.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matthew! 😂 They actually are paid. Not sure about highly, but as much as the business can afford.
@kazisaud
3 жыл бұрын
@Curtis is the best product reviewer on the light & sound in the world. I’ve been waiting for this product release for almost a year now
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Saud!
@henrygethe1576
3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your Zoom F2 review!!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@gomezcreativemedia
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Mr. Judd, for Your fantastic Production Sound tutorials! Currently, I own a pair of Tentacle Timecode boxes. Therefore, I am seriously considering purchasing these Tentacle recording boxes as well. However, I already own a set of Sennheiser G4 wireless packs, yet as you mentioned in the video, working as a "ONE MAN BAND" can be exhausting, and usually, sometimes, technically, always gets sacrificed.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck.
@thomastthai
Жыл бұрын
The international version (non-US) version allows for live monitoring via the headphone jack. If you have a family or friend from a country with a Tentacle dealer outside of the USA, have them order for you and ship to their address. Then they ship the device to your USA address. Some dealers from outside the USA will also ship to your USA address. This is due to the Zaxcom patent in the USA.
@curtisjudd
Жыл бұрын
I cannot endorse this but I hear what you’re saying.
@jamessmithe
3 жыл бұрын
The Zoom F2 at $149.- or the F2-BT at $199.- will be very interesting competitors. No time code but less than half the price for the former for 32 bit float and a normal battery.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Will be interesting to compare when my F2BT arrives.
@Halfmoonbaystudios
Жыл бұрын
Best 1k I’ve ever spent (besides my slate)
@curtisjudd
Жыл бұрын
👍
@dab7963
Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos. I am heading to Mexico soon and I am taking a Nikon Z6 and a Mixpre3 and have 2 tentacle sync E units. I am using Rode II wireless mics. The Rode receiver is plugged into the Mic 1 port on the Mixpre3. The tentacle sync are synced with each other using the app on my phone. I also have an atomos Ninja V on top of my camera. The first tentacle sync E is plugged into the aux 1 output on the Mixpre3. The second tentacle sync E is plugged into the Mic port on the Nikon Z6 The HDMI port is conected from the Z6 to the Atomos Ninja V. After I put the Audio and video into Resolve Media I then tell the video to sync to the Audio and then I place the files on the time line and tell resolve to sync by time code. This workflow works. I tried to plug the second tecnacle sync E into the Atomos mic connection and followed the same process and it's not synced it's off. Could it be because of a delay between the Camera HDMI and the Atomos? Also played with making the Mixpre3 the master but still delays. Just trying to figure out why using the MixPre3 as the master or feeding timecode into the Atomos are not synced ?
@curtisjudd
Жыл бұрын
Yes, you got it - it is due to the latency in the HDMI feed from the camera to the ATOMOS recorder.
@TheLordcasio
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, audio dork chiming in again. I would recommend purchasing lavaliere mics that terminate to the MicroDot connector, then buying a MicroDot-to-xxx adapter. "Why?" well, if you buy an expensive lav and want to resale it, you are not bound to a specific brand of wireless. I own 8 DPA 6060's...they are around $600 each ($750 w/ the Lectro MicroDot-to-TA5 adapter). If I ever want to sell them, I have a massive latitude to who I can sell to.
@curtisjudd
2 жыл бұрын
👍
@insanejughead
3 жыл бұрын
Show us how to do the moleskin or gaffer-tape hacks when it comes to lav noise isolation! Also, I am blown away you let the ladies go freestyle instead of reading from my man Arthur Doyle... (Curtis, you must be going rogue or continuing the No-Effort November... Oh, and I hope your holidays were great!)
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Ok, will do. Thanks!
@patrickchase5614
3 жыл бұрын
I just got a pair of these and agree with everything in your review. I would add that the included lav looks (and performs) suspiciously like a Sennheiser ME2. I guess that would be consistent with the "made with love in Germany" marketing. EDIT: The similarity is to the original ME2, not to the ME2-II that you showed with the Sennheiser wireless system late in the video. I would guess that Sennheiser still has the plastic case for the original, and maybe they made a "custom" part for Tentacle with that?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick. No idea on the origin of the included mic, but it seems a bit less bright vs the original ME2 to my ears? On the other hand, it has been a few years since I used an original ME2.
@Mintyseden
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting sooo long for this review!!!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
👍🎙
@directoradamg
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta agree with others here. I am super excited to see a comparison between this and the Zoom F2/F2-BT. Bonus points if you can get the blue ultrasync to test with the F2-BT!
@DigitalNinja3
3 жыл бұрын
Im on that same trajectory.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
F2BT is on order. That Ultrasync Blue is sort of a very niche thing - it only works with mobile device cameras. It doesn't really fit my workflow but probably does for those who regularly shoot with mobile phones.
@directoradamg
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd as i understand it, it transmits to the sync attachment of the atomos ninja V as well. So there is growing use case for it. But beyond that, it transmits a radio frequency as well, that you can pair with other ultrasync devices to feed timecode. This would be great, but then once you get all of that, you have extra stuff to worry about and you've spent just as much as you would have had you done twp track e's and a sync e! If that makes sense. It's silly. And I'm not sure why zoom likes the ultrasync blue. If you sync your f2-bt to your f6, and then use your f6 to tc-out into your camera (provided your cam has that function), then it makes sense. But it feels like extra steps you shouldn't have to go through for functionality they could have integrated in easier.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
@@directoradamg Agreed - seems convoluted.
