Alfa. The Tesla appears to drive & perform well but it's hideously ugly. The Alfa ticks far more boxes for me and is an attractive car which is a rare thing in this price range
@mravi97
5 жыл бұрын
You can’t be serious!! A dishwasher, or a 500 bhp piece of art?
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Aleksandar Atanasov so far lots of love for the Alfa!
@LU-vz3hi
5 жыл бұрын
Brain says Tesla Heart says Alfa
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Just get both
@dzerres
4 жыл бұрын
wallet (over the long run) says "Tesla" as well. Can you imagine the repair and service bills for an Alpha?
@drakeil
4 жыл бұрын
@@dzerres Just ask Scotty Kilmer: "Money Pits".
@nilsfrederking62
4 жыл бұрын
Just test drive the Tesla, I drove a Model S P100 DL, that acceleration is out of this world and completely silent which in my opinion makes the experience even better.
@philmitchell9552
4 жыл бұрын
@@dzerres 5 years free service on the alfa.... must be sooooo expensive to service then
@mihaavsic9608
5 жыл бұрын
Henry Ford once said."When I see an Alfa Romeo go by, I tip my hat.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Miha Avšič good old Mr Ford
@MarkLsixtyseven
5 жыл бұрын
When i hear an alfa i tip my hat.
@MarkLsixtyseven
5 жыл бұрын
@@Tuck_Frump Yes he did kzitem.info/news/bejne/t6lntm2pkGWddKQ
@UAPJedi
5 жыл бұрын
Miha Avšič the AA man also gave the Alfa Driver the thumbs up, just after he got him going again.
@UAPJedi
5 жыл бұрын
Stan Kinaz you’re right, it was an AA man👍
@ufx808
5 жыл бұрын
I've never known anybody enjoy going sideways more than Tiff and have also been watching him for more years than I care to admit. Tiff, you never fail to put a smile on my face. Paul, you have the envious position to drive alongside one of the best.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
ufx808 I think both Paul and Tiff enjoy their jobs 😂
@szn00
5 жыл бұрын
Can't explain why but Alfa's just so special to me❤
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
No 5hit you are not on your own 💪
@davidorama6690
5 жыл бұрын
159 and Giulia the two most attractive sedans. Ever,
@paddymuppy
5 жыл бұрын
Because you don't have one.
@dzerres
5 жыл бұрын
Wondering about reliability and cost of maintenance. Alpha Romeo was chased out of the US long ago because they were POSs. This car is a thousand times more complex and Italian cars don't have a good reputation for reliability. I would wait for a year and read the long term reviews.
@mattspeer01
5 жыл бұрын
@@dzerres The Giulia is already near the end of its third model year in the US came (2017 was first model year and the 2019s are on sale currently). I would expect a mid-cycle refresh soon for the 2020 MY. The long term reviews have not been kind, in terms of reliabilty, even if they gush about the performance. Car and Driver just published their final 40,000 mile test update on a 2018 Quadrifoglio and said it was one of the most amazing cars they have ever had in their long term fleet, but it broke their heart because it spent a ridiculous amount of time in the shop being fixed.
@ewadge
5 жыл бұрын
I love the Tesla and I’ve pretty much written off internal combustion cars for myself but the Alfa is pretty gorgeous and one of the nicest of the old school cars you can buy.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Eric Wadge would you go back ?
@MarkLsixtyseven
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV Not if it was 400 miles back.LOL
@trevor5929
5 жыл бұрын
While drooling over a red G-Quad at the local dealer, a customer came in to buy one. He had a Tesla and said that while its fast as hell, it has absolutely no soul! And i get that. A silent car with no feedback from engine or exhaust would indeed be "boreing".
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Trevor Nemeth that are not for everyone that’s for sure. Personally I could easily live with an EV but Paul and Tiff would struggle (charging infrastructure mostly)
@josephfigliuolo7286
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed keep an ICE vehicle for the track? The ev acceleration is never boring.
@ThomasHarrisonLord
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa all day, it appeals to my heart in a way a Tesla doesn't.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Thomas Harrison-Lord fair enough 👍
@Dalisu87
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV when it works
@mavsun
5 жыл бұрын
Here to support Tiff's new endeavor! DiscoveryTV you should've never let the man go. Fifth Gear's nothing without Mr Needell.
@bangerbangerbro
5 жыл бұрын
Didn't the last series have him?
@TheFunkyair
5 жыл бұрын
Enjoying Tiff last 20 years And his fun never gets old
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
TheFunkyair timeless
@emiliofernandez7117
5 жыл бұрын
KZitem hasn’t told me about you guys in a while! Nice too see you’re stilling uploading 🤘🏻❤️🥴😎🇬🇧
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Emilio Fernandez We are still at it Emilio 👍
@jbnitpou9942
5 жыл бұрын
I was on JAGUAR XE with ZF gearbox during 4 years (very nice car indeed) and I just go on TESLA M3 Dual Motor Long Range right now ..... God, what a marvelous car .... Really ? I don’t miss all gas engine cars & I think I will never go back. But it’s my opinion and not everyone has to have the same .....
