Never thought I'd see the day where we'd get new Empire Specific MBT guns.
@CAMIKAZE78
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, me neither.
@thetraveler611
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone knows when will these weapons come online?
@MangaSuchtixD
2 жыл бұрын
well im glad that they do finaly some good stuff for NC but i think they will nerf that gun sadly because all will cry. and its good that vs have such a shit weapon because they are op and on Cobalt they mostly team up whit NSO units so it is kinda op. So im glad that tr and nc have in vehicles the upperhand
@Schimml0rd
Жыл бұрын
@@MangaSuchtixD *sad VS noises*
@halburd1
Жыл бұрын
and that they suck and are useless as normal the ones TR gets. which i totally expected and happened.
@kitsune_bot1654
2 жыл бұрын
The NSO one might be ok against bastions too as it can look up pretty good
@PAllen74
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, if an experienced group of players get in those and know where the top hardpoints are, and if it can actually pen bastions like a colossus then this will make bastions very risky to pull in prime time. Which honestly isn't a very bad thing, it will be far more effective vs a defended bastion then an airball.
@LSF_Shan
2 жыл бұрын
hunt the bastions with 10x nso lightning or chimera.....i see that already
@HateMachinist
2 жыл бұрын
@@LSF_Shan heh...my money is on the guy who just needs to left-click on the map.
@CAMIKAZE78
2 жыл бұрын
Noting it won't have Bastion Hardpoint HUD indicators, it'll be very much down to "feeling out" where to hit. But certainly possible.
@kitsune_bot1654
2 жыл бұрын
@@CAMIKAZE78 At least you won't have the problem of the colossus dying from heat damage like my laptop
@lonzo344
2 жыл бұрын
I love that more artillery is being added to the game, but I think that for it to *really* be useful, the barrel angle relative to the camera angle needs to change. As it is, in order to use any of the 'artillery' guns as such, you need to be looking at the skybox. This means that you are either not seeing where your rounds are hitting (and would need a spotter to really make a difference) or you're following your rounds to target, and having to reset your view every couple of shots. (which is really hard given the lack of 'skymarks' in the sky. Was I looking at *this* tiny star, or that one?) I can understand the want to introduce cooperative weapons, but I can't help but think that most squads will feel more effective just having everyone equip AP and engage in direct fire as opposed to loosing a gunner for a spotter on highly mobile targets. Being able to either separately control barrel elevation or engage an alternate firing mode that introduces a fixed elevation difference would help a lot, imo. Being able to see where your rounds are going (or just looking at the terrain and all it's little details for aim adjustment) would make a massive difference in the usability of the JGX11, JGX12, *and* the flash-mounted LA7 buzzard. Bet you forgot about that last one, didn't you? :P
@andrewriggio
2 жыл бұрын
The original Starsiege: Tribes shooter game solved this nicely. You had heavies with ballistic arc mortars, and scouts with laser designators. When they lit a target, anyone on their team wielding a mortar would see an aim point in the sky that would place the round on target. It forced teamwork and allowed long range supporting fire to be a thing. In later versions of the game it was replaced with a deployable targeting beacon that served the same function.
@sherrykathman3309
Жыл бұрын
Or they could do what Battlefield 4 did with their rocked artillery vehicles. When you enter them, you drive around and position the vehicle, then switch to gunner seat and you look at a satellite view of the area in front of the vehicle with a crosshair that expands the as you shoot. The faster you shoot, the further the spread. And after the rocket hits the ground, you see an explosion indicator. As for how the game did laser designators, if a scout painted a target, anyone with any missile capable of locking on, regardless of if it was meant for anti air or anti tank, would be able to lock onto the target, even if they didn't have line of sight. They could then shoot the missile and the missile would track the target and hit it. I feel like PS2 could use both artillery and laser designators.
@Kodaiva
Жыл бұрын
perhaps that could mean the few people who do use spotters become powerful
@handlesarecringe957
10 ай бұрын
I do wish you could toggle between aiming directly and aiming by setting an elevation angle/range
@HAOSMIKE
2 жыл бұрын
The VS are the perfect faction for a beam weapon. a conzentratet beam of plasma. Imagine having this magrider with a constant beam of plasma up to certain distance, and at the end a cloud of very small aoe damage. this could be a cqc option for the magrider while using its agility to out move the opponent while having a high dps weapon for close range, while also balancing this weapon, cause you cant engage targets at range.
@georgestain2803
2 жыл бұрын
this is exactly how magrider does not work and will lose every engage (you can only win with peek and shot strategy). Magrider dont have any close range figt potential.
@rareraven
2 жыл бұрын
@@georgestain2803 It does. I have the extra sideways boost and recharge. I dodge shots, even close range. But not ideal, I agree.
@ivannegrozni7692
2 жыл бұрын
ahahhah I constantly see a lot of prowlers and vanguards and very few magriders. because the magrider is the best tank ... the tank is shit and this is a fact. its advantages are completely offset by the disadvantages. most players are not able to use it normally. the tank is normal only in the hands of a good player, but in such hands any tank is good. magrider is the weakest tank on the battlefield in most combat situations, alas. therefore, the vanu faction does not use magriders much, preferring lightning and harassing. this is the reality
@rareraven
2 жыл бұрын
@@ivannegrozni7692 VS are the best players. So that solves it.
@ivannegrozni7692
Жыл бұрын
@@rareraven Well, yes, I agree that VS has a lot of good players, but the technique is weak.
@taiwaneseweebster2670
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like an interesting way to make the VS one more unique and powerful would be increasing the size of the crescent projectile to give more of a wave effect. That way, it’s easier to hit more infantry and get the angle on other vehicles better to really promote mobility and corner management, what the Magrider specializes in. And if that ends up being TOO powerful, it could also do a thing where the amount of damage done depends, where the less of the projectile lands on its target, the less damage it does as to reward accuracy.
@thejunkmanlives
2 жыл бұрын
it needs to be about 3x bigger.
@805matu
2 жыл бұрын
YES
@AvalancheZ250
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if having a 2.5 second reload infantry OHK tank gun with a huge crescent wave hitbox is a good idea. The Kingsnake can't reliably hit infantry at all, the JDX12 is like trying to lob a basketball at infantry, and the Larion needs two direct hits. Those three are clearly designed for an anti-vehicle role, so having the VS one be designed for an anti-infantry role would leave the VS without its own specialised AV option and increase its infantry farming potential at the same time, which is a double negative. I like the idea of "if more of the crescent wave hits the vehicle, it deals more damage", so long as it can no longer OHK infantry with a 2.5 second reload tankgun. Perhaps make it so that only the "direct damage" portion increases depending on how much the crescent wave hits the target? And then reduce the indirect damage accordingly so the weapon can't OHK infantry.
@thejunkmanlives
2 жыл бұрын
@@AvalancheZ250 i dont understand where this idea comes from that a tank shouldnt be able to easily kill infantry. i mean ffs, if ur getting farmed thats your own fault, not the tank. for years and years ive played games with combined arms and a lot of those tanks/vehicles would shred anything we have in planetside and things where fine. in the current game we have an over abundance of anti tank weapons. brainless lock-ons, jihad c4 players, anti tank maxes, land mines, anti material rifles(which were added to fight maxes, not vehicles), all of the air to ground weapons. but at the end of the day this new vs weapon will probably be weak against other mbts just like hesh is. which means you will get wrecked against an ap kitted tank(assuming they arent bad tankers of course). the magrider is not all that good to begin with. the new chimera ability/main gun will probably push the magrider to being the weaker out of the mbts.