@andreasbuder4417
3 жыл бұрын
What I do for audio monitoring: I attach a small BT transmitter to the Audio out and connect Bluetooth headphones to the receiver. The audio quality is ok, it has a lag of about one second, but it does the job of controlling problems like dead battery, scratching clothes, radio interference etc. The rest does the recorder (currently a Zoom H1 in my case).
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
👍
@spielundzeug
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Curtis, I’ll be getting this one or the Zoom F2 in the Future. I’ve bought the F1 and it might be the worst piece of equipment I’ve ever had. The F2 looks like it fixes most of the handling issues but I’ll be waiting for your review to buy anything in this space. So I’m hoping there will be an F2 video in the near future.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Spiel und Zeug. I have an F2BT on pre-order and plan to make a video covering it after it arrives. Lead times have been pretty long lately so I'm guessing it will not ship until January or February.
@Yaban-racing
3 жыл бұрын
Change the lavalier included with the F1. The noise floor of the f1 recorder is lower than the track e visibly. With a good lavalier the f1 seems better to me.
@majeanlee
3 жыл бұрын
yet another great review. hopefully zoom f2 has lower self-noise. thanks Chris!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Majean. I'd be surprised if it does.
@REDDpenMEDIA
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your accurate reviews!
@curtisjudd
Жыл бұрын
👍🙏
@RVKevin
3 жыл бұрын
Curtis, Being a simple youtube creator, can i drop the 32bit recording from the recorder directly into Davinci Resolve and edit like other audio ? Or does the recording need reprocessing in some way for me to sync up with my camera video and audio ?
@thatcherfreeman
3 жыл бұрын
From what I recall, Resolve doesn't support 32-bit float audio files yet.
@TheToneWork
3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Resolve has supported 32bit floating files now for about 6 months. Since version 16.2.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the late version 16 and 17 beta all support 32-bit float wav files.
@RVKevin
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd thank you Curtis 😎🙋♂️
@boutthere3374
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid and I just ordered a track e and a set of sync e's. Cheers.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and I hope they work well for you!
@Smartphonematters
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this and all of your great videos. As other's have also said, I love your little summary section in the beginning of your videos. I also think it's also something that could be potentially improved to really shine.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! What did you have in mind for improving the summary?
@JohnRicard
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd The summary is perfect. The last thing it needs is graphics, music, introductions, animations or any other sort of popular "improvements".
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRicard Thanks John.
@MrAndyStenz
2 жыл бұрын
An updated firmware just released allows you to monitor via Bluetooth now (while recording!)
@curtisjudd
2 жыл бұрын
👍
@timothyawe5103
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review.
@Pikmeir
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! For my uses, if this only didn't use an internal battery it would be an upgrade from my DR-10Ls. So far I've yet to find anything better.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Keep making great sound with that DR-10L!
@Pikmeir
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Just want to say thank you so much for all of your videos over these years. I went from not knowing how to use a shotgun microphone or why I even needed a separate recorder, to last month hitting 300k subscribers on my main channel. I still have so much to learn from your videos
@the_black_douglas9041
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Curtis, I guess the inability to monitor is somewhat offset by the post processing capabilities provided by 32 bit floating? Does this ‘talk’ to the AtomX SYNC module on the Atomos NINJA V? I use these and love them!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug. Yes, I agree, somewhat offset. It doesn't solve the problem of being able to know if you have problems like clothing rustle, but it does solve the issue of setting the gain incorrectly. This is a stand-alone system and does not talk with the AtomX sync module or any of the Timecode Systems gear.
@the_black_douglas9041
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd thanks Curtis 👍🏻😊
@iyengaryogacenterofsandieg4227
3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation - as usual!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@scottslotterbeck3796
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Curtis: sound quality compared to my Tascam dr 10? I love the freedom of not having to deal with interference and drop outs. I'm happy with my Tascam, just wondering about the sound quality. Thanks!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
About the same as the Tascam when comparing included lavalier microphones.
@CookingwithFriends111
Жыл бұрын
wow this is such a great video! Thank you so much for the information :)
@curtisjudd
Жыл бұрын
👍
@ScottJWaldron
3 жыл бұрын
Great job on the video as usual! 9:25 is probably the biggest thing I'm reluctant about when dropping around $1500 (Track E + 4x sync E & mounts) on a full audio/timecode kit from them. It's too bad the Track E doesn't do stereo 32-bit recording. Having a dual head lapel would help limit the chance of shirt noise being a problem. Another negative I'm seeing is no easily replicable batteries. Price is relative, but I'd likely be using this stuff for a long time so the batteries are another thing holding me back (Edit, nice to see they will offer a battery replacement kit). I emailed Zoom about their new F2. That one also has a few drawbacks in recording. It can do 32-bit stereo, but only in 44khz and not 48khz (48khz in mono like this one is possible). Overall, the Tentacle sync stuff does seem like the best option to get a nicely integrated timecode based audio setup with cameras that don't officially support timecode, so I'm still thinking about it. Hopefully timecode stuff becomes even more mainstream so there are more options and lower prices.