@MpDay
5 жыл бұрын
Everything you want in live is excitement. Look at that smile on his face when he hits the pedal on the Alfa. The sound, the noise, the engine roar, the dails that all move about, the excitement. It's all that matters!
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
You could well be right but not sure everyone will agree 🤷♂️
@fazer12779
5 жыл бұрын
You’re both picking the Alfa. A aeroplane goes 500mph but still isn’t fun!
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
DanieI Joseph that’s a lovely analogy 👌
@ALMX5DP
5 жыл бұрын
DanieI Joseph depends on what kind of airplane and what a persons definition of fun is.
@South4153
5 жыл бұрын
Summer Tyme they are fun the first couple of times you‘re driving them then it gets boring and annoying.
@eubikedude
5 жыл бұрын
A zero motorcycle has a much lower top speed but could well be even more fun than these cars (if you know what you are doing with it, on a twisty road).
@eubikedude
5 жыл бұрын
@Fenetix A jet - if it has VTOL. But a VTOL electric plane would be even better; quieter and cheaper/cleaner to run.
@JonBobben
5 жыл бұрын
I see hundreds of Teslas each day. With the low hood and high roof on the Model 3 it looks a little bit silly. In my country they cost the same as a Golf GTI so they are beating every sales record. But three guys in my neighbourhood has the Alfa Q. It’s cool, unorthodox, noisy, and exotic. I love their petrolhead desicion of getting these beasts compared to the tame sowing machines.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Each to there own I say 👍
@navehal1019
5 жыл бұрын
A true car is like a symphony, it's a love child n driving is like addiction over above everything. The sound the vibration the force on hand the G's u hit, all this make u fall in love with it. And that's what Italians are good at. A washing machine can't understand even it rotates faster than a petrol heart. Sad to see the slow death of this beauties in the future. Alfa,Fiat Love
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
I love both 👍
@bbui949
5 жыл бұрын
I understand what you're saying. But after driving a TM3 I don't miss the BMWM3 at all. Same for everyone I know who have had high end cars. Tesla really is the future.
@LukeGB003
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa is just pure beauty, so much love for the company, I love all their cars
@pedrows2832
5 жыл бұрын
The Alfa ...... That's it
@rohangrge
5 жыл бұрын
I just live to enjoy cars like tiff needell does , just tell him that I've been watching him on tele for more than a decade now and just inspires me more than anything
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
He’s pretty inspirational 👍
@rohangrge
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV a person I'd yearn to meet all my life,just that I'm in India and he's far in the uk
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Rohan George one day we hope to come to India 🇮🇳
@rohangrge
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV can't wait for that day
@gpierre90
5 жыл бұрын
Will love to go on a track with Tiff. He makes car testing interesting.
@TheNinjaRider
5 жыл бұрын
One of the best road tests ive seen in a long time guys!
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
TheNinjaRider thankyou very much, the boys will be happy with that.
@GordonGekko98
5 жыл бұрын
Both fantastic machines. The best sports sedans against each other
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Anthony yep pretty much 👍
@elazotacunaos4752
5 жыл бұрын
The Tesla isn't a sport sedan
@sink2a
2 жыл бұрын
The alfa is 30s faster on a Nurb lap
@ajunta2270
5 жыл бұрын
On a dry track it would be much closer, of course. But yeah, that Alfa looks like poetry in motion.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Ovidiu Diumea difficult to argue with that 👍
@fatboy19831
5 жыл бұрын
I think the Alfa would win on a dry track with no sideways action.
@CFG39
5 жыл бұрын
The Alfa does not have A SINGLE clutch. It's a ZF torque converter automatic.
@mesasartworks
5 жыл бұрын
ZF is not dual clutch automatic and Giulia has got a single clutch with manuall shifter
@CFG39
5 жыл бұрын
mesa's artworks The giulia has a ZF 8-speed automatic with a torque converter, not a single or dual clutch. It’s the same transmission you find in every RWD-based BMW, Land Rover, Audi A8, S4/5/6/7/8, Porsche Cayenne and Panamera, etc.
@becauseiwasinverted7971
4 жыл бұрын
@@CFG39 Agree the one they were driving in the video has the ZF unit. The other commenter might have been referring to the continental European market where there's a manual transmission available with the ZF as the option. UK only gets the auto as will all RHD markets I assume.
@samsondelighted
4 жыл бұрын
@@becauseiwasinverted7971 Why would he refer to a manual transmission like that though? He was obviously referring to the Auto, which he was driving. It isn't dual clutch, it's single, so whatshisface was right.