@georgestain2803
Жыл бұрын
@@thejunkmanlives chimera got +500 hp already, this tank will end up as overbuffed, but will never be nerfed, cos its not VS.
@Lerndmina
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like VS is getting the short end of the stick again. And you can't just claim that the benefit is no bullet drop as the nso gets that too now apparently XD.
@missk1697
2 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly happy to have left this dying game. I truly wanted to give the devs benefit of the doubt regarding VS balance, but after seeing the Slicer and this sorry-ass cannon, I am sure nothing will change for the better in that regard. Sad, because PS2 deserves better than those current devs can offer.
@2orhtej2
2 жыл бұрын
I love how phrase 'getting the short end of the stick again' is illustrated by a clip of Magrider doing stuff @0:23
@seriphan399
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we’re used to getting the short end of every stick by now.
@larzanthony2275
2 жыл бұрын
@@missk1697 funny how people using mag always complain that their shots don’t go far.
@msbradley9
2 жыл бұрын
good
@jameswood4676
2 жыл бұрын
I wish the VS got a beam laser style of weapon. Love the others, but the VS choice is a little sad…
@johncalahan6764
2 жыл бұрын
So far i think slicer, lancer, and vortex are the closest in that regard
@physetermacrocephalus2209
2 жыл бұрын
In the original game the Vanu mech (BFR) had a continuous beam laser as an option for one of its anti infantry weapons; it was not very effective but quite fun to use. A similar weapon could work on the magrider but could be hard to balance as it would be either too weak or too strong against groups. It would either need to be a burning effect or chip damage where the benefit is derived from hitting multiple enemy soldiers each firing cycle.
@matchesburn
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it would be cool to have a laser beam style weapon for VS. I'm not a fan of VS weaponry, but even I have to admit the visuals of that, especially at night, would be awesome. Granted, after a few weeks/months of it it would probably get annoying real fast to be on the receiving end of just blue/purple streams of light blinding you...
@edwinortiz4421
Жыл бұрын
VS can already climb in top of hill, containers and cliffs, why make it anymore broken.
@RadarLeon
Жыл бұрын
i think giving it a fuck all damage weapons that just go BRRRRTTTT, like a vulcan laser cannon for the niche mowing down of infantry
@Brawneteer
Жыл бұрын
So apparently the gimmick with the Perihelion was modified, and I don't see anyone talking about it. It now holds three rounds in the magazine, and the weapon can be charged up to unleash all three shots in a burst fire volley with the first level of charge to fire two shots only taking about a second, but the second level of charge to fire all three taking roughly 2-3 seconds after the first level. Damage doesn't decrease with lower level charge, and the full 3 rounds of the mag can cut some serious damage on any vehicle it hits. Sunderers go down in 2 full volleys plus a couple extra shots, MBT's and Lightnings go down in 2 volleys, and given the no bullet drop nature of the weapon it is great at sniping out cheeky infantry with a couple well placed shots.
@AvalancheZ250
2 жыл бұрын
While I do somewhat like the idea of a big Buzzard on a tank, as an NC player who plays NC for the "futuristic human tech" theme, I really wanted a big Railjack on a tank. My dream has always been a big Railjack Vanguard with the Paladin topgun. But NS get the Railjack-lite and the Paladin has been iceboxed. RIP I feel like they just weren't innovative enough with these designs. The Prowler is getting their normal burst gun but even burstier, when they could have gotten like missile launchers (with dumbfire and homing modes enabled). The Chimera got a very interesting new gun, but that new tank ability is just a rip-off the old Vanguard Shield which was reworked for a reason. The VS got basically an upsized Slicer, which itself was already a questionable design, when they could have gotten something like a continual-beam laser weapon. And the NC just get an AP gun which is even more AP (bigger damage, longer reload) when it could have gotten something like a Railjack with its delayed-fire but high-velocity mechanic (say, a 500ms or even 1 second fire delay).
@taerkasten5090
Жыл бұрын
As an NC Player only, ill support your idea of a railgun for the vanguard, some time ago the devs published an secondary for the vanguard, but am think than that guy wrel scrapped the the new secondaries, don't know what the devs are in their ideas but sadly the vanguard offensive power as been reduced, and need to be balanced again.
@srg.graphouni6628
2 жыл бұрын
TR: We need more dakka for our tank! Wrel slaps two more barrels on prowler. NC got trash lobbing cannon, too slow, too long reload. VS got a pea shooter. NSO got a "Get the f#@k down from there!" gun against Prowlers and Magriders.
@georgestain2803
2 жыл бұрын
time showed us that alpha dmg and hard hitting guns are best thing you can get in planetside. NC get that yet again...
@srg.graphouni6628
2 жыл бұрын
@@georgestain2803 you are comparing a 50 bmg subsonic bolt action against a minigun. TR got the biggest stick right now in tank vs tank. This new artillery gun has the shitties muzzle velocity and largest ark, good luck hitting anything non stationary further than point blank.
@Cooldude-ko7ps
2 жыл бұрын
The NC one would be better if the devs added some kind of artillery sight to make the “artillery” part work better.
@iller3
2 жыл бұрын
@@Cooldude-ko7ps A Light-assault laser spotting "Tool" would be even better though for actual Squads (y'know... the people who DON'T spend all day soloing)
@dalentces2492
2 жыл бұрын
NC cannon, just like the anti-damage bubble that is now used offensively rather than defensively, will quickly find it's niche carved by users, not intended by devs. And by niche I mean "short range burst weapon with DPS of an immobilzed Prowler but mounted on a moving platform with much higher effective HP".
@PatrixBest
Жыл бұрын
"It's a railgun" - *Angry NC noises* "It has no bullet drop" -*Angry VS noises* "It has fast reload" -*Angry TR noises*
@Huvy_Huevy
Жыл бұрын
-Happy NSO noises
@anonymouslt2811
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if it has slow reload nor it's about Velocity NC has best flank Long range sunderer destroyer all that matters And for VS they should have given some sort of Enforcer ML85 Cannon that would have been cool good for killing infantry or aircraft 🤷 similar of some sorts
@rangerunner6274
2 жыл бұрын
6:38 EMOTINAL DAMAGE!
@noble_lemon
2 жыл бұрын
the gimmick that can save VS cannon is a gravitational punch on explosion that can kick infantry at 10-15 meters or even make sunderer to roll over.
@braixendon5496
2 жыл бұрын
No because then it would be broken
@noble_lemon
2 жыл бұрын
@@braixendon5496 broken in meaning of balance or broken in meaning of engine mechanics? techically its possible, the main question is a power of punch, this can be sorted out. at this time seems we have only 2 choices: boring poor weapon or broken broken. the easyest way is just make dps higher but then it will be just another clone of usual gun with unnecessary gimmick.
@braixendon5496
2 жыл бұрын
@@noble_lemon imo, if it has a concussion effect that can affect vehicles as well as infantry it would be a bit too powerful. I think so at least
@noble_lemon
2 жыл бұрын
@@braixendon5496 i mean the impulse like from impulse grenades or when orbital link explodes.