@Taukasauva
3 жыл бұрын
Wait what! Zoom said F2 records stereo? I emailed them saying I assume F2 records only Mono and went on asking if I can use then two F2:s with two separate mics to create binaural recording and they said nothing about stereo recording, just that the levels would be different with two separate recorders. Damn, are you sure the stereo really worksin 44.1? Like for example with this mic pair store.lom.audio/sk/collections/microphones-accessories/products/mikrousi?variant=6174830002208
@Taukasauva
3 жыл бұрын
Btw when I emailed Tentacle Sync about my plans for binaural audio, part of their answer was like this: "By the way, we are already working on a stereo version but I can't promise when exactly we will release it next year."
@ScottJWaldron
3 жыл бұрын
@@Taukasauva I'm not sure of anything considering I haven't used it. It is possible the person at Zoom USA got the spec wrong.
@ScottJWaldron
3 жыл бұрын
Here is the exact text from the Zoom USA rep: "In terms of your question about 32 bit float recording, the F2 records in the following file formats: 44.1kHz/32-bit float, 48kHz/32-bit float Mono, BWF format supported."
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott!
@MatthewRare
3 жыл бұрын
May sound like a dumb question, but I’m unfamiliar with processing 32bit files, and most searches only pull up bouncing options at 32bit. To utilize the ability to reduce clipping, would you need to have your overall session set to 32bit float (whether in audition / pro tools / etc)? I’m assuming to recognize the extra 8 bits it would need to be set globally to that prior to importing, otherwise it would truncate?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, your DAW app will need to support 32-bit float. ProTools and Audition both do. Logic does not.
@ili6065
2 жыл бұрын
very Usefull. Thank You!
@curtisjudd
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@JuusoHoo
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for nice and wisely neutral notes on a new product. Zoom came out with one too I saw. These dont do miracles but help in situations you cannot concentrate on audio controlling AND you need to do things in postproduction, so no help for streaming audio. The distortion issue I guess comes in hands when the mic cannot handle higher audio pressure right? Nice review! PS. You could use a "normal" 16/24 bit recording with a good lavalier and record to a phone or small dig.recorder too...? (Those we have around🤣)
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Juuso, yes, correct on all counts.
@alanb4942
3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful review, thank you Curtis 👍
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
👍
@stevefines1887
3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. While I really like the idea, not being able to monitor strikes me as asking for trouble. Getting back to the office and discovering some hair or clothing or other noise that could have been prevented would be such a drag.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
That is the huge trade off with body pack recorders across the board. You don’t have to worry about wireless dropouts, but clothing noise and any other interference is something you cannot catch while recording.
@robchado
3 жыл бұрын
Nice corps jacket! 😎 It would be cool to have the ability to monitor/adjust via the app similar to Wingman. If it's not currently possible, I wouldn't mind the unit being a bit larger for that functionality.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert. You can adjust the gain and watch the meter on the app, just cannot monitor with headphones. I didn't know that Wingman sends an audio feed for monitoring?
@robchado
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Ah, I might be mistaken. For some reason I always think Wingman can monitor audio via headphones, rather than monitoring levels.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
@@robchado I believe it is the same - sends meter data in real-time but no audio, at least last I checked. That'd sure be a nice feature though I'm sure there'd be a bit of latency.
@jordanseitzinger3167
2 жыл бұрын
Any word friends? It’s been almost a year. You mentioned it in your video Curtis. Still no audio monitoring via app? Was it brought in with a firmware update?
@SlavGuns
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I am actually quite surprised you did not mention a direct competitor that these are meant to replace, the Tascam DR10L units. Would be great to see the sound quality difference between the two. Glad to know the battery is user replaceable, and knowing that, it would be nice, of course, having a bunch of rechargable AAA in the Tascam is far more convenient. Simply swap out the AAA battery before every session, and even if I am low, swap in a new one. Since I film outside, I wonder what that battery life would be in 40 degree weather. When it dies, for sure SOL. I do think the time stamp encoder could be AWESOME, especially for more than 1 unit such as doing interviews. How much is the one for the camera? Or available as kits? Also, does this one allow you to dual record? On the Tascam I can record at the level along with a backup track at -12 db. And btw, your hair is great. =)
@mshaftenberg
3 жыл бұрын
And Tascam is half the price. Can't understand either.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
I’m not perfect 😔
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Tascam does not do 32-bit float. 32-bit float eliminates the need for “backup” or “safety track” recording.
@mshaftenberg
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Nobody needs to be perfect, your videos are good as they are. But I noticed that Gerald Undone avoided to mention The DR-10L also. Won't say you both are bought, but this is strange as the advantages of the Tascam are obvious, let the 32bit recording aside.
@fuglbird
3 жыл бұрын
Another great informative review. Thank you!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@JoeMustang99
3 жыл бұрын
I've got an E on order now for use at the shooting range. Should work great for that application up to the SPL limit of the mic. And I might add time code some time. Plus I can continue to use the Tascam DR-10L as a backup or at a different location. I also have a Hollyland wireless setup coming to replace the Rode Wireless Go. I lost a transmitter a few weeks ago and this looks like a good replacement plus two channel.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
I hope they work well for you, Joe.