@becauseiwasinverted7971
4 жыл бұрын
@@samsondelighted the ZF auto has no clutch. It uses a torque converter. By other commenter I was referring to the guy who highlighted that there is a manual transmission option which will obviously have a clutch rather than the review
@klaus8458
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa does ancient technology better than anyone but I prefer faster, non polluting, fossil free motoring so Model 3 has to win.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Mister Darwin if those are the criteria then impossible to argue with that
@etiennelamole9565
5 жыл бұрын
Thordur Hogna Not at all! You have to experience instant torque. There’s like no delay! You press you’re gone
@dzerres
5 жыл бұрын
@Thordur Hogna Not even. I never have had a car that throws you back in the seat like a Tesla.
@dzerres
5 жыл бұрын
@Thordur Hogna but more fun. I'm off a red light before the Porsche even knows I'm gone. Plus the police don't notice you as much.
@jdmfan2170
5 жыл бұрын
There are ways to get rid of pollution, one plant more trees, 2nd we can recycle carbon dioxide. which is in this documentary. kzitem.info/news/bejne/uX6On6Sjimiekqg
@mrbagitos
5 жыл бұрын
That screen is massive. It looks like your driving your iMac.
@LightningArt71
5 жыл бұрын
It's fairly well documented that the standard P Zero Corsas on the Quadrifolio aren't particularly great in damp or cool conditions... It would've been interesting to see the track comparison in conditions which suited the Alfa better.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Sean Lawrence Yes agreed. Not sure how close it would have got as the model 3 is rapid but it would have been a lot closer 👍
@stephenlongfield8492
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned the M3P and currently the Alfa, biggest factor here is the Pirelli Corsa tyres the Alfa comes on. They are a 60 treadwear Summer tyre that’s unusable in the cold or wet. The Tesla is on arguably the best road tyres available, Michelin PS4S. Put the PS4S tyres on the Alfa, it’s a revelation. Either way the Alfa gets such admiring interest, it feels so exotic and special to drive whilst also being so entertaining. To put it blunt, I don’t want my Tesla back
@bispal
5 жыл бұрын
Great video paul, really enjoyed it. So pleased the qf is 3.1 seconds slower as thats 3.1 seconds longer to enjoy that amazing sounding engine and sideways action. I want one! Zero desire for the faster tesla though. Cheers.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
BISPAL thank you 🙏
@H2TEN
5 жыл бұрын
Get it you won’t regret it!
@dzerres
5 жыл бұрын
Hilarious. Who has ever said, "I WANT THE SLOWER CAR!".
@johannesf.2524
5 жыл бұрын
d dzerres buy an air plane that is faster and on a dry track or the german autobahn it‘s another game.
@dannypatwalmer
5 жыл бұрын
i would always choose the alfa over any tesla, no matter which model... (for so many reasons!) :-) Giulia = simply one of the most beautiful car in the world, from a brand, which has a big history... and somewhat affordable...
@gpierre90
5 жыл бұрын
Truely epic car test and also a bit of a difficult choice. I love fun to drive cars and that Alfa looks like a fun car from my point of view. But sometimes you also want a car that can comfortably drive and that glues to the road just like the model 3 and the fact that it has responsive steering it can also be fun. Interior wise i'm with Tiff on this the Tesla doesn't have much to do and i would prefer the speedometer to be infront of the driver. Its a bit too simple. You know what i think if i could afford it. I would buy both of them. Drive them depending on my mood.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
gpierre90 sounds like a good plan
@cleetoris5432
5 жыл бұрын
I see a black Model 3 on my way to work everyday and it’s looks stunning. I’d buy one if I had the cash.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Jake Matheson personally I think it’s styling is its least likeable attribute but hopefully you’ll get the cash soon 💪
@jeremyventurino9481
5 жыл бұрын
I'd have to drive them both. But I love my M3P.
@oystla
5 жыл бұрын
Tesla, Tesla, Tesla. I'm ordering my after the vacation. The best stereo system. White outside, black interior. Why do anyone want a white interior?
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Good choice
@CFG39
5 жыл бұрын
The white is beautiful. Get compliments all the time on ours.
@charleslu7044
5 жыл бұрын
oystla, man that pearlescent white is da bomb, and no extra charge!
@fatboy19831
5 жыл бұрын
My X loved white on white all her cars where equipped that way.
@garyco766
5 жыл бұрын
Strangely, talking to the Tesla employees they seem to think the white interior is the EASIEST to keep clean.
@dopplerfox
5 жыл бұрын
I must admit, these “Easter eggs” are stupid, just driving the car alone should be involving enough and not some stupid apps for kids on the screen.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Hughes because features on cars has never been a good thing ?