@braixendon5496
2 жыл бұрын
@@noble_lemon oh shit yeah i meant to say impulse not concussion, forgor 💀 the word there… But yes, imo impulse explosions as a main gun is kinda scary
@mathiasvernet763
2 жыл бұрын
VS getting their empire specific kneecapped once again for the incredible benefits that are piercing INFANTRY (so useful for a tank lol) and no bullet drop....YAY
@missk1697
2 жыл бұрын
Vote with your wallet and kneecap daybreak's income. Maybe THAT will actually teach them to respect the ENTIRETY of playerbase, not just one or two factions.
@avaliantsoul5408
2 жыл бұрын
dont forget the tank that floats on water at its normal speed (also allowing it to fire while traversing water) and can also scale mountains and some buildings in order to better fire upon infantry. I know that there's always gonna be bitching about "this faction OP" in a 3-way asymmetricly-balanced shooter, but VS really takes the cake. Have you considered switching factions to a faction that has a trait you DO like? Because there's two other factions, and there's plenty of VS players who like their traits, myself included.
@mathiasvernet763
2 жыл бұрын
@@avaliantsoul5408 Floating on water is a downside. You can't take cover underwater on Oshur
@avaliantsoul5408
2 жыл бұрын
@@mathiasvernet763 you cant take cover underwater either if the pilot shooting you has half a brain. except underwater, you cant shoot back. plus, you move slower underwater. and are susceptible to C4 should infantry drop on top of you. Sundies cant sink, so TR & NC armor columns are split above and below, leaving the sundies on their own while their accompanying MBTs and Lightnings are stuck below, unable to engage attackers.
@BattlebornReapers
2 жыл бұрын
No bullet drop is a huge w for the Maggy, going to make for some interesting trickshots.
@unicoeveroFaro
2 жыл бұрын
prowler with the new cannon + gatekeeper. so many barrels!
@lellamas2778
Жыл бұрын
I wanna see the TR Prowler memes of barrels in all directions
@Zero118
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't look like NSO has its own identity, just taking things. No bullet drop from vanu, tank shield from NC as well as a piercing effect and railgun. Just the havok rounds would have been neat, don't understand the reason for giving it an NC shield as well instead of something more unique.
@NormanNormalman
2 жыл бұрын
Wrel out here making sure nobody ever calls VS overpowered ever again.
@HateMachinist
2 жыл бұрын
You sure? Because that reload-speed means 3 shots fired for every 2? Except kingsnakes meme-tier dakka.
@NormanNormalman
2 жыл бұрын
@@HateMachinist it’s an undeniable improvement in DPS over their other options which is definitely great, but the ‘piercing infantry’ gimmick seems overdone and makes no sense on an AV. toss that in with its sub-par velocity and i can’t imagine this thing fitting in without denial and effort. it might serve better as a HESH though, with the 1HKO against infantry. it’s hardly a bad weapon but it’s a joke compared to these other new cannons.
@HateMachinist
2 жыл бұрын
@@NormanNormalman yeah it does look like it needs a buff i agree. But maggies win by controlling the engagement, flanking and terrain-abuse. So adding a no-drop weapon with fast reload like that, which can also farm infantry? We might get surprised by that one.
@NormanNormalman
2 жыл бұрын
@@HateMachinist Yeah. i’m hoping it works way better in live than it does on test, maybe they’ll have mercy on that… way too harsh velocity penalty. i think either way, even if it’s not better than the FPC i foresee this thing farming the hell out of sunderers and big fights. i just wish VS didn’t suffer so much for their extra gimmicks. this thing is my favorite of the bunch but it’s a sidegrade at best right now.
@tacticalturtlez4906
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like VS and NC got screwed over with this one. NC basically got the a deformed copy of the ap, meanwhile vs got a unique but fairly useless sniper rifle. NSO is basically just taking over NCs thing.
@ChopSueyyy
2 жыл бұрын
At least NC got a mediocre one like VS this time instead of getting the best deal again
@RoyAnderson
Жыл бұрын
NSO is also taking over the VS’ thing. I mean, now NSO has no-bullet drop weapons, which is literally the faction-specific trait for VS.
@reveahlem3226
2 жыл бұрын
It feels like people have been complaining about the VS being op for so long that they decided to just kill this faction, look at the Beetlejuice and directive weapons for example, where they were and where they are now.
@Igor369
2 жыл бұрын
What is that? You want more darkstar nerfs? We got you pal.
@TheZectorian
2 жыл бұрын
*Sad Vanu noises*
@BattlebornReapers
2 жыл бұрын
Gets a nerf finally and complains for months...relax. The VS guns are still op
@DaxMarko
2 жыл бұрын
I see this phenomenon in every playerbase. Players get used to OP weapons without any care in the world, and when the said weapons get nerfed fair and square, they suddenly have to use more skill, which is below their inflated standard, thus leading to complaining. Also, Beetlejuice was BUFFED, and then the following nerf did NOT revert the buff.
@addmen96
2 жыл бұрын
@@BattlebornReapers Majority of VS arsenal were and still are trash compared to other factions. Faction specific sniper, basilisk, anti material and others...they're trash nobody uses. Consistently lowest faction pop even before arsenal update
@maelstromeous
2 жыл бұрын
Well the VS got shafted yet again... this is becoming a theme at this point. God I hope these numbers aren't final.
@sansgaster4877
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, TR with and so the best such got a weapon of mass annihilation, NC has a strong gun, but it is useless at a distance of more than 80 meters, due to the fact that NC tanks are slow, and the gun shoots not far and slowly it's just garbage, NSO got a sniper rifle and now they will camp, and everyone and so the campers from TR were infuriating, and they just spat in vanu, it feels like none of those who did this update ever played for a tank
@Alastair_
Жыл бұрын
@@sansgaster4877 They don't, none of the devs are armour players and the team is led by Wrel, a LA main. After using all these new guns in combat, the VS's gun is a joke, long reload plus charge means you will lose any straight up fight often before you've even got a second volley off, NC gun has massive drop off but once learned, is very powerful, Prowler is now broken beyond repair, Kingsnake plus Gatekeeper can essentially one tap other MBT's and the NSO gun is actually pretty good but it really encourages sitting miles away from the enemy and sniping, a couple of Chimeras with this gun can wreck enemy armour at 1000 meters, still though, it's on a Chimera, easily the worst MBT in the game.
@glitchreloaded1284
Жыл бұрын
As a certified angry toaster, I am VERY happy about these tank changes, time to climb a hill and snipe anything that DARES enter my range, I do feel like VS got the short end of the stick again
@CKwolf741
2 жыл бұрын
Someone pulled a Bastion on the PTS while I was on my NSO messing around. Holy. Shit. The amount of damage you can do to Bastions that are greedily sitting still farming at Nason's is absurd. You will absolutely melt them on your own. Not to mention if you have a squad of these. I think it's only 9 shots to kill a Module? Even in a Lightning, you can still do meaningful damage to them. These are all welcome weapons. I'm just curious to see how they work out on the live servers if they are added as is. Also worth mentioning, the Chimera & Lightning Larion's do not pierce construction buildings / shields. They act as environment and the round stops when they hit. You can however, pierce infantry/vehicles and still hit modules/spawn tubes etc.