@imark7777777
3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest deal breaker is the headphone jack not working during recording, if I bought a dedicated audio recorder without a headphone jack or with a jack that's disabled during recording.... Was also hoping you would mention the hack that you can do with the non us model for all of those out there who aren't in the US, of feeding it into a wireless pack that way you get both remote monitoring and a backup recording. We're only now just starting to hit the Cliffs of the bad patent system, it's one thing to protect your idea it's another thing to hoard your idea. Especially when it's something every recorder has done for decades. I like the idea of this unit, but if I were to buy one it would be on holiday..... somewhere outside of the US. Unless somebody figures out how to hack it?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
I, too, am not a fan of Zaxcom's abuse of the patent system or the patent office's complicity by granting patents for the combining of two mature technologies.
@fxpictures1658
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as always!
@curtisjudd
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@WindersRanger
3 жыл бұрын
This recorder might be just what im looking for. Ive had issues with audio at times, using the cannon G7x, especially with dialogue and loud sounds clipping. Using the G7x as a blogging camera, its audio is okay to fair on average but it doesnt manage loud sounds well. For instance vlogging in a theme park where there are a lot of ambient sounds, dialogue and say, fireworks. Trying to clean all that up to a usable sound level in post is quite time consuming to say the least.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
That's a good use-case for something like the Track E.
@WindersRanger
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Thank you sir for the reply. I appreciate it.
@andreasbuder4417
3 жыл бұрын
Uuuuuh nice! And pleeease test the new Zoom F2, when it gets released. It is essentially the cheaper version of the Track E, but from the looks as good.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have it on preorder, just waiting for it to arrive.
@andreasbuder4417
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Damn, Gerald Undone was faster 😅
@przybylskipawel
3 жыл бұрын
Great content as usual! We wait for Zoom F2 review. BTW... What a confusing name!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
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@ScribblebytesWorldwide
3 жыл бұрын
Love the review. Its very thorough. I find this mic quite noisy. I'd love to see you do the Instamic (or link it here if you already have).
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scribblebytes.
@idahofallsmagazine3691
3 жыл бұрын
No monitoring through headphones while I shoot? That's a serious downside indeed. You spelled it out quite well at 9:17. As you said, that 32-bit float is amazing, but there's a lot more that can go wrong than just level settings, like jostling/handling of the mic against fabric. Variable breeze outdoors might be another. Oh, and here's one for you: Just two weeks ago I had a subject talking and his smartphone started vibrating in an adjacent pocket. He just kept talking, thinking it didn't matter, and the other two people on set didn't hear it, of course. If I hadn't been headphone monitoring, much of that shoot would have been ruined. I think I'll pass on Tentacle until that patent issue is resolved. (Even then, I wouldn't want to connect my headphones to the recorder. I'd want to connect via bluetooth to my smartphone. That would be slick!)
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a wireless microphone system might be a better fit for what you're doing. Happy recording!
@easkate
3 жыл бұрын
would you get this over the zoom f2?
@RChildVision
3 жыл бұрын
Great question. Plus would like to know if theres a lock-hold recording feature like the zoom f2
@hiawrj
3 жыл бұрын
@@RChildVision The button on the right is quite tight, and has to be held in place for a couple of seconds for the recording to stop. So I think it serves roughly the same purpose. I have this Track-E and I am not concerned, at all, that it will turn off during recording. Also, you can monitor if it indeed does record via the app and also start/stop record from the app.
@RChildVision
3 жыл бұрын
@@hiawrj thanks for the reply. Good to know. By monitoring, do you mean you can listen to the recording via the app?
@hiawrj
3 жыл бұрын
@@RChildVision sadly not, but you can see the waveform playing as if there was sound. So make sure the mic is placed properly on the talent so there is no rustling noises from clothes or hair physically touching it. If you make sure of that, then this recorder is foolproof. I've already used it on 5 paid videos and it works exactly as advertised.
@RChildVision
3 жыл бұрын
@@hiawrj great. Thanks for your reply
@stianmaurstad
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Never understood what 32-bit float is, but now because of you I do. This is amazing. For how long has this been around? I would think everyone should record in 32-bit float, as long as your equipment can? I need to look more into this. Thank you! Subscribed.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stian. Not all software can read 32-bit float audio files so that is one reason to stick with 24-bit in some cases.
@theuncledru5266
2 жыл бұрын
I've heard that in app audio monitoring is now available for this product, at least in beta! Would love to see you do a run down of this if you ever get the chance.
@curtisjudd
2 жыл бұрын
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@fiercesound2138
3 жыл бұрын
Great video Curtis
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@thornne
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great review. Included mic sounds a bit muffled, but its still OK as being included mic. I'd definitely use DPA with it, which I wouldn't be able to use with Zoom F2 because It doesnt have 4,5V phantom power for the mic. Second thing its much better choice for me then F2 is compatibility with TS Timecode devices which I use. F2 cant sync with Tentacle Sync.
@imark7777777
3 жыл бұрын
Plug in power, Phantom is 48 volts
@thornne
3 жыл бұрын
@@imark7777777 I guess we all know what I meant, but thanks for correcting me!:)
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed - the included mic works decently for very bright, articulate, sibilant voices, but a little muffled for darker voices like my wife's.
@imark7777777
3 жыл бұрын
@@thornne I thought that by the sentence you might’ve known that but wanted to clarify in case anybody else read it. Having gone through looking for information on the subject it’s really annoying when the wrong word is used and then gets propagated throughout the entire document or form posts.
@musasm
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Curtis, I hope you will review Zoom F2 too, this ones cheaper opponent. You are the best.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Musasm, Yes, I have placed a pre-order for the F2 and will review it once it arrives. Thanks!