@dopplerfox
5 жыл бұрын
Lovecars - I love cool features but to me, that is completely unnecessary and childish, but say an air vent that can disappear into the dashboard completely like how it did in one of the Jaguars, is complicated but still useful because it is the air conditioning.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, different strokes for different folks I suppose 👍
@MB-zt9eo
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa 🍀 for Life👍👍!!
@devanpatel3145
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa for the looks and sound, Tesla for speed, elegance and technology. Another amazing video once again!! You need to upload more videos, I can't get enough of it! ;)
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Devan Patel thank you Devan but these videos take a long time to make 💪
@trihardcx6743
5 жыл бұрын
I think the Alfa looks far more elegant than the Tesla.
@devanpatel3145
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV Ok, I understand. The quality is great though, it must take a long time.
@gtx332
5 жыл бұрын
'tesla for elegance', pffft, about as elegant as a white porcelain toilet. telsa make electric engines, but need to learn how to design cars.
@devanpatel3145
5 жыл бұрын
@@gtx332 In my opinion, Tesla make beautiful, futuristic designs.
@GR8TDUCK
5 жыл бұрын
You guys had a lot of fun! As a Tesla driver, I just wouldn't go back. Instant torque, always stable and fastened to the road, smooth, quiet. I don't want to wait for a transmission to shift down, I want to go NOW. THAT'S what Tesla gives effortlessly.
@jdmfan2170
5 жыл бұрын
My only reason for buying the tesla is that I hate having to buy expensive fule. However, I feel that the interior of the tesla model 3 is boring. the model x and model s interior is good.
@GR8TDUCK
5 жыл бұрын
@@jdmfan2170 It's really a matter of personal taste. All my life I have aspired to fancy cars with more and more buttons and features. Now Tesla comes along and gives us hyper-minimalism. It's a shock.
@jdmfan2170
5 жыл бұрын
GR8TDUCK yeah, I have been inside the Tesla model 3 when I went to Sweden, it’s nice. But the reason why I prefer buttons is that, most car companies are getting rid of buttons for minimalism, while the luxury cars are keeping it, or implanting both. because it’s saves car companies money if they get rid of buttons and details.
@GR8TDUCK
5 жыл бұрын
@@jdmfan2170 I have a model S and I feel it is just fine. I love the interior. In the future, if I got a Model 3 it would be an adjustment.
@craigyirush3492
5 жыл бұрын
Learn how to drive a manual well then. Much more fun than a slush box or a soulless EV with no gears. Driving should be about skill not how easy the car makes it for you.
@timkebienda1809
5 жыл бұрын
The Alfa. Any bloody day!
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Tim Bienda and every day ?
@timkebienda1809
5 жыл бұрын
Lovecars yes every bloody day!
@yerrie1908
5 жыл бұрын
Tiff misses his nokia 6110
@conormccabe4200
4 жыл бұрын
Tesla or Alfa? It’s sort of like asking, “would you like a robot as a wife?” Sure, it would be nice - until you realize one day your spouse is missing a soul and you come to remember the feeling and beauty of being with a human being. I would take the Alfa Romeo any day
@magnustan841
5 жыл бұрын
Any chance of another edition of Tiff Talks coming soon guys? Really enjoy a casual car news chat...
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Magnus Tan on our Patreon channel 👍 details in the bio
@YS3Caero
5 жыл бұрын
The Tesla may be quick but is the most aesthetically boring car I ever sat in.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
It’s not everyone’s cup of tea
@secretivescorpio1105
5 жыл бұрын
Great chemistry between you two, always good content with a great laugh along the way and of course a little friendly rivalry.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
secretive Scorpio appreciate your kind words and really glad you liked it
@secretivescorpio1105
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV Just my honest opinion. If Lovecars was broadcast on tv you would clean up.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
secretive Scorpio let’s hope so 🙏
@secretivescorpio1105
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV Well, you already have a winning formula that your viewers enjoy and find engaging. When I receive a notification that you have uploaded a new video I'm always excited to watch it asap
@veljkoxxx
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa ❤ because Tesla funs ends here 6:31
@raheeb1
5 жыл бұрын
lol the opposite! The best feature
@veljkoxxx
5 жыл бұрын
@@raheeb1 lol maby if ur 13 yr old
@gadgetboy38
5 жыл бұрын
What we need is Alfa design with Tesla technology
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Only a matter of time
@bangerbangerbro
5 жыл бұрын
Shame Fiat Chrysler seems one of the most resistant to EVs.
@howiegreen1646
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa please can you do a timed lap in both cars with tiff driving in the dry
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Hope so soon. It would've been a different story for sure
@fatboy19831
5 жыл бұрын
The Alfa might win.
@nilsfrederking62
4 жыл бұрын
He did not push the Model 3 to its limits. I bet the P3D would win, but for sure, would be interesting to try it!