@CAMIKAZE78
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to know there's some effectiveness against a Bastion with this thing, cheers for the heads up mate!
@xxFireaxx
2 жыл бұрын
I hope all factions here get reworked. every weapon is either under performant or OP. NSO seems to have no counters outside light assault c4 spam now that their buffed with the NC shield. they make the colossus useless. (why go through the effort to build a bastion killer when you and 3 buds can spawn endless mini colossus?) NC seems to be a wip more then a finished product considering the model of the cannon, and its intended playstyle is not suited to its special ability or the default camera. can be fun if adjusted. the TR actually seems the most balanced, maybe abit strong, but now they cant shoot around corners as 2 out of the 4 cannons will miss. same with the lightning. and the poor VS. magriders are already annoying, but if they instead made the cutter beam wider, and pierce 2 or 3 infantry, it would be a good crowd controller.
@violenceandpoetry
2 жыл бұрын
So NSO is violating NC's patent on the tank shield, so there's that...
@matchesburn
2 жыл бұрын
7:45 "It has no bullet drop..." "Can pierce through multiple vehicles/targets..." "One of the fastest projectile speeds..." [Gif of Vince McMahon getting more and more excited] Be right back, dusting off my NSO account.
@Kreasddjb
2 жыл бұрын
Guys don't write things like "i am glad that i left this game". I just stareted and i don't want the game to die, though i see many irritating problems like unskilled cloakers. Also the fact that i am Vanu follower doesnt make things easier considering this video. But please, don't leave, lets keep the game alive cuz hell we are not getting anything like that in the future, we will only have typical boring battlefield games each year
@mauriciofreitas3384
2 жыл бұрын
Totally with you on this one. Been playing since 2015, don't plan to leave any time soon. The game is fun, why leave just because of 1 crappy gun? (Technically 3 in a row) If you're having fun, why would you care? I main VS and NC, i can say that magrider has a much higher skill ceiling than other tanks. To be honest, the game is in a much better position balance-wise than it was before. However it's not quite there. People bitching about everything doesn't solve anything :/
@mjkoo5365
Жыл бұрын
Two words, Foxhole
@Michael_MW
Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd fight side by side with a Xenophile, but I agree. Now do the TR proud and pay your taxes citizen.
@FriendlyCreeeper
2 жыл бұрын
i still dont understand why the NC turret wasn't a railgun turret; i thought the weapons for NC were themed around "experimental" and gauss/rail-related weapons, especially cause their infiltrators get a railgun sniper so it would fit the faction theme
@TomasWatchReviews
2 жыл бұрын
Larion is going to be epic. Does not look impressive on paper, but that quick reload with no drop is going to be a game changer.
@TyvNeedsHelp
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly if instead of using the aphelion type projectile they would have treated the Perihelion like a lancer essentially, it would have been a lot better than...this, but VS OP, I guess.
@Arashmickey
2 жыл бұрын
Anti-repair, piercing through multiple enemies, neat. No setting vehicle on fire yet? Also gives fire suppression an additional use case.
@greyed
2 жыл бұрын
Curious, does Havoc work against PBs? If so, did the NSO weapon just become the PB killer?
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
@@greyed I'm having a brainfart right now what's a PB again? Player base?
@xendordawnburst9969
2 жыл бұрын
3:33 In the wise words of TheRussianBadger, "I don't care what it's designed to do, I care about what it *can* do!"
@PennyTheGoblin
2 жыл бұрын
I unironically use the LA7 buzzard on the flash for shelling player bases, so I might use this new NC MBT cannon for lobbing shots over those walls. I’ll probably still use standard AP for actual tank fights, but this new chunky lad could be great for a base-buster loadout. This VS gun, though…. I can already see being an annoyance at infantry choke points. It’ll just be like HESH-spamming at a door, but with the right angle, you can get people on the other side of the room. Honestly, the piercing of the VS and NSO cannons should probably be limited to 1-2 targets, with an optional ammunition attachment that gives it infinite piercing at the cost of damage.
@strikeforce1500
2 жыл бұрын
Ya know, it might had take.. A decade long, but, ya know, I gotta give it the team for finally adding things that had been in the game files, but not usable, since launch back in 2012. From Bastion through Colossus now this, its great... With that said, I do agree that VS need something new as an ES trait, since the whole "no bullet drop" NSO basically stole it from them, as well as NC rail weaponry lol Now, RPG, where my Railcannon for Vanguard?
@ethandye8764
Жыл бұрын
NC: Giant artillery TR: 2x the best turret, and gives it to the lightning NSO: stops healing and hits anything behind its target VS: lol bigger garbage sniper VS already feels like the weakest faction, thanks daybreak
@Broil_N_Oil
Жыл бұрын
Being a VS main, I think it's time to dust of the TR and start maining TR.
@Genesis8537
2 жыл бұрын
VS lightning cannon can ohk esfs with no bullet drop where the NSOs lightning cannon cant. Thats the only upside i found.
@HateMachinist
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the NSO needs to coordinate fire, but with 350 m/s hitting twice won't be too hard? VS wins on raw DPS though, because the reload seems pretty brutal.
@jimbeere5328
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they add new empire specific voice lines
@MikMoen
2 жыл бұрын
Good lord. They really gave the Prowler ANOTHER two barrels. I'm already dreading HMRD's armor balls.
@LethargicShaman
2 жыл бұрын
So sad seeing where VS is going (as a VS main). Slicer feels so bad already in comparison to the other empire specific anti-material rifles and now we got this crap for a cannon... I took a break from PS2 but seeing this really makes me not want to come back at all. I don't have much hope that they will improve the vehicle weapons as they haven't improved/changed the Slicer either.
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
That's because VS infantry is so good use that to your advantage. I recently started playing VC and its like night and day how good the infantry weapons are. Many have fire rate higher than the TR while having higher damage per shot as well plus no bullet drop? Jesus Christ I thought I was playing COD for a second.
@herocommand
Жыл бұрын
oh boohoo the spandex wearing ''what is recoil and bullet drop'' faction gets shit vehicles. it's not like your infantry dominate or anything like that right ? You guys play the infantry game in easy mode stop complaining about getting fuck all in vehicles.
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
@@herocommand Hell there ESF is OP as all fuck
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
I was actually hopping to get a giant chain gun for the TR weapon.
@matthewfechter3317
2 жыл бұрын
That NC weapons sounds cool, but as we found with the artillery flash weapon they gave the NC a few years ago, I bet they don't work well against maneuvering enemy. They'd need to way up the splash damage to make artillery a thing.
@greyed
2 жыл бұрын
So, NCs now can bombard PBs over a ridgeline? :D
@matthewfechter3317
2 жыл бұрын
@@greyed I mean, this is what this weapons sounds like it could do, but in practice I doubt it will be that effective at any indirect fire application. The Artillery on the Flash almost never gets used, and when it does, its in direct fire mode, rarely as indirect fire. I suspect the same for this new Vanguard weapon.
@noble_lemon
2 жыл бұрын
to shoot in artillery style you will need the vertical angle meter to understand what distance corresponds to the selected angle. thats why the sweeper hud need to be updated
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
just add a tool for infiltrators to paint targets and let the guns aim themselves
@noble_lemon
Жыл бұрын
@@happyjohn354 that laser guide from bf3?