@FrederikHeringa
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as always, thank you! I'd say, there's not much point in getting the US version. Pairing the track E with something like a Rode wireless go, or cheaper competing products than can send two signals to one receiver is a great solution. Also, the noise with the included tentacle microphone is very substantial! It would be great to have quick test of the noise levels between the included mic and the Sanken cos11d. Even better, how would a similar comparison compare to the preamps of Mixpre ii series ?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frederik, the noise floor with the Sanken in the exact same setting was 4dB RMS max lower than the included microphone.
@Whaever_1981
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd That is better for sure but also not exceptional. Thank you!! :)
@Praxiszooms
2 жыл бұрын
was veeeery helpful!!!
@curtisjudd
2 жыл бұрын
👍
@dantheflyingwalrus
3 жыл бұрын
that lav mic looks suspiciously like a Sennheiser ME2 (love the review btw!)
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
👍
@johnpaulporitz
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very informative.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
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@JohnSoh
3 жыл бұрын
Is there a max db that 32 bit recorders can record before clipping? Like if you wanted to capture the sound of a rocket launch that's 180db or something. Would it still clip or could you bring that down too?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Short answer: 770dB. In 99.9999999999999% of cases, the microphone's ability to capture a loud sound will be compromised long before the 32-bit float recorder: www.sounddevices.com/32-bit-float-files-explained/
@DCPImages
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent video, Curtis. Perhaps you could consider doing a follow up on microphones and 32-bit float. I do field recording and sound effects. Clearly 32-bit float recorders handle clipping at the recorder level well, but they presumably move the limiting step to the microphone hardware. Do you have any advice, dB parameters and mic recommendations, especially for very loud and quiet sounds?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Hi DCPImages, thanks for the suggestion! For dialogue, the main purpose of this recorder, such considerations are not quite as critical as they are for sound effects. But the main factors will be the max SPL and dynamic range specifications and performance. That's especially tricky with lavalier microphones which generally don't do as well as larger microphones.
@jokubasvaicius
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks 👍🏼
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@kmwong1786
3 жыл бұрын
If you have 2 Track Es, can you misuse one as timecode generator for your camera?
@petesoulis
3 жыл бұрын
I asked the same question to the guys at Tentacle Sync and they said that you need a Sync-E for the camera.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed with Nassos T - you need a Sync E for the camera.
@richardsisk1770
3 жыл бұрын
Good review. Thank you!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Richard!
@rachinski
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Curtis, love your show. Tell me, it's going to work with sony lavaliers from uwp? I in the market for those Sanken cos-11. All my wireless body packs are from sony. But I'm thinking a lot in a pair of track-e to go along with timecode. If I buy the Sanken for uwp would I be able to use on those track-e? Phisicaly they seems to fit.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lucas, unfortunately no. Sony is one of the few companies which use a different wiring scheme for their 3.5mm microphones. You would need to have the microphone re-terminated for Sennheiser 3.5mm to work with the Track E.
@rachinski
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@benolsen9455
3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Thanks for comparing to another pro lav.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
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@jayeshrathod8444
3 жыл бұрын
Sound is high the mountain for a modest budget films, and I am no exemption. Sony PCM D10 is good enough to use with boom mics for indie filmmakers? or Tentacle Track E will do the job!! (I have none from both of it. So you can suggest which will do the job including dialogue, environment and foley ;). Also looking forward to enroll in your sound courses after Xmas.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jayesh, I would think that the Sony PCM D10 would be more versatile because it has XLR inputs and in-built stereo microphones for recording ambient sound. I haven't used it so I don't have a review on it, but between this and the D10, I'd think the D10 is the more versatile filmmaking tool.
@jayeshrathod8444
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd thanks for the quick response 🙏🏿
@hakamsoufan
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you , always great work
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks hakam.
@ZhurbaV
3 жыл бұрын
Have a question. This sync app syncs video and audio only at the beginning of file? I mean, what this app will do if my camera has very bad clock? I have for example 3 hour of record. My files will be synced by the beginning but after 3 hours in will loose sync because my camera has bad clock. Or this app can sync the files not only by the begining but correct sync during all file duration? How? In this case it should add or remove some frames from video.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
The way SMPTE timecode works is that it simply encodes the timecode stamp either as an audio signal along with the video encoded file or as a metadata timestamp at the start of the file (audio or video file). Then the sync process is merely a matter of lining up the first frame with the same timecode timestamp on both files. That's all. It doesn't do any sort of compensation for drifting clocks. If you're doing long form video, I'd recommend feeding audio to the camera so that it doesn't drift out of sync over time.
@ZhurbaV
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd So, I can disconect sync device after I pressed record button? SMPTE timecode is important only when record is starting?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
@@ZhurbaV The timecode generator needs to stay attached to the camera, ideally. Technically, you could probably remove it after the recording starts, but I wouldn't chance it.
@MrEchyballs
3 жыл бұрын
learn a lot as always tyvm curis
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
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@cwinasia
3 жыл бұрын
Curtis, thanks for this and many of the other great videos. I picked up a pair of these to use mainly for interviews, but also thought I might use as a way to capture some ambient sound pick ups. Mostly sounds from nature, birds in surrounding trees, waves, waterfall ( I shoot for a lot of hotels so I travel and need to be light). It's so small I'd love to be able to quickly hook it up to something like the D3 or the RODE videoMic NTG. My thinking was a shotgun might allow me to isolate one part of the soundscape, but your videos have shown me I'm better off close to the subject and I'm not always sure I can be. Do you think I would I be better off with more of a stereo mic?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
If you want to isolate specific distant sounds, you’ll be better off with a shotgun mic.