@bobmizen1
5 жыл бұрын
Good to see you having a great time on our local roads. The noises in Tiffs car were very funny 😁 but I’m not sure they were all electronic 😂. The Alfa’s always seemed great on looks but there used to be those nagging doubts about its construction. I’m sure they are turning that corner now. Thanks again. Regards, Bob M.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Robert Mizen hi Bob and yes you maybe right about Tiff 😂 it does appear that Alfa are seriously back in the running
@WiZe1972
5 жыл бұрын
Was undecided between the Model 3 Performance and a Model S 100d... Ended up taking the Model S two months ago. Now it's already on sale and I want the Model 3 Performance!! :-)
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
WiZe1972 both are pretty special
@ZesPak
4 жыл бұрын
I went for the S 100D for the extra space. The extra range is great as well. But the Model 3 is a steal compared to the S.
@joey7253
5 жыл бұрын
SINGLE CLUTCH?! TIFF HELP HIM OUT!! Standard 8 speed ZF in the Alfa.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Joseph C. It is a converter lock up clutch.The Converter Lock-up clutch eliminates the converter slippage, thereby reducing fuel consumption. Thanks to the considerable torque that the converter can transmit, it is possible to make use of the lock-up clutch in place of a gear shift, giving greater comfort with respect to shifting between two gears. Depending on the load, in some of the engine’s operating points, the lock-up clutch is opened instead of shifting down, increasing the engine speed as happens during a down shift. The difference in rotational speed between the pump and the turbine increases the converter torque, which corresponds to a gear shift. Moreover, the increase in engine speed means that the engine is made to operate in a higher power range.
@willpark7483
5 жыл бұрын
Joseph C. it is single clutch.
@joey7253
5 жыл бұрын
will park no it’s not will. It’s a straight up zf 8 speed, the one found in hundreds of cars.
@willpark7483
5 жыл бұрын
Joseph C. i am awear my dad has a giulia veloce so iam rather familiar with it. i was saying it is a single clutch as a zf8 is a single clutch !
@joey7253
5 жыл бұрын
will park It performs like a dual clutch, performs better than a single clutch that is found in the F430 and other Ferrari’s.. but it’s an automatic. Based on the same technology you would find in many other basic automatics. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission
@mariodecristofaro9492
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa for me, Tesla for my wife.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Nice garage
@ZesPak
4 жыл бұрын
I've owned about half a dozen Alfa's in my life. But I can afford to run the Tesla as a daily. Tesla Model S in the garage, racking up miles. Alfa Guilietta QV next to it, doesn't get out a lot.
@jeremy4925
5 жыл бұрын
I take that very fast and futuristic Tesla. Looks great as well.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Greg fair enough
@JustinCrediblename
5 жыл бұрын
except for the white trim. the white trim is Justin Credibly absurd
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Justin Crediblename I like it, it’s like the 80s has gone into the future
@matthewkerr7145
5 жыл бұрын
Why can’t they pick the better car? The Tesla won the drag race and the track race all at the same price point as the Alfa.. I think the winner is clear
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
I think you are open to chose your own opinion. This is just theirs.
@fatboy19831
5 жыл бұрын
Drive any (working) Alfa and get back with us. I love my Tesla 3. I drove an Alfa V6 back in the mid 1980's that still haunts me. It was such a man's car. The sound. that was 35 + years ago.
@clu4u
4 жыл бұрын
fatboy19831, I owned a 67 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT in 1974, lively 1.6 L. P85D today...
@borissevarika3260
5 жыл бұрын
I love alfa romeo
@Miester7
5 жыл бұрын
Good banter as always guys. Love the content.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dane, I think they enjoyed this one
@g00dfeeling
5 жыл бұрын
I would like to have them both
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
g00dfeeling good choice
@mscott7307
5 жыл бұрын
In Track Mode, the Model 3 can go sideways around those corners, too. You have to really push it to break the back loose. Since it's faster to not go sideways, the computer will try to keep you from doing that if you're just close to the limit, but it will do it if you tell it you really want to-you just need to put your right foot down more than with the Alfa, because the Tesla has so much more grip. Who says an AWD car can't drift-or do donuts? 😈
@netgeek3010
5 жыл бұрын
I was about to say the same thing and in fact there is a video on DAErik youtube page where he lets Motor Trend test driver Randy P. good full out with it.