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
@@noble_lemon Yup
@physetermacrocephalus2209
2 жыл бұрын
VS crescent round should be chargeable and thr crescent gets larger thr longer you charge it up
@rareraven
2 жыл бұрын
Oe YES
@ToonLinkah
2 жыл бұрын
Or expands over the course of its lifetime. Make it into a wave weapon with pinpoint damage close and spread out damage the futher it goes
@verdtre4573
2 жыл бұрын
Please no, chargeup felt so bad on it when it was still the top gun concept. Magrider pilots have enough to worry about, fuck charging up too.
@rareraven
2 жыл бұрын
@@verdtre4573 good point. Maybe we can decrease that reload time, I'd be fine with it as is. I can snipe infantry with this.
@FulfillMyWill
2 жыл бұрын
So no railgun cannon for Vanguard again (the model of which was in the game for a long time files IIRC).
@missk1697
2 жыл бұрын
So you are telling me VS got shafted on yet *AGAIN?!* Firstly with Phariah, then with Slicer, now with that gunk tank cannon? At this point, I absolutely do not regret leaving this game. Those devs really can't into fair balance...
@msbradley9
2 жыл бұрын
Cry more vs. Theyre just making sure that your faction doesnt rely on cheese as its faction specific trait
@chettonex
2 жыл бұрын
Again? Bro, all VS infantry weapons became a beast with the arsenal update. Just check the usage time and kdr of weapons like the betel in stats sites.
@missk1697
2 жыл бұрын
@@chettonex 1. sis 2. betel is a directive weapon, if i recall correctly. Which means it's just a toy for the most advanced players. Slicer, on the other hand, can be bought day-1 with dbc.
@missk1697
2 жыл бұрын
@@msbradley9 Cry? Bitch please, I don't care about your little game anymore. See how daybreak finances will cry if they keep shafting on large portion of their playerbase, lmao.
@Igor369
2 жыл бұрын
@@msbradley9 Which cheese can VS do that other factions can not? Yeah magriders can get into spots other tanks can not but first of all it requries effort and skill and second of all it almost never impacts the actual fights.
@AvalancheZ250
2 жыл бұрын
It also doesn't make much sense why the slow firing NC Lightning JDX11 can't OHK non-Flak infantry. I feel like that ought to be buffed slightly (like, buff the total damage from 950 to like 1000, so it can't kill non-Flak infantry with Aux Shield), given how the AP gun on the Lightning can OHK non-Flak infantry even with Aux Shield.
@birdmonster4586
2 жыл бұрын
I'm an vanu main, and although I hate the Magrider, I didn't mind the gun so much. But TR and NSO were clear winners this time.
@rareraven
2 жыл бұрын
Vanu main. I love the magrider and I am an absolute surgeon with those cannons, but this thing... man.. Imma snipe me some fukkers, believe you me.
@animeloverdom6105
2 жыл бұрын
A shame PS4 is missing out. I wish they hired more people to focus on us ps4 players... we didn't even get the summer event this year :(
@Diseptibots
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@incoherentpanda4925
2 жыл бұрын
Buy more bundles
@animeloverdom6105
2 жыл бұрын
@@incoherentpanda4925 I got most of them already, I'm talking about new content to bring players back
@jaytrashwade1-1
2 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree
@incoherentpanda4925
2 жыл бұрын
@@animeloverdom6105 LORD WREL DEMANDS IT
@anwaranu8700
2 жыл бұрын
Well ig auraxis gonna see a lot of red shells moving through the air.
@MrCoffiee
2 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, speaking as a VS main, I am SO glad I left this abusive relationship with PS2 and their braindead balancing team after the slicer was released (and honestly, I was very tempted to leave after the arsenal update with how badly VS got shafted then, but the Zenith+UA+LS+SB combo provided a modicum of fun for me at the time)... Seriously, continuing to main VS at this point and play this unbalanced-hell of a game would've just been the sunk cost fallacy.
@DeyonOttervenBur
2 жыл бұрын
I am so disappointed with what they are doing to VS...
@allanzhang4082
2 жыл бұрын
Even I'm still playing this game right now, I have to admit their balancing crew is brain dead, last time was NC's AA gun, and this time is another completely unbalanced design (btw I have to say I HATE Newton as well, completely brain dead design compare with other araux guns in the game)
@TheHuffur
2 жыл бұрын
As another fellow VS 'main' I 100% agree with you though I have not exactly left the game entirely, I take breaks every now and then... but I have more or less left the VS faction entirely and play NSO with a sprinkle of TR/NC. Long before I gave up on VS, years even, I had already given up on the Magrider so its not really a surprise to me how utterly shafted it got with these new weapons either. Though it is a little surprising just in a "How can they be this stupid?" kind of way even if it was expected that VS would once again be the worst vehicle faction in the game just as it was expected that NC would get a powerful gun that inevitably loses to braindead TR supremacy.
@samyt681
Жыл бұрын
Its a tradition for VS to get the worst one
@Sebastianooooooooo
Жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna say: flying/hover tanks.
@samyt681
Жыл бұрын
@@Sebastianooooooooo cope
@minikilla3568
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to know the robo boys are still getting some juicy stuff
@ranvorkvartec7358
Жыл бұрын
Engineer: Tr what upgrade you want? TR: MORE DAKKA!
@ForeGoneProduction
2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the new weapons is that they're balanced around the MBT. I don't think the Vanu weapon is bad - it has pretty good DPS actually, but the Lightning versions are just watered down versions, completely disregarding the fact that Lightnings are the same, no matter the faction. So for example a Magrider with its new weapon makes sense, but the new weapon completely fails for Lightnings, as there are way too many downsides in comparison to the AP / HEAT / Viper / ...
@sansgaster4877
2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
Use it to farm infantry its better than HESH.
@josephjohnson5415
2 жыл бұрын
NSO got the overall best deal but that wont matter to the the platoon of prowlers that can sit outside warpgate and clear the skies. Just imagine emerald's Warpigs all sporting 4 shot guns. There will be no vehicle game left as your only way to win is not confront the mass line of DPS. I don't even know what that NC cannon is, I thought it was supposed to be a mortar but it looks more like they just got a better version of Vanu Heat? NC do you want some Vanu bullet drop with a larger indirect damage? NO? too bad! A high arcing mortar that shoots armor on the other side like skorpion rounds would have at least been niche. Sadly VS, definitely nothing I wanted. The glowly spinny disk looks cute, I'll name them "Useless". Go Useless and tickle the enemy! I always though what Vanu needed was a cutting laser for CQC, A heat mechanic 3-4 sec 40-60 meter laser that would reward sneaking up on enemies and getting really close. But since we got "Useless" what they need is to increase the size of the disk to better mow down infantry and give it the pass thru armor too. Because why use that over the current AP rounds.
@deepfriedshekels
2 жыл бұрын
As a warpig myself i already know that is boutta happen
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
Oh ya how's PaleTiger doing nowadays? Haven't seen him in like a year.
@ownagemester
Жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight, they gave the NSO tank the Railgun, the old Vanguard shield and it can block repairs? Yeah seems like they are jacking our style!
@exmerion
2 жыл бұрын
The VS cannon is essentially a Sunderer farming weapon.