@sandracunningham3995
3 жыл бұрын
#TentacleSync#TracE#Recorder Learning a lot today.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
👍
@Justin_Allen
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I know you did a wireless option video about a year or so ago but I am wondering if you could do another one again. I started out looking at the Deity system and a $1,000 budget and ended up thinking I needed a digital Lectrosonics system at around $8,000. I am a small operator and need wireless but I also need it to be rock solid and able to run by itself. Honestly I am not sure that combination exists! In any event, your videos have been extremely helpful, thanks for doing them.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin. Rock solid and able to run by itself is pretty much non-existent, I'm afraid. DEITY Connect is definitely not Rock Solid in my experience and that is true of any 2.4GHz system. You might have a look at the Sony UWP digital systems. I don't have first-hand experience with them so cannot say a lot, but that'd be one of the better options at your target budget (though I may be mistaken, it may be over budget...)
@Justin_Allen
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Thanks and I pretty much thought that. I have the Mix-Pre 6 II because of the 32 bit float to help m out. As to budget...well I'll spend what I have to in order to get good sound with a minimum of pitfalls. As to the Sony system one of the things I read about it was that you could not use other lavs with it because of its connections...I think. There was something that kept it from playing nice with others. Right now my two selections are the Sennheiser EW 500 G4 and the new Lectrosonics DCR822 receiver and some combination of transmitters. One more note. Check out Gerald Undone's latest video. He states that the Zoom F2 competitor to the Tentacle Sync E will allow recording and listening at the same time. Interesting news and I am wondering what loophole they found.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
@@Justin_Allen Correct - I believe the Sony's use a 3.5mm TRS connector that is wired differently than most others. Lectro would be the "Rock Solid" option. Keep in mind that it is only the US versions that have the headphone jack disabled during recording due to patents held by Zaxcom. Gerald is in Canada so he may have the international version.
@Justin_Allen
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd He confirmed that he does not have an international version and that the version he has will be the only version shipping worldwide. It was a very interesting point and Gerald was very careful about how he said it. Also, thanks for the Lectro confirmation. That's how I went from a $1,000 budget to just over $8,000 for my audio gear. And also because the Mix-Pre 6 II does not have digital in or out I am now regretting that choice...but that's one I'll have to live with for now.
@Mr.C0ffee
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! Any budget Lav mics that you recommend for the track E? Merry Christmas mate.
@curtisjudd
7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately nothing under $100 that’s better.
@GuilDormeus
3 жыл бұрын
That title drawn me in
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
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@markjob6354
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Curtiss for this review. If I've understood you correctly, then I should be able to record a walking and talking on camera narrator, and use the same recording unit to also jam-sync that unit to the camera via the same 3.5 mm audio cable to the camera's TC sync in ? Or do I need an extra Tentacle Sync -eeee ?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, you'll still need a Tentacle Sync E for the camera. Camera's need a constant timecode feed throughout the shoot, even when they say you can just jam sync them. I am not aware of ANY camera which has a proper TCXO timecode generator inside.
@M4rs0
Жыл бұрын
''IMPORTANT NOTE: All TRACK E units that are going to an US address, will be an US version. This US version will have the headphone output deactivated during recording.''
@curtisjudd
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for underscoring that.
@M4rs0
Жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd I've just noticed it on their website and your review immediately jumped to mind. Such a simple way they went around it. Glad to help and thanks for everything you do for the community.
@TwaynePereira
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great review! Good to know this can power the Sanken Cos-11D - since the Tentacle can send 5V power. I think the Sanken needs anywhere from 3V - 10V for the pigtail version, based off their website. The Zoom F2 won't be able to power the Sanken, delivering only 2.5V of plug in power. Perhaps I'm thinking about this all wrong, and wondering if you can clarify Curtis?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
That seems like good reasoning. I'll test with the Sanken when the F2 arrives.
@MichaelDavidSpirito
3 жыл бұрын
This is very true. I literally just went through this today. I bought the F2 and it couldn’t power the countryman b3 or the Tram50
@thatsamuellu
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Curtis, Can you jam the timecode on TrackE by using a Deity TC-1 as a master timecode generator? Edit: Seriously, whenever I have any wonder about audio I pull out your video, your channel is literally a Audio oriented university, all the educational piece can be easily found on your channel.
@curtisjudd
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but only via wire, not wirelessly.
@thatsamuellu
Жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd But I am able to unplug the TC-1 from track E after jamming, correct? Or, in the other scenario, let's say I use Mixpre 3 II as a timecode master generator, Jam a Track E via Stereo Out on Mixpre II, then Jam Deity TC-1s, then plug the TC-1s on cameras. They suppose to sync together with the timecode on Mixpre ii, won't they?
@curtisjudd
Жыл бұрын
@@thatsamuellu yes, via cable, but not wirelessly.
@LeeHerbet
3 жыл бұрын
Could you “theoretically” use the headphone out to plug in say a wireless go and then use that to wirelessly monitor?