@Haldexify
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It is very very poor journalism. I would resign from the profession after such a statement.. «you cant drift the Tesla» lol they know nothing about the car
@eubikedude
5 жыл бұрын
@m scott True. I imagine there is a new learning curve needed for folks to drive in track mode with a Tesla, it may end up doing the "fun stuff" but you need to drive it differently to get it to do it. On top of that, with the full software control, I imagine track mode will evolve over time and have additional options, I can see modes such as "ludicrous drift", "over-steer" and "best lap" appearing. Do the BMW and AMG have OTA updates available? Additionally, do they have (semi)autonomous driving which would be even nice to have when driving them in slow traffic which, let's face it, is a lot of the time if the car is your daily driver/commuter and not just a weekend/track thing. I think this is another area where the Tesla wins by a large margin, it's a very practical family car as well as being quick/fun.
@fatboy19831
5 жыл бұрын
With the Alfa it takes skill and a lot of it. With the Tesla the computer is doing most of the work fighting the laws of physics.
@mscott7307
5 жыл бұрын
@@fatboy19831 Without a doubt!
@helpmereachkBefore-gb2pu
4 жыл бұрын
Alfa Romeo my dream car and so is the Tesla witch one should I get? Hmmm
@bikesqump
5 жыл бұрын
Do not try to double clutch the Model 3 Tiff!!! hahaha! I feel bad for car reviewers trying to review the 3 "In every day driving to commute or run errands or drag race, it's so fast and easy to drive..." would be so boring! I can't wait until the Italians make EV daily drivers with that passion!!!
@netgeek3010
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting bit of news about the Model 3 you can now order a base Model 3 performance for under 50 grand how much is that Alfa Romeo going to run you I imagine a bit more then that number.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
All depends on your location but you are probably right 👍
@prontoklasik
5 жыл бұрын
11:20 - 11:25 that was perfect
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Prontoklasik Tiff at home
@xoukilong
5 жыл бұрын
i scanned through but the video looks fun, now i gotta watch from beginning to end
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Xouki Long hope you enjoy
@stefangrubesic2708
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa with both my heart and brain, sadly my wallet says neither 🙄😅 just love watching Tiff
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Stefan Grubesic thank you Stephan, good choice and wishing you good fortunes come your way 🙏
@mannyllanos3655
5 жыл бұрын
your Heart and Brain will love the polluting Alfa particles from the tail pipe, please delicious enjoy!!! while you can ICE is HISTORY!!!TESLA RULES
@VG-Motors
5 жыл бұрын
@@mannyllanos3655 Tesla fanboy spotted.
@stefangrubesic2708
5 жыл бұрын
@@mannyllanos3655 Have you any idea how much production of batteries pollutes? Thought so
@eubikedude
5 жыл бұрын
@@stefangrubesic2708 Less than ICE emissions. Over 8 years the EV will be less polluting (and e.g. a Tesla should easily last for 20 years or more under normal use) and produces no pollution where people are breathing it in. Do some more/better research. The EVs will also get better battery tech as time goes by and the batteries can be reused for e.g. home batteries/power grid where even 20% of the original capacity would be fine while the EV can get a new battery pack popped in with the best tech of the time. In 8 to 10 years batteries will be even cleaner and more efficient.
@w3t80y123
5 жыл бұрын
my two dream cars!
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Nice taste
@Catalina._
5 жыл бұрын
QV : Looks gorgeous, feels special, very rare, sounds glorious, soulful, it's an Alfa Romeo. Tesla : Fast soulless appliance.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
KatyCat Each to their own, personally I think the Tesla is pretty special
@gtx332
5 жыл бұрын
whitegoods on wheels.
@asiastreets4032
5 жыл бұрын
4 wheel drive vs 2 wheel drive?
@wtfdididolastnight
5 жыл бұрын
Bella Macchina ❤️
@adr0110
5 жыл бұрын
Amazing Vid as always! Tiff is a national treasure! Meep up having fun!!!!
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Adam Richards Thanks Adam. We are very glad you liked the video 👍
@kennethjamora
5 жыл бұрын
Folks holding on to the past will love the Alfa. Future thinking folks will go for the Tesla. Tesla FTW!
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Jamora fair enough 💪
@gtx332
5 жыл бұрын
yah, future thinking folks with no regard for aesthetics. the tesla is about as interesting as a wet cardboard box. Tesla might make good electric engines but they have a long way to go in making cars.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
gtx332 that’s fair enough but if I owned a Tesla I wouldn’t be owning it for looks . It would be used from getting from A to B , quietly, cheaply and with instant torque 💪
@harry-eto
5 жыл бұрын
@M A *facepalm*
@kennethjamora
5 жыл бұрын
@@gtx332 Sure thing...also folks holding on to the past will love ICE cars, rotary phones, black & white TVs, and prune juice. Future thinking folks will love EVs, smartphones, 4k TVs, and Kombucha. Future thinking FTW!
@raheeb1
5 жыл бұрын
How can you not giggle and smile at 6:25 lol
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Nizar D. 😂
@eubikedude
5 жыл бұрын
"Equivalent of about 450hp"? HP is HP, irrespective of whether it's from an electric motor, internal combustion or steam or anything else.