@ChopSueyyy
2 жыл бұрын
Feels like it has one use on the maggie and this is it. Sitting on a hill, killing deployed sunderers. Sad part is that that can also be done with the standard AP, i mean, the sundy isnt moving.
@exmerion
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChopSueyyy increased efficiency from slicing through the engineers and other spawns.
@Blacksmith__
2 жыл бұрын
The NSO one should not have no projectile drop. The Kingsnake should probably reload slower. The VS weapon should probably get a damage bump if they're going to keep the projectiles slow
@nominatorchris5591
2 жыл бұрын
Yup the speed plus no projectile drop just feels like hitscan at a certain point
@velnias6896
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'd love to see these on console but that probably won't happen for ~3 years. As for the Magriders, my condolences. They should just go ahead and program in the Magriders to stick to any surface so now we'll have spider mags sitting upside down waiting to ambush people as often as they end up in random spots anyways.
@monsterdude2517
2 жыл бұрын
So basically TR gets all the OP stuff again (a.k.a. vulcan), while everyone get funny-looking bubble guns. Thx, Wrel
@sherrykathman3309
Жыл бұрын
I would love to one day see dedicated artillery vehicles. Especially if they are empire specific. I would want them to be large, slow, have no real armor, have to deploy to shoot, but for it to be able to shoot at targets from long ranges, maybe even behind obstacles depending on the projectile firing arc. You could have anti armor shells with minimal splash, but extremely high damage, and anti infantry shots that would have a large splash damage, but weak damage. It might sound a little OP, but with the super weak armor, even a pistol would be able to damage it. And an ESF with rockets would probable be able to make short work of them. Plus light assaults with C4 would have a field day with killing them. Even just the rocklet rifle would be deadly to them, especially with how slow they would be and how slow they would undeploy. I doubt they would be nearly as deadly as having a Bastion hanging overhead shelling a target. Lol.
@dartagnan1954
2 жыл бұрын
Planet side is getting lot of love lately which is great
@Tweldenza
2 жыл бұрын
Oh no... crappy empire specific gear for VS again... who could have seen that coming -.-
@missing_5_7_89
2 жыл бұрын
as a VS main ill do not support daybreak again, cuz wrel is treating us like shit
@missk1697
2 жыл бұрын
Very good! Do not give them a broken penny until they start treating us with respect.
@theneef174
2 жыл бұрын
Cami, iirc the vs one has better ttk than the ap...and yet doesn't even have the reload upgrades, meaning that'll get *even better.*
@musicalzinin7172
2 жыл бұрын
I happy to see this became a thing, thanks for the review hope to see you on the battlefield!
@dalentces2492
2 жыл бұрын
It seems the balance team philosophy isn't "let's make balanced arsenal so everyone can enjoy this game". It's actually "VS was unbalanced for years thanks to Higby, so now they have to be the UP faction for equal amount of time".
@hightiernub1313
6 ай бұрын
What the VS weapon should've been is a continuous beam weapon that will melt down armor and infantry or a really long 5 second charge that can one shot Lightnings or 2 shot MBTs.
@BongRipBing
2 жыл бұрын
BRUH!!! Perihelion is like the Slasher 2.0!!! What bullshit!!!
@herrmutz
2 жыл бұрын
"These things are on the test server and subject to change...." i am looking at you masthead
@cloakkydd
2 жыл бұрын
NC should've gotten a railgun(with pen) or a scattergun(shotgun).
@avlaenamnell6994
2 жыл бұрын
i wanted a AC main cannon like the trawler upscaled.
@avlaenamnell6994
2 жыл бұрын
NSo got what the NC should of got. :( and the NC lightning one feels weak as it cant even direct kill a infantry like its AP cannon, i can see it being good on the vanguard maybe though. And the vanguards barrel is too big and clips through its hull so much.
@Markfr0mCanada
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, access to more niche weapons on the tank would be a far better ASP perk than a discount. The discount to me feels like the wrong perk for the wrong people, vets shouldn't need it.
@davecrupel2817
Жыл бұрын
The Parahelions should have been expanding. Meaning the wave gradually widens flat-wise as it travels. Can touch any amount of targets it encompasses, but its damage is divided up by the number of targets it hits. Catch: If it hits an obstacle before its target, its damage is dropped by 90% due to overstretching the plasma wave. Strength: open area damage distribution. Weakness: precision targeting.
@TimberwolfCY
2 жыл бұрын
There has to be an offset for the Magriders absolutely unmatched positional capabilities. The fact it can strafe at range prevents a lot of counter-fire, and that it can essentially climb mountains means that during an organic fight it is basically untargetable by other armor. The fact it's weapon is somewhat weak by comparison seems a reasonable offset....though I'll agree the new weapon definitely lacks any sort of real flair. For its Lightning counterpart I have to say too that because it lacks the Magrider's definitive mobility, those gun offsets will hurt it much worse.
@ivannegrozni7692
2 жыл бұрын
hahahahah funny farting into space... the magrider is such a good tank that the vanu faction hardly uses it? or because the tank is shit? you all praise the magrider so much, but in reality, the tang is shit that almost always loses to all enemies. up the mountain and shoot from afar. because nothing else remains so weak this tank on the battlefield. just look at how many tanks of which faction are always on the battlefield and it becomes clear that the magrider is shit.
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
@@ivannegrozni7692 You need to "get gud" the Magrider is difficult starting out but once you learn it its easily one of the hardest to kill tanks in the game.
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
I would have though something like a lightning gun would be cool an anti infantry weapon that arcs between clustered infantry.
@ivannegrozni7692
Жыл бұрын
@@happyjohn354 magrider will still remain a difficult tank in the game, you just learn how to use it. but other tanks are still much easier to use. it still won’t become better than others. on a magrider tank, even in simple situations, you need to think about how to get around its shortcomings. as I wrote earlier, the magrider has strong advantages over others, but also the same strong disadvantages.
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
@@ivannegrozni7692 Its called having a high entry and skill celling ya its hard to get into it at first but once you master it you can do much better than the other tanks
@moxnixgaming9591
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it is because I'm not super experienced driving the Mag, but using the new no drop weapon made it significantly easier for me to hit targets while moving evasively - and while I agree it is the weakest of the current new offerings, I actually quite liked it and will be using it on both the Mag and Lightning even if it doesn't get buffed. Also I feel like you glossed over it quite quickly, but the new NSO ability feels extremely strong, namely because of it's super short CD of only 20 seconds. The shield lets you eat a full barage from your enemy, and your Havok could put you up another if it negates their healing. This means you are essentially starting every 1v1 either up 1 or 2 shots.
@Xytan_Jar_Wattinree
2 жыл бұрын
ok one thing i never manage to get a clear response on, for a TR Prowler is each round shot worth 350 damage for the new gun or is that accumilated damage if all 4 rounds hit. feels like its still gonna be a brick that has no HP and has to become a building before being able to do any serious damage .
@braixendon5496
2 жыл бұрын
Its 350 damage EACH so thats 1400 dmg per volley, but it has a long reload time with the chance of missing/hitting terrain on a barrel or two which significantly reduces its dps Luckily it is a very good cannon so im not complaining
@Frost87112
2 жыл бұрын
the last good thing i've got as VS was to add heat mechanics into my Revenant.