@DigitalNinja3
3 жыл бұрын
Sync is an issue again.
@LeeHerbet
3 жыл бұрын
@@DigitalNinja3 I was thinking you still use the recording and sync on the track E. You’re only using the wireless go to monitor so that you can hear if there is any clothes noise or things like that.
@BreezeA
3 жыл бұрын
The headphone out does not work when you start recording. For the US version. For the non-us version it is possible to pass it through a wireless transmitter for remote monitoring, or even remote recording.
@imark7777777
3 жыл бұрын
Yes as long as you are not in the US , I've seen that mentioned somewhere else too
@TheToneWork
3 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing.
@ChrisTurnerPhotographer
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate appreciate the content
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris.
@davidjusuf
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, Curtis! Just wondering how big is the file size of 32-bit float? How long can 16 GB microSD record for?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Hi David, something like 15 hours on a 16GB card. It isn't huge like raw video.
@davidjusuf
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Thanks for your reply! Appreciate your work, Man! Keep it up!
@nneun4270
3 жыл бұрын
it says 23 hrs in the specs
@Sirfunkymonkey
3 жыл бұрын
If I powered my mkh-416 using XVIVE P1 to get phantom power, then plug that into the track-E, that would work fine right? great video btw
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
It should, yes.
@Sirfunkymonkey
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd just so you know I tested it and it works like a charm. Amazing combo
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
@@Sirfunkymonkey Excellent, thanks for sharing!
@ianoliver3879
3 жыл бұрын
'Each' is a singular word.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@MarcelloScotti
3 жыл бұрын
great review !!! thx!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marcello!
@ZachBoyce
3 жыл бұрын
thought another "con" is the files this generates are substantial compared to non-32 bit recordings?
@rsmith02
3 жыл бұрын
Any audio is tiny though compared to video, isn't it?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Not by much. You can still record something like 15 hours on a 16GB card.
@petet66
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Curtis, thanks for another professional and informative video review. I shoout with a Blackmagic Pocket 6K camera. If I wanted to use this and have timecode sync with my camera am I right in thinking I would need a Tentacle Sync E attached to my camera. The Track E would then be jammed to that device's timecode before being attached to my talent (either by wire or Bluetooth). Thanks for your help :-)
@curtisjudd
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly right. And the Sync E and Track E can be re-jammed at any time via the mobile app.
@petet66
2 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd thanks so much for such a quick response :-)
@MarkOakleyComics
3 жыл бұрын
Sooo, it's like a Tascam DR-10L but at 32 bits and with timecode and BlueTooth syncing. You pay $150 more for the extra 8 bits plus the generator. -Which actually seems fairly reasonable. Though, I'd miss the Tascam's LCD readout. I can see the value of being able to sync to external devices, but I'm not a fan of BlueTooth; it's prone to being sketchy and unreliable.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
All fair points.
@AlecEagon
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Curtis, is there a strong argument to be made that the A>D could still be far superior on a Zaxcom or Lectrosonics small recorder so that the final sound quality is still superior even though those are recording at 24/48khz vs. a Track E at 32bit float? I'd imagine so, but curious to know your thoughts... I love 32bit float on our MixPre3iis; I hate wireless; I love on body recorders; I hate bit/sample rate conversion...mulling over options-I may pick one of these up and put an Mke2 on both it and my ZFR400 and do a comparison video. Is the release of the Track E going to change the whole industry like when FCP and Resolve both moved down to a $300 price tag or is this just a cheaper-Chinese-plastic way of recording 32 bit-float? Also, do you think there is any chance Zaxcom and Lectro will update their firmware to support 32bit float anytime soon? Thanks so much for being on top of all this! Happy Holidays! - Alec
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but I'd guess that the analogue stage is the part that makes the biggest difference on the higher-end gear like Zax or Lectro. Also, Zaxcom has had their neverclip technology for years. It is not technically writing a 32-bit float file, but it accomplishes the same thing via other clever means, using dual A/D converters as I understand it. My main wireless is Audio Ltd A10. I have no issues with it. The limiter works great, the preamps are clean. Some people scoff at the fact that it converts to 44.1kHz, but I have found its audio quality to be superb.