@jeffberwick
5 жыл бұрын
True, in an apples to apples comparison you can't argue. But the HP vs RPM is also a really important factor in how the car launches or applies power to the road. An electric motor is considerably better than a gas motor at low RPM. A steam engine is also good at low RPM, but slightly impractical for cars ;)
@rogerstarkey5390
5 жыл бұрын
Missing the point. It's TORQUE in the Tesla, and all EV's, that gives the punch.
@JT-xq2hv
4 жыл бұрын
Power under the curve matters. Go look at a dyno of a Model 3. The Teslas punch higher than their horsepower to weight ratio due to the total power under the curve they make.
@terrancel1786
5 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terrance
@MK-fl2wu
5 жыл бұрын
For me the alfa is more stylish, but other than that tesla beats. Just to be fair, I have to admit tesla is the winner.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
m k fair enough, all depends on criteria but it was certainly faster in a straight line and round the track
@LEA82345
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV No, it is not. Alfa is a much faster car and Nurbugring times prove it.
@inikkor520
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV hmm... and you just had to race on a flooded track just by chance? Seriously?
@Famous_Flavours
5 жыл бұрын
All the best car shows are where the weather is the shittest for driving lol
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Jai van der Straaten welcome to our world 😂💪
@maximua78
5 жыл бұрын
when Tiff is behind the wheel of the Model 3, look at the door rubber seal on a B pillar, and now think about the price for this car... yeah, those kind of questions :)
@joey7253
5 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy people buy them. They look like hire cars that cost 20k
@joey7253
5 жыл бұрын
supaahflyy The Tesla’s are put together with bubble gum... you need to open your eyes.
@haidersohail1649
5 жыл бұрын
Seriously Paul your channel’s editing skills are getting and better. No matter what happens to combustion engines I will Any Day choose the Giulia Quadrifoglio. How is Colin The Brave Butterfly? Hahahah. By the way does the Tesla Model 3 have any feel when you drive it? Is the handling tight compared to a rival in particular like the F90 M3?
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Haider Sohail appreciate your kind words. Colin is hopefully enjoying the sunshine 😂. I’m not sure about Paul(he may answer you later) but Tiff was impressed by the Tesla’s handling
@haidersohail1649
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV Ok no worries. I will always be here to enjoy your content. Always nail these comparisons
@vikingskipdotcom
5 жыл бұрын
TM3 hands down. My wallet is too slim to fuel an Alfa.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
vikingskipdotcom fair enough 👍
@Mr_ZPguy
5 жыл бұрын
I think anyone who buys this cars can afford to refuel them ahhaha
@vikingskipdotcom
5 жыл бұрын
@@lovecarsTV The fuel prices in Norway, where I live, favors EV's over ICE cars these days. Gasoline is about 1.50 € per liter, while electricity is about 0.1 € per kWh. It's about ten times more expensive to drive the Alfa than the 3 per kilometer. Then add to the picture that EV's are currently free of any taxes, event VAT, while ICE cars are heavily taxed. You can have two TM3 Performance cars here for the price of one Quadrifoglio.
@eubikedude
5 жыл бұрын
@@vikingskipdotcom Servicing is also less frequent and cheaper with an EV.
@vikingskipdotcom
5 жыл бұрын
@@eubikedude I know. I'm on my fourth year now driving an EV. No issues after some 50000 km in e-Golf and another 10k in 3LR AWD. Both are good cars, but different.
@andrin2374
5 жыл бұрын
Who drives an Automatic with two feet?! The best thing in the Tesla is the one pedal driving. Love the white Interior though
@Taradash4L
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa would be faster if the road wouldn't be wet. I've seen that giula is very fast and can perform better than model 3.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
AgletDC it would have been very close
@garybampkin2448
5 жыл бұрын
Love the video guys,Keep up the good work !
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary
@jeffberwick
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa might be fun for a quick whirl, but I'd rather own the Tesla for long term. Not sure if anybody saw the latest Car & Driver, but the Alfa broke down so often in the 40K mile test it spent 80 days out of 14 months in the shop.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
I have not seen it so impossible to comment but for all our loans we have never had a problem
@jppataki
5 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine got a Mercedes E... That spent 6 months in 12 @ garage.
@paulmerrett5939
5 жыл бұрын
These are my local roads.. when you posted a photo on Instagram I rushed to the spot... all that remained were rubber “stains” left by tiff undoubtedly 🥰
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Paul Merrett he’s a bit like a dog. Leaving his mark wherever he goes 😂
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
And super lucky living there. Wonderful roads.
@paulmerrett5939
5 жыл бұрын
Lovecars 😂
@paulmerrett5939
5 жыл бұрын
Lovecars I really am lucky 🙏
@user-fd6ov1vk4m
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa is sooo goood!!!