@elliottgaal9774
2 жыл бұрын
This is an cool update. I look forward to trying the dakka snakes I am only sad that pilot pistols are no longer caseless.
@thejunkmanlives
2 жыл бұрын
the nc and nso weapons looked like they were swapped. chimera looks like it will be a lot more competitive now. but the best thing out of this is the lighting weapons. ns platforms need more faction flavor, hopefully they continue this trend with the rest of them.
@greyed
2 жыл бұрын
Granted. I love my lightning, but the only one of the batch I think I'd take is the TR. To me the lightning is the edge of the fight, stick and move, sundie spawn hunter. The NC version feels like it is for a much slower form of play, a Vanguard style of ply. VS doesn't really mesh with that since the DPS is too low. And NSO might work, but again, DPS suffers. It takes a lot to dethrone the C75 for that role. C75 - 333 dps JGX11 - 187 dps L2-100 - 400 dps LPPC - 222 dps L-VXC - 240 dps And just to complete the anti-vehicle comparison. L100 AP - 233 dps L100 HEAT - 230 dps Like Cami said, the L2-100 meshes the best with the Lightning chassis. The other 3 guns are at odds with the Lightning. Not saying they're bad, or don't have some use, but as a general case for faction specific flair, they don't beat the stock options.
@akaroth7542
Жыл бұрын
I miss the old tank damage and velocity models. The main problem planetgaem has was/is base design and lake of useful vehicle objectives. Instead they nerfed tanks. Thanks for the overview.
@msbradley9
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for some new tank guns for a while. And while im kinda sad that the Prowler didnt get missle pod silos just for fun. 4 cannons is also pretty good. Maybe NC wont win every single tank engagement anymore
@jimbeere5328
2 жыл бұрын
They should add a mortal gun for tanks
@midrovar5811
2 жыл бұрын
hahaha, still the vanguard shield is very much capable
@AvalancheZ250
2 жыл бұрын
@@midrovar5811 The Chimera will probably win most 1v1s now, given that its getting basically the old Vanguard Shield but on a 20 second cooldown (so potentially it could even be used twice in a single, extended tank duel in areas with lots of cover, like Hossin swamps). No tank can shred through 2000 HP in 2.5 seconds, so it will practically act as invincibility for 2.5 seconds and can also be used to survive 2 C4 bricks from infantry, something which no other MBT can currently do. Not to mention that the Chimera can additionally have HA's with rocket launchers on the tank itself to turbo-charge its damage output, although at that point it should win given the larger amount of players (2-6 man tank vs 2 man tank; former should always win). The Vanguard will lose its niche as the dominant close range brawler tank while the Chimera can also do long-range thanks to the Larion being a dropless high-velocity sniper. I know people have been shitting on the Chimera for ages, but that doesn't mean it should then become the strongest and versatile tank in the game.
@midrovar5811
Жыл бұрын
@@AvalancheZ250 vanguard will still win, the chimera shield only stays for 2 seconds the shield should tank atleast 1 shot before going down in any tank fight, and vanguard shield is 8 vanguard can survive C4 with the proper armor i never saw someone using the rumble seats in the chimera we still have to see how things will go on the live server
@mikehorsley2835
Жыл бұрын
I thought the Larion made a tank a mini-Colossus, and now I know that is the case. The other day a Bastion sat there focusing on a target long enough that I took out two of its side hardpoints from a distance.
@nilsonbarros680
2 жыл бұрын
Magrider always disadvantaged, 4 shots to destroy 1 harasser
@happyjohn354
Жыл бұрын
That's because your using it wrong its an ambush vehicle that can go where any other ground vehicle cannot... And if you do engage conventionally you need to use the strafing as you can dodge enemy fire while keeping your gun on them with your heaviest armor facing them.
@specialone6731
2 жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous how OP are they trying to make these
@Red_R4ven
Жыл бұрын
I get a feeling they are starting to go back to Planetside 1 roots.. Actually thinking of installing again. Whats next? Interplenetary Lattice System?
@sansgaster4877
Жыл бұрын
I hope at this rate we will soon have mechs
@johndane9754
2 жыл бұрын
1:50 Finally some self propelled artillery.
@Nekarion
2 жыл бұрын
so ye to sum it up for me on a first thought NC got a neat "we shoot just above the ridge while fully in cover" TR well DAKKA of course, nothing wrong with that NS in the first moment i thought "hey they took the VS Slicer and make it the same but for machines" until the later part of the vid nothings wrong with an tank ability, yes. VS well yes once again: just why? the only good part about the Slicer is the missing bullet drop, which would been on it even with an other special mechanic since VS, and now they just put it 1:1 on the MBT? nice low effort thinking there. i'd also assume that the splash dmg also only apply when the projectile hits a vehicle or ground? which would mean i can only oneshot infantry when they are right beside it or only shoot at infantry with something that stops the projectile. only first thoughts we'll see how they turn out
@Nekarion
Жыл бұрын
So i just hopped in the game after a while today and saw the weapons did drop at some point and i have to say I'm quite happy how they changed the Vanu weapon into a charge one. Even though there seems to be no dmg difference between shooting single three times or the charged tripple, at least not me testing in VR training against frontal Vanguard, the ability to hold the charge, unlike the Lancer, makes it an incredible synergy with the Magriders flank potential. On the downside to achieve the tripple burst you have an incredible long charge time so you better hit all three shots or rely on slower dps single shots and in both cases you got that medicore reload speed of 3.5 seconds. On that note i feel it's rather balanced because even if you have that incredible burst those gigantic plasma? blades are really easy to spot and after you reloaded you're either down to single shots or, if you decide to take that long range flank f.e, you disengage to charge again which obviously gives the opponent a somewhat good time to relocate, repair and/or fight back and to calm your mind, that burst does roughly the same as damage the Kingsnake, 25 dmg less without any modifiers. At anti infantry it excels against it's counterparts but i'm not sure overall, the blade shape gives it a very big horizontal hitbox which makes it easy to hit but even then i couldn't even oneshot an Infiltrator wit a head shot in VR training so in any case you'll need at least two shots to kill infantry with direct hits. Sure the three round magazine makes it less punishing but you have that 3.5 second reload, always, and if you shot two on infantry and forget to actively reload you're left with one shot which probably brings you happy vehicle noises from your next opponent. for the Kingsnake it's still: DAKKA. which is great which is nice, i somewhat wished they would have like bring it down to two two-time bursts, or at least an alternative fire mode, which would make it more versatile. I mean two cannons on each side - you know where I'm coming from. Aside from that it's really what you expect for TR, am happy with that. NC well DMG is great and that's what you get & love while having the only gun which indirect dmg applies on vehicles is interesting in itself but you have to know that to not ask yourself why the lightning variant has more direct dmg than the MBT one :D NS okay yes there is a higher dmg option there but dude ti be able to shot through an armor convoy and snipe down that low hp tank taking cover behind others is an Incredible ability so ye now i really like ALL of the new MBT weapons, thanks for having me
@ChopSueyyy
2 жыл бұрын
The VS one feels like the NSO gun, but bad. If the shot pierces infantry without delivering the indirect damage payload, then you can ignore the indirect damage because you will rarely hit a player and also a close enough wall to deliver the additional damage. In the end, it just deals less damage and has less muzzle velocity. Its weird. It has an ability for anti infantry, but lacks the damage there to benefit from it and other traits that actually makes it best for long distance anti tank stuff get diminished by the lower muzzle velocity. Its a bundle of contradicting stats. Either go for anti infantry sniping and make the shot explode with every planetman hit, or increase the muzzle velocity. Either way, the gun feels like it has an identity crisis right now. The only redeeming factor is the DPS with the fast reload speed, which weirdly makes the gun more cqc than it looks like.