@AlecEagon
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd That's right, I forgot you were an Audio Ltd guy. Love to compare with that someday. The ZFR400 + MKE2 is impressive for it's size so far. Little bright on the mic side. Need to try that Sanken you are always mentioning. Anyway, figured that would be your answer. I just smile at anyone who'd scoff at any sample/data rate 16/44.1 or above. I spent the last four years of my life in a private fully analogue hifi recording studio where we tested practically every studio A>D and sample/data conversion technology from the past 30 years only to conclude that the most important factors are 1) the initial capture (the A>D), 2) using zero sample or bit conversion after the initial capture, and 3) the quality of the mix/material you've got coming in. If you REALLY know what you are doing up to the point of mixdown, 16/44 vs.32/192 mostly becomes a matter of preference since different bit/sample rates present your materially, well, differently. 16/44.1 necessitates dither but dither has its own sound. I've heard many mixes that I preferred the crunch and closeness of a 16/44.1 capture, over the 24/96 capture, but I still loved the added 3Dimensionality of the latter. I love everything 16/44.1 and above-the differences are like CD vs. Vinyl (even vs. hifi cassettes that my friends and I make for each other these days); each one is just another chance to experience a favorite record in a slightly different light, from a slightly altered perspective. Anyway, thanks for the confirmation! As much experience as I have in high-end music studio audio, I am still very much learning how things work in the field. Thanks for all of your help! -Alec
@bopcph
3 жыл бұрын
A little note here is needed to prevent the misconception that you can now record with 32 bit resolution - THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE !!!!. They call it "32 bit float" - what it really is, is 24bit (ADC) recording with an 8 bit programable gain amplifier on front of it. In reality it is a digital controlled compresor (or fader) in front of your sampling 24bit ADC where you get the digital control value added to the 24bit sample value. In that way you are able to reconstruct the original relative level between weak and strong pasages in your soundtrack - BUT the nois floor will NEVER be more than (theoretical) 144dB below the peak level. Meaning - the THD+N will never be better than (practical) ca. 125dB, whitch for all (but a very few) microphones is all they need !. I am sure that some would have googled for 32 bit ADC's and found 2 - TWO - one from Linear Technology and one from Texas Instruments. But before you get too excited - both of them is rated at maximum 10 samples per second if they should deliver 32 bits with less than 4-12 least significant bits(counts) noise flicker - that is a bandwidth of less than 5 Hz or just about 4000 times less than you would expect to get from an audio ADConverter. For comparison, the best DMM's from HP/Agilent/keythley and others are 8½ digit whitch equates to 28 bits resolution. All of them have sample rates between 0.1 and 1 sample per second !! Yes, that's right - from 1 second to 10 seconds per sample !!!! Zoom makes a recorder too that is claimed to record in 32bit float - if you read their documentation you will see that they admit that the resolution is Only 24 bit. I doubt that ZOOM and Tentacle has significanly different technologies hiding under the lable "32 bit Float" recording ;-)
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bo. Out of curiosity, have you had an opportunity to see inside of any of the devices claiming 32-bit float recording capability?
@bopcph
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd No, unfortunately, and I am very curious to see how they have made the delay-line that will be needed between the input stage and the ADconverter. Zoom does revel that they us a 1mS delay before the 24 bit converter - just how ?, without quality lose !? As I can't find an integrated solution for 32bit-float AD conversion, I am very curious to see how they have solved the problem. My best guess is that they have placed a Log VCA or more likely an 8 bit Log DAC in front to att. the incoming signal :-) A picture could very well show witch of the two it is ;-) Sound Devices have a nice article explaining the 32bit float format place "32-bit-float-files-explained/" in front of "www.sounddevices.com/" to read that. They also have the decency to admit that their products has a dynamic range of 142 db - just shy of the 24 bit resolution. As one would learn from that article is that the format is one sign bit, 8 exp. bits and 23 mantissa bits - or in reality plus and minus 23 bit resolution (as in 24 bit audio ADC/DAC). Btw. thanks for some very serious and often educating videos :o)
@AlexD12345
3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do compare Zoom F2 to Tascam DR10 L in terms of a size, features, and most importantly audio quality. These are the closes competitors in portable small size recorders. THANK YOU!
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
I don't have a DR-10L on hand for the comparison, just the borrowed unit I had from a few years ago. But I suppose you can listen to the old review side by side with my upcoming F2 review.
@AlexD12345
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Thank you. But still that would be a spectacular review - hopefully some day... :)
@Cactustone
3 жыл бұрын
Does 32-bit float essentially eliminate the need for a hardware external compressor, such as the Engineering Labs "Distressor?" Or would the benefit of the external compressor be the elimination of level correcting in post? How tedious is the leveling in post when using 32-but float without compression baked in?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, yes and yes. A well configured compressor will save time in post. If that's not an option, 32-bit float prevents most clipping while recording so you can do the compression in post. It is a tradeoff. And of course, a microphone can still saturate or distort before the audio ever makes it to the recorder so you'll still need to be careful about that.
@Cactustone
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Thank you!
@DigitalNinja3
3 жыл бұрын
I know you use mostly next level Pro gear but maybe an amateur audio shoot out between the Rode Wireless, Tascam 10 DR-LW s, Zoom F2 BT , and the Tentacle Track?!! I've been looking at the Rode Wireless vs the filmmaker kit and also the Tascams but then the Zoom F2's and this came out.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
First question: Do you really need wireless? Would a body pack recorder be good enough for what you're doing? What if you find yourself in a location where 2.4GHz is totally saturated so your RODE wireless just doesn't work?
@DigitalNinja3
3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd I don't really need wireless. It's why I'm leaning more towards the Tascams & the Zooms. I like the idea of being able to upgrade the Zoom BT's with timecode down the road.
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
@@DigitalNinja3 I agree, good call. I have a ZOOM F2 on pre-order and will cover that in relation to the Track E and DR-10L in that review.
@Odisseoroma
3 жыл бұрын
Great review Curtis but, do you think it can be used as a backup recorder for a beltpack transmitter?
@curtisjudd
3 жыл бұрын
In lieu of a transmitter, yes.
@clutchdownpod
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man. I've already got one of these and love it. I was thinking about getting another for two person interviews & documentary type shoots. Is it easy enough to monitor two of these within the app and would you recommend getting the Tentacle Sync E to plug into camera for timecode to streamline the post production audio sync process? Thanks
@curtisjudd
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure about monitoring, I haven’t set that up on mine yet (I don’t use them very often).
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