@andrewt6121
5 жыл бұрын
Paul pulling the "Whiff Needell" trick!
@greengenspoun7283
5 жыл бұрын
Tesla is for the techfreaks....boooorrriiiinnngggg...... Alfa, for those how livw and wanna be excited!
@WatsonDimanche
5 жыл бұрын
The model 3 is a good weekday car and the Alfa is an all around every day fun car.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Watson Dimanche 👏👏👏
@eubikedude
5 жыл бұрын
I'd put it that the Alfa is a fun weekend car and the Tesla is too but also more practical as a daily driver.
@H2TEN
5 жыл бұрын
I would choose the Alfa all day long. Oh wait - I did!
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Hiten Patel good choice Hiten
@inspirice9844
5 жыл бұрын
Flexin on us normies
@H2TEN
5 жыл бұрын
@Inspirice I’m normal too and not superior in any way. I’m no millionaire by any stretch of the imagination. I just work hard so I can drive hard 😉
@Richard1976
5 жыл бұрын
Giulia any day
@gilmoskovich7304
5 жыл бұрын
The fart app. is amazing !!! If only I had the money
@rdl99
5 жыл бұрын
Just eat some beans and then sit in your car.
@devonloubser5211
4 жыл бұрын
Tiff you make these videos so much better, I don't bother watching if tiff isn't on a love cars clip.
@alanthecat59
5 жыл бұрын
slow changing single clutch? think you better check the manual boys........... speed , and gearbox type
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Alanthecat sorry this was miss information from one of the crew. I think the key point here though is how far the ZF 8 speed has come in closing the gap to DCTs 👍🏻
@andygtv
2 жыл бұрын
Great review
@Bfoxfield1
5 жыл бұрын
Where`s Matt and Janni Yaniothoploisiois haji-ioannou?
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
No idea
@pingwong117
5 жыл бұрын
Always the Alfa
@mddah01
5 жыл бұрын
In Australia the on road price for Quadrifoglio seems to be about $50K more than the Model 3 P. I have ordered the latter. Much as I love Alfas (I have owned one and a Nissan R35 GTR) I believe we are at the beginning of a real transition. I already have a Hyundai Ioniq EV and charge it off our rooftop solar array. In nearly 10,000 km over 3 months I have put air in the tyres, water in the windscreen washers and that's it. I hardly use the brakes because of regen. Other than a slight reduction in my positive credit with my electricity company the direct running cost has been $0.00. With this experience I am confident about how well the Model 3P will work with its extra range. With so many interesting EVs (cars and SUVs and vans) coming onto the market and with lithium battery prices falling it will be game over for the combusion engine in the next decade except for some specialised applications. Yes I miss the sound. But I'll get over it.
@moleBRUV
4 жыл бұрын
I don't care how good electric cars get... Nothing will ever match the emotion and involvement you get from a nice sounding combustion engine!
@miyahtallulah
5 жыл бұрын
Alfa every time. Still, kudos to Tesla.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
miyahtallulah difficult to argue with that 👏
@flipadavis
5 жыл бұрын
Does he not have track mode on with heavy regen or at least normal regen? He keeps left foot braking on fairly low speed sweeping corners at 2:40. You definitely don't need to left foot brake with the Model 3 Performance regen on all but the most hard corning.
@lovecarsTV
5 жыл бұрын
Philip Davis not sure what mode Tiff was using, but I trust his driving more than most!
@nin_4_me58
5 жыл бұрын
My thought as well... watch Randy Pobst Tesla 3 track videos!
@rmv4646
5 жыл бұрын
Now that Tesla has come out, the Moto-journalists' jobs have gotten easy. Tesla just spanks everyone
@craigyirush3492
5 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. Only in a short drag race or a single lap. ICE cars can do mile after mile, lap after lap, at very high speed, and refuel in minutes.
@rmv4646
5 жыл бұрын
@@craigyirush3492 I agree with you, in a long race. Then, and only then, is what I said wrong. But according to this test, which is what we are talking about, and in every drag race, my statement is correct. If they continue the race, then there will be a point in which the gas powered vehicle will eventually overtake the electric, but in every driving situation that someone could experience while driving in the city, I am dead on accurate.
@LEA82345
5 жыл бұрын
@@rmv4646 No, you are not. This is a short track and if it was dry Alfa would still beat Tesla. On longer track like Nurburgring Alfa anihilates Tesla with more than a minute.
@rmv4646
5 жыл бұрын
@@LEA82345 you are crazy. On a dry track it spanked the M3 also.
@rmv4646
5 жыл бұрын
@@LEA82345 kzitem.info/news/bejne/u46n23ussKyUq3o It beats everything in a quarter mile and everything up to 120mph.
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