@Aspartame69
Жыл бұрын
I just got a first shot to the rear of a lightning, hit all shots after that, and still died badly to the kingsnake. Its just insanely overpowered.
@tigeralbatros9432
2 жыл бұрын
TR got its royalty. NC got big boom. Angry Toasters (XD, love it) get a mini skylance And VS got the imo the most interesting, yet sadly weakest of all. I would really love to see the reload beeing decreased on this one.
@karaboga5984
2 жыл бұрын
Kingsnake looks pretty good. That is if it doesn't get nerfed before release.
@Aurasmae
2 жыл бұрын
As a VS main I am still looking forwards to our new guns. Better damage would be better definitely, but thinking of our top guns like the Saron - which from my limited use really is the best of the best AV topguns, the new main gun sounds very useful.
@georgestain2803
Жыл бұрын
me aswell, but at the end bigger raw numbers allways win. People get tired quickly of niche weapons. Still hoping that perhilion + saron will be interesting harass setup.
@taerkasten5090
Жыл бұрын
In paper sounds like the new cannon for the vanguard will be blasted (Nerfed) into oblivion because the damage can cause, where the heck the railgun than was promised for the new secondary for the vanguard, many tankers think than a new secondary also would be usefull, because the aphelion and the other gun than the terrans have for secondary are better than the popcorn (bombox), the popcorn in close is "Reasonable" because the enforcer is better in range and damage overall, the only way to be the popcorn effective is with maxed magazine for sustained shoots, the NC tank needs better guns because was good but now is a weak tank.
@sansgaster4877
Жыл бұрын
I hope they nerf the new TR cannon, because now if you turn on the prowler shield, then with the new cannon you will be able to destroy the vanguard, with the vanguard shield turned on,
@taerkasten5090
Жыл бұрын
@@sansgaster4877 thats what also ill thinl about that new barricade of the terran tank and that quad cannon would smack a vanguard with ease
@sansgaster4877
Жыл бұрын
@@taerkasten5090 Two Prowlers literally destroy lightning and a Vanu tank in 1 salvo, while NC tanks need to drive up to point-blank range and attack from behind, the new TR cannon allows you to destroy everything (including aerial vehicles) at extremely long distances
@YuriiTemnikov
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the developers didn't think about the faction's ranged weapons a bit from the start. In my subjective opinion: NC weapons - as they claim to use gauss technology - must fire at high power, high projectile velocity and low projectile drop, but - before each shot (except perhaps the first) there must be a pause to charge this very shot/capacitors. That is, a very low rate of fire. Because for gauss technology, the current projectile speed of 500-600 m / s is simply ridiculous. TR weapons - the rate of fire remains at the current level (because this is basically normal for a bullet weapon - it all depends only on the strength of the materials, which is quite realistic in the setting of the future) - but the speed of the projectiles also needs to be increased, because even now a simple Kalashnikov assault rifle fires a bullet at a speed of 900 m/s, while in the game the ceiling is 680 m/s and this is only for the directive sniper rifle! (the developers made some kind of ineffective bullet weapon for us, from the future you expect something like assault rifles with a speed of 1200-1500 m / s, well, 1000 m / s as a last resort, and sniper rifles should generally approach 1200-2000 m / s) There should also be a choice for the types of bullets - for some reason there are soft-shell, high-speed, explosive bullets (explosive bullets that reduce overall damage - that's a laugh), but for some reason there are no armor-piercing or increased power. VS weapons - since they are positioned in the lore on plasma technologies, their weapons must deal huge damage (plasma, this is still no joke), minimal or complete, as it is now, the absence of bullet drop, slow projectile flight speed and sharp damage drop at long distances (it seems like a plasma projectile should lose its power with every meter, since it spends its energy on burning the atmosphere). And accordingly, no weapons with cooling technology - plasma needs a working fluid (gas), or the power / rate of fire of such weapons should be reduced.
@ARWINGx1
2 жыл бұрын
With these, more and more do I feel inclined to prefer the NSO over VS.
@akaroth7542
Жыл бұрын
Jeezus, having to headshot a planet man twice with the no-splash NS cannon. Derp
@AA-dr3in
2 жыл бұрын
You know backing up and showing how these weapons work at range would give a better example. Imagine trying to even get that close with a vanguard while under fire from other mbts you will get melted.
@dalentces2492
2 жыл бұрын
"Imagine trying to even get that close with a Vanguard" Happens all the time in Tech Plants, Ti Alloys, Crossroads, on Hossin... Which server are you from?
@AA-dr3in
2 жыл бұрын
@@dalentces2492 so you mean situations where there are anywhere between 5-10 enemy mbts parked right outside the base farming any poor vehicle dares to spawn?
@lnawesome
2 жыл бұрын
Ill come back after a month when these are live, but here's my views. NSO: pretty great deal. No drop, good damage, good gimmick, good reload speed. TR: Perfect deal. Highest damage per trigger pull chad that does 2100 to 2800 damage a pop. Has great splash that is currently bugged that will do 1200 damage in indirect making it actually a very potent infantry killer. And with lock down they get shell velocity faster than the new Vanguard AP. Oh and the Lightning is even more insane since it has the damage of an AP Vanguard with a 2 second reload instead of 3.75 VS: Great deal. This thing can do range because of no drop and it has better DPS than both the AP and HEAT. And again the lightning version is insane since is literally an upgrade to HEAT with no drop at the trade off of no farming infantry in one shot. NC: Its got the lowest indirect damage of the vanguard cannons. Compared to the Kingsnake: its worse in every way. Slower reload. Same velocity as HESH, but drop that makes hitting targets past 150m more than a chore. It's the candy cannonized kingsnake; a meme. The lightning is even worse with slower velocity, cant even 1 shot infantry from a direct hit, and its again worse than the kingsnake lightning. The NC didn't get the short end of the stick because they didn't get a stick. They got a joke holiday weapon that you need a recursion overlay to be effective with or barrel stuffing in which case: you're doing damage to yourself! But that new HEAT and AP velocity. Finally, a range option!
@Destroyah64
2 жыл бұрын
the only thing i disagree with is the nc if you had two or 3 of them say at the high end of indar quarry on those lovely armor stalls that happen it would demolish armor stuck in choke points even not hitting every shot the fact it can splash and hit multiple tanks trying to fire around each other while yourself firing over the arch of a hill with its arc and staying out of enemy los while doing so mightve been what they were going for with it
@lnawesome
Жыл бұрын
Lookie lookie oh boy once again I'm right. The only parts of this that I get sick and tired of is: being right consecutively yet being dismissed as wrong up until the point where I'm showing I'm right, never having any surprises, and this slowly building an ego because I'm, again, being constantly told I'm wrong and then turn out to be right consecutively.
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